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[Boss]

The programs do help Blacks leave behind poverty.

Statistics simply don't bear this out. Sorry, they just don't.

 

[Asclepias]

The only way there is never going to be equity is due to racism. I'm not going to just give up because white people want to be racist.

I got news for you... there will always be people who are racist. And not just white people.

Not my issue and its not news to me. I just dont happen to care. They can only make it hard for me but they cant stop me.

 

[Asclepias]

You worry too much about what white society thinks. I dont care. I think its needed because without it whites would go back to hiring only whites.

Not unless they wanted to have their asses sued off in federal court for violating anti-discrimination laws.

They are very adept at covering their asses so they dont get sued.

 

[Boss]

I dont need to be proud of my accomplishments for starters.

Good for you, but most people DO want to be proud of their accomplishments and have dignity.

 

[Asclepias]

The programs do help Blacks leave behind poverty.

Statistics simply don't bear this out. Sorry, they just don't.

Reality bears this out. Without "programs" poor Blacks would die out along with poor whites.

 

[Boss]

The only way there is never going to be equity is due to racism. I'm not going to just give up because white people want to be racist.

I got news for you... there will always be people who are racist. And not just white people.

Not my issue and its not news to me. I just dont happen to care. They can only make it hard for me but they cant stop me.

So you are just going to keep on supporting the "plantation mentality" of the left, even though it has destroyed the potential of the black community? That's smart.

 

[Asclepias]

I dont need to be proud of my accomplishments for starters.

Good for you, but most people DO want to be proud of their accomplishments and have dignity.

Then they should be proud they are feeding their kids and have dignity in that. I might mention that white people have absolutely no problem with their handouts so you may want to attempt to convince them they should be ashamed.

 

[Asclepias]

The only way there is never going to be equity is due to racism. I'm not going to just give up because white people want to be racist.

I got news for you... there will always be people who are racist. And not just white people.

Not my issue and its not news to me. I just dont happen to care. They can only make it hard for me but they cant stop me.

So you are just going to keep on supporting the "plantation mentality" of the left, even though it has destroyed the potential of the black community? That's smart.

I dont support plantation mentality. Nothing has destroyed the potential of the Black community. Yes that is smart. Pretending everything will be fine by allowing whites to simply continue their racist ways would be dumb.

 

[Boss]

The programs do help Blacks leave behind poverty.

Statistics simply don't bear this out. Sorry, they just don't.

Reality bears this out. Without "programs" poor Blacks would die out along with poor whites.

Bullshit.

As I said before... go research it for yourself. Blacks, while way behind whites, grew economically from 1865-1965. They stopped growing economically and began a steady decline in 1965... hmmm... what happened in 1965 to change things? Oh yeah, a racist Texas redneck implemented his "plantation" policies and you lapped it up like a puppy at a bowl of warm milk. You've been lapping it up ever since.

 

[Asclepias]

apanese Americans never went through centuries of slavery which set them back both physiologically or economically.

More news for you... Virtually EVERYONE has ancestry who endured slavery or persecution at some point in their history and Japanese-Americans are no different.

To bad your news isnt relevant to the time period, the length of time and the location in question.

 

[Boss]

The only way there is never going to be equity is due to racism. I'm not going to just give up because white people want to be racist.

I got news for you... there will always be people who are racist. And not just white people.

Not my issue and its not news to me. I just dont happen to care. They can only make it hard for me but they cant stop me.

So you are just going to keep on supporting the "plantation mentality" of the left, even though it has destroyed the potential of the black community? That's smart.

I dont support plantation mentality. Nothing has destroyed the potential of the Black community. Yes that is smart. Pretending everything will be fine by allowing whites to simply continue their racist ways would be dumb.

You haven't stopped racism and you won't stop racism. Never going to happen.

It's actually racist to placate you and patronize you because of your skin color... don't you understand that?

 

[Asclepias]

The programs do help Blacks leave behind poverty.

Statistics simply don't bear this out. Sorry, they just don't.

Reality bears this out. Without "programs" poor Blacks would die out along with poor whites.

Bullshit.

As I said before... go research it for yourself. Blacks, while way behind whites, grew economically from 1865-1965. They stopped growing economically and began a steady decline in 1965... hmmm... what happened in 1965 to change things? Oh yeah, a racist Texas redneck implemented his "plantation" policies and you lapped it up like a puppy at a bowl of warm milk. You've been lapping it up ever since.

I dont need to research. I already know what has caused that and it wasnt what you are claiming. It has more to do with a pipe dream sold by whites and swallowed hook line and sinker by Blacks. I will elaborate when I get back.

 

[Boss]

apanese Americans never went through centuries of slavery which set them back both physiologically or economically.

More news for you... Virtually EVERYONE has ancestry who endured slavery or persecution at some point in their history and Japanese-Americans are no different.

To bad your news isnt relevant to the time period, the length of time and the location in question.

Huh?? What does time periods have to do with anything? You mean, there will come a time when we can stop placating and patronizing black folks on the basis of their skin color because enough time has passed?

 

[Boss]

The programs do help Blacks leave behind poverty.

Statistics simply don't bear this out. Sorry, they just don't.

Reality bears this out. Without "programs" poor Blacks would die out along with poor whites.

Bullshit.

As I said before... go research it for yourself. Blacks, while way behind whites, grew economically from 1865-1965. They stopped growing economically and began a steady decline in 1965... hmmm... what happened in 1965 to change things? Oh yeah, a racist Texas redneck implemented his "plantation" policies and you lapped it up like a puppy at a bowl of warm milk. You've been lapping it up ever since.

I dont need to research. I already know what has caused that and it wasnt what you are claiming. It has more to do with a pipe dream sold by whites and swallowed hook line and sinker by Blacks. I will elaborate when I get back.

LMAO.. YES... the LBJ pipe dream that his Great Society programs would lift you out of poverty!

 

[Boss]

I dont support plantation mentality.

But you do. That's what you're supporting. Let's just dole out some more government money to keep the black folk happy! That's how the South maintained civility on the plantation... give them just enough to be content and they are happy.

 

[sealybobo]

If 100% of the poor people in poor communities took your advice, how many of them do you think would succeed?

Then who would work at Walmart and mcd's?

Seems there are probably lots of poor people who follow your advice and are still poor.

That doesn't mean don't try or give up because not everyone will make it but hopefully you will.

Democrats try to make things fair Republicans say every man for himself and no rules is the best way.

giving people money for doing nothing more than popping out babies is why there is a nation of poor lazy people.

What incentive is there to accomplish anything when someone merely gives you a reward for doing nothing?

Poverty is built by this concept, and to end poverty one would have to stop with the free money. I didn't say stop paying the folks, I'm saying make them earn it. Why is it liberals are against a poor person working for their money?

Because if they are working for their welfare, how are they going to look for a job? That is at least the concept.

Tell Aslepsias what you just said to me. He says poor black people will not stop having kids.

well if they're working for a welfare check, then they don't have 24 x 7 to procreate.

I wouldn't mind 4 hours a week mandatory work to pay for your welfare. Even if it is picking up trash or licking stamps or sending out emails.

Making them work, you would see a lot of lazy ones won't do the work and just stop getting the money. That's fine with me. And if there is work involved, they might just decide to go take the walmart job instead of opting to stay at home and make half what they would make at Walmart only doing nothing.

four hours a week? hahahahaahahahahahaha, what the fk is the difference to doing nothing? holy crap. People who supply them the money work 35 to 60 hours a week. So for nothing they get a salary from these hard working people. And you all lib nuts think it's racist to make them work to get their salary. How fk'd up are you all?

Then when do they have time to find a job?

So your solution is more government jobs?

 

[sealybobo]

You guys are both talking one offs. Sealy and I are talking generally. There are plenty of people that make it out of poverty. The point is that Blacks have a harder path to navigate due to racism. I made it out and for damn sure I experienced a lot of racism.

I can believe THAT!

Any white person who talked BS like you do would have his ass fired, kicked and shunned from civilized society.

That you have succeeded can only be because of the racism of low expectations from White Guilt Driven liberals.

Actually I had to be 10 times better than my white competition which wasnt hard at all. You can talk shit like I do when they are afraid of losing your expertise. However what I say on this forum and what I say or said while I was working for someone else rarely got to that level simply because no white guy would ever have the balls to prompt me.

Funny true story. We're going up north and we stop in flint Tim Horton for a coffee. It too Jamaul ten fucking minutes to get my coffee. Wtf jamaul?

But I will admit on the way back Judy Shelly Lauri and Cindi were just as slow. I think you are right about the young white kids. They are just as lazy and dumb.

 

[sealybobo]

Did you ever have a boss name Shaniqua? I didn't think so.

My first boss was a Cuban immigrant who barely spoke English. He never graduated high school. He didn't know how to make a bank deposit! Despite these shortfalls, he was an inspiring businessperson and taught me a lot about perseverance and determination to succeed. He simply didn't know the meaning of the word "quit" or "can't" and he was an inspiration.

I just saw a great episode of blackish that illustrated your point. The black guy was fighting to save his black friends job and meanwhile, the buddy went out and found a better job. Said he wasn't feeling valued so he found a better job.

I'll give you this. No law protects me if a company wants to let me go.

 

[sealybobo]

I would say youre right but when you look at it you have to call bullshit. Whites tipped the scales in their favor for over 400 years. Look what they now have. Control of the vast majority of all the institutions, resources, and jobs in the US. So you cant tell me tilting the scales makes the problem worse unless you are saying whites are going to fight to keep Blacks in poverty. Now if upsetting whites is the reason for not having AA again I have to call bullshit. I couldn't care less what they think of me. Theyre simply pions. My dignity is not determined by whites. Its determined by what I think.

What difference does past history make? There is not a damn thing in this world that anyone will ever be able to do to erase history!

Some white people DO want to keep you in poverty! They want to pat you on the head and patronize you because you can't help it that you're black. "Here's a program for you because you're incapable of doing for yourself, because we all know you are ignorant and black, and you can't help that! If you had been born with white skin, things would have been different. So here is a little something to make you feel like things are more "fair" while the world around you continues to look down at you because you've got the wrong color skin. You're never going to accomplish anything because you're black and you can't help that... so we'll take care of you by giving you just enough to survive, okay?"

Look, I totally understand your sentiments but the answer is not more government hand outs to minorities. It hasn't helped the black community, it has served to SHACKLE them! Break those chains! Set yourself FREE! You don't need guilty white liberal racists feeding you crumbs out of pity! All that serves to do is destroy your self-esteem and pride. Realize that you have unlimited potential as a human being regardless of your skin color. If people are prejudiced, prove them wrong about you, make an example of yourself. Don't line up to take their handouts, be offended by that! You don't need to be coddled or taken care of, you're a grown ass man!

The difference past history makes is that if it was done for whites whats the issue with it being done for Blacks so we can have equity?

I dont care about their motivations even if that was true. I care about the end result which would be employed Black people able to leave behind poverty.

The only thing that has shackled Black people is racism in its many forms. From the covert physiological warfare on the Black people in this country to the overt. Again. AA wouldnt destroy my self esteem. I dont have time for pride and nor do I care what some random white boy thinks.. I'm trying to feed my family and make sure my kids have it better than I did. I'm also not offended because I dont consider them handouts. They still havent compensated my ancestors for their work in generating the wealth that made this country an economic power. Getting AA is not coddling. Its just another option to get ahead in my arsenal should I ever need it. I dont get to keep a job because I'm Black I have to perform on my own merits.

I had a thought. AA isn't the problem in Detroit. The problem is there are no jobs in places like Detroit. I don't mean the heart of the city I'm talking about the other 75% of it.

I can agree racism plays a part but even you agree there is no solution to take the ghetto out of the poor blacks. There is no way to break the cycle of poverty, right? We have to give them good paying jobs first or they'll just keep breeding like rabbits? Because corporations won't go to places that are so dangerous. So dangerous kids worry they won't live to 18

Because I'd like to solve the cycle of poverty.

 

[AveryJarhman]

Yes even then. Again white cops are not part of the Black community.

They just run around in it making it dangerous.

Hi Asclepias. Reading your comment about cops making the "Black community" more dangerous I had to smile when I considered the numerous times my life and safety was threatened by a depressed, sometimes suicidal segment of the "Black community" who were "living wild" (quoting Kendrick Lamar's characterization of his parents) and robbing, shooting or outright murdering peaceful Americans residing in a struggling Brooklyn community.

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