Fifteen Nails In The Liberal Coffin

[NYcarbineer]

Well, by God, let's just go to the Canadian System. Then PC will have nothing at all to complain about. LOL

lol, by her own admission, she doesn't work, which means she doesn't pay for her own insurance, which means that she is effectively in the same situation an unemployed Medicaid recipient is.

1. I'm immensely wealthy....why is that your business how and in what way I get my health care taken care of?


2. It seems my post, documenting the system-wide failures of ObamaCare exchanges, destroyed your earlier claim..."Obamacare helps poorer people buy private insurance". ..and you've run from that.


3. Your vapid posts tend to prove the OP:
a. The Obama attempts to flood America with Muslims from the most radicalized areas

b. America long ago deposed the Democrats who enforced racism, and there in no need for big government to shield minorities from....them.

c. ObamaCare fails in so very many ways....including that fact that it causes more health problems for the poor."

You produced isolated anecdotes about Obamacare. You should know by now that isolated anecdotes do not prove wider generalizations.

 

[Old Rocks]

LOL. PC, 8Nov16. LOL

 

[Interpol]

Blah blah blah, political correctness, blah blah blah, leftists only believe in big gubmint, blah blah blah, insert unoriginal and baseless assertion/trope about liberals that you copy and pasted from a right-wing blog and try to pass it off for a conversation starter.

Yawn.

 

[OldLady]

The following, a series of talking-point defeats for Liberals....15 of 'em

A person who cuts and pastes talking points cuts and pastes talking points for other cut and pasters to use.

Free thinkers here

I appreciate cut and pastes; I learn stuff.

 

[PoliticalChic]

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It is not hyperbole to call Medicaid a disgrace at its annual cost of about $450 billion, and expanding it rather than helping poor people buy private insurance is simply inexplicable.”

Helping poor people buy private insurance?

You mean like giving them subsidies, and having market based exchanges where they could go to buy the private insurance?

lolol

1. "Helping poor people buy private insurance?"

Poor????

"Middle-income as well as low-income people buying coverage in the Exchanges will be eligible for government subsidies that will come in the form of tax credits. Anyone earning between 100 and 400 percent of the federal poverty level (FPL) (now $11,490 to $45,960 for a single person, and up to $126, 360 for a family of six) will qualify. - See more at: Under Obamacare, Will You Receive a Subsidy to Help You Buy Your Own Insurance? We Now Have Real Numbers That Will Let You Calculate How Much You Will Receive | Health Beat by Maggie Mahar

2. "Typical American family earned $53,657 last year"
Typical American family earned $53,657 last year



3. Clearly, this isn't aimed at helping 'poor,' but at growing government by collectivization.....

We've seen this before:

a. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately. Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.


b. Obama isn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked the American Medical Association because of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

c. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century: Stalin's Forced Famine 1932-33).

d. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life."
Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252



Notice how this applies to you?
"...apologist for state control over most aspects of human life."

 

[NYcarbineer]

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It is not hyperbole to call Medicaid a disgrace at its annual cost of about $450 billion, and expanding it rather than helping poor people buy private insurance is simply inexplicable.”

Helping poor people buy private insurance?

You mean like giving them subsidies, and having market based exchanges where they could go to buy the private insurance?

lolol

1. "Helping poor people buy private insurance?"

Poor????

"Middle-income as well as low-income people buying coverage in the Exchanges will be eligible for government subsidies that will come in the form of tax credits. Anyone earning between 100 and 400 percent of the federal poverty level (FPL) (now $11,490 to $45,960 for a single person, and up to $126, 360 for a family of six) will qualify. - See more at: Under Obamacare, Will You Receive a Subsidy to Help You Buy Your Own Insurance? We Now Have Real Numbers That Will Let You Calculate How Much You Will Receive | Health Beat by Maggie Mahar

2. "Typical American family earned $53,657 last year"
Typical American family earned $53,657 last year



3. Clearly, this isn't aimed at helping 'poor,' but at growing government by collectivization.....

We've seen this before:

a. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately. Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.


b. Obama isn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked the American Medical Association because of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

c. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century: Stalin's Forced Famine 1932-33).

d. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life."
Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252



Notice how this applies to you?
"...apologist for state control over most aspects of human life."

The goal is to provide every American a basic level of healthcare regardless of his or her ability to pay.

Do you oppose that goal?

 

[Camp]

Doesn't this dumb ass ever get tired of being made a fool with her dipey dopey make pretend thesis attempts?

 

[NYcarbineer]

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It is not hyperbole to call Medicaid a disgrace at its annual cost of about $450 billion, and expanding it rather than helping poor people buy private insurance is simply inexplicable.”

Helping poor people buy private insurance?

You mean like giving them subsidies, and having market based exchanges where they could go to buy the private insurance?

lolol

1. "Helping poor people buy private insurance?"

Poor????

"Middle-income as well as low-income people buying coverage in the Exchanges will be eligible for government subsidies that will come in the form of tax credits. Anyone earning between 100 and 400 percent of the federal poverty level (FPL) (now $11,490 to $45,960 for a single person, and up to $126, 360 for a family of six) will qualify. - See more at: Under Obamacare, Will You Receive a Subsidy to Help You Buy Your Own Insurance? We Now Have Real Numbers That Will Let You Calculate How Much You Will Receive | Health Beat by Maggie Mahar

2. "Typical American family earned $53,657 last year"
Typical American family earned $53,657 last year



3. Clearly, this isn't aimed at helping 'poor,' but at growing government by collectivization.....

We've seen this before:

a. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately. Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.


b. Obama isn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked the American Medical Association because of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

c. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century: Stalin's Forced Famine 1932-33).

d. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life."
Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252



Notice how this applies to you?
"...apologist for state control over most aspects of human life."

Ignoring the interminable irrelevancies of your repeated filibusters, which BTW and FYI, no one is reading,

you said you wanted Medicaid replaced with government funded private insurance policies.

How would that work?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Blah blah blah, political correctness, blah blah blah, leftists only believe in big gubmint, blah blah blah, insert unoriginal and baseless assertion/trope about liberals that you copy and pasted from a right-wing blog and try to pass it off for a conversation starter.

Yawn.

Based on what you have posted, we can stipulate that you can find no way to disagree with the facts presented....
a. The Obama attempts to flood America with Muslims from the most radicalized areas

b. America long ago deposed the Democrats who enforced racism, and there in no need for big government to shield minorities from....them.

c. ObamaCare fails in so very many ways....including that fact that it causes more health problems for the poor."

d. Obamacare has only reduced the percentage of U.S. residents without health insurance by 2.7 percentage points,

e. There is no was to pay for the expanded welfare state even by confiscating every cent the wealthy have.

f. . The failure of legalizing drugs: More people died of drug overdoses than from automobile accidents (30,196), murders (13,000) or gun accidents (700).”



Watching your feeble attempt to refute these facts.....documented facts.... is like watching a Eunuch in a Harem. He wants to, but just can’t.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Doesn't this dumb ass ever get tired of being made a fool with her dipey dopey make pretend thesis attempts?

The ability to be concise is key to the ability to debate successfully in a venue such as this. PC's inability is her fatal flaw.

 

[Wildman]

Set 'em up, Liberals.....happy to knock 'em down!

with everything you have posted here, you are a champion for liberty and freedom from libertyranny!!

 

[PoliticalChic]

Doesn't this dumb ass ever get tired of being made a fool with her dipey dopey make pretend thesis attempts?

Still smarting over the beating I gave you in last night's thread...Franklin Roosevelt's Infatuation | Page 21 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum....
Excellent


Now, this:
Based on what you have posted, we can stipulate that you can find no way to disagree with the facts presented....
a. The Obama attempts to flood America with Muslims from the most radicalized areas

b. America long ago deposed the Democrats who enforced racism, and there in no need for big government to shield minorities from....them.

c. ObamaCare fails in so very many ways....including that fact that it causes more health problems for the poor."

d. Obamacare has only reduced the percentage of U.S. residents without health insurance by 2.7 percentage points,

e. There is no was to pay for the expanded welfare state even by confiscating every cent the wealthy have.

f. . The failure of legalizing drugs: More people died of drug overdoses than from automobile accidents (30,196), murders (13,000) or gun accidents (700).”



Watching your feeble attempt to refute these facts.....documented facts.... is like watching a Eunuch in a Harem. He wants to, but just can’t.

 

[NYcarbineer]

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f. . The failure of legalizing drugs: More people died of drug overdoses than from automobile accidents (30,196), murders (13,000) or gun accidents (700).”



.

What drugs has President Obama legalized?

 

[PoliticalChic]

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It is not hyperbole to call Medicaid a disgrace at its annual cost of about $450 billion, and expanding it rather than helping poor people buy private insurance is simply inexplicable.”

Helping poor people buy private insurance?

You mean like giving them subsidies, and having market based exchanges where they could go to buy the private insurance?

lolol

1. "Helping poor people buy private insurance?"

Poor????

"Middle-income as well as low-income people buying coverage in the Exchanges will be eligible for government subsidies that will come in the form of tax credits. Anyone earning between 100 and 400 percent of the federal poverty level (FPL) (now $11,490 to $45,960 for a single person, and up to $126, 360 for a family of six) will qualify. - See more at: Under Obamacare, Will You Receive a Subsidy to Help You Buy Your Own Insurance? We Now Have Real Numbers That Will Let You Calculate How Much You Will Receive | Health Beat by Maggie Mahar

2. "Typical American family earned $53,657 last year"
Typical American family earned $53,657 last year



3. Clearly, this isn't aimed at helping 'poor,' but at growing government by collectivization.....

We've seen this before:

a. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately. Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.


b. Obama isn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked the American Medical Association because of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

c. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century: Stalin's Forced Famine 1932-33).

d. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life."
Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252



Notice how this applies to you?
"...apologist for state control over most aspects of human life."

Ignoring the interminable irrelevancies of your repeated filibusters, which BTW and FYI, no one is reading,

you said you wanted Medicaid replaced with government funded private insurance policies.

How would that work?

"...FYI, no one is reading,..."

So....how do you post your attempted responses without reading the thread?

That must be why you are called the NYLiar, huh?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Doesn't this dumb ass ever get tired of being made a fool with her dipey dopey make pretend thesis attempts?

The ability to be concise is key to the ability to debate successfully in a venue such as this. PC's inability is her fatal flaw.

Another non-post by a Liberal....

Ignoring the facts presented....the best you can do?

 

[PoliticalChic]

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f. . The failure of legalizing drugs: More people died of drug overdoses than from automobile accidents (30,196), murders (13,000) or gun accidents (700).”



.

What drugs has President Obama legalized?

"The Justice Department is set to release about 6,000 inmates early from prison — the largest one-time release of federal prisoners — in an effort to reduce overcrowding and provide relief to drug offenders who received harsh sentences over the past three decades, according to U.S. officials."
Justice Department set to free 6,000 prisoners, largest one-time release

 

[Camp]

The following, a series of talking-point defeats for Liberals....15 of 'em

A person who cuts and pastes talking points cuts and pastes talking points for other cut and pasters to use.

Free thinkers here

I appreciate cut and pastes; I learn stuff.

It is a favored method of propagandist for creating misinformation and disinformation texts. Truth can be turned into lies and lies turned into truth by simply omitting and editing quotes and passages. It also bombards the reader with the necessity to research and evaluate sources from which the cut and paste are derived, a time-consuming task the author knows will not be done by most of the readers. Many of the main source used by PoliticalChic would never be accepted for University credit toward a graded thesis. They are on or below the conspiracy level of standards.

 

[NYcarbineer]

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It is not hyperbole to call Medicaid a disgrace at its annual cost of about $450 billion, and expanding it rather than helping poor people buy private insurance is simply inexplicable.”

Helping poor people buy private insurance?

You mean like giving them subsidies, and having market based exchanges where they could go to buy the private insurance?

lolol

1. "Helping poor people buy private insurance?"

Poor????

"Middle-income as well as low-income people buying coverage in the Exchanges will be eligible for government subsidies that will come in the form of tax credits. Anyone earning between 100 and 400 percent of the federal poverty level (FPL) (now $11,490 to $45,960 for a single person, and up to $126, 360 for a family of six) will qualify. - See more at: Under Obamacare, Will You Receive a Subsidy to Help You Buy Your Own Insurance? We Now Have Real Numbers That Will Let You Calculate How Much You Will Receive | Health Beat by Maggie Mahar

2. "Typical American family earned $53,657 last year"
Typical American family earned $53,657 last year



3. Clearly, this isn't aimed at helping 'poor,' but at growing government by collectivization.....

We've seen this before:

a. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately. Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.


b. Obama isn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked the American Medical Association because of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

c. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century: Stalin's Forced Famine 1932-33).

d. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life."
Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252



Notice how this applies to you?
"...apologist for state control over most aspects of human life."

Ignoring the interminable irrelevancies of your repeated filibusters, which BTW and FYI, no one is reading,

you said you wanted Medicaid replaced with government funded private insurance policies.

How would that work?

"...FYI, no one is reading,..."

So....how do you post your attempted responses without reading the thread?

That must be why you are called the NYLiar, huh?

I need not labor through the entirety of your tedious posts in order to find an easy target.

 

[NYcarbineer]

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f. . The failure of legalizing drugs: More people died of drug overdoses than from automobile accidents (30,196), murders (13,000) or gun accidents (700).”



.

What drugs has President Obama legalized?

"The Justice Department is set to release about 6,000 inmates early from prison — the largest one-time release of federal prisoners — in an effort to reduce overcrowding and provide relief to drug offenders who received harsh sentences over the past three decades, according to U.S. officials."
Justice Department set to free 6,000 prisoners, largest one-time release

The question was, what drugs has Obama legalized?

Your verbatim quote contained the words "the failure of legalizing drugs"

What drugs?

Name two.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Doesn't this dumb ass ever get tired of being made a fool with her dipey dopey make pretend thesis attempts?

The ability to be concise is key to the ability to debate successfully in a venue such as this. PC's inability is her fatal flaw.

Another non-post by a Liberal....

Ignoring the facts presented....the best you can do?

You claimed that buying private insurance for Medicaid recipients was preferable to the current system.

It's your claim, explain how it would work, or, continue to dodge the issue YOU BROUGHT UP

and prove by your obstinate silence that you have no clue how it would work.