FBI is wrapping up e-mail investigation with no evidence Clinton willfully violated the law

[mudwhistle]

Conjecture ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

no, it's a fact .. documented !

and there won't be any progress until the Right starts demanding Bush and Cheney be thrown in jail EVERY DAMN DAY FOR THE NEXT 2 YEARS ..

ready set GO !

You do understand, they aren't the ones currently running for President of the united States?

sure I understand that .. you do understand there were no laws against Clinton having a private server until 21 months AFTER she left office don''t you?

But there were laws that she take classes on how to recognize and handle Classified information that she didn't attend. She was also told by the State Department that it wasn't a good idea to set up her own server...she did it anyway. She was told she couldn't have a secure phone, she used it for classified information anyway... she is a liar that doesn't follow proper protocol. She doesn't need to be President of the United States.

how many times do you need to hear it ... THERE WASN'T A LAW REGARDING HER SERVER UNTIL 21 MONTHS AFTER SHE WAS OUT OF OFFICE.

( some idiots will never understand that, are you one of those idiots? )

Problem with that is their already was a law.....the Espionage Act


How Hillary Clinton Could Be Targeted Under The Espionage Act

 

[mudwhistle]

Conjecture ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

no, it's a fact .. documented !

and there won't be any progress until the Right starts demanding Bush and Cheney be thrown in jail EVERY DAMN DAY FOR THE NEXT 2 YEARS ..

ready set GO !

You do understand, they aren't the ones currently running for President of the united States?

sure I understand that .. you do understand there were no laws against Clinton having a private server until 21 months AFTER she left office don''t you?

No laws against it for private use.

She used it for official business. Very different.

no law ... PERIOD.

The Espionage Act....

Read it Goober.


Anyone who is criminally negligent and allows classified information to fall into the hands of foreign nations can be prosecuted for Espionage.

 

[Siete]

no, it's a fact .. documented !

and there won't be any progress until the Right starts demanding Bush and Cheney be thrown in jail EVERY DAMN DAY FOR THE NEXT 2 YEARS ..

ready set GO !

You do understand, they aren't the ones currently running for President of the united States?

sure I understand that .. you do understand there were no laws against Clinton having a private server until 21 months AFTER she left office don''t you?

No laws against it for private use.

She used it for official business. Very different.

no law ... PERIOD.

The Espionage Act....

Read it Goober.


Anyone who is criminally negligent and allows classified information to fall into the hands of foreign nations can be prosecuted for Espionage.

nope, dope ... try again.

no classified intel.


deal with it.

and it's "there" not "their" you flaming idget

 

[Lewdog]

You do understand, they aren't the ones currently running for President of the united States?

sure I understand that .. you do understand there were no laws against Clinton having a private server until 21 months AFTER she left office don''t you?

No laws against it for private use.

She used it for official business. Very different.

no law ... PERIOD.

The Espionage Act....

Read it Goober.


Anyone who is criminally negligent and allows classified information to fall into the hands of foreign nations can be prosecuted for Espionage.

nope, dope ... try again.

no classified intel.


deal with it.

It doesn't say classified intel... it just says government business. Government business could be as simple as setting up a meeting or deciding who is bringing donuts on Friday.

 

[Redfish]

You do understand, they aren't the ones currently running for President of the united States?

sure I understand that .. you do understand there were no laws against Clinton having a private server until 21 months AFTER she left office don''t you?

No laws against it for private use.

She used it for official business. Very different.

no law ... PERIOD.

The Espionage Act....

Read it Goober.


Anyone who is criminally negligent and allows classified information to fall into the hands of foreign nations can be prosecuted for Espionage.

nope, dope ... try again.

no classified intel.


deal with it.

and it's "there" not "their" you flaming idget

BULLSHIT, THERE WERE AT LEAST 2000 CLASSIFIED E-MAILS ON HER SERVER.

DAMN FOOL, STOP LYING FOR JUST A FEW MINUTES.

 

[Siete]

sure I understand that .. you do understand there were no laws against Clinton having a private server until 21 months AFTER she left office don''t you?

No laws against it for private use.

She used it for official business. Very different.

no law ... PERIOD.

The Espionage Act....

Read it Goober.


Anyone who is criminally negligent and allows classified information to fall into the hands of foreign nations can be prosecuted for Espionage.

nope, dope ... try again.

no classified intel.


deal with it.

and it's "there" not "their" you flaming idget

BULLSHIT, THERE WERE AT LEAST 2000 CLASSIFIED E-MAILS ON HER SERVER.

DAMN FOOL, STOP LYING FOR JUST A FEW MINUTES.

and no laws until 2014 ... no lie, look it up. HR 1233

 

[Redfish]

No laws against it for private use.

She used it for official business. Very different.

no law ... PERIOD.

The Espionage Act....

Read it Goober.


Anyone who is criminally negligent and allows classified information to fall into the hands of foreign nations can be prosecuted for Espionage.

nope, dope ... try again.

no classified intel.


deal with it.

and it's "there" not "their" you flaming idget

BULLSHIT, THERE WERE AT LEAST 2000 CLASSIFIED E-MAILS ON HER SERVER.

DAMN FOOL, STOP LYING FOR JUST A FEW MINUTES.

and no laws until 2014 ... no lie, look it up. HR 1233

more horseshit spin. The laws on handling classified data have been on the books for many many years. Hillary violated them thousands of times. She is as guilty as Charles Manson and should serve as many years as crazy Charlie.

 

[Siete]

no law ... PERIOD.

The Espionage Act....

Read it Goober.


Anyone who is criminally negligent and allows classified information to fall into the hands of foreign nations can be prosecuted for Espionage.

nope, dope ... try again.

no classified intel.


deal with it.

and it's "there" not "their" you flaming idget

BULLSHIT, THERE WERE AT LEAST 2000 CLASSIFIED E-MAILS ON HER SERVER.

DAMN FOOL, STOP LYING FOR JUST A FEW MINUTES.

and no laws until 2014 ... no lie, look it up. HR 1233

more horseshit spin. The laws on handling classified data have been on the books for many many years. Hillary violated them thousands of times. She is as guilty as Charles Manson and should serve as many years as crazy Charlie.

HR 1233 ... look it up

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

What she is going to crush is your wallet. Our handouts to the Muslims has nearly done us in. Hillary will distribute our wealth to Asia. It's America or the globe. Hillary is for the globe. Trump is for America. Choose wisely.

"Our handouts to the Muslims...."? Just humor me here.

 

[bendog]

CNN Reports FBI Has Found ‘No Criminal Wrongdoing’ in Hillary Clinton Email ‘Investigation’

Some of Hillary Clinton’s closest aides, including her longtime adviser Huma Abedin, have provided interviews to federal investigators, as the FBI probe into the security of her private email server nears completion, U.S. officials briefed on the investigation tell CNN. The investigation is still ongoing, but so far investigators haven’t found evidence to prove that Clinton willfully violated the law the U.S. officials say.

One the e-mail investigation is over, is will be over for Donald. She will CRUSH HIM IN NOVEMBER! And you Donald supporter will deny you ever supported him. FUNNY!

Trey Gowdy is still chopping wood!

 

[EriktheRed]

FBI is wrapping up e-mail investigation with no evidence Clinton willfully violated the law

Sad Trombone

 

[Fair&Balanced]

You do understand, they aren't the ones currently running for President of the united States?

sure I understand that .. you do understand there were no laws against Clinton having a private server until 21 months AFTER she left office don''t you?

No laws against it for private use.

She used it for official business. Very different.

no law ... PERIOD.

The Espionage Act....

Read it Goober.


Anyone who is criminally negligent and allows classified information to fall into the hands of foreign nations can be prosecuted for Espionage.

nope, dope ... try again.

no classified intel.


deal with it.

and it's "there" not "their" you flaming idget

I'm not going to insult you for not understanding the Espionage Act, but you could at least say "hmm maybe I should listen to those who do"

When you receive a security clearance, you are obligated to different standards. A paper doesn't have to be actively marked "hey top secret, classified" for you to be to be required to treat it as such. You are in fact required to use good judgement about what is classified information and not disseminate such that might be. Even accidental dissemination is a crime.


Let me give you an example.

Suppose I work for a certain agency and I'm tasked with meeting with a person who works for a certain foreign agency to acquire some intel. Not let's say I get that intel. That intel isn't technically classified until someone with the proper authority says "this intel is classified" BUT it is still my duty to think to myself "self, this information could be vital to national security and thus I should treat it as such and not use nonsecure communications" and if I don't , I could be charged with the crime of espionage.

This is all theoretical and assumes I work for said agency , which I can neither confirm nor deny.

 

[Rambunctious]

Trump is tied with Hillary in two swing states and beating her in a third....Once the e-mail scandal was made public that is all it took to taint a corrupted Hillary. The FBI is corrupt just like the IRS and the EPA and the FCC and the FEC and the DNC. But it will not matter she is crooked and the American people know it and do not want her in the White House.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

Trump is tied with Hillary in two swing states and beating her in a third....Once the e-mail scandal was made public that is all it took to taint a corrupted Hillary. The FBI is corrupt just like the IRS and the EPA and the FCC and the FEC and the DNC. But it will not matter she is crooked and the American people know it and do not want her in the White House.

I do not believe the FBI is corrupt. I believe that if there is evidence that Hillary committed a crime, they will recommend indictment.

That's not to say that Loretta Lynch , who IS corrupt, will allow such, but I don't believe the FBI will sweep anything under the rug.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Benghazi ........................................

Nice attempt to deflect, but you'll in fact not find any posts from me about such.

Now, answer my question. Do you understand that it is irrelevant whether she willfully broke the law or not? That's a simple yes or no question.

PROVE IT....

every single lawyer that has defended those charged with top secret violations that have spoken up on this case have STATED that it has to be knowingly and willfully committed or severely gross negligence, in order for the gvt to prosecute.

Bullshit, I held top secret and SAP clearances for years, a violation does not have to be knowing or willing or grossly negligent. If I did what she did, I would be typing this from a jail cell.

your head is so far up Hillary's fat butt that you cant see reality.

yeah, sure, whatever....

Have you ever received a briefing on the proper way to handle classified information? Don't bother , it's obvious you haven't.

Let's say you work for the State Department and you have classiied material in your briefcase, and you stop off for a drink on your way home from work. Let's say you accidently leave the bar without your briefcase.

Let's now say the next day you realize such and report it to your superiors. Guess what happens? You violated the law and will lose your security clearance, your job, and possibly your freedom.


speaking of that, here is another interesting question. What if the FBI stripped Hillary of her security clearance? Could a person who isn't eligible for a security clearance become President?

What emails are you referring to and when were they classified?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Benghazi ........................................

Nice attempt to deflect, but you'll in fact not find any posts from me about such.

Now, answer my question. Do you understand that it is irrelevant whether she willfully broke the law or not? That's a simple yes or no question.

PROVE IT....

every single lawyer that has defended those charged with top secret violations that have spoken up on this case have STATED that it has to be knowingly and willfully committed or severely gross negligence, in order for the gvt to prosecute.

Bullshit, I held top secret and SAP clearances for years, a violation does not have to be knowing or willing or grossly negligent. If I did what she did, I would be typing this from a jail cell.

your head is so far up Hillary's fat butt that you cant see reality.

Says you, citing you. And you're a notoriously shit source on the law. The glorious lack of other prosecutions for other SOS's who did the same thing demonstrates that you don't know what you're talking about.

Gen Patreaus was convicted of much less than what Hillary has done. Snowden did less damage to national security than Hillary.

I get it that she is your hope for the future, but she is a criminal, deal with it.

Bullshit! Patreus was the director of the CIA
who knowingly gave classified material to his biographer and lover. How you can even try and compare that to Clinton is beyond me.

 

[Rambunctious]

I do not believe the FBI is corrupt. I believe that if there is evidence that Hillary committed a crime, they will recommend indictment.

That's not to say that Loretta Lynch , who IS corrupt, will allow such, but I don't believe the FBI will sweep anything under the rug.

We all know she destroyed evidence...you try that and see what the FBI does to you then tell me the FBI is not corrupt. Until she is recommended for indictment by Comey as far as I'm concerned the FBI is no different than the IRS corrupted as hell.

 

[Skylar]

Nice attempt to deflect, but you'll in fact not find any posts from me about such.

Now, answer my question. Do you understand that it is irrelevant whether she willfully broke the law or not? That's a simple yes or no question.

PROVE IT....

every single lawyer that has defended those charged with top secret violations that have spoken up on this case have STATED that it has to be knowingly and willfully committed or severely gross negligence, in order for the gvt to prosecute.

Bullshit, I held top secret and SAP clearances for years, a violation does not have to be knowing or willing or grossly negligent. If I did what she did, I would be typing this from a jail cell.

your head is so far up Hillary's fat butt that you cant see reality.

Says you, citing you. And you're a notoriously shit source on the law. The glorious lack of other prosecutions for other SOS's who did the same thing demonstrates that you don't know what you're talking about.

Gen Patreaus was convicted of much less than what Hillary has done. Snowden did less damage to national security than Hillary.

I get it that she is your hope for the future, but she is a criminal, deal with it.

Bullshit! Patreus was the director of the CIA
who knowingly gave classified material to his biographer and lover. How you can even try and compare that to Clinton is beyond me.

Laughing......Clinton sending emails to her aides as part of her job is the same thing as Patreus walking out 8 binders of classified documents to show his mistress?

And mr. 'Notoriously shit source at the law' demonstrates again why his arguments are fecally based.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

You insist you know better than the legal experts that contradict you.

We'll see what your opinions are worth, won't we?

I just quoted the actual fucking law to you. Read it you fucking idiot, it's quite clear.

And as mos of the legal experts asked on the topic agree, its a stretch to apply it to a SOS's communication with her own aides, rather than an enemy nation.

You insist you know better.

We'll see what your opinion is worth. Just remember.....I told you so.

You won't quote one single legal expert who says that having classified information on an unclassified email server is not a violation of the law dude. Not one.

It is a matter of record that the law was violated here. That isn't even at question. The question is, Was Hillary at fault, PERIOD. That's the part you don't seem to understand , all the "legal experts" who are defending her, they aren't arguing that the law wasn't violated, because it was, they are arguing that Hillary was not responsible for the material being on the unclassified server.

Seriously, if you're too stupid to understand the actual topic , why are you even posting, go post in the tv forum or something.

hey dude,

you are the one that posted the link to this supposed law that was broken...but FAILED at reading comprehension of the very first sentence of the law.... where was the intent to deliver this top secret info to the enemy kiddo?

that's your problem, not mine or Hillary's.

18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information


Show me where in that law intent is required.

Wow!

"with intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States,"

 

[Fair&Balanced]

Nice attempt to deflect, but you'll in fact not find any posts from me about such.

Now, answer my question. Do you understand that it is irrelevant whether she willfully broke the law or not? That's a simple yes or no question.

PROVE IT....

every single lawyer that has defended those charged with top secret violations that have spoken up on this case have STATED that it has to be knowingly and willfully committed or severely gross negligence, in order for the gvt to prosecute.

Bullshit, I held top secret and SAP clearances for years, a violation does not have to be knowing or willing or grossly negligent. If I did what she did, I would be typing this from a jail cell.

your head is so far up Hillary's fat butt that you cant see reality.

yeah, sure, whatever....

Have you ever received a briefing on the proper way to handle classified information? Don't bother , it's obvious you haven't.

Let's say you work for the State Department and you have classiied material in your briefcase, and you stop off for a drink on your way home from work. Let's say you accidently leave the bar without your briefcase.

Let's now say the next day you realize such and report it to your superiors. Guess what happens? You violated the law and will lose your security clearance, your job, and possibly your freedom.


speaking of that, here is another interesting question. What if the FBI stripped Hillary of her security clearance? Could a person who isn't eligible for a security clearance become President?

What emails are you referring to and when were they classified?

When they were classified is irrelevant to the law. Why do yall REFUSE to understand that? Hillary was bound to use her own good judgement and not disseminate information that should be classified regardless of whether it was classified or not. Her excuse of "it was later classified" doesn't hold water because that's not the way the law works, as she was well aware. They give lectures on this stuff when you are given you security clearances.