Florida Republicans to gun hating doctors mind your own business

[Ray From Cleveland]

Just browsing through my local news site and found this story about Florida Doctors wanting to nosey around their patients homes for guns. Of course they don't physically go to the house, but they want to interrogate children about guns that adults in their home may possess.

Florida passed a law that prohibits doctors from practicing this kind of interrogation, and anti-gun doctors wish to fight it, even to the Supreme Court if they have to.

I won't paste the entire piece, but just a few paragraphs that are at the heart of the story:

"Supporters in the Republican-controlled Florida Legislature and the NRA say the law became necessary when, in their view, doctors began overstepping their bounds in the examination room by pushing an anti-Second Amendment, anti-gun political agenda. The NRA cites several examples of doctors telling patients they'd have to find a new physician if they refused to answer questions about gun ownership or telling parents they should get rid of any guns in the home.

The law, supporters point out, permits doctors under a "good faith" provision to ask about firearms if the questions are deemed "relevant to the patient's medical care or safety" or the safety of other people.

"These provisions target discrimination and harassment, not speech, and they do nothing to impair doctor-patient discussions of firearm safety," NRA attorney Charles Cooper said in court papers. "Even if viewed as a speech regulation, the (law) is a reasonable regulation of speech incidental to the practice of medicine."

The law also has some teeth: doctors who violate the law could face professional discipline, such as a fine, or even lose their medical licenses. The state Department of Health would investigate any complaints, although the law has never been enforced because it was blocked in 2012 by a Miami judge's decision that found it an unconstitutional violation of free speech rights."

Battle rages over Florida law limiting doctors' gun speech

Doctors have the right to ask. It's called free speech but there is an even more practical reason. MDs prescribe dangerous psych meds to dangerous patients and it is their medical and ethical responsibility to know. Doctors need to know if their crazy patients own guns. Nearly every mass shooting has involved psych meds and or crazy people with guns.

You 1984 lovers want to categorize people who own guns as psyche patients?

What does interrogating a child have to do with that? This is about doctors fighting to torture children about gun ownership in their household. This has nothing to do with child protection, it has to do with their anti-gun agenda. It's no different than a conservative doctor interrogating a child about their parents support for Bernie Sanders. It's purely political and has nothing to do with treating patients for illnesses.

If doctors want to snoop into family matters, let them give up medicine and take up social work instead.

 

[TeaBagger]

Just browsing through my local news site and found this story about Florida Doctors wanting to nosey around their patients homes for guns. Of course they don't physically go to the house, but they want to interrogate children about guns that adults in their home may possess.

Florida passed a law that prohibits doctors from practicing this kind of interrogation, and anti-gun doctors wish to fight it, even to the Supreme Court if they have to.

I won't paste the entire piece, but just a few paragraphs that are at the heart of the story:

"Supporters in the Republican-controlled Florida Legislature and the NRA say the law became necessary when, in their view, doctors began overstepping their bounds in the examination room by pushing an anti-Second Amendment, anti-gun political agenda. The NRA cites several examples of doctors telling patients they'd have to find a new physician if they refused to answer questions about gun ownership or telling parents they should get rid of any guns in the home.

The law, supporters point out, permits doctors under a "good faith" provision to ask about firearms if the questions are deemed "relevant to the patient's medical care or safety" or the safety of other people.

"These provisions target discrimination and harassment, not speech, and they do nothing to impair doctor-patient discussions of firearm safety," NRA attorney Charles Cooper said in court papers. "Even if viewed as a speech regulation, the (law) is a reasonable regulation of speech incidental to the practice of medicine."

The law also has some teeth: doctors who violate the law could face professional discipline, such as a fine, or even lose their medical licenses. The state Department of Health would investigate any complaints, although the law has never been enforced because it was blocked in 2012 by a Miami judge's decision that found it an unconstitutional violation of free speech rights."

Battle rages over Florida law limiting doctors' gun speech

Doctors have the right to ask. It's called free speech but there is an even more practical reason. MDs prescribe dangerous psych meds to dangerous patients and it is their medical and ethical responsibility to know. Doctors need to know if their crazy patients own guns. Nearly every mass shooting has involved psych meds and or crazy people with guns.

You 1984 lovers want to categorize people who own guns as psyche patients?

What does interrogating a child have to do with that? This is about doctors fighting to torture children about gun ownership in their household. This has nothing to do with child protection, it has to do with their anti-gun agenda. It's no different than a conservative doctor interrogating a child about their parents support for Bernie Sanders. It's purely political and has nothing to do with treating patients for illnesses.

If doctors want to snoop into family matters, let them give up medicine and take up social work instead.

Stop putting words in my mouth. I did not say gun owners are crazy. I said that crazy people should not have guns. If you disagree then you are crazy and should not own guns.

Get a fucking clue you gun fondling moron.

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[Ray From Cleveland]

Just browsing through my local news site and found this story about Florida Doctors wanting to nosey around their patients homes for guns. Of course they don't physically go to the house, but they want to interrogate children about guns that adults in their home may possess.

Florida passed a law that prohibits doctors from practicing this kind of interrogation, and anti-gun doctors wish to fight it, even to the Supreme Court if they have to.

I won't paste the entire piece, but just a few paragraphs that are at the heart of the story:

"Supporters in the Republican-controlled Florida Legislature and the NRA say the law became necessary when, in their view, doctors began overstepping their bounds in the examination room by pushing an anti-Second Amendment, anti-gun political agenda. The NRA cites several examples of doctors telling patients they'd have to find a new physician if they refused to answer questions about gun ownership or telling parents they should get rid of any guns in the home.

The law, supporters point out, permits doctors under a "good faith" provision to ask about firearms if the questions are deemed "relevant to the patient's medical care or safety" or the safety of other people.

"These provisions target discrimination and harassment, not speech, and they do nothing to impair doctor-patient discussions of firearm safety," NRA attorney Charles Cooper said in court papers. "Even if viewed as a speech regulation, the (law) is a reasonable regulation of speech incidental to the practice of medicine."

The law also has some teeth: doctors who violate the law could face professional discipline, such as a fine, or even lose their medical licenses. The state Department of Health would investigate any complaints, although the law has never been enforced because it was blocked in 2012 by a Miami judge's decision that found it an unconstitutional violation of free speech rights."

Battle rages over Florida law limiting doctors' gun speech

Doctors have the right to ask. It's called free speech but there is an even more practical reason. MDs prescribe dangerous psych meds to dangerous patients and it is their medical and ethical responsibility to know. Doctors need to know if their crazy patients own guns. Nearly every mass shooting has involved psych meds and or crazy people with guns.

You 1984 lovers want to categorize people who own guns as psyche patients?

What does interrogating a child have to do with that? This is about doctors fighting to torture children about gun ownership in their household. This has nothing to do with child protection, it has to do with their anti-gun agenda. It's no different than a conservative doctor interrogating a child about their parents support for Bernie Sanders. It's purely political and has nothing to do with treating patients for illnesses.

If doctors want to snoop into family matters, let them give up medicine and take up social work instead.

Stop putting words in my mouth. I did not say gun owners are crazy. I said that crazy people should not have guns. If you disagree then you are crazy and should not own guns.

Get a fucking clue you gun fondling moron.

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The discussion is about doctors questioning kids about guns in their home, not crazy people with guns. What does one have to do with the other unless you're going to suggest that doctors can evaluate the family by what a kid says?

Try to follow the thread.........moron.

 

[Toro]

Big Gubmint Conservatives wanting the government to interfere in the doctor-patient relationship.

Get the government out of our lives! Except when someone does something I don't like!

If you don't like your doctor asking questions about guns, get another doctor.

 

[JoeB131]

You really have a lot of dreams for a President, don't you? Less dreams for States Rights apparently.

I fail to see why a physician needs to know about guns in a home when their line of work is medicine. It's like your plumber asking you about sexual relations with your wife.

guns cause 33,000 deaths and 70,000 injuries a year. It's kind of an important medical issue.

So let's be straight about what you stupids are upset about. You are upset that a doctor might say, "Hey, having kids and guns in the same house is a REALLY BAD IDEA".

 

[Wildman]

If my doctor ever asked me that I'd tell him to fuck off and mind his own business.

me too.., and start looking for a new doctor.

 

[Wildman]

it will be chopped down several notches.

 

[Wildman]

everybody has a right to feel whatever it is they feel about guns,

replace "feel" with think and believe and you will be spot on.

 

[Wildman]

...there are no 'gun-hating' doctors,

you know this as fact? ............, prove it!!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You really have a lot of dreams for a President, don't you? Less dreams for States Rights apparently.

I fail to see why a physician needs to know about guns in a home when their line of work is medicine. It's like your plumber asking you about sexual relations with your wife.

guns cause 33,000 deaths and 70,000 injuries a year. It's kind of an important medical issue.

So let's be straight about what you stupids are upset about. You are upset that a doctor might say, "Hey, having kids and guns in the same house is a REALLY BAD IDEA".

No, what I am saying is it's not a right of a doctor to interrogate children because of their political leanings on gun ownership. That's what this is all about. Physicians don't fight this hard for anything unless they are going to get some personal satisfaction out of it.

Most physicians will never have a child patent that has been shot yet alone multiple patients. It's all political Joe. It has absolutely nothing to do with the practice of medicine.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Big Gubmint Conservatives wanting the government to interfere in the doctor-patient relationship.

Get the government out of our lives! Except when someone does something I don't like!

If you don't like your doctor asking questions about guns, get another doctor.

That may be true if you're an adult and a doctor starts asking such questions. The problem is that doctors are asking kids about their gun situation at home and the parents might not even know about it.

 

[SwimExpert]

You really have a lot of dreams for a President, don't you? Less dreams for States Rights apparently.

I fail to see why a physician needs to know about guns in a home when their line of work is medicine. It's like your plumber asking you about sexual relations with your wife.

guns cause 33,000 deaths and 70,000 injuries a year. It's kind of an important medical issue.

So let's be straight about what you stupids are upset about. You are upset that a doctor might say, "Hey, having kids and guns in the same house is a REALLY BAD IDEA".

No, what I am saying is it's not a right of a doctor to interrogate children because of their political leanings on gun ownership. That's what this is all about. Physicians don't fight this hard for anything unless they are going to get some personal satisfaction out of it.

Most physicians will never have a child patent that has been shot yet alone multiple patients. It's all political Joe. It has absolutely nothing to do with the practice of medicine.

The thing is that medical practice is supposed to be transparent and place control directly in the patient's hands. That's the medically ethical way to conduct one's self. Doctor's secretly interrogating children without parental permission is the exact opposite of that.

 

[Toro]

Big Gubmint Conservatives wanting the government to interfere in the doctor-patient relationship.

Get the government out of our lives! Except when someone does something I don't like!

If you don't like your doctor asking questions about guns, get another doctor.

That may be true if you're an adult and a doctor starts asking such questions. The problem is that doctors are asking kids about their gun situation at home and the parents might not even know about it.

So?

What do you think the kid would do? Steal his parents' guns and bring them to his doctor?

Your support of big gubmint intrusion into people's private lives is noted.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Big Gubmint Conservatives wanting the government to interfere in the doctor-patient relationship.

Get the government out of our lives! Except when someone does something I don't like!

If you don't like your doctor asking questions about guns, get another doctor.

That may be true if you're an adult and a doctor starts asking such questions. The problem is that doctors are asking kids about their gun situation at home and the parents might not even know about it.

So?

What do you think the kid would do? Steal his parents' guns and bring them to his doctor?

Your support of big gubmint intrusion into people's private lives is noted.

No, supporting big government intrusion is allowing doctors to do this to your children.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You really have a lot of dreams for a President, don't you? Less dreams for States Rights apparently.

I fail to see why a physician needs to know about guns in a home when their line of work is medicine. It's like your plumber asking you about sexual relations with your wife.

guns cause 33,000 deaths and 70,000 injuries a year. It's kind of an important medical issue.

So let's be straight about what you stupids are upset about. You are upset that a doctor might say, "Hey, having kids and guns in the same house is a REALLY BAD IDEA".

No, what I am saying is it's not a right of a doctor to interrogate children because of their political leanings on gun ownership. That's what this is all about. Physicians don't fight this hard for anything unless they are going to get some personal satisfaction out of it.

Most physicians will never have a child patent that has been shot yet alone multiple patients. It's all political Joe. It has absolutely nothing to do with the practice of medicine.

The thing is that medical practice is supposed to be transparent and place control directly in the patient's hands. That's the medically ethical way to conduct one's self. Doctor's secretly interrogating children without parental permission is the exact opposite of that.

Agreed. And a doctor is not a social worker or law enforcement. It's none of the doctors business who owns guns in the home and how many. It has nothing to do with practicing medicine.

If we the people allow this nonsense to go on, it won't be long before a doctor will be able to order a child taken out of their home based on his or her opinion about having guns in the household.

 

[g5000]

No big deal.Once Hillary becomes president, she will have 8 years to regain control and get a handle on the gun nuts that have run rampant recently.Outlawing the NRA might be too much to hope for, but it will be chopped down several notches.

So not only do you hate the Second Amendment, you hate the First Amendment right of association.

I am not surprised.

 

[SwimExpert]

Once Hillary becomes president

 

[BULLDOG]

Once Hillary becomes president

My basket. My eggs. Of course you can put your eggs in trump's basket if you want to. The GOP won't like it much though.

 

[JoeB131]

No, what I am saying is it's not a right of a doctor to interrogate children because of their political leanings on gun ownership. That's what this is all about. Physicians don't fight this hard for anything unless they are going to get some personal satisfaction out of it.

Most physicians will never have a child patent that has been shot yet alone multiple patients. It's all political Joe. It has absolutely nothing to do with the practice of medicine.

If don't like doctors asking your kids about your penis surrogates, get another doctor. Problem solved.

The doctor's job is not to molify your fetish, it's too look out for the well-being of the patient.

 

[JoeB131]

Agreed. And a doctor is not a social worker or law enforcement. It's none of the doctors business who owns guns in the home and how many. It has nothing to do with practicing medicine.

If we the people allow this nonsense to go on, it won't be long before a doctor will be able to order a child taken out of their home based on his or her opinion about having guns in the household.

Again, 33,000 gun deaths and 70,000 gun injuries. Maybe we need to start taking some kids out of certain homes.