Federal Employee Union Sues Government Over Shutdown, Alleging Wage Violations

[initforme]

Whenever someone cries about overpaid employees they are either uber rich or some other unidentifiable condition. They surely dontdobuy into the dont be envious thought. They will never criticize an overpaid lazy executive in a company.

 

[bodecea]

No. That's just his ability for now. His job is to do what's best for the country. Building a stupid wall is not what's best for the country

81% of Americans want border security, we differ on how that is accomplished.

59% say spending money on a stupid wall that will not work is not the best way to improve border security.

Where are those 59%? Why aren't they donating to the GFM account to help pay for the Wall?

Squawk....squawk...the sky is falling.....you're not going to get your Social Security check....squawk.....squawk....the sky is falling. Idiot.

No one should. The government is shut down....those who process checks should go home and not report to work if they are not being paid.

 

[rightwinger]

There is rarely anyone who says one thing positive about average working americsns on this forum. Why the disdain? American workers complain the least, work the hardest and sacrifice the most for their employers yet nobody here recognizes this fact. Good workers are easy to find. Perhaps this is the problem.

They are called losers

Only the rich are worthy of admiration

 

[BS Filter]

They're on a paid vacation. They're not working and they will receive back pay when this is all over. As for my cushy job, yes I do quite well on my Social Security that I paid for and my part-time job that I work at. I'm very comfortable, not that it's any of your damn business and isn't part of this discussion, you little snotty punk.

You think you're getting your SS check?

Of course I'm getting my Social Security check. Why wouldn't I and everyone on Social Security get their checks? Dum Dum.

So you are dependent on government workers....workers that currently are not being paid to send you your check.

Man, you're really thick. I'm NOT dependent. I got my check. Idiot.

And no one should...the government workers processing checks should go home until paid. Right? You don't need them, right?

Yep, don't need them. It's all automated. Moron.

 

[bodecea]

Trump just wants to keep the Trumpkins wound up about the Mexican Menace.

Actually, the trumpanzees on this thread want to forget Mexico....they seem upset I keep reminding them that their orange god told them on multiple occasions that Mexico would be the ones paying for their Wall.

 

[NightFox]

The union said employees can’t be forced to work without pay.

Yep, that's right, so do the prudent thing and quit, let's see how you fare in the private sector where results matter and excuses don't.

#NoSympathyForGovernmentDrones

would you work without pay fox?....just asking...

No but then again I'm not a mindless government drone that is overpaid even when working without pay.

And this is why they should all go home and not report to work until they are being paid.

You're two thirds right.

They should all go home and not report to work.

 

[Harry Dresden]

The union said employees can’t be forced to work without pay.

A union representing federal workers sued the government Monday over the partial shutdown, saying it was illegal to have hundreds of thousands of employees work without pay during the funding lapse.

The American Federation of Government Employees filed the lawsuit on the shutdown’s 10th day, with no signs of an imminent resolution between Congress and the White House. The union said withholding the pay of workers who continue to clock in during the shutdown runs afoul of the Fair Labor Standards Act, the Great Depression-era law establishing a minimum wage and overtime pay.

“This is not an acceptable way for any employer, let alone the U.S. government, to treat its employees,” Heidi Burakiewicz, a lawyer representing the workers, said in a statement. “These employees still need to pay childcare expenses, buy gas, and incur other expenses to go to work every day and yet, they are not getting paid. It is a blatant violation.”

Some 380,000 federal employees have been furloughed during the shutdown, meaning they are out of a job until lawmakers reach a funding agreement. But another 420,000 are continuing to work in “essential” capacities such as in law enforcement, but are not being paid.

After previous shutdowns, Congress has passed legislation to retroactively pay furloughed employees and those who worked through the closures. But in the meantime, all those workers have bills to pay. Those who don’t have deep enough savings will face some hard choices if the shutdown continues to grind on.

AFGE previously sued the government under the same claims after the 2013 shutdown, which lasted 16 days. A judge later ruled that around 25,000 workers were owed double pay due to damages.

More: Federal Employee Union Sues Government Over Shutdown, Alleging Wage Violations

Sounds reasonable to me. What do you think?

Controlling who and what enters a community is the most basic function of good governance.


Only an enemy of the community could be against that.

Lefties are children. The Democrat party is daddy and big government is the mommy.

The right wing alleges to be for free markets and less government; but Government solves all problems for the right wing.

hey danny,you figure out were Ellis island is yet?....

 

[BS Filter]

No. That's just his ability for now. His job is to do what's best for the country. Building a stupid wall is not what's best for the country

81% of Americans want border security, we differ on how that is accomplished.

59% say spending money on a stupid wall that will not work is not the best way to improve border security.

Where are those 59%? Why aren't they donating to the GFM account to help pay for the Wall?

Squawk....squawk...the sky is falling.....you're not going to get your Social Security check....squawk.....squawk....the sky is falling. Idiot.

No one should. The government is shut down....those who process checks should go home and not report to work if they are not being paid.

Poor sad little tyke. The technology makes sure government works without your drones.

 

[Correll]

The union said employees can’t be forced to work without pay.

A union representing federal workers sued the government Monday over the partial shutdown, saying it was illegal to have hundreds of thousands of employees work without pay during the funding lapse.

The American Federation of Government Employees filed the lawsuit on the shutdown’s 10th day, with no signs of an imminent resolution between Congress and the White House. The union said withholding the pay of workers who continue to clock in during the shutdown runs afoul of the Fair Labor Standards Act, the Great Depression-era law establishing a minimum wage and overtime pay.

“This is not an acceptable way for any employer, let alone the U.S. government, to treat its employees,” Heidi Burakiewicz, a lawyer representing the workers, said in a statement. “These employees still need to pay childcare expenses, buy gas, and incur other expenses to go to work every day and yet, they are not getting paid. It is a blatant violation.”

Some 380,000 federal employees have been furloughed during the shutdown, meaning they are out of a job until lawmakers reach a funding agreement. But another 420,000 are continuing to work in “essential” capacities such as in law enforcement, but are not being paid.

After previous shutdowns, Congress has passed legislation to retroactively pay furloughed employees and those who worked through the closures. But in the meantime, all those workers have bills to pay. Those who don’t have deep enough savings will face some hard choices if the shutdown continues to grind on.

AFGE previously sued the government under the same claims after the 2013 shutdown, which lasted 16 days. A judge later ruled that around 25,000 workers were owed double pay due to damages.

More: Federal Employee Union Sues Government Over Shutdown, Alleging Wage Violations

Sounds reasonable to me. What do you think?

Controlling who and what enters a community is the most basic function of good governance.


Only an enemy of the community could be against that.

there is no express wall building clause.

Don't care. Your loyalty lies with the invaders, and not your fellow citizens.

danielpalous is a racist Mexican who had sided with a Mexican child rapist over his American victim.


Unless you are a monster, you should support my attack on him.


If you do not, that is on you.

 

[bodecea]

No. That's just his ability for now. His job is to do what's best for the country. Building a stupid wall is not what's best for the country

81% of Americans want border security, we differ on how that is accomplished.

59% say spending money on a stupid wall that will not work is not the best way to improve border security.

Where are those 59%? Why aren't they donating to the GFM account to help pay for the Wall?

What a stupid question. Why would anyone donate to a wall they think is a dumb idea?

But they swear it's an excellent idea....why aren't more trumpanzees donating? They haven't even gotten a million trumpanzees to donate yet.

 

[Dana7360]

I don't think that's correct, got a cite?

1. Will excepted employees be paid for performing work during a shutdown furlough? If so, when will excepted employees receive such payments?

A. Agencies will incur obligations to pay for services performed by excepted employees during a lapse in appropriations, and those employees will be paid after Congress passes and the President signs a new appropriation or continuing resolution.


https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-ove...-guidance/guidance-for-shutdown-furloughs.pdf

Yes we are paid after the funding is passed.

However the people that don’t work usually get paid too and basically get a free vacation without taking leave.

Which is one of the reasons a shutdown is so fucking stupid. It just waste more money...

All Dems have to do is throw the GOP $5B and it’s over, but Dems aren’t very smart.

Why would they, when Mexico's paying the $5B?

Seems to me all trump has to do is realize that a large majority of this nation doesn't want that wall.

The democrats are doing what the majority of the people in this nation want.

 

[Correll]

No. That's just his ability for now. His job is to do what's best for the country. Building a stupid wall is not what's best for the country

81% of Americans want border security, we differ on how that is accomplished.

59% say spending money on a stupid wall that will not work is not the best way to improve border security.

Where are those 59%? Why aren't they donating to the GFM account to help pay for the Wall?

What a stupid question. Why would anyone donate to a wall they think is a dumb idea?

But they swear it's an excellent idea....why aren't more trumpanzees donating? They haven't even gotten a million trumpanzees to donate yet.

You ever call a Trump support that to his face, tough guy?

 

[Harry Dresden]

I don't really care about these federal workers. They are parasites off those of us who work in the private sector and don't have all the protections they do.

Yes, clearly a govt of, by, for the people is parasitic, while a govt of, by, for concentrated corporate state wealth and power is fweedumb.

----------------------------- Americans don't care about these 'fed' people . Let them sue , let them cry , maybe the TRUMP can feck them up Lowrie .

They all vote...their adult family members vote. tiny trump said they were all Democrats. Well, they are now.

i doubt that....

 

[bodecea]

Nope...tiny trump said over and over and over again that Mexico will pay for the Wall. When do you think they'll hand over the check for that?

That's your obsession, not ours. You've been trained like a monkey to keep bringing that up as if anybody really cared. That's why you've done it a half-dozen times in two pages. Don't feel bad, your fellow comrades are doing the same. But as for us:

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Interesting how you want to deny your own orange master's words....don't you feel like Peter denying Jesus 3 times?

Pitiful. You even pulled out the old Democrat scare tactic about not getting our Social Security checks. What a pitiful creature.

So...you rant against government workers...the very workers who are working non-pay to process and send you your Social Security check. They should go home and not work til paid.

Lie. Now you're making shit up. You really are a pathetic pitiful kunt.

Ah....never did understand why trumpanzees get labelled as misogynists.....it's a puzzlement. Just like it's a puzzle that you want our government workers gone......as long as you get your SS check.... Your nic certainly fits you like a glove.

 

[NightFox]

1. Will excepted employees be paid for performing work during a shutdown furlough? If so, when will excepted employees receive such payments?

A. Agencies will incur obligations to pay for services performed by excepted employees during a lapse in appropriations, and those employees will be paid after Congress passes and the President signs a new appropriation or continuing resolution.


https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-ove...-guidance/guidance-for-shutdown-furloughs.pdf

Yes we are paid after the funding is passed.

However the people that don’t work usually get paid too and basically get a free vacation without taking leave.

Which is one of the reasons a shutdown is so fucking stupid. It just waste more money...

All Dems have to do is throw the GOP $5B and it’s over, but Dems aren’t very smart.

Why would they, when Mexico's paying the $5B?

Seems to me all trump has to do is realize that a large majority of this nation doesn't want that wall.

The democrats are doing what the majority of the people in this nation want.

He already knows.... he's just milking the political mileage with his base for all it's worth before he capitulates on the issue and moves on, only for it to be brought out again when it comes campaigning time.

After all it worked for him as an issue the first time.

 

[BULLDOG]

No. That's just his ability for now. His job is to do what's best for the country. Building a stupid wall is not what's best for the country

81% of Americans want border security, we differ on how that is accomplished.

59% say spending money on a stupid wall that will not work is not the best way to improve border security.

Where are those 59%? Why aren't they donating to the GFM account to help pay for the Wall?

What a stupid question. Why would anyone donate to a wall they think is a dumb idea?

But they swear it's an excellent idea....why aren't more trumpanzees donating? They haven't even gotten a million trumpanzees to donate yet.

I love to see right wingers throw their money away. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump had some scam to pocket the money for himself.

 

[BS Filter]

That's your obsession, not ours. You've been trained like a monkey to keep bringing that up as if anybody really cared. That's why you've done it a half-dozen times in two pages. Don't feel bad, your fellow comrades are doing the same. But as for us:

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Interesting how you want to deny your own orange master's words....don't you feel like Peter denying Jesus 3 times?

Pitiful. You even pulled out the old Democrat scare tactic about not getting our Social Security checks. What a pitiful creature.

So...you rant against government workers...the very workers who are working non-pay to process and send you your Social Security check. They should go home and not work til paid.

Lie. Now you're making shit up. You really are a pathetic pitiful kunt.

Ah....never did understand why trumpanzees get labelled as misogynists.....it's a puzzlement. Just like it's a puzzle that you want our government workers gone......as long as you get your SS check....

I'm sure you don't understand a lot of things. You obviously are befuddled that myself and many others aren't giving in to your guilt trip and coercion. We understand the Democrat game of using government drones for political purposes. You can't scare us anymore by threatening to withhold our Social Security, etc. Go peddle your propaganda to some naive college kids.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Are you really this stupid or do you just pretend on the internet. The lawsuit is about those that are still going work and not being properly compensated for their work as was agreed upon in their employment contract.

Which is why we should get rid of unions in the government.

Because they are arguing that people should get paid for their work....how dare them.

I am anti-union as they come, but that is just stupid.

So who's not getting paid? They will all get paid; perhaps not timely, but will get paid.

I'm sure their debtors such as their landlords or mortgage companies have no problem with that.

If you are living check to check and have no backup money, then maybe you're too irresponsible to be working for the public. When you take a government job, you know things like this are bound to happen from time to time.

ray those working for the government are no different than those working private,they are people who took a job that was offered to feed their family and pay the bills....

 

[joaquinmiller]

Trump just wants to keep the Trumpkins wound up about the Mexican Menace.

Actually, the trumpanzees on this thread want to forget Mexico....they seem upset I keep reminding them that their orange god told them on multiple occasions that Mexico would be the ones paying for their Wall.

Dang! Trump shut down the gubmint because Mexico won't pay for the wall. Don't they know that?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Government is no place for unions.

why?.....do they have wonderful bosses who treat everyone nice?....no workers get fucked over by those wonderful bosses?....hey just asking...

Government is our servant and serve the people. You ever go to a Social Security office? Rude nasty arrogant jackals.

not what i was talking about....do government workers have great bosses who are always fair?.....does the government stand behind workers who are being treated like shit?....does the government make sure working conditions are up to standard?...thats what i am asking...