Force A Change, Or Pass Out The Red Scarves

[Billy_Kinetta]

I understand their emotional confusion, but as these ill-educated teens will be replacing the one-time hippies currently enjoying political power and feeding them abject nonsense, perhaps a move should be made.

Should there not be a concerted effort - an educational crackdown, if you will - to force future generations to at least honestly confront and consider the thinking and logic behind the foundation of the country they will one day either lead, or destroy?

Florida High School Students Stage Walkout To Protest Gun Violence | HuffPost

 

[Marion Morrison]

They have to be taught to reason and deduce things for themselves, first.

A lot are not being provided the tools do so.

 

[JoeB131]

I understand their emotional confusion, but as these ill-educated teens will be replacing the one-time hippies currently enjoying political power and feeding them abject nonsense, perhaps a move should be made.

Should there not be a concerted effort - an educational crackdown, if you will - to force future generations to at least honestly confront and consider the thinking and logic behind the foundation of the country they will one day either lead, or destroy?

Why? These kids have it right.

We have a batshit crazy policy of letting any crazy person who wants a gun have one.

This is pure insanity. 17 people died on Wednesday because of it.

 

[JoeB131]

They have to be taught to reason and deduce things for themselves, first.

A lot are not being provided the tools do so.

Seems like they have a pretty good bead on it. There's no reason why Cruz (or Lanza, or Holmes, or Loughner, or Mateen) should have been allowed to own this kind of firepower.

and they were.

 

[impuretrash]

Kids face lots of pressure to conform, students who try to stand against this virtue signaling runs the risk of being labeled a Nazi, or worse...a Trump supporter. This mental prison is exactly where the left wants us.

 

[JoeB131]

Kids face lots of pressure to conform, students who try to stand against this virtue signaling runs the risk of being labeled a Nazi, or worse...a Trump supporter. This mental prison is exactly where the left wants us.

Um, yeah, because there's no group more 'conformist" than Teenagers. No, really.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Kids face lots of pressure to conform, students who try to stand against this virtue signaling runs the risk of being labeled a Nazi, or worse...a Trump supporter. This mental prison is exactly where the left wants us.

Um, yeah, because there's no group more 'conformist" than Teenagers. No, really.

Yes, really. Within their "Lord of the Flies" society, that is true. High school is extremely tribal.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes, really. Within their "Lord of the Flies" society, that is true. High school is extremely tribal.

Okay, except- and I know this is a concept that's hard for you to grasp-

The same was pretty much true in the Catholic High School I went to in the 1970's.

All the black kids sat at one table, all the white kids sat at another table.

All the Spanish kids sat at their own table.

All the jocks sat at their own table.

All the nerds sat at their own table.

Good thing we didn't have girls in this school back then, the tribalism would have been a lot worse.

Has nothing to with the fact that these kids have a pretty good bead on the concept that someone like Cruz never, ever should have gotten his hands on an assault rifle.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Yes, really. Within their "Lord of the Flies" society, that is true. High school is extremely tribal.

Okay, except- and I know this is a concept that's hard for you to grasp-

The same was pretty much true in the Catholic High School I went to in the 1970's.

All the black kids sat at one table, all the white kids sat at another table.

All the Spanish kids sat at their own table.

All the jocks sat at their own table.

All the nerds sat at their own table.

Good thing we didn't have girls in this school back then, the tribalism would have been a lot worse.

Has nothing to with the fact that these kids have a pretty good bead on the concept that someone like Cruz never, ever should have gotten his hands on an assault rifle.

Oh? What concept do they "have a bead on"?

 

[JoeB131]

Oh? What concept do they "have a bead on"?

I just explained it to...

Oh, never mind. Go wet yourself over the thought of possible gun control,t hat's what you are good at.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

They have to be taught to reason and deduce things for themselves, first.

A lot are not being provided the tools do so.

Seems like they have a pretty good bead on it. There's no reason why Cruz (or Lanza, or Holmes, or Loughner, or Mateen) should have been allowed to own this kind of firepower.

and they were.

Indeed. So what in each case permitted their access to firearms? Be specific.

Also in terms of Cruz, as he is the most recent, one would think using the most minimalist logic that 39 visits to the home by the sheriff's department, and a clear warning given to the FBI about the crazed young man would have prevented the shootings.

But no. The Left prefers to blame the very fact of my guns and those of other law-abiding citizens because their only care in the matter is the agenda.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Oh? What concept do they "have a bead on"?

I just explained it to...

Oh, never mind. Go wet yourself over the thought of possible gun control,t hat's what you are good at.

Who do you think you're kidding?

 

[JoeB131]

Indeed. So what in each case permitted their access to firearms? Be specific.

Also in terms of Cruz, as he is the most recent, one would think using the most minimalist logic that 39 visits to the home by the sheriff's department, and a clear warning given to the FBI about the crazed young man would have prevented the shootings.

But no. The Left prefers to blame the very fact of my guns and those of other law-abiding citizens because their only care in the matter is the agenda.

Okay, let's look at that. Despite having 39 visits by the Sheriff...

Florida shooting suspect bought gun legally, authorities say

Cruz lawfully bought the semiautomatic rifle last February, according to Peter Forcelli, special agent in charge of the Miami office of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

The gun, a Smith & Wesson M&P 15 .223, was purchased at Sunrise Tactical Supply, according to the Associated Press.

Federal law allows people 18 and older to legally purchase long guns, including this kind of assault weapon. With no criminal record, Cruz cleared an instant background check via the FBI criminal database.

There's your problem. He was able to buy a military grade weapon despite all this.

Who made that possible? Florida is a NRA Dream State...

 

[JoeB131]

Who do you think you're kidding?

Did I need to use smaller words, Corky?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I understand their emotional confusion, but as these ill-educated teens will be replacing the one-time hippies currently enjoying political power and feeding them abject nonsense, perhaps a move should be made.

Should there not be a concerted effort - an educational crackdown, if you will - to force future generations to at least honestly confront and consider the thinking and logic behind the foundation of the country they will one day either lead, or destroy?

Florida High School Students Stage Walkout To Protest Gun Violence | HuffPost

It's emotion based...the left has taught them well....err indoctrinated them

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Indeed. So what in each case permitted their access to firearms? Be specific.

Also in terms of Cruz, as he is the most recent, one would think using the most minimalist logic that 39 visits to the home by the sheriff's department, and a clear warning given to the FBI about the crazed young man would have prevented the shootings.

But no. The Left prefers to blame the very fact of my guns and those of other law-abiding citizens because their only care in the matter is the agenda.

Okay, let's look at that. Despite having 39 visits by the Sheriff...

Florida shooting suspect bought gun legally, authorities say

Cruz lawfully bought the semiautomatic rifle last February, according to Peter Forcelli, special agent in charge of the Miami office of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

The gun, a Smith & Wesson M&P 15 .223, was purchased at Sunrise Tactical Supply, according to the Associated Press.

Federal law allows people 18 and older to legally purchase long guns, including this kind of assault weapon. With no criminal record, Cruz cleared an instant background check via the FBI criminal database.

There's your problem. He was able to buy a military grade weapon despite all this.

Who made that possible? Florida is a NRA Dream State...

Sounds like a failure on the part of law enforcement.
Which is kinda weird since you leftist never miss a chance to deride the police.

 

[JoeB131]

Sounds like a failure on the part of law enforcement.
Which is kinda weird since you leftist never miss a chance to deride the police.

You mean those chances when they shoot children playing with toys? Um, yeah, you need to deride htat.

But this is a case where law enforcement isn't allowed to do its job, because we've decided that crazy people have a right to own guns.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Sounds like a failure on the part of law enforcement.
Which is kinda weird since you leftist never miss a chance to deride the police.

You mean those chances when they shoot children playing with toys? Um, yeah, you need to deride htat.

But this is a case where law enforcement isn't allowed to do its job, because we've decided that crazy people have a right to own guns.

They were told the kid was crazy and they didnt do their job.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Indeed. So what in each case permitted their access to firearms? Be specific.

Also in terms of Cruz, as he is the most recent, one would think using the most minimalist logic that 39 visits to the home by the sheriff's department, and a clear warning given to the FBI about the crazed young man would have prevented the shootings.

But no. The Left prefers to blame the very fact of my guns and those of other law-abiding citizens because their only care in the matter is the agenda.

Okay, let's look at that. Despite having 39 visits by the Sheriff...

Florida shooting suspect bought gun legally, authorities say

Cruz lawfully bought the semiautomatic rifle last February, according to Peter Forcelli, special agent in charge of the Miami office of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

The gun, a Smith & Wesson M&P 15 .223, was purchased at Sunrise Tactical Supply, according to the Associated Press.

Federal law allows people 18 and older to legally purchase long guns, including this kind of assault weapon. With no criminal record, Cruz cleared an instant background check via the FBI criminal database.

There's your problem. He was able to buy a military grade weapon despite all this.

Who made that possible? Florida is a NRA Dream State...

What made the shootings possible was the lack of followup by the local police and the FBI.

39 calls to the house for violent behavior? 39 calls with NO criminal record? Puh-leez. The system failed due to negligence on the part of officials whose job it it to make sure it doesn't fail.

Talk to them, not to me.

 

[JoeB131]

They were told the kid was crazy and they didnt do their job.

No, they weren't allowed to do their jobs. Trump vetoes a law that kept crazy people from buying guns.

The FBI isn't even in the gun business, that would be the even more ineffective ATFE.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Sounds like a failure on the part of law enforcement.
Which is kinda weird since you leftist never miss a chance to deride the police.

You mean those chances when they shoot children playing with toys? Um, yeah, you need to deride htat.

But this is a case where law enforcement isn't allowed to do its job, because we've decided that crazy people have a right to own guns.

Horseshit.