Florida Concealed Carry permits handed out at 20,000 a month…and gun crime is going down, not up...

[2aguy]

And even more studies that show that concealed carry lowers the crime rate...

http://crimepreventionresearchcente...-Maryland-Law-Review-Lott-Concealed-Carry.pdf

Lott...list of papers...

Of course, the single paper that Shermer cites was mentioned and discussed at length in the review of the literature that Lott provided in More Guns, Less Crime (click on screen shots to make them larger). Unfortunately, Scientific American wasn’t willing to allow a link to this list of papers.



Do Right-to-carry laws reduce violent crime? - Crime Prevention Research Center


A 2012 survey of the literature is available here. Some of the research showing that concealed carry laws reduce violent crime is listed here.

Crime, Deterrence, and Right-to-Carry Concealed Handguns by John R. Lott, Jr. and David B. Mustard, Journal of Legal Studies, 1997

The Effect of Concealed Weapons Laws: An Extreme Bound Analysis by William Alan Bartley and Mark A Cohen, published in Economic Inquiry, April 1998 (Copy available here)

Criminal Deterrence, Geographic Spillovers, and Right-to-Carry Concealed Handguns by Stephen Bronars and John R. Lott, Jr., American Economic Review, May 1998

The Impact of Gun Laws on Police Deaths by David Mustard, published in the Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Privately Produced General Deterrence By BRUCE L. BENSON AND BRENT D. MAST, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Does the Right to Carry Concealed Handguns Deter Countable Crimes? Only a Count Analysis Can Say By FLORENZ PLASSMANN AND T. NICOLAUS TIDEMAN, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Testing for the Effects of Concealed Weapons Laws: Specification Errors and Robustness By CARLISLE E. MOODY, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Safe-Storage Gun Laws: Accidental Deaths, Suicides, and Crime By JOHN R. LOTT, JR., AND JOHN E. WHITLEY, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Right-to-Carry Concealed Weapon Laws and Homicide in Large U.S. Counties: The Effect on Weapon Types, Victim Characteristics, and Victim-Offender Relationships By DAVID E. OLSON AND MICHAEL D. MALTZ, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

The Impact of Banning Juvenile Gun Possession By Thomas B. Marvell, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Measurement Error in County-Level UCR Data by John R. Lott, Jr. and John Whitley, published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology, June 2003, Volume 19, Issue 2, pp 185-198

Confirming More Guns, Less Crime by Florenz Plassmann and John Whitley, published in the Stanford Law Review, 2003

Using Placebo Laws to Test “More Guns, Less Crime” by Eric Helland and Alexander Tabarrok, published in Advances in Economic Analysis and Policy, 4 (1): Article 1, 2004

Multiple Victim Public Shootings, Bombings, and Right-to-Carry Concealed Handgun Laws: Contrasting Private and Public Law Enforcement By John R. Lott, Jr. and William Landes, published in The Bias Against Guns

More Readers of Gun Magazines, But Not More Crimes by Florenz Plassmann and John R. Lott, Jr.

“More Guns, Less Crime” by John R Lott, Jr. (University of Chicago Press, 2010, 3rd edition).

“The Debate on Shall-Issue Laws” by Carlisle e. Moody, Thomas B. Marvell, Paul R Zimmerman, and Fasil Alemante published in Review of Economics & Finance, 2014

“An examination of the effects of concealed weapons laws and assault weapons bans on state-level murder rates” by Mark Giusa published in Applied Economics Letters, Volume 21, Issue 4, 2014

“The Debate on Shall-Issue Laws” by Carlisle e. Moody and Thomas B. Marvell, published in Econ Journal Watch, volume 5, number 3, September 2008

“The Debate on Shall Issue Laws, Continued” by Carlisle e. Moody and Thomas B. Marvell, published in Econ Journal Watch, Volume 6, Number 2 May 2009

“Did John Lott Provide Bad Data to the NRC? A Note on Aneja, Donohue, and Zhang” by Carlisle e. Moody, John R Lott, Jr, and Thomas B. Marvell, published in Econ Journal Watch, Volume 10, Number 1, January 2013

More Guns, Less Crime: A Response to Ayres and Donohue’s 1999 book review in the American Law and Economics Review by John R. Lott, Jr.

Right-to-Carry Laws and Violent Crime Revisited: Clustering, Measurement Error, and State-by-State Break downs by John R. Lott, Jr.

Almost all are gun nut lott. He uses surveys that don't even exist.

Again if it were true we would have the lowest crime rates in the world. We are far from that.

And of course all the other studies that aren't Lott's work although he is the preeminent researcher in the field...wow, thinking the preeminent researcher in the field would have done a lot of research.....that really is crazy thinking brain.

The "More Guns, Less Crime" Concealed Carry Hypothesis Frequently Cited By Conservative Media Has Been Repeatedly Debunked. The idea that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime rates was popularized by economist John Lott, although Lott's research on the matter has been debunked repeatedly and Lott has faced numerous accusations of unethical research practices:

John Lott is, without exception, the most prolific and influential writer on the topic of gun violence and gun control. He has credentials that would make most academics envious--with various stints at Stanford, Rice, UCLA, Wharton, Cornell, the University of Chicago and Yale.

[...]

While his initial research was groundbreaking, further examination revealed numerous flaws. Today the "more guns, less crime" hypothesis has been thoroughly repudiated. On closer inspection his impressive credentials reveal an academic nomad, never able to secure a place in academia. His ethical transgressions range from accusations of fabricating an entire survey, to presenting faulty regressions, to creating elaborate online personas to defend his work and bash critics, to trying to revise his online history to deflect arguments. And this doesn't even begin to cover the whole host of false claims and statistics he has peddled repeatedly in articles and TV appearances.


Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

And of course david hemenway, the guy whose studies are biased and influenced by his connections to gun control groups pops up again…...

 

[Dad2three]

And even more studies that show that concealed carry lowers the crime rate...

http://crimepreventionresearchcente...-Maryland-Law-Review-Lott-Concealed-Carry.pdf

Lott...list of papers...

Of course, the single paper that Shermer cites was mentioned and discussed at length in the review of the literature that Lott provided in More Guns, Less Crime (click on screen shots to make them larger). Unfortunately, Scientific American wasn’t willing to allow a link to this list of papers.



Do Right-to-carry laws reduce violent crime? - Crime Prevention Research Center


A 2012 survey of the literature is available here. Some of the research showing that concealed carry laws reduce violent crime is listed here.

Crime, Deterrence, and Right-to-Carry Concealed Handguns by John R. Lott, Jr. and David B. Mustard, Journal of Legal Studies, 1997

The Effect of Concealed Weapons Laws: An Extreme Bound Analysis by William Alan Bartley and Mark A Cohen, published in Economic Inquiry, April 1998 (Copy available here)

Criminal Deterrence, Geographic Spillovers, and Right-to-Carry Concealed Handguns by Stephen Bronars and John R. Lott, Jr., American Economic Review, May 1998

The Impact of Gun Laws on Police Deaths by David Mustard, published in the Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Privately Produced General Deterrence By BRUCE L. BENSON AND BRENT D. MAST, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Does the Right to Carry Concealed Handguns Deter Countable Crimes? Only a Count Analysis Can Say By FLORENZ PLASSMANN AND T. NICOLAUS TIDEMAN, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Testing for the Effects of Concealed Weapons Laws: Specification Errors and Robustness By CARLISLE E. MOODY, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Safe-Storage Gun Laws: Accidental Deaths, Suicides, and Crime By JOHN R. LOTT, JR., AND JOHN E. WHITLEY, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Right-to-Carry Concealed Weapon Laws and Homicide in Large U.S. Counties: The Effect on Weapon Types, Victim Characteristics, and Victim-Offender Relationships By DAVID E. OLSON AND MICHAEL D. MALTZ, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

The Impact of Banning Juvenile Gun Possession By Thomas B. Marvell, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Measurement Error in County-Level UCR Data by John R. Lott, Jr. and John Whitley, published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology, June 2003, Volume 19, Issue 2, pp 185-198

Confirming More Guns, Less Crime by Florenz Plassmann and John Whitley, published in the Stanford Law Review, 2003

Using Placebo Laws to Test “More Guns, Less Crime” by Eric Helland and Alexander Tabarrok, published in Advances in Economic Analysis and Policy, 4 (1): Article 1, 2004

Multiple Victim Public Shootings, Bombings, and Right-to-Carry Concealed Handgun Laws: Contrasting Private and Public Law Enforcement By John R. Lott, Jr. and William Landes, published in The Bias Against Guns

More Readers of Gun Magazines, But Not More Crimes by Florenz Plassmann and John R. Lott, Jr.

“More Guns, Less Crime” by John R Lott, Jr. (University of Chicago Press, 2010, 3rd edition).

“The Debate on Shall-Issue Laws” by Carlisle e. Moody, Thomas B. Marvell, Paul R Zimmerman, and Fasil Alemante published in Review of Economics & Finance, 2014

“An examination of the effects of concealed weapons laws and assault weapons bans on state-level murder rates” by Mark Giusa published in Applied Economics Letters, Volume 21, Issue 4, 2014

“The Debate on Shall-Issue Laws” by Carlisle e. Moody and Thomas B. Marvell, published in Econ Journal Watch, volume 5, number 3, September 2008

“The Debate on Shall Issue Laws, Continued” by Carlisle e. Moody and Thomas B. Marvell, published in Econ Journal Watch, Volume 6, Number 2 May 2009

“Did John Lott Provide Bad Data to the NRC? A Note on Aneja, Donohue, and Zhang” by Carlisle e. Moody, John R Lott, Jr, and Thomas B. Marvell, published in Econ Journal Watch, Volume 10, Number 1, January 2013

More Guns, Less Crime: A Response to Ayres and Donohue’s 1999 book review in the American Law and Economics Review by John R. Lott, Jr.

Right-to-Carry Laws and Violent Crime Revisited: Clustering, Measurement Error, and State-by-State Break downs by John R. Lott, Jr.

Almost all are gun nut lott. He uses surveys that don't even exist.

Again if it were true we would have the lowest crime rates in the world. We are far from that.

And of course all the other studies that aren't Lott's work although he is the preeminent researcher in the field...wow, thinking the preeminent researcher in the field would have done a lot of research.....that really is crazy thinking brain.

The "More Guns, Less Crime" Concealed Carry Hypothesis Frequently Cited By Conservative Media Has Been Repeatedly Debunked. The idea that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime rates was popularized by economist John Lott, although Lott's research on the matter has been debunked repeatedly and Lott has faced numerous accusations of unethical research practices:

John Lott is, without exception, the most prolific and influential writer on the topic of gun violence and gun control. He has credentials that would make most academics envious--with various stints at Stanford, Rice, UCLA, Wharton, Cornell, the University of Chicago and Yale.

[...]

While his initial research was groundbreaking, further examination revealed numerous flaws. Today the "more guns, less crime" hypothesis has been thoroughly repudiated. On closer inspection his impressive credentials reveal an academic nomad, never able to secure a place in academia. His ethical transgressions range from accusations of fabricating an entire survey, to presenting faulty regressions, to creating elaborate online personas to defend his work and bash critics, to trying to revise his online history to deflect arguments. And this doesn't even begin to cover the whole host of false claims and statistics he has peddled repeatedly in articles and TV appearances.


Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

And of course david hemenway, the guy whose studies are biased and influenced by his connections to gun control groups pops up again…...

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime. According to a survey of authors of articles about firearms in peer-reviewed journals conducted by the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, 62 percent of respondents rejected the notion that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime:

New Harvard research debunks the NRA's favorite talking points

 

[Dad2three]

American Journal Of Public Health Study: Correlation Exists Between Gun Ownership Rates And Gun Homicide Rates. A 2013 study that covered 30 years of data "found a 'robust correlation' between estimated levels of gun ownership and actual gun homicides at the state level, even when controlling for factors typically associated with homicides"

BU Researcher Finds Correlation Between Gun Ownership and Firearm Homicide | Public Relations







Harvard Injury Control Research Center: "In Homes, Cities, States And Regions In The US, Where There Are More Guns" There Are More Gun Homicides.

Homicide | Harvard Injury Control Research Center | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health



University Of Pennsylvania Firearm & Injury Center: Higher Gun Ownership Rates Linked To Higher Gun Death Rates On International Scale. Comparing high-income nations, the University of Pennsylvania Firearm & Injury Center found "The U.S. has the highest rates of both firearm homicide and private firearm ownership":

The correlation between firearm availability and rates of homicide is consistent across high income industrialized nations: where there are more firearms, there are higher rates of homicide overall. The U.S. has the highest rates of both firearm homicide and private firearm ownership. In 2001 an estimated 35% of U.S. households had a firearm


https://web.archive.org/web/2011121...u/ficap/resourcebook/pdf/monograph.pdf#page=6

Sorry, those studies have been shown to be biased and poorly executed.

I have posted more studies on how guns save lives and lower the crime rate…you should look into those.

lol

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime. According to a survey of authors of articles about firearms in peer-reviewed journals conducted by the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, 62 percent of respondents rejected the notion that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime:

New Harvard research debunks the NRA's favorite talking points


9% are on your side dummy? It's the anti's 2nds who are biased though? lol

 

[2aguy]

And even more studies that show that concealed carry lowers the crime rate...

http://crimepreventionresearchcente...-Maryland-Law-Review-Lott-Concealed-Carry.pdf

Lott...list of papers...

Of course, the single paper that Shermer cites was mentioned and discussed at length in the review of the literature that Lott provided in More Guns, Less Crime (click on screen shots to make them larger). Unfortunately, Scientific American wasn’t willing to allow a link to this list of papers.



Do Right-to-carry laws reduce violent crime? - Crime Prevention Research Center


A 2012 survey of the literature is available here. Some of the research showing that concealed carry laws reduce violent crime is listed here.

Crime, Deterrence, and Right-to-Carry Concealed Handguns by John R. Lott, Jr. and David B. Mustard, Journal of Legal Studies, 1997

The Effect of Concealed Weapons Laws: An Extreme Bound Analysis by William Alan Bartley and Mark A Cohen, published in Economic Inquiry, April 1998 (Copy available here)

Criminal Deterrence, Geographic Spillovers, and Right-to-Carry Concealed Handguns by Stephen Bronars and John R. Lott, Jr., American Economic Review, May 1998

The Impact of Gun Laws on Police Deaths by David Mustard, published in the Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Privately Produced General Deterrence By BRUCE L. BENSON AND BRENT D. MAST, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Does the Right to Carry Concealed Handguns Deter Countable Crimes? Only a Count Analysis Can Say By FLORENZ PLASSMANN AND T. NICOLAUS TIDEMAN, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Testing for the Effects of Concealed Weapons Laws: Specification Errors and Robustness By CARLISLE E. MOODY, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Safe-Storage Gun Laws: Accidental Deaths, Suicides, and Crime By JOHN R. LOTT, JR., AND JOHN E. WHITLEY, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Right-to-Carry Concealed Weapon Laws and Homicide in Large U.S. Counties: The Effect on Weapon Types, Victim Characteristics, and Victim-Offender Relationships By DAVID E. OLSON AND MICHAEL D. MALTZ, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

The Impact of Banning Juvenile Gun Possession By Thomas B. Marvell, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Measurement Error in County-Level UCR Data by John R. Lott, Jr. and John Whitley, published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology, June 2003, Volume 19, Issue 2, pp 185-198

Confirming More Guns, Less Crime by Florenz Plassmann and John Whitley, published in the Stanford Law Review, 2003

Using Placebo Laws to Test “More Guns, Less Crime” by Eric Helland and Alexander Tabarrok, published in Advances in Economic Analysis and Policy, 4 (1): Article 1, 2004

Multiple Victim Public Shootings, Bombings, and Right-to-Carry Concealed Handgun Laws: Contrasting Private and Public Law Enforcement By John R. Lott, Jr. and William Landes, published in The Bias Against Guns

More Readers of Gun Magazines, But Not More Crimes by Florenz Plassmann and John R. Lott, Jr.

“More Guns, Less Crime” by John R Lott, Jr. (University of Chicago Press, 2010, 3rd edition).

“The Debate on Shall-Issue Laws” by Carlisle e. Moody, Thomas B. Marvell, Paul R Zimmerman, and Fasil Alemante published in Review of Economics & Finance, 2014

“An examination of the effects of concealed weapons laws and assault weapons bans on state-level murder rates” by Mark Giusa published in Applied Economics Letters, Volume 21, Issue 4, 2014

“The Debate on Shall-Issue Laws” by Carlisle e. Moody and Thomas B. Marvell, published in Econ Journal Watch, volume 5, number 3, September 2008

“The Debate on Shall Issue Laws, Continued” by Carlisle e. Moody and Thomas B. Marvell, published in Econ Journal Watch, Volume 6, Number 2 May 2009

“Did John Lott Provide Bad Data to the NRC? A Note on Aneja, Donohue, and Zhang” by Carlisle e. Moody, John R Lott, Jr, and Thomas B. Marvell, published in Econ Journal Watch, Volume 10, Number 1, January 2013

More Guns, Less Crime: A Response to Ayres and Donohue’s 1999 book review in the American Law and Economics Review by John R. Lott, Jr.

Right-to-Carry Laws and Violent Crime Revisited: Clustering, Measurement Error, and State-by-State Break downs by John R. Lott, Jr.

Almost all are gun nut lott. He uses surveys that don't even exist.

Again if it were true we would have the lowest crime rates in the world. We are far from that.

And of course all the other studies that aren't Lott's work although he is the preeminent researcher in the field...wow, thinking the preeminent researcher in the field would have done a lot of research.....that really is crazy thinking brain.

The "More Guns, Less Crime" Concealed Carry Hypothesis Frequently Cited By Conservative Media Has Been Repeatedly Debunked. The idea that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime rates was popularized by economist John Lott, although Lott's research on the matter has been debunked repeatedly and Lott has faced numerous accusations of unethical research practices:

John Lott is, without exception, the most prolific and influential writer on the topic of gun violence and gun control. He has credentials that would make most academics envious--with various stints at Stanford, Rice, UCLA, Wharton, Cornell, the University of Chicago and Yale.

[...]

While his initial research was groundbreaking, further examination revealed numerous flaws. Today the "more guns, less crime" hypothesis has been thoroughly repudiated. On closer inspection his impressive credentials reveal an academic nomad, never able to secure a place in academia. His ethical transgressions range from accusations of fabricating an entire survey, to presenting faulty regressions, to creating elaborate online personas to defend his work and bash critics, to trying to revise his online history to deflect arguments. And this doesn't even begin to cover the whole host of false claims and statistics he has peddled repeatedly in articles and TV appearances.


Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

And of course david hemenway, the guy whose studies are biased and influenced by his connections to gun control groups pops up again…...

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime. According to a survey of authors of articles about firearms in peer-reviewed journals conducted by the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, 62 percent of respondents rejected the notion that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime:

New Harvard research debunks the NRA's favorite talking points

Hemenway is a hack…he is a biased, anti gun researcher…..

http://crimepreventionresearchcente...dy-by-monuteaux-lee-hemenway-mannix-fleegler/

But their paper (available here) isn’t testing what they claim. It isn’t testing whether increased gun ownership causes crime rates to increase. The study is far too simplistic and doesn’t include even the basic control variables that are typically included in other crime studies.

*************

The controls that are being used in this paper can’t begin to account for the differences in crime rates. The regression estimates reported in Table 2 don’t tell what percent of the variation in crime rates are being explained by the variables used in these regressions, but I am willing to bet that it is less than 10 percent.

Yet, this paper in the American Journal of Preventive Medicine doesn’t account for either of these factors. It is essentially making a purely cross-sectional comparison across states. On account of that, if they had included Washington, DC in their estimates (with its high crime rates and low gun ownership), it would have dramatically altered their results.

It is easy to see how the results are reversed by just including these state fixed effects. The first estimate below corresponds to the first estimate reported in Monuteaux, Lee, Hemenway, Mannix, Fleegler’s paper. The first estimate uses regional fixed effects. The second includes state fixed effects. The gunBRFSS variable is their survey measure of gun ownership by state. In order to get at the nonlinear concern that they raise, I do want academics normally do and have both a linear and a squared version of that variable. You can see that including the state fixed effects causes their result to go from positive and insignificant to negative and significant. It seems clear that they broke the survey measurement into arbitrary fifths to help get the result that they wanted.

 

[2aguy]

And even more studies that show that concealed carry lowers the crime rate...

http://crimepreventionresearchcente...-Maryland-Law-Review-Lott-Concealed-Carry.pdf

Lott...list of papers...

Of course, the single paper that Shermer cites was mentioned and discussed at length in the review of the literature that Lott provided in More Guns, Less Crime (click on screen shots to make them larger). Unfortunately, Scientific American wasn’t willing to allow a link to this list of papers.



Do Right-to-carry laws reduce violent crime? - Crime Prevention Research Center


A 2012 survey of the literature is available here. Some of the research showing that concealed carry laws reduce violent crime is listed here.

Crime, Deterrence, and Right-to-Carry Concealed Handguns by John R. Lott, Jr. and David B. Mustard, Journal of Legal Studies, 1997

The Effect of Concealed Weapons Laws: An Extreme Bound Analysis by William Alan Bartley and Mark A Cohen, published in Economic Inquiry, April 1998 (Copy available here)

Criminal Deterrence, Geographic Spillovers, and Right-to-Carry Concealed Handguns by Stephen Bronars and John R. Lott, Jr., American Economic Review, May 1998

The Impact of Gun Laws on Police Deaths by David Mustard, published in the Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Privately Produced General Deterrence By BRUCE L. BENSON AND BRENT D. MAST, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Does the Right to Carry Concealed Handguns Deter Countable Crimes? Only a Count Analysis Can Say By FLORENZ PLASSMANN AND T. NICOLAUS TIDEMAN, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Testing for the Effects of Concealed Weapons Laws: Specification Errors and Robustness By CARLISLE E. MOODY, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Safe-Storage Gun Laws: Accidental Deaths, Suicides, and Crime By JOHN R. LOTT, JR., AND JOHN E. WHITLEY, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Right-to-Carry Concealed Weapon Laws and Homicide in Large U.S. Counties: The Effect on Weapon Types, Victim Characteristics, and Victim-Offender Relationships By DAVID E. OLSON AND MICHAEL D. MALTZ, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

The Impact of Banning Juvenile Gun Possession By Thomas B. Marvell, Journal of Law and Economics, October 2001

Measurement Error in County-Level UCR Data by John R. Lott, Jr. and John Whitley, published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology, June 2003, Volume 19, Issue 2, pp 185-198

Confirming More Guns, Less Crime by Florenz Plassmann and John Whitley, published in the Stanford Law Review, 2003

Using Placebo Laws to Test “More Guns, Less Crime” by Eric Helland and Alexander Tabarrok, published in Advances in Economic Analysis and Policy, 4 (1): Article 1, 2004

Multiple Victim Public Shootings, Bombings, and Right-to-Carry Concealed Handgun Laws: Contrasting Private and Public Law Enforcement By John R. Lott, Jr. and William Landes, published in The Bias Against Guns

More Readers of Gun Magazines, But Not More Crimes by Florenz Plassmann and John R. Lott, Jr.

“More Guns, Less Crime” by John R Lott, Jr. (University of Chicago Press, 2010, 3rd edition).

“The Debate on Shall-Issue Laws” by Carlisle e. Moody, Thomas B. Marvell, Paul R Zimmerman, and Fasil Alemante published in Review of Economics & Finance, 2014

“An examination of the effects of concealed weapons laws and assault weapons bans on state-level murder rates” by Mark Giusa published in Applied Economics Letters, Volume 21, Issue 4, 2014

“The Debate on Shall-Issue Laws” by Carlisle e. Moody and Thomas B. Marvell, published in Econ Journal Watch, volume 5, number 3, September 2008

“The Debate on Shall Issue Laws, Continued” by Carlisle e. Moody and Thomas B. Marvell, published in Econ Journal Watch, Volume 6, Number 2 May 2009

“Did John Lott Provide Bad Data to the NRC? A Note on Aneja, Donohue, and Zhang” by Carlisle e. Moody, John R Lott, Jr, and Thomas B. Marvell, published in Econ Journal Watch, Volume 10, Number 1, January 2013

More Guns, Less Crime: A Response to Ayres and Donohue’s 1999 book review in the American Law and Economics Review by John R. Lott, Jr.

Right-to-Carry Laws and Violent Crime Revisited: Clustering, Measurement Error, and State-by-State Break downs by John R. Lott, Jr.

Almost all are gun nut lott. He uses surveys that don't even exist.

Again if it were true we would have the lowest crime rates in the world. We are far from that.

And of course all the other studies that aren't Lott's work although he is the preeminent researcher in the field...wow, thinking the preeminent researcher in the field would have done a lot of research.....that really is crazy thinking brain.

The "More Guns, Less Crime" Concealed Carry Hypothesis Frequently Cited By Conservative Media Has Been Repeatedly Debunked. The idea that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime rates was popularized by economist John Lott, although Lott's research on the matter has been debunked repeatedly and Lott has faced numerous accusations of unethical research practices:

John Lott is, without exception, the most prolific and influential writer on the topic of gun violence and gun control. He has credentials that would make most academics envious--with various stints at Stanford, Rice, UCLA, Wharton, Cornell, the University of Chicago and Yale.

[...]

While his initial research was groundbreaking, further examination revealed numerous flaws. Today the "more guns, less crime" hypothesis has been thoroughly repudiated. On closer inspection his impressive credentials reveal an academic nomad, never able to secure a place in academia. His ethical transgressions range from accusations of fabricating an entire survey, to presenting faulty regressions, to creating elaborate online personas to defend his work and bash critics, to trying to revise his online history to deflect arguments. And this doesn't even begin to cover the whole host of false claims and statistics he has peddled repeatedly in articles and TV appearances.


Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

And of course david hemenway, the guy whose studies are biased and influenced by his connections to gun control groups pops up again…...

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime. According to a survey of authors of articles about firearms in peer-reviewed journals conducted by the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, 62 percent of respondents rejected the notion that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime:

New Harvard research debunks the NRA's favorite talking points

And of course hemenway, he hack is wrong again….

Correcting the record on David Hemenway's claim that academics support gun control - Crime Prevention Research Center

David Hemenway’s guest column last Sunday, “Scientists reach consensus on guns,” claimed a consensus on gun research based on a survey he conducted. But he conveniently fails to mention that another similar survey of peer-reviewed researchers was released two months ago.

That survey found the exact opposite. Gary Mauser, a professor who specializes in polling at Canada’s Simon Fraser University, conducted it for the Crime Prevention Research Center. Mauser surveyed 53 economists who published in the area over the last 15 years. Among the questions: an overwhelming number — 83 percent — noted guns are more likely to be used in self-defense than in crime. Further, 74 percent said concealed handgun laws reduce murder rates and 69 percent said guns in the home don’t cause more suicides. Also, 83 percent said gun-free zones attract criminals.

Hemenway fails to note that the people he surveyed only had to mention “firearms” in their research. They didn’t have to actually conduct empirical work on guns.

There were also problems in the recording of his responses. For instance, I was supposedly one of the researchers surveyed. Yet, my responses weren’t recorded. When I emailed Hemenway about this technical problem, my emails were ignored.


Gun control extremists have to lie…..that is the only way the can push their gun control arguments…

In the United States, as more Americans own and carry guns for self defense, the gun murder rate has gone down, not up….thus pointing out that hemenway and the other gun control activists are wrong, and gun accidental deaths have gone down, not up, again proving them wrong.

 

[2aguy]

American Journal Of Public Health Study: Correlation Exists Between Gun Ownership Rates And Gun Homicide Rates. A 2013 study that covered 30 years of data "found a 'robust correlation' between estimated levels of gun ownership and actual gun homicides at the state level, even when controlling for factors typically associated with homicides"

BU Researcher Finds Correlation Between Gun Ownership and Firearm Homicide | Public Relations







Harvard Injury Control Research Center: "In Homes, Cities, States And Regions In The US, Where There Are More Guns" There Are More Gun Homicides.

Homicide | Harvard Injury Control Research Center | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health



University Of Pennsylvania Firearm & Injury Center: Higher Gun Ownership Rates Linked To Higher Gun Death Rates On International Scale. Comparing high-income nations, the University of Pennsylvania Firearm & Injury Center found "The U.S. has the highest rates of both firearm homicide and private firearm ownership":

The correlation between firearm availability and rates of homicide is consistent across high income industrialized nations: where there are more firearms, there are higher rates of homicide overall. The U.S. has the highest rates of both firearm homicide and private firearm ownership. In 2001 an estimated 35% of U.S. households had a firearm


https://web.archive.org/web/2011121...u/ficap/resourcebook/pdf/monograph.pdf#page=6

Sorry, those studies have been shown to be biased and poorly executed.

I have posted more studies on how guns save lives and lower the crime rate…you should look into those.

lol

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime. According to a survey of authors of articles about firearms in peer-reviewed journals conducted by the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, 62 percent of respondents rejected the notion that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime:

New Harvard research debunks the NRA's favorite talking points


9% are on your side dummy? It's the anti's 2nds who are biased though? lol

CPRC at Fox News: Gun control advocates taking a page out of global warming advocates' handbook - Crime Prevention Research Center

So let’s look at the details. He polled authors who had published in the fields of “public health, public policy, sociology, or criminology.” Most notably, half of the authors picked were within Hemenway’s own field of public health and another third were sociologists/criminologists, followed by public policy and a few economists.

It dramatically over weighted those in public health. It didn’t matter whether the publications even contained any empirical work or were related to the survey questions.

 

[Dad2three]

Almost all are gun nut lott. He uses surveys that don't even exist.

Again if it were true we would have the lowest crime rates in the world. We are far from that.

And of course all the other studies that aren't Lott's work although he is the preeminent researcher in the field...wow, thinking the preeminent researcher in the field would have done a lot of research.....that really is crazy thinking brain.

The "More Guns, Less Crime" Concealed Carry Hypothesis Frequently Cited By Conservative Media Has Been Repeatedly Debunked. The idea that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime rates was popularized by economist John Lott, although Lott's research on the matter has been debunked repeatedly and Lott has faced numerous accusations of unethical research practices:

John Lott is, without exception, the most prolific and influential writer on the topic of gun violence and gun control. He has credentials that would make most academics envious--with various stints at Stanford, Rice, UCLA, Wharton, Cornell, the University of Chicago and Yale.

[...]

While his initial research was groundbreaking, further examination revealed numerous flaws. Today the "more guns, less crime" hypothesis has been thoroughly repudiated. On closer inspection his impressive credentials reveal an academic nomad, never able to secure a place in academia. His ethical transgressions range from accusations of fabricating an entire survey, to presenting faulty regressions, to creating elaborate online personas to defend his work and bash critics, to trying to revise his online history to deflect arguments. And this doesn't even begin to cover the whole host of false claims and statistics he has peddled repeatedly in articles and TV appearances.


Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

And of course david hemenway, the guy whose studies are biased and influenced by his connections to gun control groups pops up again…...

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime. According to a survey of authors of articles about firearms in peer-reviewed journals conducted by the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, 62 percent of respondents rejected the notion that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime:

New Harvard research debunks the NRA's favorite talking points

And of course hemenway, he hack is wrong again….

Correcting the record on David Hemenway's claim that academics support gun control - Crime Prevention Research Center

David Hemenway’s guest column last Sunday, “Scientists reach consensus on guns,” claimed a consensus on gun research based on a survey he conducted. But he conveniently fails to mention that another similar survey of peer-reviewed researchers was released two months ago.

That survey found the exact opposite. Gary Mauser, a professor who specializes in polling at Canada’s Simon Fraser University, conducted it for the Crime Prevention Research Center. Mauser surveyed 53 economists who published in the area over the last 15 years. Among the questions: an overwhelming number — 83 percent — noted guns are more likely to be used in self-defense than in crime. Further, 74 percent said concealed handgun laws reduce murder rates and 69 percent said guns in the home don’t cause more suicides. Also, 83 percent said gun-free zones attract criminals.

Hemenway fails to note that the people he surveyed only had to mention “firearms” in their research. They didn’t have to actually conduct empirical work on guns.

There were also problems in the recording of his responses. For instance, I was supposedly one of the researchers surveyed. Yet, my responses weren’t recorded. When I emailed Hemenway about this technical problem, my emails were ignored.


Gun control extremists have to lie…..that is the only way the can push their gun control arguments…

In the United States, as more Americans own and carry guns for self defense, the gun murder rate has gone down, not up….thus pointing out that hemenway and the other gun control activists are wrong, and gun accidental deaths have gone down, not up, again proving them wrong.

Cherry picking murders in a few years? lol

Gun Rhetoric vs. Gun Facts
We offer facts and context as a national gun-control debate intensifies.

While Lott’s work is often cited by gun rights advocates, his findings are strongly disputed by numerous academics. Most notably, in 2004 a committee of the National Research Council of the National Academies analyzed Lott’s research and took issue with his findings, concluding that “it is impossible to draw strong conclusions from the existing literature on the causal impact of these laws” (See Chapter 6).

National Research Council, 2004: The initial model specification, when extended to new data, does not show evidence that passage of right-to-carry laws reduces crime. The estimated effects are highly sensitive to seemingly minor changes in the model specification and control variables. No link between right-to-carry laws and changes in crime is apparent in the raw data, even in the initial sample; it is only once numerous covariates are included that the negative results in the early data emerge. While the trend models show a reduction in the crime growth rate following the adoption of right-to-carry laws, these trend reductions occur long after law adoption, casting serious doubt on the proposition that the trend models estimated in the literature reflect effects of the law change. Finally, some of the point estimates are imprecise. Thus, the committee concludes that with the current evidence it is not possible to determine that there is a causal link between the passage of right-to-carry laws and crime rates.


Gun Rhetoric vs. Gun Facts

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime.

 

[Dad2three]

Almost all are gun nut lott. He uses surveys that don't even exist.

Again if it were true we would have the lowest crime rates in the world. We are far from that.

And of course all the other studies that aren't Lott's work although he is the preeminent researcher in the field...wow, thinking the preeminent researcher in the field would have done a lot of research.....that really is crazy thinking brain.

The "More Guns, Less Crime" Concealed Carry Hypothesis Frequently Cited By Conservative Media Has Been Repeatedly Debunked. The idea that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime rates was popularized by economist John Lott, although Lott's research on the matter has been debunked repeatedly and Lott has faced numerous accusations of unethical research practices:

John Lott is, without exception, the most prolific and influential writer on the topic of gun violence and gun control. He has credentials that would make most academics envious--with various stints at Stanford, Rice, UCLA, Wharton, Cornell, the University of Chicago and Yale.

[...]

While his initial research was groundbreaking, further examination revealed numerous flaws. Today the "more guns, less crime" hypothesis has been thoroughly repudiated. On closer inspection his impressive credentials reveal an academic nomad, never able to secure a place in academia. His ethical transgressions range from accusations of fabricating an entire survey, to presenting faulty regressions, to creating elaborate online personas to defend his work and bash critics, to trying to revise his online history to deflect arguments. And this doesn't even begin to cover the whole host of false claims and statistics he has peddled repeatedly in articles and TV appearances.


Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

And of course david hemenway, the guy whose studies are biased and influenced by his connections to gun control groups pops up again…...

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime. According to a survey of authors of articles about firearms in peer-reviewed journals conducted by the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, 62 percent of respondents rejected the notion that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime:

New Harvard research debunks the NRA's favorite talking points

And of course hemenway, he hack is wrong again….

Correcting the record on David Hemenway's claim that academics support gun control - Crime Prevention Research Center

David Hemenway’s guest column last Sunday, “Scientists reach consensus on guns,” claimed a consensus on gun research based on a survey he conducted. But he conveniently fails to mention that another similar survey of peer-reviewed researchers was released two months ago.

That survey found the exact opposite. Gary Mauser, a professor who specializes in polling at Canada’s Simon Fraser University, conducted it for the Crime Prevention Research Center. Mauser surveyed 53 economists who published in the area over the last 15 years. Among the questions: an overwhelming number — 83 percent — noted guns are more likely to be used in self-defense than in crime. Further, 74 percent said concealed handgun laws reduce murder rates and 69 percent said guns in the home don’t cause more suicides. Also, 83 percent said gun-free zones attract criminals.

Hemenway fails to note that the people he surveyed only had to mention “firearms” in their research. They didn’t have to actually conduct empirical work on guns.

There were also problems in the recording of his responses. For instance, I was supposedly one of the researchers surveyed. Yet, my responses weren’t recorded. When I emailed Hemenway about this technical problem, my emails were ignored.


Gun control extremists have to lie…..that is the only way the can push their gun control arguments…

In the United States, as more Americans own and carry guns for self defense, the gun murder rate has gone down, not up….thus pointing out that hemenway and the other gun control activists are wrong, and gun accidental deaths have gone down, not up, again proving them wrong.

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime. According to a survey of authors of articles about firearms in peer-reviewed journals conducted by the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, 62 percent of respondents rejected the notion that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime:

New Harvard research debunks the NRA's favorite talking points

Almost all are gun nut lott. He uses surveys that don't even exist.

Again if it were true we would have the lowest crime rates in the world. We are far from that.

And of course all the other studies that aren't Lott's work although he is the preeminent researcher in the field...wow, thinking the preeminent researcher in the field would have done a lot of research.....that really is crazy thinking brain.

The "More Guns, Less Crime" Concealed Carry Hypothesis Frequently Cited By Conservative Media Has Been Repeatedly Debunked. The idea that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime rates was popularized by economist John Lott, although Lott's research on the matter has been debunked repeatedly and Lott has faced numerous accusations of unethical research practices:

John Lott is, without exception, the most prolific and influential writer on the topic of gun violence and gun control. He has credentials that would make most academics envious--with various stints at Stanford, Rice, UCLA, Wharton, Cornell, the University of Chicago and Yale.

[...]

While his initial research was groundbreaking, further examination revealed numerous flaws. Today the "more guns, less crime" hypothesis has been thoroughly repudiated. On closer inspection his impressive credentials reveal an academic nomad, never able to secure a place in academia. His ethical transgressions range from accusations of fabricating an entire survey, to presenting faulty regressions, to creating elaborate online personas to defend his work and bash critics, to trying to revise his online history to deflect arguments. And this doesn't even begin to cover the whole host of false claims and statistics he has peddled repeatedly in articles and TV appearances.


Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

And of course david hemenway, the guy whose studies are biased and influenced by his connections to gun control groups pops up again…...

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime. According to a survey of authors of articles about firearms in peer-reviewed journals conducted by the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, 62 percent of respondents rejected the notion that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime:

New Harvard research debunks the NRA's favorite talking points

And of course hemenway, he hack is wrong again….

Correcting the record on David Hemenway's claim that academics support gun control - Crime Prevention Research Center

David Hemenway’s guest column last Sunday, “Scientists reach consensus on guns,” claimed a consensus on gun research based on a survey he conducted. But he conveniently fails to mention that another similar survey of peer-reviewed researchers was released two months ago.

That survey found the exact opposite. Gary Mauser, a professor who specializes in polling at Canada’s Simon Fraser University, conducted it for the Crime Prevention Research Center. Mauser surveyed 53 economists who published in the area over the last 15 years. Among the questions: an overwhelming number — 83 percent — noted guns are more likely to be used in self-defense than in crime. Further, 74 percent said concealed handgun laws reduce murder rates and 69 percent said guns in the home don’t cause more suicides. Also, 83 percent said gun-free zones attract criminals.

Hemenway fails to note that the people he surveyed only had to mention “firearms” in their research. They didn’t have to actually conduct empirical work on guns.

There were also problems in the recording of his responses. For instance, I was supposedly one of the researchers surveyed. Yet, my responses weren’t recorded. When I emailed Hemenway about this technical problem, my emails were ignored.


Gun control extremists have to lie…..that is the only way the can push their gun control arguments…

In the United States, as more Americans own and carry guns for self defense, the gun murder rate has gone down, not up….thus pointing out that hemenway and the other gun control activists are wrong, and gun accidental deaths have gone down, not up, again proving them wrong.

What Experts Say: Strong Gun Laws Help Reduce Homicide. The Harvard survey found that 71 percent of experts agreed that strong gun laws help reduce homicide rates:

What The Evidence Shows: Strong Gun Laws Are Linked to Fewer Firearm Homicides. An expansive and growing body of evidence indicates that stricter gun laws are strongly associated with lower rates of gun violence, including homicides.

In an extensive 2013 report called “America Under The Gun,” researchers ranked each state in the country (from 1-50) on 10 indices of gun violence, and then ran a statistical regression comparing these rankings with the strength of gun laws. The results showed that there was a strong, statistically significant correlation between weak gun laws and higher gun violence levels, leading the researchers to conclude that states with looser gun laws contribute the highest share of firearm injuries and deaths to the national gun violence toll:

While many factors contribute to the rates of gun violence in any state, our research clearly demonstrates a significant correlation between the strength of a state’s gun laws and the prevalence of gun violence in the state. Across the key indicators of gun violence that we analyzed, the 10 states with the weakest gun laws collectively have a level of gun violence that is more than twice as high—104 percent higher—than the 10 states with the strongest gun laws.

Several other studies have established similar links between gun deaths and loose gun laws. And not surprisingly, gun death rates tend to be lower in states with restrictions such as assault-weapons bans or safe-storage requirements.

Even stronger evidence was presented in a 2013 study in The American Journal of Public Health that looked at 30 years of homicide data from all 50 states and found that for every one percent increase in a state’s gun ownership rate, there was a nearly one percent increase in its firearm homicide rate. The researchers concluded that gun ownership is a “significant predictor” of firearm homicide rates, noting that states with higher rates of gun ownership have “disproportionately large numbers of deaths from firearm-related homicides”.


New Harvard Research Debunks Gun Lobby's Favorite Talking Points


lmaorog

 

[2aguy]

And of course all the other studies that aren't Lott's work although he is the preeminent researcher in the field...wow, thinking the preeminent researcher in the field would have done a lot of research.....that really is crazy thinking brain.

The "More Guns, Less Crime" Concealed Carry Hypothesis Frequently Cited By Conservative Media Has Been Repeatedly Debunked. The idea that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime rates was popularized by economist John Lott, although Lott's research on the matter has been debunked repeatedly and Lott has faced numerous accusations of unethical research practices:

John Lott is, without exception, the most prolific and influential writer on the topic of gun violence and gun control. He has credentials that would make most academics envious--with various stints at Stanford, Rice, UCLA, Wharton, Cornell, the University of Chicago and Yale.

[...]

While his initial research was groundbreaking, further examination revealed numerous flaws. Today the "more guns, less crime" hypothesis has been thoroughly repudiated. On closer inspection his impressive credentials reveal an academic nomad, never able to secure a place in academia. His ethical transgressions range from accusations of fabricating an entire survey, to presenting faulty regressions, to creating elaborate online personas to defend his work and bash critics, to trying to revise his online history to deflect arguments. And this doesn't even begin to cover the whole host of false claims and statistics he has peddled repeatedly in articles and TV appearances.


Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

And of course david hemenway, the guy whose studies are biased and influenced by his connections to gun control groups pops up again…...

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime. According to a survey of authors of articles about firearms in peer-reviewed journals conducted by the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, 62 percent of respondents rejected the notion that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime:

New Harvard research debunks the NRA's favorite talking points

And of course hemenway, he hack is wrong again….

Correcting the record on David Hemenway's claim that academics support gun control - Crime Prevention Research Center

David Hemenway’s guest column last Sunday, “Scientists reach consensus on guns,” claimed a consensus on gun research based on a survey he conducted. But he conveniently fails to mention that another similar survey of peer-reviewed researchers was released two months ago.

That survey found the exact opposite. Gary Mauser, a professor who specializes in polling at Canada’s Simon Fraser University, conducted it for the Crime Prevention Research Center. Mauser surveyed 53 economists who published in the area over the last 15 years. Among the questions: an overwhelming number — 83 percent — noted guns are more likely to be used in self-defense than in crime. Further, 74 percent said concealed handgun laws reduce murder rates and 69 percent said guns in the home don’t cause more suicides. Also, 83 percent said gun-free zones attract criminals.

Hemenway fails to note that the people he surveyed only had to mention “firearms” in their research. They didn’t have to actually conduct empirical work on guns.

There were also problems in the recording of his responses. For instance, I was supposedly one of the researchers surveyed. Yet, my responses weren’t recorded. When I emailed Hemenway about this technical problem, my emails were ignored.


Gun control extremists have to lie…..that is the only way the can push their gun control arguments…

In the United States, as more Americans own and carry guns for self defense, the gun murder rate has gone down, not up….thus pointing out that hemenway and the other gun control activists are wrong, and gun accidental deaths have gone down, not up, again proving them wrong.

Cherry picking murders in a few years? lol

Gun Rhetoric vs. Gun Facts
We offer facts and context as a national gun-control debate intensifies.

While Lott’s work is often cited by gun rights advocates, his findings are strongly disputed by numerous academics. Most notably, in 2004 a committee of the National Research Council of the National Academies analyzed Lott’s research and took issue with his findings, concluding that “it is impossible to draw strong conclusions from the existing literature on the causal impact of these laws” (See Chapter 6).

National Research Council, 2004: The initial model specification, when extended to new data, does not show evidence that passage of right-to-carry laws reduces crime. The estimated effects are highly sensitive to seemingly minor changes in the model specification and control variables. No link between right-to-carry laws and changes in crime is apparent in the raw data, even in the initial sample; it is only once numerous covariates are included that the negative results in the early data emerge. While the trend models show a reduction in the crime growth rate following the adoption of right-to-carry laws, these trend reductions occur long after law adoption, casting serious doubt on the proposition that the trend models estimated in the literature reflect effects of the law change. Finally, some of the point estimates are imprecise. Thus, the committee concludes that with the current evidence it is not possible to determine that there is a causal link between the passage of right-to-carry laws and crime rates.


Gun Rhetoric vs. Gun Facts

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime.

Yes…..and you forgot the study by the bill clinton's justice dept. that shows that guns are used to stop violent crime 1.5 million times a year. The study was created by anti gun researchers, using their methods and executed by them they found 1.5 million defensive uses….and please….link that image…..so we know which anti gun extremist group you got it from…..

 

[Dad2three]

The "More Guns, Less Crime" Concealed Carry Hypothesis Frequently Cited By Conservative Media Has Been Repeatedly Debunked. The idea that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime rates was popularized by economist John Lott, although Lott's research on the matter has been debunked repeatedly and Lott has faced numerous accusations of unethical research practices:

John Lott is, without exception, the most prolific and influential writer on the topic of gun violence and gun control. He has credentials that would make most academics envious--with various stints at Stanford, Rice, UCLA, Wharton, Cornell, the University of Chicago and Yale.

[...]

While his initial research was groundbreaking, further examination revealed numerous flaws. Today the "more guns, less crime" hypothesis has been thoroughly repudiated. On closer inspection his impressive credentials reveal an academic nomad, never able to secure a place in academia. His ethical transgressions range from accusations of fabricating an entire survey, to presenting faulty regressions, to creating elaborate online personas to defend his work and bash critics, to trying to revise his online history to deflect arguments. And this doesn't even begin to cover the whole host of false claims and statistics he has peddled repeatedly in articles and TV appearances.


Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

And of course david hemenway, the guy whose studies are biased and influenced by his connections to gun control groups pops up again…...

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime. According to a survey of authors of articles about firearms in peer-reviewed journals conducted by the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, 62 percent of respondents rejected the notion that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime:

New Harvard research debunks the NRA's favorite talking points

And of course hemenway, he hack is wrong again….

Correcting the record on David Hemenway's claim that academics support gun control - Crime Prevention Research Center

David Hemenway’s guest column last Sunday, “Scientists reach consensus on guns,” claimed a consensus on gun research based on a survey he conducted. But he conveniently fails to mention that another similar survey of peer-reviewed researchers was released two months ago.

That survey found the exact opposite. Gary Mauser, a professor who specializes in polling at Canada’s Simon Fraser University, conducted it for the Crime Prevention Research Center. Mauser surveyed 53 economists who published in the area over the last 15 years. Among the questions: an overwhelming number — 83 percent — noted guns are more likely to be used in self-defense than in crime. Further, 74 percent said concealed handgun laws reduce murder rates and 69 percent said guns in the home don’t cause more suicides. Also, 83 percent said gun-free zones attract criminals.

Hemenway fails to note that the people he surveyed only had to mention “firearms” in their research. They didn’t have to actually conduct empirical work on guns.

There were also problems in the recording of his responses. For instance, I was supposedly one of the researchers surveyed. Yet, my responses weren’t recorded. When I emailed Hemenway about this technical problem, my emails were ignored.


Gun control extremists have to lie…..that is the only way the can push their gun control arguments…

In the United States, as more Americans own and carry guns for self defense, the gun murder rate has gone down, not up….thus pointing out that hemenway and the other gun control activists are wrong, and gun accidental deaths have gone down, not up, again proving them wrong.

Cherry picking murders in a few years? lol

Gun Rhetoric vs. Gun Facts
We offer facts and context as a national gun-control debate intensifies.

While Lott’s work is often cited by gun rights advocates, his findings are strongly disputed by numerous academics. Most notably, in 2004 a committee of the National Research Council of the National Academies analyzed Lott’s research and took issue with his findings, concluding that “it is impossible to draw strong conclusions from the existing literature on the causal impact of these laws” (See Chapter 6).

National Research Council, 2004: The initial model specification, when extended to new data, does not show evidence that passage of right-to-carry laws reduces crime. The estimated effects are highly sensitive to seemingly minor changes in the model specification and control variables. No link between right-to-carry laws and changes in crime is apparent in the raw data, even in the initial sample; it is only once numerous covariates are included that the negative results in the early data emerge. While the trend models show a reduction in the crime growth rate following the adoption of right-to-carry laws, these trend reductions occur long after law adoption, casting serious doubt on the proposition that the trend models estimated in the literature reflect effects of the law change. Finally, some of the point estimates are imprecise. Thus, the committee concludes that with the current evidence it is not possible to determine that there is a causal link between the passage of right-to-carry laws and crime rates.


Gun Rhetoric vs. Gun Facts

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime.

Yes…..and you forgot the study by the bill clinton's justice dept. that shows that guns are used to stop violent crime 1.5 million times a year. The study was created by anti gun researchers, using their methods and executed by them they found 1.5 million defensive uses….and please….link that image…..so we know which anti gun extremist group you got it from…..

What The Evidence Shows: Concealed Carry Laws Are Linked to Higher Violent Crime Rates. Research indicates that more permissive concealed carry laws are linked with higher rates of violent crime, not lower rates, and that many people with concealed carry permits are not “good guys with guns.”

A study released by Stanford last year took a look at the data and found clear links between allowing concealed carry without a permit and some types of violence. It was difficult to tie right-to-carry laws to violent crime, but researchers did find an estimated 8 percent increase in aggravated assault cases — and this is likely an underestimate, according to the researchers. “The totality of the evidence based on educated judgments about the best statistical models suggests that right-to-carry laws are associated with substantially higher rates of aggravated assault, rape, robbery and murder,” said the researchers, who described the analysis of such laws as a “vexing task.”


Moreover, research has demonstrated that those who obtain concealed carry permits can pose a threat to public safety — that they’re not always the “good guys” the NRA makes them out to be: A Violence Policy Center study found that Texas concealed handgun license holders were arrested for weapon-related offenses at a rate 81% higher than the general population of Texas aged 21 and older (offenses included 279 assaults, 671 unlawfully carrying a weapon, and 172 deadly conduct/discharge of a firearm). Between January 1, 1996 and August 31, 2001, Texas concealed handgun license holders were arrested for 5,314 crimes—including murder, rape, kidnapping and theft. And a 2007 investigation by the Florida Sun-Sentinel found that the state’s permit system had granted concealed carry permits to more than 1,400 individuals who pled guilty or no contest to a felony, 216 individuals with outstanding warrants, 128 individuals with active domestic violence restraining orders, and six registered sex offenders.




New Harvard Research Debunks Gun Lobby's Favorite Talking Points

 

[Dad2three]

The "More Guns, Less Crime" Concealed Carry Hypothesis Frequently Cited By Conservative Media Has Been Repeatedly Debunked. The idea that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime rates was popularized by economist John Lott, although Lott's research on the matter has been debunked repeatedly and Lott has faced numerous accusations of unethical research practices:

John Lott is, without exception, the most prolific and influential writer on the topic of gun violence and gun control. He has credentials that would make most academics envious--with various stints at Stanford, Rice, UCLA, Wharton, Cornell, the University of Chicago and Yale.

[...]

While his initial research was groundbreaking, further examination revealed numerous flaws. Today the "more guns, less crime" hypothesis has been thoroughly repudiated. On closer inspection his impressive credentials reveal an academic nomad, never able to secure a place in academia. His ethical transgressions range from accusations of fabricating an entire survey, to presenting faulty regressions, to creating elaborate online personas to defend his work and bash critics, to trying to revise his online history to deflect arguments. And this doesn't even begin to cover the whole host of false claims and statistics he has peddled repeatedly in articles and TV appearances.


Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

And of course david hemenway, the guy whose studies are biased and influenced by his connections to gun control groups pops up again…...

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime. According to a survey of authors of articles about firearms in peer-reviewed journals conducted by the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, 62 percent of respondents rejected the notion that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime:

New Harvard research debunks the NRA's favorite talking points

And of course hemenway, he hack is wrong again….

Correcting the record on David Hemenway's claim that academics support gun control - Crime Prevention Research Center

David Hemenway’s guest column last Sunday, “Scientists reach consensus on guns,” claimed a consensus on gun research based on a survey he conducted. But he conveniently fails to mention that another similar survey of peer-reviewed researchers was released two months ago.

That survey found the exact opposite. Gary Mauser, a professor who specializes in polling at Canada’s Simon Fraser University, conducted it for the Crime Prevention Research Center. Mauser surveyed 53 economists who published in the area over the last 15 years. Among the questions: an overwhelming number — 83 percent — noted guns are more likely to be used in self-defense than in crime. Further, 74 percent said concealed handgun laws reduce murder rates and 69 percent said guns in the home don’t cause more suicides. Also, 83 percent said gun-free zones attract criminals.

Hemenway fails to note that the people he surveyed only had to mention “firearms” in their research. They didn’t have to actually conduct empirical work on guns.

There were also problems in the recording of his responses. For instance, I was supposedly one of the researchers surveyed. Yet, my responses weren’t recorded. When I emailed Hemenway about this technical problem, my emails were ignored.


Gun control extremists have to lie…..that is the only way the can push their gun control arguments…

In the United States, as more Americans own and carry guns for self defense, the gun murder rate has gone down, not up….thus pointing out that hemenway and the other gun control activists are wrong, and gun accidental deaths have gone down, not up, again proving them wrong.

Cherry picking murders in a few years? lol

Gun Rhetoric vs. Gun Facts
We offer facts and context as a national gun-control debate intensifies.

While Lott’s work is often cited by gun rights advocates, his findings are strongly disputed by numerous academics. Most notably, in 2004 a committee of the National Research Council of the National Academies analyzed Lott’s research and took issue with his findings, concluding that “it is impossible to draw strong conclusions from the existing literature on the causal impact of these laws” (See Chapter 6).

National Research Council, 2004: The initial model specification, when extended to new data, does not show evidence that passage of right-to-carry laws reduces crime. The estimated effects are highly sensitive to seemingly minor changes in the model specification and control variables. No link between right-to-carry laws and changes in crime is apparent in the raw data, even in the initial sample; it is only once numerous covariates are included that the negative results in the early data emerge. While the trend models show a reduction in the crime growth rate following the adoption of right-to-carry laws, these trend reductions occur long after law adoption, casting serious doubt on the proposition that the trend models estimated in the literature reflect effects of the law change. Finally, some of the point estimates are imprecise. Thus, the committee concludes that with the current evidence it is not possible to determine that there is a causal link between the passage of right-to-carry laws and crime rates.


Gun Rhetoric vs. Gun Facts

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime.

Yes…..and you forgot the study by the bill clinton's justice dept. that shows that guns are used to stop violent crime 1.5 million times a year. The study was created by anti gun researchers, using their methods and executed by them they found 1.5 million defensive uses….and please….link that image…..so we know which anti gun extremist group you got it from…..

3. Are Guns Used More Often To Commit Crimes Or In Self-Defense?
The Pro-Gun Talking Point: Guns Are Mostly Used As Tool For Self-Defense. Right-wing media frequently promote the myth that guns are primarily used for self-defense, despite guns rarely being used for that purpose.

The myth usually goes something like this: Guns are used defensively “over 2 million times every year—five times more frequently than the 430,000 times guns were used to commit crimes,” as the Heartland Institute, a right-wing think tank, claimed in anti-gun-control report. Or, as Gun Owners of America claims, “firearms are used more than 80 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives.” Former Republican Sen. Rick Santorum has also perpetuated the myth numerous times, claiming: “In fact, there are millions of lives that are saved in America every year, or millions of instances like that where gun owners have prevented crimes and stopped things from happening because of having guns at the scene.” Meanwhile, Fox News frequently claims that guns could “deter more crimes than they cause” while NRA News features daily segments on The Sportsman Channel and their SiriusXM radio program promoting the myth.

What Experts Say: Guns Are Not Used In Self-Defense More Often Than They Are Used In Crimes. Seventy-three percent of experts disagreed with the claim that guns are used “in self-defense far more often than they are used in crime”:

What The Evidence Shows: Guns Are Used For Harm Far More Than For Self-Defense.


New Harvard Research Debunks Gun Lobby's Favorite Talking Points

 

[2aguy]

And here are actual studies on how often guns are used to stop violent crime and save lives….

I just averaged the studies......which were conducted by different researchers, from both private and public researchers, over a period of 40 years looking specifically at guns and self defense....the name of the researcher is first, then the year then the number of times they determined guns were used for self defense......notice how many of them there are and how many of them were done by gun grabbers like the clinton Justice Dept. and the obama CDC

And these aren't all of the studies either...there are more...and they support the ones below.....

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....
GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, military)
DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, military)
L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, military)
Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

--------------------


Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops, military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."
(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


-------------------------------------------

Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..
*****************************************
If you take the studies from that Kleck cites in his paper, 16 of them....and you only average the ones that exclude military and police shootings..the average becomes 2 million...I use those studies because I have the details on them...and they are still 10 studies (including Kleck's)....

 

[Brain357]

The "More Guns, Less Crime" Concealed Carry Hypothesis Frequently Cited By Conservative Media Has Been Repeatedly Debunked. The idea that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime rates was popularized by economist John Lott, although Lott's research on the matter has been debunked repeatedly and Lott has faced numerous accusations of unethical research practices:

John Lott is, without exception, the most prolific and influential writer on the topic of gun violence and gun control. He has credentials that would make most academics envious--with various stints at Stanford, Rice, UCLA, Wharton, Cornell, the University of Chicago and Yale.

[...]

While his initial research was groundbreaking, further examination revealed numerous flaws. Today the "more guns, less crime" hypothesis has been thoroughly repudiated. On closer inspection his impressive credentials reveal an academic nomad, never able to secure a place in academia. His ethical transgressions range from accusations of fabricating an entire survey, to presenting faulty regressions, to creating elaborate online personas to defend his work and bash critics, to trying to revise his online history to deflect arguments. And this doesn't even begin to cover the whole host of false claims and statistics he has peddled repeatedly in articles and TV appearances.


Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

And of course david hemenway, the guy whose studies are biased and influenced by his connections to gun control groups pops up again…...

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime. According to a survey of authors of articles about firearms in peer-reviewed journals conducted by the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, 62 percent of respondents rejected the notion that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime:

New Harvard research debunks the NRA's favorite talking points

And of course hemenway, he hack is wrong again….

Correcting the record on David Hemenway's claim that academics support gun control - Crime Prevention Research Center

David Hemenway’s guest column last Sunday, “Scientists reach consensus on guns,” claimed a consensus on gun research based on a survey he conducted. But he conveniently fails to mention that another similar survey of peer-reviewed researchers was released two months ago.

That survey found the exact opposite. Gary Mauser, a professor who specializes in polling at Canada’s Simon Fraser University, conducted it for the Crime Prevention Research Center. Mauser surveyed 53 economists who published in the area over the last 15 years. Among the questions: an overwhelming number — 83 percent — noted guns are more likely to be used in self-defense than in crime. Further, 74 percent said concealed handgun laws reduce murder rates and 69 percent said guns in the home don’t cause more suicides. Also, 83 percent said gun-free zones attract criminals.

Hemenway fails to note that the people he surveyed only had to mention “firearms” in their research. They didn’t have to actually conduct empirical work on guns.

There were also problems in the recording of his responses. For instance, I was supposedly one of the researchers surveyed. Yet, my responses weren’t recorded. When I emailed Hemenway about this technical problem, my emails were ignored.


Gun control extremists have to lie…..that is the only way the can push their gun control arguments…

In the United States, as more Americans own and carry guns for self defense, the gun murder rate has gone down, not up….thus pointing out that hemenway and the other gun control activists are wrong, and gun accidental deaths have gone down, not up, again proving them wrong.

Cherry picking murders in a few years? lol

Gun Rhetoric vs. Gun Facts
We offer facts and context as a national gun-control debate intensifies.

While Lott’s work is often cited by gun rights advocates, his findings are strongly disputed by numerous academics. Most notably, in 2004 a committee of the National Research Council of the National Academies analyzed Lott’s research and took issue with his findings, concluding that “it is impossible to draw strong conclusions from the existing literature on the causal impact of these laws” (See Chapter 6).

National Research Council, 2004: The initial model specification, when extended to new data, does not show evidence that passage of right-to-carry laws reduces crime. The estimated effects are highly sensitive to seemingly minor changes in the model specification and control variables. No link between right-to-carry laws and changes in crime is apparent in the raw data, even in the initial sample; it is only once numerous covariates are included that the negative results in the early data emerge. While the trend models show a reduction in the crime growth rate following the adoption of right-to-carry laws, these trend reductions occur long after law adoption, casting serious doubt on the proposition that the trend models estimated in the literature reflect effects of the law change. Finally, some of the point estimates are imprecise. Thus, the committee concludes that with the current evidence it is not possible to determine that there is a causal link between the passage of right-to-carry laws and crime rates.


Gun Rhetoric vs. Gun Facts

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime.

Yes…..and you forgot the study by the bill clinton's justice dept. that shows that guns are used to stop violent crime 1.5 million times a year. The study was created by anti gun researchers, using their methods and executed by them they found 1.5 million defensive uses….and please….link that image…..so we know which anti gun extremist group you got it from…..

Based on today's crime rates that would be more like a million...

 

[2aguy]

And of course david hemenway, the guy whose studies are biased and influenced by his connections to gun control groups pops up again…...

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime. According to a survey of authors of articles about firearms in peer-reviewed journals conducted by the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, 62 percent of respondents rejected the notion that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime:

New Harvard research debunks the NRA's favorite talking points

And of course hemenway, he hack is wrong again….

Correcting the record on David Hemenway's claim that academics support gun control - Crime Prevention Research Center

David Hemenway’s guest column last Sunday, “Scientists reach consensus on guns,” claimed a consensus on gun research based on a survey he conducted. But he conveniently fails to mention that another similar survey of peer-reviewed researchers was released two months ago.

That survey found the exact opposite. Gary Mauser, a professor who specializes in polling at Canada’s Simon Fraser University, conducted it for the Crime Prevention Research Center. Mauser surveyed 53 economists who published in the area over the last 15 years. Among the questions: an overwhelming number — 83 percent — noted guns are more likely to be used in self-defense than in crime. Further, 74 percent said concealed handgun laws reduce murder rates and 69 percent said guns in the home don’t cause more suicides. Also, 83 percent said gun-free zones attract criminals.

Hemenway fails to note that the people he surveyed only had to mention “firearms” in their research. They didn’t have to actually conduct empirical work on guns.

There were also problems in the recording of his responses. For instance, I was supposedly one of the researchers surveyed. Yet, my responses weren’t recorded. When I emailed Hemenway about this technical problem, my emails were ignored.


Gun control extremists have to lie…..that is the only way the can push their gun control arguments…

In the United States, as more Americans own and carry guns for self defense, the gun murder rate has gone down, not up….thus pointing out that hemenway and the other gun control activists are wrong, and gun accidental deaths have gone down, not up, again proving them wrong.

Cherry picking murders in a few years? lol

Gun Rhetoric vs. Gun Facts
We offer facts and context as a national gun-control debate intensifies.

While Lott’s work is often cited by gun rights advocates, his findings are strongly disputed by numerous academics. Most notably, in 2004 a committee of the National Research Council of the National Academies analyzed Lott’s research and took issue with his findings, concluding that “it is impossible to draw strong conclusions from the existing literature on the causal impact of these laws” (See Chapter 6).

National Research Council, 2004: The initial model specification, when extended to new data, does not show evidence that passage of right-to-carry laws reduces crime. The estimated effects are highly sensitive to seemingly minor changes in the model specification and control variables. No link between right-to-carry laws and changes in crime is apparent in the raw data, even in the initial sample; it is only once numerous covariates are included that the negative results in the early data emerge. While the trend models show a reduction in the crime growth rate following the adoption of right-to-carry laws, these trend reductions occur long after law adoption, casting serious doubt on the proposition that the trend models estimated in the literature reflect effects of the law change. Finally, some of the point estimates are imprecise. Thus, the committee concludes that with the current evidence it is not possible to determine that there is a causal link between the passage of right-to-carry laws and crime rates.


Gun Rhetoric vs. Gun Facts

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime.

Yes…..and you forgot the study by the bill clinton's justice dept. that shows that guns are used to stop violent crime 1.5 million times a year. The study was created by anti gun researchers, using their methods and executed by them they found 1.5 million defensive uses….and please….link that image…..so we know which anti gun extremist group you got it from…..

3. Are Guns Used More Often To Commit Crimes Or In Self-Defense?
The Pro-Gun Talking Point: Guns Are Mostly Used As Tool For Self-Defense. Right-wing media frequently promote the myth that guns are primarily used for self-defense, despite guns rarely being used for that purpose.

The myth usually goes something like this: Guns are used defensively “over 2 million times every year—five times more frequently than the 430,000 times guns were used to commit crimes,” as the Heartland Institute, a right-wing think tank, claimed in anti-gun-control report. Or, as Gun Owners of America claims, “firearms are used more than 80 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives.” Former Republican Sen. Rick Santorum has also perpetuated the myth numerous times, claiming: “In fact, there are millions of lives that are saved in America every year, or millions of instances like that where gun owners have prevented crimes and stopped things from happening because of having guns at the scene.” Meanwhile, Fox News frequently claims that guns could “deter more crimes than they cause” while NRA News features daily segments on The Sportsman Channel and their SiriusXM radio program promoting the myth.

What Experts Say: Guns Are Not Used In Self-Defense More Often Than They Are Used In Crimes. Seventy-three percent of experts disagreed with the claim that guns are used “in self-defense far more often than they are used in crime”:

What The Evidence Shows: Guns Are Used For Harm Far More Than For Self-Defense.


New Harvard Research Debunks Gun Lobby's Favorite Talking Points

You can make your lies as big as you want….they are still lies…..

 

[2aguy]

And of course all the other studies that aren't Lott's work although he is the preeminent researcher in the field...wow, thinking the preeminent researcher in the field would have done a lot of research.....that really is crazy thinking brain.

The "More Guns, Less Crime" Concealed Carry Hypothesis Frequently Cited By Conservative Media Has Been Repeatedly Debunked. The idea that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime rates was popularized by economist John Lott, although Lott's research on the matter has been debunked repeatedly and Lott has faced numerous accusations of unethical research practices:

John Lott is, without exception, the most prolific and influential writer on the topic of gun violence and gun control. He has credentials that would make most academics envious--with various stints at Stanford, Rice, UCLA, Wharton, Cornell, the University of Chicago and Yale.

[...]

While his initial research was groundbreaking, further examination revealed numerous flaws. Today the "more guns, less crime" hypothesis has been thoroughly repudiated. On closer inspection his impressive credentials reveal an academic nomad, never able to secure a place in academia. His ethical transgressions range from accusations of fabricating an entire survey, to presenting faulty regressions, to creating elaborate online personas to defend his work and bash critics, to trying to revise his online history to deflect arguments. And this doesn't even begin to cover the whole host of false claims and statistics he has peddled repeatedly in articles and TV appearances.


Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

And of course david hemenway, the guy whose studies are biased and influenced by his connections to gun control groups pops up again…...

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime. According to a survey of authors of articles about firearms in peer-reviewed journals conducted by the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, 62 percent of respondents rejected the notion that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime:

New Harvard research debunks the NRA's favorite talking points

And of course hemenway, he hack is wrong again….

Correcting the record on David Hemenway's claim that academics support gun control - Crime Prevention Research Center

David Hemenway’s guest column last Sunday, “Scientists reach consensus on guns,” claimed a consensus on gun research based on a survey he conducted. But he conveniently fails to mention that another similar survey of peer-reviewed researchers was released two months ago.

That survey found the exact opposite. Gary Mauser, a professor who specializes in polling at Canada’s Simon Fraser University, conducted it for the Crime Prevention Research Center. Mauser surveyed 53 economists who published in the area over the last 15 years. Among the questions: an overwhelming number — 83 percent — noted guns are more likely to be used in self-defense than in crime. Further, 74 percent said concealed handgun laws reduce murder rates and 69 percent said guns in the home don’t cause more suicides. Also, 83 percent said gun-free zones attract criminals.

Hemenway fails to note that the people he surveyed only had to mention “firearms” in their research. They didn’t have to actually conduct empirical work on guns.

There were also problems in the recording of his responses. For instance, I was supposedly one of the researchers surveyed. Yet, my responses weren’t recorded. When I emailed Hemenway about this technical problem, my emails were ignored.


Gun control extremists have to lie…..that is the only way the can push their gun control arguments…

In the United States, as more Americans own and carry guns for self defense, the gun murder rate has gone down, not up….thus pointing out that hemenway and the other gun control activists are wrong, and gun accidental deaths have gone down, not up, again proving them wrong.

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime. According to a survey of authors of articles about firearms in peer-reviewed journals conducted by the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, 62 percent of respondents rejected the notion that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime:

New Harvard research debunks the NRA's favorite talking points

And of course all the other studies that aren't Lott's work although he is the preeminent researcher in the field...wow, thinking the preeminent researcher in the field would have done a lot of research.....that really is crazy thinking brain.

The "More Guns, Less Crime" Concealed Carry Hypothesis Frequently Cited By Conservative Media Has Been Repeatedly Debunked. The idea that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime rates was popularized by economist John Lott, although Lott's research on the matter has been debunked repeatedly and Lott has faced numerous accusations of unethical research practices:

John Lott is, without exception, the most prolific and influential writer on the topic of gun violence and gun control. He has credentials that would make most academics envious--with various stints at Stanford, Rice, UCLA, Wharton, Cornell, the University of Chicago and Yale.

[...]

While his initial research was groundbreaking, further examination revealed numerous flaws. Today the "more guns, less crime" hypothesis has been thoroughly repudiated. On closer inspection his impressive credentials reveal an academic nomad, never able to secure a place in academia. His ethical transgressions range from accusations of fabricating an entire survey, to presenting faulty regressions, to creating elaborate online personas to defend his work and bash critics, to trying to revise his online history to deflect arguments. And this doesn't even begin to cover the whole host of false claims and statistics he has peddled repeatedly in articles and TV appearances.


Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

Shooting Down the Gun Lobby’s Favorite “Academic”: A Lott of Lies

And of course david hemenway, the guy whose studies are biased and influenced by his connections to gun control groups pops up again…...

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime. According to a survey of authors of articles about firearms in peer-reviewed journals conducted by the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, 62 percent of respondents rejected the notion that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime:

New Harvard research debunks the NRA's favorite talking points

And of course hemenway, he hack is wrong again….

Correcting the record on David Hemenway's claim that academics support gun control - Crime Prevention Research Center

David Hemenway’s guest column last Sunday, “Scientists reach consensus on guns,” claimed a consensus on gun research based on a survey he conducted. But he conveniently fails to mention that another similar survey of peer-reviewed researchers was released two months ago.

That survey found the exact opposite. Gary Mauser, a professor who specializes in polling at Canada’s Simon Fraser University, conducted it for the Crime Prevention Research Center. Mauser surveyed 53 economists who published in the area over the last 15 years. Among the questions: an overwhelming number — 83 percent — noted guns are more likely to be used in self-defense than in crime. Further, 74 percent said concealed handgun laws reduce murder rates and 69 percent said guns in the home don’t cause more suicides. Also, 83 percent said gun-free zones attract criminals.

Hemenway fails to note that the people he surveyed only had to mention “firearms” in their research. They didn’t have to actually conduct empirical work on guns.

There were also problems in the recording of his responses. For instance, I was supposedly one of the researchers surveyed. Yet, my responses weren’t recorded. When I emailed Hemenway about this technical problem, my emails were ignored.


Gun control extremists have to lie…..that is the only way the can push their gun control arguments…

In the United States, as more Americans own and carry guns for self defense, the gun murder rate has gone down, not up….thus pointing out that hemenway and the other gun control activists are wrong, and gun accidental deaths have gone down, not up, again proving them wrong.

What Experts Say: Strong Gun Laws Help Reduce Homicide. The Harvard survey found that 71 percent of experts agreed that strong gun laws help reduce homicide rates:

What The Evidence Shows: Strong Gun Laws Are Linked to Fewer Firearm Homicides. An expansive and growing body of evidence indicates that stricter gun laws are strongly associated with lower rates of gun violence, including homicides.

In an extensive 2013 report called “America Under The Gun,” researchers ranked each state in the country (from 1-50) on 10 indices of gun violence, and then ran a statistical regression comparing these rankings with the strength of gun laws. The results showed that there was a strong, statistically significant correlation between weak gun laws and higher gun violence levels, leading the researchers to conclude that states with looser gun laws contribute the highest share of firearm injuries and deaths to the national gun violence toll:

While many factors contribute to the rates of gun violence in any state, our research clearly demonstrates a significant correlation between the strength of a state’s gun laws and the prevalence of gun violence in the state. Across the key indicators of gun violence that we analyzed, the 10 states with the weakest gun laws collectively have a level of gun violence that is more than twice as high—104 percent higher—than the 10 states with the strongest gun laws.

Several other studies have established similar links between gun deaths and loose gun laws. And not surprisingly, gun death rates tend to be lower in states with restrictions such as assault-weapons bans or safe-storage requirements.

Even stronger evidence was presented in a 2013 study in The American Journal of Public Health that looked at 30 years of homicide data from all 50 states and found that for every one percent increase in a state’s gun ownership rate, there was a nearly one percent increase in its firearm homicide rate. The researchers concluded that gun ownership is a “significant predictor” of firearm homicide rates, noting that states with higher rates of gun ownership have “disproportionately large numbers of deaths from firearm-related homicides”.


New Harvard Research Debunks Gun Lobby's Favorite Talking Points


lmaorog

And again…why hemenway is a hack….

And of course hemenway, he hack is wrong again….

Correcting the record on David Hemenway's claim that academics support gun control - Crime Prevention Research Center

David Hemenway’s guest column last Sunday, “Scientists reach consensus on guns,” claimed a consensus on gun research based on a survey he conducted. But he conveniently fails to mention that another similar survey of peer-reviewed researchers was released two months ago.

That survey found the exact opposite. Gary Mauser, a professor who specializes in polling at Canada’s Simon Fraser University, conducted it for the Crime Prevention Research Center. Mauser surveyed 53 economists who published in the area over the last 15 years. Among the questions: an overwhelming number — 83 percent — noted guns are more likely to be used in self-defense than in crime. Further, 74 percent said concealed handgun laws reduce murder rates and 69 percent said guns in the home don’t cause more suicides. Also, 83 percent said gun-free zones attract criminals.

Hemenway fails to note that the people he surveyed only had to mention “firearms” in their research. They didn’t have to actually conduct empirical work on guns.

There were also problems in the recording of his responses. For instance, I was supposedly one of the researchers surveyed. Yet, my responses weren’t recorded. When I emailed Hemenway about this technical problem, my emails were ignored.


Gun control extremists have to lie…..that is the only way the can push their gun control arguments…

In the United States, as more Americans own and carry guns for self defense, the gun murder rate has gone down, not up….thus pointing out that hemenway and the other gun control activists are wrong, and gun accidental deaths have gone down, not up, again proving them wrong.

 

[Brain357]

And here are actual studies on how often guns are used to stop violent crime and save lives….

I just averaged the studies......which were conducted by different researchers, from both private and public researchers, over a period of 40 years looking specifically at guns and self defense....the name of the researcher is first, then the year then the number of times they determined guns were used for self defense......notice how many of them there are and how many of them were done by gun grabbers like the clinton Justice Dept. and the obama CDC

And these aren't all of the studies either...there are more...and they support the ones below.....

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....
GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, military)
DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, military)
L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, military)
Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

--------------------


Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops, military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."
(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


-------------------------------------------

Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..
*****************************************
If you take the studies from that Kleck cites in his paper, 16 of them....and you only average the ones that exclude military and police shootings..the average becomes 2 million...I use those studies because I have the details on them...and they are still 10 studies (including Kleck's)....

Almost every study says less than 2 million.

 

[2aguy]

And of course david hemenway, the guy whose studies are biased and influenced by his connections to gun control groups pops up again…...

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime. According to a survey of authors of articles about firearms in peer-reviewed journals conducted by the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, 62 percent of respondents rejected the notion that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime:

New Harvard research debunks the NRA's favorite talking points

And of course hemenway, he hack is wrong again….

Correcting the record on David Hemenway's claim that academics support gun control - Crime Prevention Research Center

David Hemenway’s guest column last Sunday, “Scientists reach consensus on guns,” claimed a consensus on gun research based on a survey he conducted. But he conveniently fails to mention that another similar survey of peer-reviewed researchers was released two months ago.

That survey found the exact opposite. Gary Mauser, a professor who specializes in polling at Canada’s Simon Fraser University, conducted it for the Crime Prevention Research Center. Mauser surveyed 53 economists who published in the area over the last 15 years. Among the questions: an overwhelming number — 83 percent — noted guns are more likely to be used in self-defense than in crime. Further, 74 percent said concealed handgun laws reduce murder rates and 69 percent said guns in the home don’t cause more suicides. Also, 83 percent said gun-free zones attract criminals.

Hemenway fails to note that the people he surveyed only had to mention “firearms” in their research. They didn’t have to actually conduct empirical work on guns.

There were also problems in the recording of his responses. For instance, I was supposedly one of the researchers surveyed. Yet, my responses weren’t recorded. When I emailed Hemenway about this technical problem, my emails were ignored.


Gun control extremists have to lie…..that is the only way the can push their gun control arguments…

In the United States, as more Americans own and carry guns for self defense, the gun murder rate has gone down, not up….thus pointing out that hemenway and the other gun control activists are wrong, and gun accidental deaths have gone down, not up, again proving them wrong.

Cherry picking murders in a few years? lol

Gun Rhetoric vs. Gun Facts
We offer facts and context as a national gun-control debate intensifies.

While Lott’s work is often cited by gun rights advocates, his findings are strongly disputed by numerous academics. Most notably, in 2004 a committee of the National Research Council of the National Academies analyzed Lott’s research and took issue with his findings, concluding that “it is impossible to draw strong conclusions from the existing literature on the causal impact of these laws” (See Chapter 6).

National Research Council, 2004: The initial model specification, when extended to new data, does not show evidence that passage of right-to-carry laws reduces crime. The estimated effects are highly sensitive to seemingly minor changes in the model specification and control variables. No link between right-to-carry laws and changes in crime is apparent in the raw data, even in the initial sample; it is only once numerous covariates are included that the negative results in the early data emerge. While the trend models show a reduction in the crime growth rate following the adoption of right-to-carry laws, these trend reductions occur long after law adoption, casting serious doubt on the proposition that the trend models estimated in the literature reflect effects of the law change. Finally, some of the point estimates are imprecise. Thus, the committee concludes that with the current evidence it is not possible to determine that there is a causal link between the passage of right-to-carry laws and crime rates.


Gun Rhetoric vs. Gun Facts

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime.

Yes…..and you forgot the study by the bill clinton's justice dept. that shows that guns are used to stop violent crime 1.5 million times a year. The study was created by anti gun researchers, using their methods and executed by them they found 1.5 million defensive uses….and please….link that image…..so we know which anti gun extremist group you got it from…..

What The Evidence Shows: Concealed Carry Laws Are Linked to Higher Violent Crime Rates. Research indicates that more permissive concealed carry laws are linked with higher rates of violent crime, not lower rates, and that many people with concealed carry permits are not “good guys with guns.”

A study released by Stanford last year took a look at the data and found clear links between allowing concealed carry without a permit and some types of violence. It was difficult to tie right-to-carry laws to violent crime, but researchers did find an estimated 8 percent increase in aggravated assault cases — and this is likely an underestimate, according to the researchers. “The totality of the evidence based on educated judgments about the best statistical models suggests that right-to-carry laws are associated with substantially higher rates of aggravated assault, rape, robbery and murder,” said the researchers, who described the analysis of such laws as a “vexing task.”


Moreover, research has demonstrated that those who obtain concealed carry permits can pose a threat to public safety — that they’re not always the “good guys” the NRA makes them out to be: A Violence Policy Center study found that Texas concealed handgun license holders were arrested for weapon-related offenses at a rate 81% higher than the general population of Texas aged 21 and older (offenses included 279 assaults, 671 unlawfully carrying a weapon, and 172 deadly conduct/discharge of a firearm). Between January 1, 1996 and August 31, 2001, Texas concealed handgun license holders were arrested for 5,314 crimes—including murder, rape, kidnapping and theft. And a 2007 investigation by the Florida Sun-Sentinel found that the state’s permit system had granted concealed carry permits to more than 1,400 individuals who pled guilty or no contest to a felony, 216 individuals with outstanding warrants, 128 individuals with active domestic violence restraining orders, and six registered sex offenders.




New Harvard Research Debunks Gun Lobby's Favorite Talking Points

“The totality of the evidence based on educated judgments about the best statistical models suggests that right-to-carry laws are associated with substantially higher rates of aggravated assault, rape, robbery and murder,” said the researchers, who described the analysis of such laws as a “vexing task.”

The problem with this and your anti gun extremist research…..more Americans own and carry guns for self defense….and gun murder and violent crime rates are going down, not up….

See how that is a problem with what you just posted….it puts a lie to those studies…the actual numbers from the FBI and the CDC show that your studies are wrong…as does actual research into defensive gun use……..of the studies done on concealed carry, 19 say it reduces crime, 10 say there is no effect….and one study….shows an increase…

Obviously you believe in the one study vs. the 29 others………..anti gun extremism is not good for you….

 

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Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime. According to a survey of authors of articles about firearms in peer-reviewed journals conducted by the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, 62 percent of respondents rejected the notion that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime:

New Harvard research debunks the NRA's favorite talking points

And of course hemenway, he hack is wrong again….

Correcting the record on David Hemenway's claim that academics support gun control - Crime Prevention Research Center

David Hemenway’s guest column last Sunday, “Scientists reach consensus on guns,” claimed a consensus on gun research based on a survey he conducted. But he conveniently fails to mention that another similar survey of peer-reviewed researchers was released two months ago.

That survey found the exact opposite. Gary Mauser, a professor who specializes in polling at Canada’s Simon Fraser University, conducted it for the Crime Prevention Research Center. Mauser surveyed 53 economists who published in the area over the last 15 years. Among the questions: an overwhelming number — 83 percent — noted guns are more likely to be used in self-defense than in crime. Further, 74 percent said concealed handgun laws reduce murder rates and 69 percent said guns in the home don’t cause more suicides. Also, 83 percent said gun-free zones attract criminals.

Hemenway fails to note that the people he surveyed only had to mention “firearms” in their research. They didn’t have to actually conduct empirical work on guns.

There were also problems in the recording of his responses. For instance, I was supposedly one of the researchers surveyed. Yet, my responses weren’t recorded. When I emailed Hemenway about this technical problem, my emails were ignored.


Gun control extremists have to lie…..that is the only way the can push their gun control arguments…

In the United States, as more Americans own and carry guns for self defense, the gun murder rate has gone down, not up….thus pointing out that hemenway and the other gun control activists are wrong, and gun accidental deaths have gone down, not up, again proving them wrong.

Cherry picking murders in a few years? lol

Gun Rhetoric vs. Gun Facts
We offer facts and context as a national gun-control debate intensifies.

While Lott’s work is often cited by gun rights advocates, his findings are strongly disputed by numerous academics. Most notably, in 2004 a committee of the National Research Council of the National Academies analyzed Lott’s research and took issue with his findings, concluding that “it is impossible to draw strong conclusions from the existing literature on the causal impact of these laws” (See Chapter 6).

National Research Council, 2004: The initial model specification, when extended to new data, does not show evidence that passage of right-to-carry laws reduces crime. The estimated effects are highly sensitive to seemingly minor changes in the model specification and control variables. No link between right-to-carry laws and changes in crime is apparent in the raw data, even in the initial sample; it is only once numerous covariates are included that the negative results in the early data emerge. While the trend models show a reduction in the crime growth rate following the adoption of right-to-carry laws, these trend reductions occur long after law adoption, casting serious doubt on the proposition that the trend models estimated in the literature reflect effects of the law change. Finally, some of the point estimates are imprecise. Thus, the committee concludes that with the current evidence it is not possible to determine that there is a causal link between the passage of right-to-carry laws and crime rates.


Gun Rhetoric vs. Gun Facts

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime.

Yes…..and you forgot the study by the bill clinton's justice dept. that shows that guns are used to stop violent crime 1.5 million times a year. The study was created by anti gun researchers, using their methods and executed by them they found 1.5 million defensive uses….and please….link that image…..so we know which anti gun extremist group you got it from…..

What The Evidence Shows: Concealed Carry Laws Are Linked to Higher Violent Crime Rates. Research indicates that more permissive concealed carry laws are linked with higher rates of violent crime, not lower rates, and that many people with concealed carry permits are not “good guys with guns.”

A study released by Stanford last year took a look at the data and found clear links between allowing concealed carry without a permit and some types of violence. It was difficult to tie right-to-carry laws to violent crime, but researchers did find an estimated 8 percent increase in aggravated assault cases — and this is likely an underestimate, according to the researchers. “The totality of the evidence based on educated judgments about the best statistical models suggests that right-to-carry laws are associated with substantially higher rates of aggravated assault, rape, robbery and murder,” said the researchers, who described the analysis of such laws as a “vexing task.”


Moreover, research has demonstrated that those who obtain concealed carry permits can pose a threat to public safety — that they’re not always the “good guys” the NRA makes them out to be: A Violence Policy Center study found that Texas concealed handgun license holders were arrested for weapon-related offenses at a rate 81% higher than the general population of Texas aged 21 and older (offenses included 279 assaults, 671 unlawfully carrying a weapon, and 172 deadly conduct/discharge of a firearm). Between January 1, 1996 and August 31, 2001, Texas concealed handgun license holders were arrested for 5,314 crimes—including murder, rape, kidnapping and theft. And a 2007 investigation by the Florida Sun-Sentinel found that the state’s permit system had granted concealed carry permits to more than 1,400 individuals who pled guilty or no contest to a felony, 216 individuals with outstanding warrants, 128 individuals with active domestic violence restraining orders, and six registered sex offenders.




New Harvard Research Debunks Gun Lobby's Favorite Talking Points

“The totality of the evidence based on educated judgments about the best statistical models suggests that right-to-carry laws are associated with substantially higher rates of aggravated assault, rape, robbery and murder,” said the researchers, who described the analysis of such laws as a “vexing task.”

The problem with this and your anti gun extremist research…..more Americans own and carry guns for self defense….and gun murder and violent crime rates are going down, not up….

See how that is a problem with what you just posted….it puts a lie to those studies…the actual numbers from the FBI and the CDC show that your studies are wrong…as does actual research into defensive gun use……..of the studies done on concealed carry, 19 say it reduces crime, 10 say there is no effect….and one study….shows an increase…

Obviously you believe in the one study vs. the 29 others………..anti gun extremism is not good for you….

That argument is kinda like we have by far the most guns, but not the lowest crime rates.

 

[Dad2three]

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime. According to a survey of authors of articles about firearms in peer-reviewed journals conducted by the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, 62 percent of respondents rejected the notion that permissive concealed carry laws reduce crime:

New Harvard research debunks the NRA's favorite talking points

And of course hemenway, he hack is wrong again….

Correcting the record on David Hemenway's claim that academics support gun control - Crime Prevention Research Center

David Hemenway’s guest column last Sunday, “Scientists reach consensus on guns,” claimed a consensus on gun research based on a survey he conducted. But he conveniently fails to mention that another similar survey of peer-reviewed researchers was released two months ago.

That survey found the exact opposite. Gary Mauser, a professor who specializes in polling at Canada’s Simon Fraser University, conducted it for the Crime Prevention Research Center. Mauser surveyed 53 economists who published in the area over the last 15 years. Among the questions: an overwhelming number — 83 percent — noted guns are more likely to be used in self-defense than in crime. Further, 74 percent said concealed handgun laws reduce murder rates and 69 percent said guns in the home don’t cause more suicides. Also, 83 percent said gun-free zones attract criminals.

Hemenway fails to note that the people he surveyed only had to mention “firearms” in their research. They didn’t have to actually conduct empirical work on guns.

There were also problems in the recording of his responses. For instance, I was supposedly one of the researchers surveyed. Yet, my responses weren’t recorded. When I emailed Hemenway about this technical problem, my emails were ignored.


Gun control extremists have to lie…..that is the only way the can push their gun control arguments…

In the United States, as more Americans own and carry guns for self defense, the gun murder rate has gone down, not up….thus pointing out that hemenway and the other gun control activists are wrong, and gun accidental deaths have gone down, not up, again proving them wrong.

Cherry picking murders in a few years? lol

Gun Rhetoric vs. Gun Facts
We offer facts and context as a national gun-control debate intensifies.

While Lott’s work is often cited by gun rights advocates, his findings are strongly disputed by numerous academics. Most notably, in 2004 a committee of the National Research Council of the National Academies analyzed Lott’s research and took issue with his findings, concluding that “it is impossible to draw strong conclusions from the existing literature on the causal impact of these laws” (See Chapter 6).

National Research Council, 2004: The initial model specification, when extended to new data, does not show evidence that passage of right-to-carry laws reduces crime. The estimated effects are highly sensitive to seemingly minor changes in the model specification and control variables. No link between right-to-carry laws and changes in crime is apparent in the raw data, even in the initial sample; it is only once numerous covariates are included that the negative results in the early data emerge. While the trend models show a reduction in the crime growth rate following the adoption of right-to-carry laws, these trend reductions occur long after law adoption, casting serious doubt on the proposition that the trend models estimated in the literature reflect effects of the law change. Finally, some of the point estimates are imprecise. Thus, the committee concludes that with the current evidence it is not possible to determine that there is a causal link between the passage of right-to-carry laws and crime rates.


Gun Rhetoric vs. Gun Facts

Majority Of Experts Disagree That More Permissive Concealed Carry Laws Reduce Crime.

Yes…..and you forgot the study by the bill clinton's justice dept. that shows that guns are used to stop violent crime 1.5 million times a year. The study was created by anti gun researchers, using their methods and executed by them they found 1.5 million defensive uses….and please….link that image…..so we know which anti gun extremist group you got it from…..

What The Evidence Shows: Concealed Carry Laws Are Linked to Higher Violent Crime Rates. Research indicates that more permissive concealed carry laws are linked with higher rates of violent crime, not lower rates, and that many people with concealed carry permits are not “good guys with guns.”

A study released by Stanford last year took a look at the data and found clear links between allowing concealed carry without a permit and some types of violence. It was difficult to tie right-to-carry laws to violent crime, but researchers did find an estimated 8 percent increase in aggravated assault cases — and this is likely an underestimate, according to the researchers. “The totality of the evidence based on educated judgments about the best statistical models suggests that right-to-carry laws are associated with substantially higher rates of aggravated assault, rape, robbery and murder,” said the researchers, who described the analysis of such laws as a “vexing task.”


Moreover, research has demonstrated that those who obtain concealed carry permits can pose a threat to public safety — that they’re not always the “good guys” the NRA makes them out to be: A Violence Policy Center study found that Texas concealed handgun license holders were arrested for weapon-related offenses at a rate 81% higher than the general population of Texas aged 21 and older (offenses included 279 assaults, 671 unlawfully carrying a weapon, and 172 deadly conduct/discharge of a firearm). Between January 1, 1996 and August 31, 2001, Texas concealed handgun license holders were arrested for 5,314 crimes—including murder, rape, kidnapping and theft. And a 2007 investigation by the Florida Sun-Sentinel found that the state’s permit system had granted concealed carry permits to more than 1,400 individuals who pled guilty or no contest to a felony, 216 individuals with outstanding warrants, 128 individuals with active domestic violence restraining orders, and six registered sex offenders.




New Harvard Research Debunks Gun Lobby's Favorite Talking Points

“The totality of the evidence based on educated judgments about the best statistical models suggests that right-to-carry laws are associated with substantially higher rates of aggravated assault, rape, robbery and murder,” said the researchers, who described the analysis of such laws as a “vexing task.”

The problem with this and your anti gun extremist research…..more Americans own and carry guns for self defense….and gun murder and violent crime rates are going down, not up….

See how that is a problem with what you just posted….it puts a lie to those studies…the actual numbers from the FBI and the CDC show that your studies are wrong…as does actual research into defensive gun use……..of the studies done on concealed carry, 19 say it reduces crime, 10 say there is no effect….and one study….shows an increase…

Obviously you believe in the one study vs. the 29 others………..anti gun extremism is not good for you….

What The Evidence Shows: Strong Gun Laws Are Linked to Fewer Firearm Homicides. An expansive and growing body of evidence indicates that stricter gun laws are strongly associated with lower rates of gun violence, including homicides.

In an extensive 2013 report called “America Under The Gun,” researchers ranked each state in the country (from 1-50) on 10 indices of gun violence, and then ran a statistical regression comparing these rankings with the strength of gun laws. The results showed that there was a strong, statistically significant correlation between weak gun laws and higher gun violence levels, leading the researchers to conclude that states with looser gun laws contribute the highest share of firearm injuries and deaths to the national gun violence toll:

While many factors contribute to the rates of gun violence in any state, our research clearly demonstrates a significant correlation between the strength of a state’s gun laws and the prevalence of gun violence in the state. Across the key indicators of gun violence that we analyzed, the 10 states with the weakest gun laws collectively have a level of gun violence that is more than twice as high—104 percent higher—than the 10 states with the strongest gun laws.

Several other studies have established similar links between gun deaths and loose gun laws. And not surprisingly, gun death rates tend to be lower in states with restrictions such as assault-weapons bans or safe-storage requirements.

Even stronger evidence was presented in a 2013 study in The American Journal of Public Health that looked at 30 years of homicide data from all 50 states and found that for every one percent increase in a state’s gun ownership rate, there was a nearly one percent increase in its firearm homicide rate. The researchers concluded that gun ownership is a “significant predictor” of firearm homicide rates, noting that states with higher rates of gun ownership have “disproportionately large numbers of deaths from firearm-related homicides”.


New Harvard Research Debunks Gun Lobby's Favorite Talking Points


YOU GUN NUTTERS ARE WORSE THAN THE PRO FETUS MORONS!

 

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And a Harvard study that says strict gun control does not mean less violence….

Harvard Gun Study Claims Banning Weapons Doesn't Decrease Violence

n the 46-page study, which can be read in its entirety here, Kates and Mauser looked at and compared data from the U.S. and parts of Europe to show that stricter laws don’t mean there is less crime. As an example, when looking at “intentional deaths,” or murder, on an international scope, the U.S. falls behind Russia, Estonia, and four other countries, ranking it seventh. More specifically, data shows that in Russia, where guns are banned, the murder rate is significantly higher than in the U.S in comparison. “There is a compound assertion that guns are uniquely available in the United States compared with other modern developed nations, which is why the United States has by far the highest murder rate. Though these assertions have been endlessly repeated, [the latter] is, in fact, false and [the former] is substantially so,” the authors point out, based on their research.

Kates and Mauser clarify that they are not suggesting that gun control causes nations to have higher murder rates, rather, they “observed correlations that nations with stringent gun controls tend to have much higher murder rates than nations that allow guns.”