Fort Worth Mayor Apologizes For Police Shooting; Officer Resigns

ok--this cop should go to jail for manslaughter--it was not murder and not racial
..maybe it's been said--but it wasn't a welfare check..it was an open structure call = possibly a break in/burglar etc.....on these calls they don't go to the front door and knock ''hey, robber, are you in there??''' they are trying to not let a robber know they are there
...so when the cop sees what he thinks is a robber with a firearm, he shoots
..as usual with most of these cases, people don't wait for facts/etc
Manslaughter would be unfair. His only crime was, he was chosen to go on this call. When he gets there, he finds a stranger who grabbed a gun. I mean really, whats he supposed to do?
....yes, he's fked......possibly he put himself in a bad tactical situation like the lady cop who shot the crazy jackass on the highway some time ago
 
Adding, "police," to his command takes a fraction of a second. Especially being on someone's property.
A fraction of a second? So about the same amount of time it would have taken her to pull the trigger.
Dumbfuck, he already had enough time to say, "put your hands up! Show me your hands!"

He could have just said, "Police, put your hands up!" it would have taken less time AND he would have let her know he was with law enforcement.

When I was on the Security Force in Newport, we were taught that the first thing we did when we came in contact with suspicious activity or people was to identify ourselves as base police first, then give whatever command was required. You're right, it's not too hard to say "police, show me your hands".

But, that wasn't the main problem. We were also taught that when you give a command to a suspect, you had to give them time to comply with the command. This officer shot his gun as he was giving the last word of the command, she didn't have time to comply before being shot.
you people do not think in reality or think about all situations
....what if while you are giving commands, the person aims a weapon at you?? do you STILL complete the command if someone aims a firearm at you ?
he chose to take the job knowing the risks,,,
and going off of your premise why give a command at all just shoot,,,

maybe it is you not thinking it through
Exactly! The job is risky enough already. We cant expect cops to do nothing when a stranger points a gun at them.
 
You let us know if you are able to say your specifically worded statement, without any mistakes, as youre about to get into a gun fight. :laugh:
in this case he was about to murder someone in their own home,,,and he was there to serve people not get in a gun fight,,,
Cops are in danger at other peoples homes all the time. Your point is not very well thought out.
considering his actions resulted in the death of a law abiding citizen they were well thought out,,,

he swore an oath to protect peoples rights not violate them,,,
He didnt swear an oath to let people point guns at him.
why are you talking about what he didnt do???
Because thats what YOU expect him to do, which is just dumb and unrealistic.
 
Adding, "police," to his command takes a fraction of a second. Especially being on someone's property.
A fraction of a second? So about the same amount of time it would have taken her to pull the trigger.
Dumbfuck, he already had enough time to say, "put your hands up! Show me your hands!"

He could have just said, "Police, put your hands up!" it would have taken less time AND he would have let her know he was with law enforcement.

When I was on the Security Force in Newport, we were taught that the first thing we did when we came in contact with suspicious activity or people was to identify ourselves as base police first, then give whatever command was required. You're right, it's not too hard to say "police, show me your hands".

But, that wasn't the main problem. We were also taught that when you give a command to a suspect, you had to give them time to comply with the command. This officer shot his gun as he was giving the last word of the command, she didn't have time to comply before being shot.
you people do not think in reality or think about all situations
....what if while you are giving commands, the person aims a weapon at you?? do you STILL complete the command if someone aims a firearm at you ?
he chose to take the job knowing the risks,,,
and going off of your premise why give a command at all just shoot,,,

maybe it is you not thinking it through
...what?? so you are called to a possible robbery --someone aims a firearm at you and you DON'T defend yourself??
 
A fraction of a second? So about the same amount of time it would have taken her to pull the trigger.
Dumbfuck, he already had enough time to say, "put your hands up! Show me your hands!"

He could have just said, "Police, put your hands up!" it would have taken less time AND he would have let her know he was with law enforcement.

When I was on the Security Force in Newport, we were taught that the first thing we did when we came in contact with suspicious activity or people was to identify ourselves as base police first, then give whatever command was required. You're right, it's not too hard to say "police, show me your hands".

But, that wasn't the main problem. We were also taught that when you give a command to a suspect, you had to give them time to comply with the command. This officer shot his gun as he was giving the last word of the command, she didn't have time to comply before being shot.
you people do not think in reality or think about all situations
....what if while you are giving commands, the person aims a weapon at you?? do you STILL complete the command if someone aims a firearm at you ?
he chose to take the job knowing the risks,,,
and going off of your premise why give a command at all just shoot,,,

maybe it is you not thinking it through
Exactly! The job is risky enough already. We cant expect cops to do nothing when a stranger points a gun at them.
what if like in this case that person was in the right???

she had a constitutional right to protect herself in her own house and a cop walks up outside her window in the middle of the night and shoots her dead for doing that,,,
 
What's your argument here?

We should not force white police to serve in hostile black neighborhoods

Particularly when it makes the natives restless and angry at the white cops

How about uphold the law and treat ALL citizens with respect.
White police in black neighborhoods do uphold the law and treat citizens with respect

But that isnt good enough to satisfy the black race hustlers

No they don't, but you already know that. You are just a Trumper Humper who is trying to fool the people.

No they don't, but you already know that. You are just a Trumper Humper who is trying to fool the people.

Without the presence of white cops most black ghettos would be the real life version of John Carpenters movie ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK

Police should just stop responding to calls from those hood rat nests. Let them call Al Sharpton or Black Lives Suck or somebody instead.
Police should just stop responding to calls from those hood rat nests. Let them call Al Sharpton or Black Lives Suck or somebody instead.


So black people may wish for that to happen

But the consequences for black people would be devastating
 
A fraction of a second? So about the same amount of time it would have taken her to pull the trigger.
Dumbfuck, he already had enough time to say, "put your hands up! Show me your hands!"

He could have just said, "Police, put your hands up!" it would have taken less time AND he would have let her know he was with law enforcement.

When I was on the Security Force in Newport, we were taught that the first thing we did when we came in contact with suspicious activity or people was to identify ourselves as base police first, then give whatever command was required. You're right, it's not too hard to say "police, show me your hands".

But, that wasn't the main problem. We were also taught that when you give a command to a suspect, you had to give them time to comply with the command. This officer shot his gun as he was giving the last word of the command, she didn't have time to comply before being shot.
you people do not think in reality or think about all situations
....what if while you are giving commands, the person aims a weapon at you?? do you STILL complete the command if someone aims a firearm at you ?
he chose to take the job knowing the risks,,,
and going off of your premise why give a command at all just shoot,,,

maybe it is you not thinking it through
...what?? so you are called to a possible robbery --someone aims a firearm at you and you DON'T defend yourself??


please try to stay on topic,,,
 
How about uphold the law and treat ALL citizens with respect.
White police in black neighborhoods do uphold the law and treat citizens with respect

But that isnt good enough to satisfy the black race hustlers

No they don't, but you already know that. You are just a Trumper Humper who is trying to fool the people.

No they don't, but you already know that. You are just a Trumper Humper who is trying to fool the people.

Without the presence of white cops most black ghettos would be the real life version of John Carpenters movie ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK

Police should just stop responding to calls from those hood rat nests. Let them call Al Sharpton or Black Lives Suck or somebody instead.
Police should just stop responding to calls from those hood rat nests. Let them call Al Sharpton or Black Lives Suck or somebody instead.


So black people may wish for that to happen

But the consequences for black people would be devastating
thats sounds pretty racist if you ask me,,,
 
Dumbfuck, he already had enough time to say, "put your hands up! Show me your hands!"

He could have just said, "Police, put your hands up!" it would have taken less time AND he would have let her know he was with law enforcement.

When I was on the Security Force in Newport, we were taught that the first thing we did when we came in contact with suspicious activity or people was to identify ourselves as base police first, then give whatever command was required. You're right, it's not too hard to say "police, show me your hands".

But, that wasn't the main problem. We were also taught that when you give a command to a suspect, you had to give them time to comply with the command. This officer shot his gun as he was giving the last word of the command, she didn't have time to comply before being shot.
you people do not think in reality or think about all situations
....what if while you are giving commands, the person aims a weapon at you?? do you STILL complete the command if someone aims a firearm at you ?
he chose to take the job knowing the risks,,,
and going off of your premise why give a command at all just shoot,,,

maybe it is you not thinking it through
Exactly! The job is risky enough already. We cant expect cops to do nothing when a stranger points a gun at them.
what if like in this case that person was in the right???

she had a constitutional right to protect herself in her own house and a cop walks up outside her window in the middle of the night and shoots her dead for doing that,,,
...this is like a plane crash = usually human error with MANY things interwoven to produce a tragedy
...he should go to jail--but not for murder and it wasn't racial
..the dispatcher called it in as an open structure call = there could be danger there
...humans are not perfect--there will always be mistakes like this
...he probably could've made better tactical decisions
 
When I was on the Security Force in Newport, we were taught that the first thing we did when we came in contact with suspicious activity or people was to identify ourselves as base police first, then give whatever command was required. You're right, it's not too hard to say "police, show me your hands".

But, that wasn't the main problem. We were also taught that when you give a command to a suspect, you had to give them time to comply with the command. This officer shot his gun as he was giving the last word of the command, she didn't have time to comply before being shot.
you people do not think in reality or think about all situations
....what if while you are giving commands, the person aims a weapon at you?? do you STILL complete the command if someone aims a firearm at you ?
he chose to take the job knowing the risks,,,
and going off of your premise why give a command at all just shoot,,,

maybe it is you not thinking it through
Exactly! The job is risky enough already. We cant expect cops to do nothing when a stranger points a gun at them.
what if like in this case that person was in the right???

she had a constitutional right to protect herself in her own house and a cop walks up outside her window in the middle of the night and shoots her dead for doing that,,,
...this is like a plane crash = usually human error with MANY things interwoven to produce a tragedy
...he should go to jail--but not for murder and it wasn't racial
..the dispatcher called it in as an open structure call = there could be danger there
...humans are not perfect--there will always be mistakes like this
...he probably could've made better tactical decisions
thats better,,,

of course people make mistakes and I hope this one haunts him for a long time and he tells a lot of people about it,,,
he should at least get voluntary manslaughter,,,
cops should already know that all calls could have danger involved, so this call was no different,,

as for tactical mistakes,,, well it seems to cops nowadays is ," if in doubt kill",,,there are way to many cases that prove this,,
his mistake wasnt tactical although he could have taken 2 steps back out of the line of fire and announced himself again, but he chose to shoot ,,,his mistake was listening to his training to just shoot and not think,,,he did after murder a women in her own home in front of a child

this militarization of the police is getting out of control and needs to be stopped, and if the only way is to put cops in jail when they kill people then so be it,,,
 
you people do not think in reality or think about all situations
....what if while you are giving commands, the person aims a weapon at you?? do you STILL complete the command if someone aims a firearm at you ?
he chose to take the job knowing the risks,,,
and going off of your premise why give a command at all just shoot,,,

maybe it is you not thinking it through
Exactly! The job is risky enough already. We cant expect cops to do nothing when a stranger points a gun at them.
what if like in this case that person was in the right???

she had a constitutional right to protect herself in her own house and a cop walks up outside her window in the middle of the night and shoots her dead for doing that,,,
...this is like a plane crash = usually human error with MANY things interwoven to produce a tragedy
...he should go to jail--but not for murder and it wasn't racial
..the dispatcher called it in as an open structure call = there could be danger there
...humans are not perfect--there will always be mistakes like this
...he probably could've made better tactical decisions
thats better,,,

of course people make mistakes and I hope this one haunts him for a long time and he tells a lot of people about it,,,
he should at least get voluntary manslaughter,,,
cops should already know that all calls could have danger involved, so this call was no different,,

as for tactical mistakes,,, well it seems to cops nowadays is ," if in doubt kill",,,there are way to many cases that prove this,,
his mistake wasnt tactical although he could have taken 2 steps back out of the line of fire and announced himself again, but he chose to shoot ,,,his mistake was listening to his training to just shoot and not think,,,he did after murder a women in her own home in front of a child

this militarization of the police is getting out of control and needs to be stopped, and if the only way is to put cops in jail when they kill people then so be it,,,
....militarization!!!???
ok
again:
...there are about 30 MILLION calls for police assistance per year--NOT counting traffic stops
...so out of MILLIONS of calls for police assistance, there are maybe --??--3 unjustifiable shootings???!!!!!
...very, VERY rare for an unjustifiable shooting/etc
'''''In 2016, the police fatally shot 233 blacks, the vast majority armed and dangerous, according to the Washington Post. The paper categorized only 16 black male victims of police shootings as “unarmed.” That classification masks assaults against officers and violent resistance to arrest.'''''
''''Contrary to the Black Lives Matter narrative, the police have much more to fear from black males than black males have to fear from the police. In 2015, a police officer was 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male was to be killed by a police officer.''''
etc etc
https://nypost.com/2017/09/26/all-that-kneeling-ignores-the-real-cause-of-soaring-black-homicides/
https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpa11.pdf[/QUOTE]
 
When I was on the Security Force in Newport, we were taught that the first thing we did when we came in contact with suspicious activity or people was to identify ourselves as base police first, then give whatever command was required. You're right, it's not too hard to say "police, show me your hands".

But, that wasn't the main problem. We were also taught that when you give a command to a suspect, you had to give them time to comply with the command. This officer shot his gun as he was giving the last word of the command, she didn't have time to comply before being shot.
you people do not think in reality or think about all situations
....what if while you are giving commands, the person aims a weapon at you?? do you STILL complete the command if someone aims a firearm at you ?
he chose to take the job knowing the risks,,,
and going off of your premise why give a command at all just shoot,,,

maybe it is you not thinking it through
Exactly! The job is risky enough already. We cant expect cops to do nothing when a stranger points a gun at them.
what if like in this case that person was in the right???

she had a constitutional right to protect herself in her own house and a cop walks up outside her window in the middle of the night and shoots her dead for doing that,,,
...this is like a plane crash = usually human error with MANY things interwoven to produce a tragedy
...he should go to jail--but not for murder and it wasn't racial
..the dispatcher called it in as an open structure call = there could be danger there
...humans are not perfect--there will always be mistakes like this
...he probably could've made better tactical decisions

And when a cop's imperfections result in him violating police procedure, needlessly escalating a non-emergency situation, and shooting a woman to death in her own home....

.....that cop should be held legally accountable.

As for it not being murder, you'll want to check out Texas' murder statutes. They're fairly unique. And this cop's actions meet them to a T.

Which explains why he was charged with murder.
 
Whether they do or not they have to stop. What's your argument here? That cops should get away with killing innocent people because the media uses things like this to sell advertising?

What's your argument here?

We should not force white police to serve in hostile black neighborhoods

Particularly when it makes the natives restless and angry at the white cops

How about uphold the law and treat ALL citizens with respect.
White police in black neighborhoods do uphold the law and treat citizens with respect

But that isnt good enough to satisfy the black race hustlers

No they don't, but you already know that. You are just a Trumper Humper who is trying to fool the people.

No they don't, but you already know that. You are just a Trumper Humper who is trying to fool the people.

Without the presence of white cops most black ghettos would be the real life version of John Carpenters movie ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK

That's the lie your ilk will try to continue to peddle.
 
What's your argument here?

We should not force white police to serve in hostile black neighborhoods

Particularly when it makes the natives restless and angry at the white cops

How about uphold the law and treat ALL citizens with respect.
White police in black neighborhoods do uphold the law and treat citizens with respect

But that isnt good enough to satisfy the black race hustlers

No they don't, but you already know that. You are just a Trumper Humper who is trying to fool the people.

No they don't, but you already know that. You are just a Trumper Humper who is trying to fool the people.

Without the presence of white cops most black ghettos would be the real life version of John Carpenters movie ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK

Police should just stop responding to calls from those hood rat nests. Let them call Al Sharpton or Black Lives Suck or somebody instead.

I agree if they are just going to come and kill innocent folks.
 
you people do not think in reality or think about all situations
....what if while you are giving commands, the person aims a weapon at you?? do you STILL complete the command if someone aims a firearm at you ?
he chose to take the job knowing the risks,,,
and going off of your premise why give a command at all just shoot,,,

maybe it is you not thinking it through
Exactly! The job is risky enough already. We cant expect cops to do nothing when a stranger points a gun at them.
what if like in this case that person was in the right???

she had a constitutional right to protect herself in her own house and a cop walks up outside her window in the middle of the night and shoots her dead for doing that,,,
...this is like a plane crash = usually human error with MANY things interwoven to produce a tragedy
...he should go to jail--but not for murder and it wasn't racial
..the dispatcher called it in as an open structure call = there could be danger there
...humans are not perfect--there will always be mistakes like this
...he probably could've made better tactical decisions

And when a cop's imperfections result in him violating police procedure, needlessly escalating a non-emergency situation, and shooting a woman to death in her own home....

.....that cop should be held legally accountable.

As for it not being murder, you'll want to check out Texas' murder statutes. They're fairly unique. And this cop's actions meet them to a T.

Which explains why he was charged with murder.
and he is being held accountable
what's the problem??
that isn't murder if you use common sense
mur·der
/ˈmərdər/
Learn to pronounce
noun
  1. the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
    "the stabbing murder of an off-Broadway producer"

verb
  1. kill (someone) unlawfully and with premeditation.
 
he chose to take the job knowing the risks,,,
and going off of your premise why give a command at all just shoot,,,

maybe it is you not thinking it through
Exactly! The job is risky enough already. We cant expect cops to do nothing when a stranger points a gun at them.
what if like in this case that person was in the right???

she had a constitutional right to protect herself in her own house and a cop walks up outside her window in the middle of the night and shoots her dead for doing that,,,
...this is like a plane crash = usually human error with MANY things interwoven to produce a tragedy
...he should go to jail--but not for murder and it wasn't racial
..the dispatcher called it in as an open structure call = there could be danger there
...humans are not perfect--there will always be mistakes like this
...he probably could've made better tactical decisions

And when a cop's imperfections result in him violating police procedure, needlessly escalating a non-emergency situation, and shooting a woman to death in her own home....

.....that cop should be held legally accountable.

As for it not being murder, you'll want to check out Texas' murder statutes. They're fairly unique. And this cop's actions meet them to a T.

Which explains why he was charged with murder.
and he is being held accountable
what's the problem??
that isn't murder if you use common sense
mur·der
/ˈmərdər/
Learn to pronounce
noun
  1. the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
    "the stabbing murder of an off-Broadway producer"
verb
  1. kill (someone) unlawfully and with premeditation.


well since his training was "if in doubt kill" that means he was there with the intent to kill if need be,, sounds premeditated to me

you cant tell me cops wouldnt rather see a civilian body on the ground instead of a cops,,,
 
he chose to take the job knowing the risks,,,
and going off of your premise why give a command at all just shoot,,,

maybe it is you not thinking it through
Exactly! The job is risky enough already. We cant expect cops to do nothing when a stranger points a gun at them.
what if like in this case that person was in the right???

she had a constitutional right to protect herself in her own house and a cop walks up outside her window in the middle of the night and shoots her dead for doing that,,,
...this is like a plane crash = usually human error with MANY things interwoven to produce a tragedy
...he should go to jail--but not for murder and it wasn't racial
..the dispatcher called it in as an open structure call = there could be danger there
...humans are not perfect--there will always be mistakes like this
...he probably could've made better tactical decisions

And when a cop's imperfections result in him violating police procedure, needlessly escalating a non-emergency situation, and shooting a woman to death in her own home....

.....that cop should be held legally accountable.

As for it not being murder, you'll want to check out Texas' murder statutes. They're fairly unique. And this cop's actions meet them to a T.

Which explains why he was charged with murder.
and he is being held accountable
what's the problem??
that isn't murder if you use common sense

Common sense would tell you to use the relevant legal definitions. In this case, Texas state statutes on all forms of criminal homicide, including murder.

As these are the definitions that will be used in the officer's trial or plea bargain. And the statutes that the jury will be asked to consider when determining the officer's guilty or innocence.

PENAL CODE CHAPTER 19. CRIMINAL HOMICIDE

Which makes your citation of a dictionary you found online so inexplicable. As its not like Texas is going to ignore its own laws and legal definitions in favor of what you found in a free online dictionary.
 
Exactly! The job is risky enough already. We cant expect cops to do nothing when a stranger points a gun at them.
what if like in this case that person was in the right???

she had a constitutional right to protect herself in her own house and a cop walks up outside her window in the middle of the night and shoots her dead for doing that,,,
...this is like a plane crash = usually human error with MANY things interwoven to produce a tragedy
...he should go to jail--but not for murder and it wasn't racial
..the dispatcher called it in as an open structure call = there could be danger there
...humans are not perfect--there will always be mistakes like this
...he probably could've made better tactical decisions

And when a cop's imperfections result in him violating police procedure, needlessly escalating a non-emergency situation, and shooting a woman to death in her own home....

.....that cop should be held legally accountable.

As for it not being murder, you'll want to check out Texas' murder statutes. They're fairly unique. And this cop's actions meet them to a T.

Which explains why he was charged with murder.
and he is being held accountable
what's the problem??
that isn't murder if you use common sense

Common sense would tell you to use the relevant legal definitions. In this case, Texas state statutes on all forms of criminal homicide, including murder.

As these are the definitions that will be used in the officer's trial or plea bargain. And the statutes that the jury will be asked to consider when determining the officer's guilty or innocence.

PENAL CODE CHAPTER 19. CRIMINAL HOMICIDE

Which makes your citation of a dictionary you found online so inexplicable. As its not like Texas is going to ignore its own laws and legal definitions in favor of what you found in a free online dictionary.
answer the question:
what's the problem??!! he was charged
 
Exactly! The job is risky enough already. We cant expect cops to do nothing when a stranger points a gun at them.
what if like in this case that person was in the right???

she had a constitutional right to protect herself in her own house and a cop walks up outside her window in the middle of the night and shoots her dead for doing that,,,
...this is like a plane crash = usually human error with MANY things interwoven to produce a tragedy
...he should go to jail--but not for murder and it wasn't racial
..the dispatcher called it in as an open structure call = there could be danger there
...humans are not perfect--there will always be mistakes like this
...he probably could've made better tactical decisions

And when a cop's imperfections result in him violating police procedure, needlessly escalating a non-emergency situation, and shooting a woman to death in her own home....

.....that cop should be held legally accountable.

As for it not being murder, you'll want to check out Texas' murder statutes. They're fairly unique. And this cop's actions meet them to a T.

Which explains why he was charged with murder.
and he is being held accountable
what's the problem??
that isn't murder if you use common sense
mur·der
/ˈmərdər/
Learn to pronounce
noun
  1. the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
    "the stabbing murder of an off-Broadway producer"
verb
  1. kill (someone) unlawfully and with premeditation.


well since his training was "if in doubt kill" that means he was there with the intent to kill if need be,, sounds premeditated to me

you cant tell me cops wouldnt rather see a civilian body on the ground instead of a cops,,,
total bullshit and you know it
he didn't go there on his own
he was dispatched to go there
he wasn't robbing anyone or going there to kill--plain and simple
 
what if like in this case that person was in the right???

she had a constitutional right to protect herself in her own house and a cop walks up outside her window in the middle of the night and shoots her dead for doing that,,,
...this is like a plane crash = usually human error with MANY things interwoven to produce a tragedy
...he should go to jail--but not for murder and it wasn't racial
..the dispatcher called it in as an open structure call = there could be danger there
...humans are not perfect--there will always be mistakes like this
...he probably could've made better tactical decisions

And when a cop's imperfections result in him violating police procedure, needlessly escalating a non-emergency situation, and shooting a woman to death in her own home....

.....that cop should be held legally accountable.

As for it not being murder, you'll want to check out Texas' murder statutes. They're fairly unique. And this cop's actions meet them to a T.

Which explains why he was charged with murder.
and he is being held accountable
what's the problem??
that isn't murder if you use common sense

Common sense would tell you to use the relevant legal definitions. In this case, Texas state statutes on all forms of criminal homicide, including murder.

As these are the definitions that will be used in the officer's trial or plea bargain. And the statutes that the jury will be asked to consider when determining the officer's guilty or innocence.

PENAL CODE CHAPTER 19. CRIMINAL HOMICIDE

Which makes your citation of a dictionary you found online so inexplicable. As its not like Texas is going to ignore its own laws and legal definitions in favor of what you found in a free online dictionary.
answer the question:
what's the problem??!! he was charged

He was charged with murder. And rightly so.

The problem....is you're trying to excuse his behavior, insisting it was something other than murder. Alas, in Texas courts they use Texas law and Texas legal definitions.

Not what you found on 'dictionary.com'.

You cited 'common sense'. Please use it now.
 

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