Finally!!!

[Care4all]

They may have called it a crisis before. Not sure.

But in no way is it a "national emergency"....

But keep it up kiddies; someday that molehill might become a mountain

precisely!

It is a humanitarian crisis...

It's an invasion that needs to be stopped. Democrats should be arrested and hung.

What exactly are Democrats doing that you think is causing the crisis we are in, RIGHT NOW?

huh?

Other than Trump trying to use this as a campaign issue, so he does what he does best, point the finger elsewhere to cause division, what has he or the Republicans done to help stop this crisis or make it less of a crisis instead of worse the past 2 years when they were in control of both houses and the presidency? Remember, Dems gave him 25 billion for immigration and border security and THIS PRESIDENT turned that DOWN well over a year ago.... Why did he do that???

Stop being purposely disingenuous, you know why.

NO, I do NOT know why President Trump turned it down, when he specifically said he would NOT turn it down, before the handful of Dems and Repubs, came up with the national security/immigration plan....President Trump is the one who asked for it and they came up with legislation and appropriations, to do it???

So why don't you explain it to me, if you believe you and the world already knows.....?

 

[Marion Morrison]

They may have called it a crisis before. Not sure.

But in no way is it a "national emergency"....

But keep it up kiddies; someday that molehill might become a mountain

precisely!

It is a humanitarian crisis...

It's an invasion that needs to be stopped. Democrats should be arrested and hung.

What exactly are Democrats doing that you think is causing the crisis we are in, RIGHT NOW?

huh?

Other than Trump trying to use this as a campaign issue, so he does what he does best, point the finger elsewhere to cause division, what has he or the Republicans done to help stop this crisis or make it less of a crisis instead of worse the past 2 years when they were in control of both houses and the presidency? Remember, Dems gave him 25 billion for immigration and border security and THIS PRESIDENT turned that DOWN well over a year ago.... Why did he do that???

Stop being purposely disingenuous, you know why.

NO, I do NOT know why President Trump turned it down, when he specifically said he would NOT turn it down, before the handful of Dems and Repubs, came up with the national security/immigration plan....President Trump is the one who asked for it and they came up with legislation and appropriations, to do it???

So why don't you explain it to me, if you believe you and the world already knows.....?

There was a shit ton of pork and too many concessions in there.

Why can't a federal bill ever be written straight up?

 

[buckeye45_73]

Ok good, so the problem is more money for those immigration courts and border patrol? I also think we should have a wall to stop the illegal crossings and for those waiting, maybe we should develop a place to keep them all until the case is resolved, so we can keep them out of the general population and keep the families together.....

All good ideas worth considering...

a wall alone won't fix it.... they will find ways over and under it...

but truly, we need a way to keep them in their own countries and not making this dangerous trip coming here for rescue... we need to get to the root of this problem.... somehow....?

I think a wall is a great start....it makes it harder, which is the point....and helps the border patrol funnel them to places.
But yes, we do need to fix the system, bigtime. Really we need to say if you come here illegally you get nothing........and as far as their own countries, you'd have to get rid of these corrupt regimes......not sure how to do that, but we need to come up with something

We need to get back to a proper definition of refugee: someone being persecuted by his government. Being a victim of crime, domestic abuse or poor economic circumstances does not justify refugee status. We also need to exempt anyone who just shows up at the border from refugee status. We have embassies and consulates throughout the world at which they can apply.

I couldn't agree more.......it's not our job to take in the rabble of the Earth

We've taken in the thousands and thousands and thousands of Mariel boat lift Cubans as refugees, the Somalians as refugees, the Syrians as refugees, the Irish as refugees, the Haitians as refugees, the Iraqi as refugees, the Nicaraguans as refugees, the Venezuelans as refugees, the Italians as refugees, the Liberians as refugees, the Chinese as refugees, the Russians as refugees, the Vietnamese as refugees etc etc etc...

What makes what you call the rabble of the earth, that we have taken in over the years, different now? What has made you go "all snowflake" on the issue? Or what makes you believe that it is important that we CHANGE and not be a refuge for the tired, the poor, the hungry, the meek, as we have ALWAYS been?

Maybe it is because our wages with inflation, have stayed flat for the past 40 years and the few are getting ahead? Maybe because people are not truly religious anymore? Maybe we have just all become waxed over cold, as Bible prophesy predicted? dunno? I suppose that is the $64,000 question....?

Because we cant handle the numbers and we allow millions in LEGALLY....and the ones coming from those countries had actual claims.....we allowed people from commie countries, because socialism it fucking horrible.......as for now.....we are full.......and we would like people to assimilate.

And why are all these people resettled into poor and rural places, why not the big cities? Why do the lefties not want these people in THEIR neighborhoods?

 

[boedicca]

All good ideas worth considering...

a wall alone won't fix it.... they will find ways over and under it...

but truly, we need a way to keep them in their own countries and not making this dangerous trip coming here for rescue... we need to get to the root of this problem.... somehow....?

I think a wall is a great start....it makes it harder, which is the point....and helps the border patrol funnel them to places.
But yes, we do need to fix the system, bigtime. Really we need to say if you come here illegally you get nothing........and as far as their own countries, you'd have to get rid of these corrupt regimes......not sure how to do that, but we need to come up with something

We need to get back to a proper definition of refugee: someone being persecuted by his government. Being a victim of crime, domestic abuse or poor economic circumstances does not justify refugee status. We also need to exempt anyone who just shows up at the border from refugee status. We have embassies and consulates throughout the world at which they can apply.

I couldn't agree more.......it's not our job to take in the rabble of the Earth

We've taken in the thousands and thousands and thousands of Mariel boat lift Cubans as refugees, the Somalians as refugees, the Syrians as refugees, the Irish as refugees, the Haitians as refugees, the Iraqi as refugees, the Nicaraguans as refugees, the Venezuelans as refugees, the Italians as refugees, the Liberians as refugees, the Chinese as refugees, the Russians as refugees, the Vietnamese as refugees etc etc etc...

What makes what you call the rabble of the earth, that we have taken in over the years, different now? What has made you go "all snowflake" on the issue? Or what makes you believe that it is important that we CHANGE and not be a refuge for the tired, the poor, the hungry, the meek, as we have ALWAYS been?

Maybe it is because our wages with inflation, have stayed flat for the past 40 years and the few are getting ahead? Maybe because people are not truly religious anymore? Maybe we have just all become waxed over cold, as Bible prophesy predicted? dunno? I suppose that is the $64,000 question....?

Because we cant handle the numbers and we allow millions in LEGALLY....and the ones coming from those countries had actual claims.....we allowed people from commie countries, because socialism it fucking horrible.......as for now.....we are full.......and we would like people to assimilate.

And why are all these people resettled into poor and rural places, why not the big cities? Why do the lefties not want these people in THEIR neighborhoods?

Why aren't illegals settled in big cities? Easy peasy lemon squeezy: The Progs are totally NIMBY - hence they make sure that illegals are settled in the Deplorables' neighborhoods.

 

[buckeye45_73]

I think a wall is a great start....it makes it harder, which is the point....and helps the border patrol funnel them to places.
But yes, we do need to fix the system, bigtime. Really we need to say if you come here illegally you get nothing........and as far as their own countries, you'd have to get rid of these corrupt regimes......not sure how to do that, but we need to come up with something

We need to get back to a proper definition of refugee: someone being persecuted by his government. Being a victim of crime, domestic abuse or poor economic circumstances does not justify refugee status. We also need to exempt anyone who just shows up at the border from refugee status. We have embassies and consulates throughout the world at which they can apply.

I couldn't agree more.......it's not our job to take in the rabble of the Earth

We've taken in the thousands and thousands and thousands of Mariel boat lift Cubans as refugees, the Somalians as refugees, the Syrians as refugees, the Irish as refugees, the Haitians as refugees, the Iraqi as refugees, the Nicaraguans as refugees, the Venezuelans as refugees, the Italians as refugees, the Liberians as refugees, the Chinese as refugees, the Russians as refugees, the Vietnamese as refugees etc etc etc...

What makes what you call the rabble of the earth, that we have taken in over the years, different now? What has made you go "all snowflake" on the issue? Or what makes you believe that it is important that we CHANGE and not be a refuge for the tired, the poor, the hungry, the meek, as we have ALWAYS been?

Maybe it is because our wages with inflation, have stayed flat for the past 40 years and the few are getting ahead? Maybe because people are not truly religious anymore? Maybe we have just all become waxed over cold, as Bible prophesy predicted? dunno? I suppose that is the $64,000 question....?

Because we cant handle the numbers and we allow millions in LEGALLY....and the ones coming from those countries had actual claims.....we allowed people from commie countries, because socialism it fucking horrible.......as for now.....we are full.......and we would like people to assimilate.

And why are all these people resettled into poor and rural places, why not the big cities? Why do the lefties not want these people in THEIR neighborhoods?

Why aren't illegals settled in big cities? Easy peasy lemon squeezy: The Progs are totally NIMBY - hence they make sure that illegals are settled in the Deplorables' neighborhoods.

I agree, I want to hear the leftwing argument......it's gonna be hilarious

 

[boedicca]

We need to get back to a proper definition of refugee: someone being persecuted by his government. Being a victim of crime, domestic abuse or poor economic circumstances does not justify refugee status. We also need to exempt anyone who just shows up at the border from refugee status. We have embassies and consulates throughout the world at which they can apply.

I couldn't agree more.......it's not our job to take in the rabble of the Earth

We've taken in the thousands and thousands and thousands of Mariel boat lift Cubans as refugees, the Somalians as refugees, the Syrians as refugees, the Irish as refugees, the Haitians as refugees, the Iraqi as refugees, the Nicaraguans as refugees, the Venezuelans as refugees, the Italians as refugees, the Liberians as refugees, the Chinese as refugees, the Russians as refugees, the Vietnamese as refugees etc etc etc...

What makes what you call the rabble of the earth, that we have taken in over the years, different now? What has made you go "all snowflake" on the issue? Or what makes you believe that it is important that we CHANGE and not be a refuge for the tired, the poor, the hungry, the meek, as we have ALWAYS been?

Maybe it is because our wages with inflation, have stayed flat for the past 40 years and the few are getting ahead? Maybe because people are not truly religious anymore? Maybe we have just all become waxed over cold, as Bible prophesy predicted? dunno? I suppose that is the $64,000 question....?

Because we cant handle the numbers and we allow millions in LEGALLY....and the ones coming from those countries had actual claims.....we allowed people from commie countries, because socialism it fucking horrible.......as for now.....we are full.......and we would like people to assimilate.

And why are all these people resettled into poor and rural places, why not the big cities? Why do the lefties not want these people in THEIR neighborhoods?

Why aren't illegals settled in big cities? Easy peasy lemon squeezy: The Progs are totally NIMBY - hence they make sure that illegals are settled in the Deplorables' neighborhoods.

I agree, I want to hear the leftwing argument......it's gonna be hilarious

Last night on Tucker, one Prog made the argument that settling illegals in big cities wasn't fair to them because of the cultural differences between them and the Big City Dwellers. Tucker then pressed him on why it was fair to locate them in poor areas instead. Of course the Prog had no answer.

 

[buckeye45_73]

I couldn't agree more.......it's not our job to take in the rabble of the Earth

We've taken in the thousands and thousands and thousands of Mariel boat lift Cubans as refugees, the Somalians as refugees, the Syrians as refugees, the Irish as refugees, the Haitians as refugees, the Iraqi as refugees, the Nicaraguans as refugees, the Venezuelans as refugees, the Italians as refugees, the Liberians as refugees, the Chinese as refugees, the Russians as refugees, the Vietnamese as refugees etc etc etc...

What makes what you call the rabble of the earth, that we have taken in over the years, different now? What has made you go "all snowflake" on the issue? Or what makes you believe that it is important that we CHANGE and not be a refuge for the tired, the poor, the hungry, the meek, as we have ALWAYS been?

Maybe it is because our wages with inflation, have stayed flat for the past 40 years and the few are getting ahead? Maybe because people are not truly religious anymore? Maybe we have just all become waxed over cold, as Bible prophesy predicted? dunno? I suppose that is the $64,000 question....?

Because we cant handle the numbers and we allow millions in LEGALLY....and the ones coming from those countries had actual claims.....we allowed people from commie countries, because socialism it fucking horrible.......as for now.....we are full.......and we would like people to assimilate.

And why are all these people resettled into poor and rural places, why not the big cities? Why do the lefties not want these people in THEIR neighborhoods?

Why aren't illegals settled in big cities? Easy peasy lemon squeezy: The Progs are totally NIMBY - hence they make sure that illegals are settled in the Deplorables' neighborhoods.

I agree, I want to hear the leftwing argument......it's gonna be hilarious

Last night on Tucker, one Prog made the argument that settling illegals in big cities wasn't fair to them because of the cultural differences between them and the Big City Dwellers. Tucker then pressed him on why it was fair to locate them in poor areas instead. Of course the Prog had no answer.

yeah I saw that, it was Richard Goodstein.....these people are sick, they know illegals are bad and want to punish white rural folks with them.....the left is disgusting......

 

[Care4all]

All good ideas worth considering...

a wall alone won't fix it.... they will find ways over and under it...

but truly, we need a way to keep them in their own countries and not making this dangerous trip coming here for rescue... we need to get to the root of this problem.... somehow....?

I think a wall is a great start....it makes it harder, which is the point....and helps the border patrol funnel them to places.
But yes, we do need to fix the system, bigtime. Really we need to say if you come here illegally you get nothing........and as far as their own countries, you'd have to get rid of these corrupt regimes......not sure how to do that, but we need to come up with something

We need to get back to a proper definition of refugee: someone being persecuted by his government. Being a victim of crime, domestic abuse or poor economic circumstances does not justify refugee status. We also need to exempt anyone who just shows up at the border from refugee status. We have embassies and consulates throughout the world at which they can apply.

I couldn't agree more.......it's not our job to take in the rabble of the Earth

We've taken in the thousands and thousands and thousands of Mariel boat lift Cubans as refugees, the Somalians as refugees, the Syrians as refugees, the Irish as refugees, the Haitians as refugees, the Iraqi as refugees, the Nicaraguans as refugees, the Venezuelans as refugees, the Italians as refugees, the Liberians as refugees, the Chinese as refugees, the Russians as refugees, the Vietnamese as refugees etc etc etc...

What makes what you call the rabble of the earth, that we have taken in over the years, different now? What has made you go "all snowflake" on the issue? Or what makes you believe that it is important that we CHANGE and not be a refuge for the tired, the poor, the hungry, the meek, as we have ALWAYS been?

Maybe it is because our wages with inflation, have stayed flat for the past 40 years and the few are getting ahead? Maybe because people are not truly religious anymore? Maybe we have just all become waxed over cold, as Bible prophesy predicted? dunno? I suppose that is the $64,000 question....?

Because we cant handle the numbers and we allow millions in LEGALLY....and the ones coming from those countries had actual claims.....we allowed people from commie countries, because socialism it fucking horrible.......as for now.....we are full.......and we would like people to assimilate.

And why are all these people resettled into poor and rural places, why not the big cities? Why do the lefties not want these people in THEIR neighborhoods?

I did not know that Refugees were only settled in to poor and rural areas? I thought it was the cities that took most of the accepted refugees in....

In Maine we have a community of Somalian refugees, who initially were brought to Portland Maine, the State's largest city of about 1 million people, but then moved to a nearby town that was dying because the paper mill had shut down, and was able to buy land for farming, for homes, or rent property for real cheaply due to the Mainer's having no jobs at the paper mill anymore and moving elsewhere for work....

They liked it despite the bitter cold winters, and lots of Somalian refugees from throughout the United States ended up coming to that community, by the thousands, to make a living in farming, in fishing, and they developed their own stores with their own Somalian foods available for the community to buy and own clothing stores etc etc etc...

The Mainers struggled initially with their bigotry, even a cut off pigs head was thrown in to their Mosque....

but after a decade, it is now a normal thriving community, and the bigotry subsided, for the most part.

Crime went down in the community when they took over the newly forming ghost town, with their arrival, not up....

It is my understanding that accepted refugees are placed by the Churches in to homes and areas that accept them... Our government utilizes Faith Based Organizations to assimilate them....?

And I believed this was in mostly populated areas, not poor and rural areas???