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Conservatives want educational opportunity to be directly proportionate to wealth (or lack of it).
Student loans have been around for decades.
And they strap poorer graduates often times with decades of debt.
Instead of loans, maybe they should work a full-time job along with going to school full-time at a community college. Take several jobs during the summer and saving every possible penny. Maybe they have to take a year off working several jobs, get a job painting houses.
Better disband the military, then. I'm tired of paying for wars.
I get plenty back, living in a more educated society. The same dynamic as funding public education now. And no, there is no guarantee I get anything back from social security, medicare, unemployment and other safety net programs. Then again, I don't think it's all about me.
I get plenty back, living in a more educated society. The same dynamic as funding public education now. And no, there is no guarantee I get anything back from social security, medicare, unemployment and other safety net programs. Then again, I don't think it's all about me.
I don't recall using the word "guarantee" in my statement. What I can guarantee you though is that unless you go to college, you will get nothing back by sending others to college.
As for living in a more educated society, we have plenty of educated kids now. In fact, we have record number of college graduates living with their parents because they can't find a job in the field they were educated in. There is no shortage of college graduates, only in specific fields that kids don't want to challenge because it's too hard.
If you want to continue to keep people in their places, sure.
I'd prefer to have low tuition education with available internships in their field of study either during or immediately following college. Holding off on getting a quality education doesn't help anyone.
If you want to continue to keep people in their places, sure.
I'd prefer to have low tuition education with available internships in their field of study either during or immediately following college. Holding off on getting a quality education doesn't help anyone.
How is making loans more difficult to obtain and students working for their education "keep people in their places"?
Internships are already available.
How does holding off on an education hurt anyone? I took a respite off from my education to get a different education and visit S.E. Asia. One of my best friends got her degree in education then toured Europe for two years on a bike. Another stayed with us while she was getting her masters, worked full time as a waitress in one of our nicer restaurants. In the Summer, she worked that job in the evenings and painted houses during the day.
Because if kids from the social castes you look down on are able to succeed, they'd be in competition for the same jobs as your kids. More to the point, it would give the lie to your side's favorite talking point about how "People are poor because they're lazy."
Now, do some more name-calling to show how "educated" you are.
If you want to continue to keep people in their places, sure.
I'd prefer to have low tuition education with available internships in their field of study either during or immediately following college. Holding off on getting a quality education doesn't help anyone.
How is making loans more difficult to obtain and students working for their education "keep people in their places"?
Internships are already available.
How does holding off on an education hurt anyone? I took a respite off from my education to get a different education and visit S.E. Asia. One of my best friends got her degree in education then toured Europe for two years on a bike. Another stayed with us while she was getting her masters, worked full time as a waitress in one of our nicer restaurants. In the Summer, she worked that job in the evenings and painted houses during the day.
The basic cost of a college education has gone up. Yes, internships are avaiable but they don't pay for your college education..sheesh.
Conservatives want educational opportunity to be directly proportionate to wealth (or lack of it).
Why is that, because the only way a liberal knows how to get something if by getting it from other taxpayers?
What's wrong with a kid getting out of school and working for a couple of years, save his or her money, and pay for college themselves? You don't have to enroll in college right at the age of 18. You can enroll at the age of 23, 24, 25, or whenever.
The basic cost of a college education has gone up. Yes, internships are avaiable [available] but they don't pay for your college education..sheesh.
Ah, the old "if the government didn't bleed us to death with taxes, we'd give more to charity" argument. Knew that wouldn't take long.
Some of us can do both. Others just whine.
There is no such thing as "free" college education, someone is paying for it
You're an idiot. Lots of things are called free that are paid for by someone.
It's still not free, idiot. Your very own comment proves it.Sweet jeebus you're a dumb deer
If you knew anything, you'd know that Bernie Sanders is calling for tuition free college at certain schools.
That is not a misnomer. If you apply to a college were there is no tuition charge, your tuition is zero. Tuition free.
Get it?
Yes, tuition free at ALL STATE SCHOOLS. No, the tuition is not free, it is picked from my pocket or others. Free will have no value to the student.
Do you have the name of a tuition free college?
It's a stupid idea. If it were smart, why not start at 16? Let a kid earn enough to pay for the last 2 years of high school.
Sure, a kid can do that if they are thinking well ahead of time. Let them get a part-time job after school and work full-time during the summer to save for college. Good thinking on you part.
While you insist on keeping the minimum wage as low as possible because, as you say,
after all it's just kids working minimum wage jobs and what the fuck do they need money for?
Bullshit. Send your money. You said you wouldn't mind. Prove it. Just leave the rest of us the fuck alone.Mail your check to the Treasury and STFU then.No shit Sherlock I know it's not free, gub'mint worshiping assholes like to call it FREE so they can deceive clueless sheeple into thinking that money grows on trees while at the same time engaging in vote buying with other peoples money.
If the conversation were honest AT ALL the word "free" would never be brought into it but again honesty isn't something the gub'mint worshipers are capable of.
Conservatives have the damnedest ways of rationalizing their greed.
You assholes are the ones wanting free shit.
Actually, I'd have to pay for others to go to college, medicare, social security and unemployment insurance and I'm totally fine with it.
Nope, it's a group project and the winners get to decide.
There is no such thing as "free" college education, someone is paying for it
You're an idiot. Lots of things are called free that are paid for by someone.
It's still not free, idiot. Your very own comment proves it.Sweet jeebus you're a dumb deer
If you knew anything, you'd know that Bernie Sanders is calling for tuition free college at certain schools.
That is not a misnomer. If you apply to a college were there is no tuition charge, your tuition is zero. Tuition free.
Get it?
Yes, tuition free at ALL STATE SCHOOLS. No, the tuition is not free, it is picked from my pocket or others. Free will have no value to the student.
Do you have the name of a tuition free college?
Yes, College of the Ozarks.
If you don't have extended education in this country or the world in 2016 then you are fucked. You most likely will get nowhere in life and if the only thing holding kids back in an ever slipping away middle class is the cost of extended education then we need to do something about it.
To not displace some amount of the cost of college only keeps the poor in their place. Those HVAC units aren't going to repair themselves, you want an educated and trained populace.
Bullshit. Send your money. You said you wouldn't mind. Prove it. Just leave the rest of us the fuck alone.Mail your check to the Treasury and STFU then.Conservatives have the damnedest ways of rationalizing their greed.
You assholes are the ones wanting free shit.
Actually, I'd have to pay for others to go to college, medicare, social security and unemployment insurance and I'm totally fine with it.
Nope, it's a group project and the winners get to decide.
I get plenty back, living in a more educated society. The same dynamic as funding public education now. And no, there is no guarantee I get anything back from social security, medicare, unemployment and other safety net programs. Then again, I don't think it's all about me.
I don't recall using the word "guarantee" in my statement. What I can guarantee you though is that unless you go to college, you will get nothing back by sending others to college.
As for living in a more educated society, we have plenty of educated kids now. In fact, we have record number of college graduates living with their parents because they can't find a job in the field they were educated in. There is no shortage of college graduates, only in specific fields that kids don't want to challenge because it's too hard.
If you don't have extended education in this country or the world in 2016 then you are fucked. You most likely will get nowhere in life and if the only thing holding kids back in an ever slipping away middle class is the cost of extended education then we need to do something about it.
To not displace some amount of the cost of college only keeps the poor in their place. Those HVAC units aren't going to repair themselves, you want an educated and trained populace.
Bullshit. Send your money. You said you wouldn't mind. Prove it. Just leave the rest of us the fuck alone.Mail your check to the Treasury and STFU then.You assholes are the ones wanting free shit.
Actually, I'd have to pay for others to go to college, medicare, social security and unemployment insurance and I'm totally fine with it.
Nope, it's a group project and the winners get to decide.
Another on board for making the rich richer and the poor poorer.
Conservatives want educational opportunity to be directly proportionate to wealth (or lack of it).
