Folks, it's already too late.

[SeaMajor7]

You've unwittingly proved my point. Thanks.

Nope! Fuck YOU and your constant GASLIGHT THEATRE BULLSHIT

 

[Dagosa]

Then Trump has achieved his goal of undermining the legitimacy of our elections despite heightened scrutiny revealing virtually no voter fraud. IOW, he has persuaded you to question reality.

As long as he undermines it within the repugnant party, so their constituents don’t show up at the polls, it works for the rest who trust or present system. The GOP has been tinkering with subverting democracy for decades. Voter suppression is just another version of fascism. Not one Republican candidate for decades decried the practice….that telling; they’re all cut from the same cloth and differ only by degree.

 

[Dagosa]

Thanks for admitting voter fraud has happened. Now that we know that, we need recounts and audits.

So you’re proud of supporting voter fraud in the gop. The simple fact they are regularly caught doesn’t prove anything for you. It shows the present system works. Voter IDs simple means that repugnants will still try to cheat, it’s in their nature.

 

[Dagosa]

Then Trump has achieved his goal of undermining the legitimacy of our elections despite heightened scrutiny revealing virtually no voter fraud. IOW, he has persuaded you to question reality.

I’m of the mind that Humpers always questioned reality. They just found an ally in Trump.

 

[Mac-7]

I'm speaking to my fellow progressives when I make this observation.

It is painfully apparent the unfounded, as I write this, allegations of corruption made about Joe Biden with respect to his son are now permanently part of the conservative lexicon. No amount of refutation has in any way diminished their blind devotion to it. They're all in.

This phenomenon is hardly unique. We see other examples of it all the time. Everything from bamboo in the ballots to Fast and Furious to Crossfire Hurricane to "Obama is a Muslim" and everything in between. Endless posts with irrefutable factual content laying to waste the falsehoods they've adopted break like waves on a seawall. Their beliefs are as impenetrable as they are intransigent.

I don't believe progressives have cornered the market on the truth. Nor do I believe everything that is part of the liberal lexicon is wholly, factually, accurate. But I can find no liberal equivalence to the pervasive belief on the part of Repubs in the Big Lie. Or the extent to which conspiracy theories are central to their narratives.
Nearly 700 days later, most Republicans still believe Trump’s big lie
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ost-republicans-still-believe-trumps-big-lie/

What can be done? Persist. Persist in the hope that even if they can not bring themselves to admit it on this forum they will come to know the facts. Persist in the hope we can someday have constructive conversations over issues with which we disagree without having to argue about the color of the sky. Persist in the hope we can eventually move past the vitriol and work, TOGETHER, to address the nation's very consequential problems. IMO, Repubs have lost their way. We must remain hopeful they will find it again or all is lost.

I think the nation has been irreparably torn asunder and cannot be made whole again

We are now two peoples totally alien to each other and it will destroy this country

 

[Dagosa]

I think the nation has been irreparably torn asunder and cannot be made whole again

We are now two peoples totally alien to each other and it will destroy this country

That’s one people that decided their fears were worth throwing away a democracy.

 

[Dagosa]

No.
Never trusted elected officials or the election system long before Trump.
Both parties have been corrupted for decades.

Nope. It’s not even close.

 

[Mac-7]

That’s one people that decided their fears were worth throwing away a democracy.

You must be referring to your fear of orange hair

 

[Mac-7]

You must be referring to your fear of orange hair

But you illustrate my point

Libs like you are 180 degrees opposite from conservatives like myself

 

[Dagosa]

You must be referring to your fear of orange hair

nah, it’s your glorification of….orange hair plugs, make up and made up shit.

 

[Dagosa]

But you illustrate my point

Libs like you are 180 degrees opposite from conservatives like myself

You’re a conservative ? I thought you guys believed in the constitution, the rule of law and our hallowed institutions. Now, everything is “ the deep” state to explain away you fears.

 

[Mac-7]

nah, it’s your glorification of….orange hair plugs, make up and made up shit.

See post 209

 

[Mac-7]

You’re a conservative ? I thought you guys believed in the constitution, the rule of law and our hallowed institutions. Now, everything is “ the deep” state to explain away you fears.

As I said, there is no common ground between us

And little chance of ever finding common ground again

 

[SeaMajor7]

You must be referring to your fear of orange hai

That's all these neo-Bolsheviks have.....FEAR AND PANIC!!!!
The weather gonna kill us, the next virus is our doom, and those evil conservatives with their pesky Constitution will end the world as we know it!!!!!! DOOM AND GLOOM is all these demented assholes have to offer so that we should give up our individual rights and freedom so they could SAVE US FROM OURSELVES!!!!!

Pathetic!

 

[berg80]

As long as he undermines it within the repugnant party, so their constituents don’t show up at the polls, it works for the rest who trust or present system. The GOP has been tinkering with subverting democracy for decades. Voter suppression is just another version of fascism. Not one Republican candidate for decades decried the practice….that telling; they’re all cut from the same cloth and differ only by degree.

The gerrymandering case in AL is a telling example of the lengths to which members of the POT will go to subvert democracy. Repub legislators keep submitting district maps so egregiously unfair multiple courts, including the SC, keep rejecting them.

 

[martybegan]

Hilarious…ballot harvesting. I bet you don’t even know what it is.

Different levels. Lowest and closest to legal is just going around a community and taking valid ballots.

next is "helping" people fill out their ballots and doing the above.

Highest is finding discarded mail ballots and filling out the ones you know aren't going to vote in person (either cause they are dead, you paid them, or you know they don't vote)

 

[martybegan]

You have no idea what goes in at a voting poll do you ? You are hilariously ignorant.. Have you ever voted absentee ballot ? Sounds like you NEVER HAVE and know nothing about it. What are the fking chances one OF YOUR FAKE REPUBLICAN ballots will match the registration of a legal voter ? Think about it before you make up stooopid shit that ONLY REPUGNANTS have been found guilty of organized voter fraud.


ALL THE organized voter fraud SHIT YOU ACCUSE Democrats of, have only been done by REPUBLICANS….

Bullshit.

 

[martybegan]

There, there, of course he did. It's all a grand conspiracy. Everyone is in on it.

No, just the Dem Elite and their RINO quislings. The rest of you are just useful idiots.

Enjoy your Outer Party Status.

 

[berg80]

I think the nation has been irreparably torn asunder and cannot be made whole again

We are now two peoples totally alien to each other and it will destroy this country

At the heart of our differences is we live in a country with two opposing information networks. One says the election was stolen from Trump, Biden is a pedophile, and there is a massive conspiracy among federal workers called the deep state organized to engage in nefarious acts. The other is based in reality.

 

[berg80]

The rest of you are just useful idiots.

You mean the kind who would storm the Capital and violently attack police officers because they had been convinced folks like Ruby Freeman stole the election?

Judge rules for Georgia election workers in defamation suit against Rudy Giuliani over 2020 election falsehoods

U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell awarded default judgment against Rudy Giuliani holding him liable for defaming Georgia election workers Ruby Freeman and Wandrea ArShaye "Shaye" Moss.

www.cbsnews.com