Federal Rules and Regulations cost average household $15,000 a year.

[Care4all]

Obviously y

It's a one sided view, NOT a true analysis....

you have what businesses think regulations "cost" them, but there is no comparison analysis of what it would cost all of us without any of the regulations....

As Example: What if there were no EPA, and businesses poluted like crazy....how many lives would be lost? How much would it cost us in Medicaid and Medicare expense for all those additional people with cancers or breathing problems, how much would our drinking water cost due to the shortages of additional clean water that the rules and regs gave us?

or if were a true free market with no regs, where monopolies could be the norm and what this would cost us in the price of goods with the lack of competition...

etc etc etc etc....

So basically, I call BULL CRAP on the op.

Obviously you can't make a decision without the government telling you it is OK!
Case in point. Do you think any business will continue to sell a product if the consumer KNOWS there is a problem ! Are you saying you are so dependent you
can't make a decision to buy without the stamp of approval by the FDA/OSHA/etc......?

you are one naive individual...

What would it cost the average family without all of these regulations?

We need to know this, so we can compare and make a sound judgement on whether the supposed $15k is actually more harmful to our pockets, or not....

your op article fails to address this....thus, it is a useless article.

So common sense is absent in your world right?
Why not a cop on every street corner? You do realize everyday every American including you break at least ONE rule or regulation or law !
You probably drive over the speed limit. You broke the law.
Did you spit on the ground? You broke the law.
Common sense and education can reduce the laws,regulations.
Ultimately people like you depend on rules and regulations to tell you what common sense should tell you but you haven't one iota of common sense!
YOU are like these people that seem to ignore the laws of physics and ultimate end up in the emergency room!
And then idiots like you doing stupid things like this wonder why health care costs skyrocket!
Want a rule or regulation for this??? Again common sense in idiots like you and the below exhibit Darwin's law of selection!
View attachment 59844

sigh....

 

[Skull Pilot]

Lol,

You must like pollution, shitty food and crappy water. I find it well worth it to live in a first world you piece of shit.

Yeah ALL the regulations are just for that

I suppose the fact that Americans on average commit 3 felonies a day is OK with you because we are taking a bite out of crime

 

[Care4all]

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What would it cost the average family without all of these regulations?

That's not the objective of the study, the conclusion that is drawn from it is that the regulatory process requires review and reform without such there is no way to quantify the cost-benefit and unintended consequences of any given regulation.

We need to know this, so we can compare and make a sound judgement on whether the supposed $15k is actually more harmful to our pockets, or not....

How are you going to determine this without a detailed review of every regulation in the FCR and how are going to maintain it for future regulations under the current system of "write it, book it and then forget about it until it becomes a political issue"?

your op article fails to address this....thus, it is a useless article.

It's only "useless" if your objective is to defend every square millimeter of the regulatory regime without regard to the specifics and overall efficiency of it.

This is something I noticed about hyper-partisans; when their party is in power the federal government can do no wrong, when their party is out of power the federal government can do no right, it's a ludicrous state of mind that frankly disqualifies those that are infected by it as members of any intelligent species (and no I'm not saying that you are one of those that is infected).

I'm certain there are several wasteful regulations that cost us....

What I object to is this arbitrary amount of regulations costing the average family $15k a year....and the op making it out as if the entirety of this $15 k is a burden none of us should bear....and have no monetary benefit as well...

 

[g5000]

I suppose the fact that Americans on average commit 3 felonies a day is OK with you

Link?

 

[Skull Pilot]

12 Ridiculous Government Regulations That Are Almost Too Bizarre To Believe

Dumb Laws, Stupid Laws: We have weird laws, strange laws, and just plain crazy laws!

 

[jillian]

Everyone keeps describing the declining income of Americans.

Here is one major reason!


According to the Competitive Enterprise Institute, covering the cost of federal regulations costs American families close to $15,000 of their average income.
“Can you imagine what your family could do with an additional $14,974 for groceries, gasoline, and savings? Congress owes it to the American people to carefully scrutinize the regulatory process to ensure regulations work for the people,” Lankford’s report notes. “We can balance responsible regulations with cost-effective solutions that work for families.”
While in the past year Obama signed 224 bills into law, he also published 3,554 final rules. “This means that for every law passed by Congress, the federal government created 16 new rules,” according to the report.

These 3,554 regulations impose significant costs on the American economy. The National Association of Manufacturers calculated the total cost of federal regulations in 2012 to be a staggering $2.028 trillion (11 percent of the U.S. gross domestic product). If our $2 trillion federal regulatory cost were a country, it would be the ninth-largest in the world.
Obama's 3,554 Rules and Regulations Cost Households $15,000 - Breitbart​

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fallacious nonsense from a source that doesn't believe in fact-checking.

thanks anyway.

 

[Skylar]

Everyone keeps describing the declining income of Americans.

Here is one major reason!


According to the Competitive Enterprise Institute, covering the cost of federal regulations costs American families close to $15,000 of their average income.
“Can you imagine what your family could do with an additional $14,974 for groceries, gasoline, and savings? Congress owes it to the American people to carefully scrutinize the regulatory process to ensure regulations work for the people,” Lankford’s report notes. “We can balance responsible regulations with cost-effective solutions that work for families.”
While in the past year Obama signed 224 bills into law, he also published 3,554 final rules. “This means that for every law passed by Congress, the federal government created 16 new rules,” according to the report.

These 3,554 regulations impose significant costs on the American economy. The National Association of Manufacturers calculated the total cost of federal regulations in 2012 to be a staggering $2.028 trillion (11 percent of the U.S. gross domestic product). If our $2 trillion federal regulatory cost were a country, it would be the ninth-largest in the world.
Obama's 3,554 Rules and Regulations Cost Households $15,000 - Breitbart​

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Which federal regulations? For example, I'm down with regulations that require clean water and clean air.

 

[Timmy]

Auto deaths keep dropping even though there are more cars than ever . Why? Cause of safety regs.

True an airbag adds to the cost of the car, they also save thousands of lives every week .

No all regs are bad .

Nobody is claiming that all regulations are "bad" Timmy, just that the current system of how they're created, implemented and managed is asinine.

The op implies all regs are bad .

And how are they created? Usually as a RESPONCE to bad behavior or some dangerous situation .

I go back to my air bag example . Do you think regs requiring new cars to have airbags is a bad thing ?

 

[g5000]

So common sense is absent in your world right?

Irony.

It just never occurred to you that some of that regulation expense is very well spent, and saves lives and money. You suffer from a total lack of common sense.

Now break it down. Stop evading. Tell us how much of that $15,000 is ill spent. You gave us an exact figure for the total cost, now give us an exact figure for the ill spent cost.

Good luck with that, rube. You won't find it because you also lack the common sense to detect when you are being manipulated by your propaganda outlets. They had you bleeving the whole cost was ill spent. It never crossed your mind that couldn't possibly be true. You have ZERO critical thinking ability.

 

[NightFox]

What I object to is this arbitrary amount of regulations costing the average family $15k a year....and the op making it out as if the entirety of this $15 k is a burden none of us should bear....and have no monetary benefit as well...

I agree the Senator's hyperbole is misleading but the fact remains his assertions are worthwhile and from looking at the data the $15K isn't "arbitrary" it's just an aggregate that needs to be taken in context.

 

[Skull Pilot]

I suppose the fact that Americans on average commit 3 felonies a day is OK with you

Link?

You Commit Three Felonies a Day

 

[NYcarbineer]

Obviously y

It's a one sided view, NOT a true analysis....

you have what businesses think regulations "cost" them, but there is no comparison analysis of what it would cost all of us without any of the regulations....

As Example: What if there were no EPA, and businesses poluted like crazy....how many lives would be lost? How much would it cost us in Medicaid and Medicare expense for all those additional people with cancers or breathing problems, how much would our drinking water cost due to the shortages of additional clean water that the rules and regs gave us?

or if were a true free market with no regs, where monopolies could be the norm and what this would cost us in the price of goods with the lack of competition...

etc etc etc etc....

So basically, I call BULL CRAP on the op.

Obviously you can't make a decision without the government telling you it is OK!
Case in point. Do you think any business will continue to sell a product if the consumer KNOWS there is a problem ! Are you saying you are so dependent you
can't make a decision to buy without the stamp of approval by the FDA/OSHA/etc......?

There was a guy a month or so ago going around our neighborhood selling uninspected meat out of the back of his van.
I sent him your way.

 

[healthmyths]

Everyone keeps describing the declining income of Americans.

Here is one major reason!


According to the Competitive Enterprise Institute, covering the cost of federal regulations costs American families close to $15,000 of their average income.
“Can you imagine what your family could do with an additional $14,974 for groceries, gasoline, and savings? Congress owes it to the American people to carefully scrutinize the regulatory process to ensure regulations work for the people,” Lankford’s report notes. “We can balance responsible regulations with cost-effective solutions that work for families.”
While in the past year Obama signed 224 bills into law, he also published 3,554 final rules. “This means that for every law passed by Congress, the federal government created 16 new rules,” according to the report.

These 3,554 regulations impose significant costs on the American economy. The National Association of Manufacturers calculated the total cost of federal regulations in 2012 to be a staggering $2.028 trillion (11 percent of the U.S. gross domestic product). If our $2 trillion federal regulatory cost were a country, it would be the ninth-largest in the world.
Obama's 3,554 Rules and Regulations Cost Households $15,000 - Breitbart​

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Which federal regulations? For example, I'm down with regulations that require clean water and clean air.

How about this EPA regulation...
Stormwater runoff is generated from rain and snowmelt events that flow over land or impervious surfaces, such as paved streets, parking lots, and building rooftops, and does not soak into the ground. The runoff picks up pollutants like trash, chemicals, oils, and dirt/sediment that can harm our rivers, streams, lakes, and coastal waters. To protect these resources, communities, construction companies, industries, and others, use stormwater controls, known as best management practices (BMPs). These BMPs filter out pollutants and/or prevent pollution by controlling it at its source.
NPDES Stormwater Program | National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System (NPDES) | US EPA


Shahram Kharaghani, watershed protection division manager for Los Angeles, estimated it will cost $5 billion to $8 billion to meet the storm water standards for the city over the next two decades.
New storm water runoff rules could cost cities billions
This is just ONE metropolitan area.
At a cost of approximately $30/person in the top 6 Metropolitan areas with 61 million people that works out to over $36 billion for 20 years.
List of Metropolitan Statistical Areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Who pays it? The cities. Who pays the cities? Property tax owners. NOW do you understand!

 

[NYcarbineer]

I suppose the fact that Americans on average commit 3 felonies a day is OK with you

Link?

You Commit Three Felonies a Day

I don't see the felonies I commit every day in that article.

 

[Skylar]

Everyone keeps describing the declining income of Americans.

Here is one major reason!


According to the Competitive Enterprise Institute, covering the cost of federal regulations costs American families close to $15,000 of their average income.
“Can you imagine what your family could do with an additional $14,974 for groceries, gasoline, and savings? Congress owes it to the American people to carefully scrutinize the regulatory process to ensure regulations work for the people,” Lankford’s report notes. “We can balance responsible regulations with cost-effective solutions that work for families.”
While in the past year Obama signed 224 bills into law, he also published 3,554 final rules. “This means that for every law passed by Congress, the federal government created 16 new rules,” according to the report.

These 3,554 regulations impose significant costs on the American economy. The National Association of Manufacturers calculated the total cost of federal regulations in 2012 to be a staggering $2.028 trillion (11 percent of the U.S. gross domestic product). If our $2 trillion federal regulatory cost were a country, it would be the ninth-largest in the world.
Obama's 3,554 Rules and Regulations Cost Households $15,000 - Breitbart​

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Which federal regulations? For example, I'm down with regulations that require clean water and clean air.

How about this EPA regulation...
Stormwater runoff is generated from rain and snowmelt events that flow over land or impervious surfaces, such as paved streets, parking lots, and building rooftops, and does not soak into the ground. The runoff picks up pollutants like trash, chemicals, oils, and dirt/sediment that can harm our rivers, streams, lakes, and coastal waters. To protect these resources, communities, construction companies, industries, and others, use stormwater controls, known as best management practices (BMPs). These BMPs filter out pollutants and/or prevent pollution by controlling it at its source.
NPDES Stormwater Program | National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System (NPDES) | US EPA


Shahram Kharaghani, watershed protection division manager for Los Angeles, estimated it will cost $5 billion to $8 billion to meet the storm water standards for the city over the next two decades.
New storm water runoff rules could cost cities billions
This is just ONE metropolitan area.
At a cost of approximately $30/person in the top 6 Metropolitan areas with 61 million people that works out to over $36 billion for 20 years.
List of Metropolitan Statistical Areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Who pays it? The cities. Who pays the cities? Property tax owners. NOW do you understand!

So $30 dollars per person every 20 years? Breaking down to an annual cost of $1.50 a year per person for clean water? Given an average family of 4, that's 6 bucks a year.

You've got $14,994.00 a year to go.

 

[g5000]

I suppose the fact that Americans on average commit 3 felonies a day is OK with you

Link?

You Commit Three Felonies a Day

There is nothing in that story which supports your claim.

There are two anecdotes, neither of which have anything to do with the average American. And anecdotes are not evidence.

 

[kiwiman127]

Everyone keeps describing the declining income of Americans.

Here is one major reason!


According to the Competitive Enterprise Institute, covering the cost of federal regulations costs American families close to $15,000 of their average income.
“Can you imagine what your family could do with an additional $14,974 for groceries, gasoline, and savings? Congress owes it to the American people to carefully scrutinize the regulatory process to ensure regulations work for the people,” Lankford’s report notes. “We can balance responsible regulations with cost-effective solutions that work for families.”
While in the past year Obama signed 224 bills into law, he also published 3,554 final rules. “This means that for every law passed by Congress, the federal government created 16 new rules,” according to the report.

These 3,554 regulations impose significant costs on the American economy. The National Association of Manufacturers calculated the total cost of federal regulations in 2012 to be a staggering $2.028 trillion (11 percent of the U.S. gross domestic product). If our $2 trillion federal regulatory cost were a country, it would be the ninth-largest in the world.
Obama's 3,554 Rules and Regulations Cost Households $15,000 - Breitbart​

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Well, my first question is, how much has all previous regulations cost households?
Below is a link that shows how many regulations have been passed from 1976 through 2014, signed by presidents from both parties, those numbers seriously dwarf the 3,554 rules that Obama signed off on. All those previous rules didn't cost households anything? Seriously?
Second question: Obama signed off on those new rules, isn't true that the Congress writes the rules? So isn't it true that the Houseis as responsible for the rules as is the Senate and president? Truth is that the GOP through the years as responsible as the Dems. After all, we have had quite a few Republican presidents and controlled congresses through those years.
So in the other words, your hyper-partisan blog is not being 100% honest with you and it's not even close. But then what does one expect from Brieibart, who has been caught multiple times bullshitting their ever loyal readers. Why do people use hyper-partisan resources and expect to have creditability?
Here's the link that makes my point:
http://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R43056.pdf

 

[NYcarbineer]

Obama's 3,554 Rules and Regulations Cost Households $15,000 - Breitbart​

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$15,000 for regulations.

Please break this figure down. How much is going toward ensuring we have clean water, for example.

How much is going toward ensuring my food isn't toxic?

How much is going toward ensuring my new house doesn't fall over or burst into flames two days after I move in?

Then detail how much is wasteful or unnecessary.

Thank you.

The 15 grand is what you would theoretically save if there were no regulations whatsoever, which is a ridiculous fantasy.

It's like telling you how much you would save, theoretically, if there were no taxes whatsoever, anywhere, on anything.

 

[g5000]

I guess healthmyths is going to continue to just post more anecdotes in order to evade answering how much of the $15,000 is ill spent.

Will he make the stupid mistake of starting topics by brainlessly copying and pasting from a propaganda outlet again? Will he get back in line for a refill of his piss cup?

 

[NYcarbineer]

I suppose the fact that Americans on average commit 3 felonies a day is OK with you

Link?

You Commit Three Felonies a Day

There is nothing in that story which supports your claim.

There are two anecdotes, neither of which have anything to do with the average American. And anecdotes are not evidence.

lol, he'll respond with something like, prove it isn't true.