From Rags To Riches.....Or Not

[Rustic]

Here is the misuse of the term 'poor' by this government:

"...46 percent of all poor households actually own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio."
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/221932/poor-politics/robert-rector

Well damn! I wish I was that poor.

Wait...it gets worse:

1. The 'poor' have more spendable money than many who work for a living, and support socialist expenditures:

"In 2012, the Heritage Foundation estimated how much assistance the average welfare recipient received. It found that on average, Americans who depend on federal assistance got the equivalent of $32,748 in annual benefits. That was more than the average American worker makes in a year. The median net wage in America in 2013 was $28,031."Dependent - theTrumpet.com

Startin' to feel like a sucker?




2. “In Entitlement America, The Head Of A Household Of Four Making Minimum Wage Has More Disposable Income Than A Family Making $60,000 A Year.” In it we merely explained what has become the painful reality in America: for increasingly more it is now more lucrative – in the form of actual disposable income – to sit, do nothing, and collect various welfare entitlements, than to work.

This is graphically, and very painfully confirmed, in the below chart from Gary Alexander, Secretary of Public Welfare, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (a state best known for its broke capital Harrisburg). As quantified and explained by Alexander, “the single mom is better off earning gross income of $29,000 with $57,327 in net income & benefits than to earn gross income of $69,000 with net income and benefits of $57,045.“
Poverty pays better than middle-class employment Human Events


a. You can do as well working one week a month at minimum wage as you can working $60,000-a-year, full-time, high-stress job.

WITH WELFARE IT MAKES SENSE TO WORK LESS,”
The chart is quite revealing. A one-parent family of three making $14,500 a year (minimum wage) has more disposable income than a family making $60,000 a year. If the family provider works only one week a month at minimum wage, he or she makes 92 percent as much as a provider grossing $60,000 a year.
http://granitegrok.com/wp-content/u..._With-welfare-it-makes-sense-to-work-less.pdf


From Emmerich:

You can do as well working one week a month at minimum wage as you can working $60,000-a-year, full-time, high-stress job.

My chart tells the story. It is pretty much self-explanatory.

Think politicians don't know this?

Welfare is simply a bribe given for the 'poor's' vote.

Nobody wants to be on welfare, stupid- it's for corrupt GOP depressions. Unless you're disabled, most places you have to work menial bs for benefits, look for work, get screened for drugs etc, get counseling etc etc.

Socialists worship welfare, that way they don't have to work. They think there's always other peoples money to take. Fact

 

[francoHFW]

It's a desert. Yeah, it gets real cold. Nevada is a land of extremes. Extreme heat. Extreme cold. It's not uncommon for the temperature to drop into the teens during the winter. And if you are implying that it's their fault for gambling, you would be mistaken. Do a little research on the causes of homeless.

What are the greatest causes of homelessness?

For persons in families, the three most commonly cited causes, according to a2008 U.S. Conference of Mayors study (pdf) are:

• Lack of affordable housing
  
• Poverty
  
• Unemployment

For singles, the three most commonly cited causes of homelessness are:

• Substance abuse
  
• Lack of affordable housing
  
• Mental illness

Hmm. I don't see gambling on that list. Do you?

Gads, what a dope.

The 'homeless' make up 0.0001562% of the population.

How about you Liberals reach into your pockets and support 'em.....?

For one, I'm not a liberal. Whatever gave you that Idea? Perhaps you should review what was said by whom, on this thread. I jumped in and asked where all that money was going for the Department of Education, then you jumped all over me. I'm on your side. Chill.

This post of yours implied the very opposite:
'Then I'm guessing you have never visited a homeless shelter in a major city. In Las Vegas, there were thousands of them, waiting in the chow line. waiting for a chance to get out of the cold. There were never enough beds. Between 2.3 and 3.5 million people are homeless in America . Those are 2008 figures. It's undoubtedly worse today. I would hardly call that an insignificant number. And it's much worse in other countries.'


But I'm ready to hit the 'Reset Button.'

There is no way to know the exact number of poor. For one thing, it depends on your definition of poor. I've been homeless in three major cities. I know what it's like out there. It's a period of my life that I'm still trying to forget. All I meant is that there are a LOT of homeless people out there. It is not an insignificant number, no matter what statistics you use. Yet the government continues to throw gobs of money at the problem, it hasn't made a dent. You can't get rid of homelessness. That's a fact. Thus my original statement. The poor will always be with us. And reset accepted.

Progressive career politicians want the poor to stay poor, then they have a consistent voting block. Fact

Brainwashed functional moron.

 

[francoHFW]

Here is the misuse of the term 'poor' by this government:

"...46 percent of all poor households actually own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio."
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/221932/poor-politics/robert-rector

Well damn! I wish I was that poor.

Wait...it gets worse:

1. The 'poor' have more spendable money than many who work for a living, and support socialist expenditures:

"In 2012, the Heritage Foundation estimated how much assistance the average welfare recipient received. It found that on average, Americans who depend on federal assistance got the equivalent of $32,748 in annual benefits. That was more than the average American worker makes in a year. The median net wage in America in 2013 was $28,031."Dependent - theTrumpet.com

Startin' to feel like a sucker?




2. “In Entitlement America, The Head Of A Household Of Four Making Minimum Wage Has More Disposable Income Than A Family Making $60,000 A Year.” In it we merely explained what has become the painful reality in America: for increasingly more it is now more lucrative – in the form of actual disposable income – to sit, do nothing, and collect various welfare entitlements, than to work.

This is graphically, and very painfully confirmed, in the below chart from Gary Alexander, Secretary of Public Welfare, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (a state best known for its broke capital Harrisburg). As quantified and explained by Alexander, “the single mom is better off earning gross income of $29,000 with $57,327 in net income & benefits than to earn gross income of $69,000 with net income and benefits of $57,045.“
Poverty pays better than middle-class employment Human Events


a. You can do as well working one week a month at minimum wage as you can working $60,000-a-year, full-time, high-stress job.

WITH WELFARE IT MAKES SENSE TO WORK LESS,”
The chart is quite revealing. A one-parent family of three making $14,500 a year (minimum wage) has more disposable income than a family making $60,000 a year. If the family provider works only one week a month at minimum wage, he or she makes 92 percent as much as a provider grossing $60,000 a year.
http://granitegrok.com/wp-content/u..._With-welfare-it-makes-sense-to-work-less.pdf


From Emmerich:

You can do as well working one week a month at minimum wage as you can working $60,000-a-year, full-time, high-stress job.

My chart tells the story. It is pretty much self-explanatory.

Think politicians don't know this?

Welfare is simply a bribe given for the 'poor's' vote.

Nobody wants to be on welfare, stupid- it's for corrupt GOP depressions. Unless you're disabled, most places you have to work menial bs for benefits, look for work, get screened for drugs etc, get counseling etc etc.

Socialists worship welfare, that way they don't have to work. They think there's always other peoples money to take. Fact

Pure bs GOP propaganda.

 

[Rustic]

Gads, what a dope.

The 'homeless' make up 0.0001562% of the population.

How about you Liberals reach into your pockets and support 'em.....?

For one, I'm not a liberal. Whatever gave you that Idea? Perhaps you should review what was said by whom, on this thread. I jumped in and asked where all that money was going for the Department of Education, then you jumped all over me. I'm on your side. Chill.

This post of yours implied the very opposite:
'Then I'm guessing you have never visited a homeless shelter in a major city. In Las Vegas, there were thousands of them, waiting in the chow line. waiting for a chance to get out of the cold. There were never enough beds. Between 2.3 and 3.5 million people are homeless in America . Those are 2008 figures. It's undoubtedly worse today. I would hardly call that an insignificant number. And it's much worse in other countries.'


But I'm ready to hit the 'Reset Button.'

There is no way to know the exact number of poor. For one thing, it depends on your definition of poor. I've been homeless in three major cities. I know what it's like out there. It's a period of my life that I'm still trying to forget. All I meant is that there are a LOT of homeless people out there. It is not an insignificant number, no matter what statistics you use. Yet the government continues to throw gobs of money at the problem, it hasn't made a dent. You can't get rid of homelessness. That's a fact. Thus my original statement. The poor will always be with us. And reset accepted.

Progressive career politicians want the poor to stay poor, then they have a consistent voting block. Fact

Brainwashed functional moron.

I know progressive socialists are…

 

[Rustic]

Here is the misuse of the term 'poor' by this government:

"...46 percent of all poor households actually own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio."
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/221932/poor-politics/robert-rector

Well damn! I wish I was that poor.

Wait...it gets worse:

1. The 'poor' have more spendable money than many who work for a living, and support socialist expenditures:

"In 2012, the Heritage Foundation estimated how much assistance the average welfare recipient received. It found that on average, Americans who depend on federal assistance got the equivalent of $32,748 in annual benefits. That was more than the average American worker makes in a year. The median net wage in America in 2013 was $28,031."Dependent - theTrumpet.com

Startin' to feel like a sucker?




2. “In Entitlement America, The Head Of A Household Of Four Making Minimum Wage Has More Disposable Income Than A Family Making $60,000 A Year.” In it we merely explained what has become the painful reality in America: for increasingly more it is now more lucrative – in the form of actual disposable income – to sit, do nothing, and collect various welfare entitlements, than to work.

This is graphically, and very painfully confirmed, in the below chart from Gary Alexander, Secretary of Public Welfare, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (a state best known for its broke capital Harrisburg). As quantified and explained by Alexander, “the single mom is better off earning gross income of $29,000 with $57,327 in net income & benefits than to earn gross income of $69,000 with net income and benefits of $57,045.“
Poverty pays better than middle-class employment Human Events


a. You can do as well working one week a month at minimum wage as you can working $60,000-a-year, full-time, high-stress job.

WITH WELFARE IT MAKES SENSE TO WORK LESS,”
The chart is quite revealing. A one-parent family of three making $14,500 a year (minimum wage) has more disposable income than a family making $60,000 a year. If the family provider works only one week a month at minimum wage, he or she makes 92 percent as much as a provider grossing $60,000 a year.
http://granitegrok.com/wp-content/u..._With-welfare-it-makes-sense-to-work-less.pdf


From Emmerich:

You can do as well working one week a month at minimum wage as you can working $60,000-a-year, full-time, high-stress job.

My chart tells the story. It is pretty much self-explanatory.

Think politicians don't know this?

Welfare is simply a bribe given for the 'poor's' vote.

Nobody wants to be on welfare, stupid- it's for corrupt GOP depressions. Unless you're disabled, most places you have to work menial bs for benefits, look for work, get screened for drugs etc, get counseling etc etc.

Socialists worship welfare, that way they don't have to work. They think there's always other peoples money to take. Fact

Pure bs GOP propaganda.

No, the GOP establishment are part of the problem they're socialist and progressive too...

 

[PoliticalChic]

Here is the misuse of the term 'poor' by this government:

"...46 percent of all poor households actually own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio."
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/221932/poor-politics/robert-rector

Well damn! I wish I was that poor.

Wait...it gets worse:

1. The 'poor' have more spendable money than many who work for a living, and support socialist expenditures:

"In 2012, the Heritage Foundation estimated how much assistance the average welfare recipient received. It found that on average, Americans who depend on federal assistance got the equivalent of $32,748 in annual benefits. That was more than the average American worker makes in a year. The median net wage in America in 2013 was $28,031."Dependent - theTrumpet.com

Startin' to feel like a sucker?




2. “In Entitlement America, The Head Of A Household Of Four Making Minimum Wage Has More Disposable Income Than A Family Making $60,000 A Year.” In it we merely explained what has become the painful reality in America: for increasingly more it is now more lucrative – in the form of actual disposable income – to sit, do nothing, and collect various welfare entitlements, than to work.

This is graphically, and very painfully confirmed, in the below chart from Gary Alexander, Secretary of Public Welfare, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (a state best known for its broke capital Harrisburg). As quantified and explained by Alexander, “the single mom is better off earning gross income of $29,000 with $57,327 in net income & benefits than to earn gross income of $69,000 with net income and benefits of $57,045.“
Poverty pays better than middle-class employment Human Events


a. You can do as well working one week a month at minimum wage as you can working $60,000-a-year, full-time, high-stress job.

WITH WELFARE IT MAKES SENSE TO WORK LESS,”
The chart is quite revealing. A one-parent family of three making $14,500 a year (minimum wage) has more disposable income than a family making $60,000 a year. If the family provider works only one week a month at minimum wage, he or she makes 92 percent as much as a provider grossing $60,000 a year.
http://granitegrok.com/wp-content/u..._With-welfare-it-makes-sense-to-work-less.pdf


From Emmerich:

You can do as well working one week a month at minimum wage as you can working $60,000-a-year, full-time, high-stress job.

My chart tells the story. It is pretty much self-explanatory.

Think politicians don't know this?

Welfare is simply a bribe given for the 'poor's' vote.

The whole time I was homeless, I wasn't getting anything. I supported myself by donating plasma twice a week. That was good for about 50 dollars a week,and day labor....when they had anything for me. Between that and all the soup lines and other charitable stuff, I squeaked by. But it's still something I would not want to go through again.

God Bless.

I'm thankful that you are one of those who has made it through such tribulations.


I know you're not saying that there is no governmental or non-profits nor religious organizations that would have helped....
...so I believe you are saying you broke through all on your own will and self discipline.


Am I correct in understanding that?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Here is the misuse of the term 'poor' by this government:

"...46 percent of all poor households actually own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio."
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/221932/poor-politics/robert-rector

Well damn! I wish I was that poor.

Wait...it gets worse:

1. The 'poor' have more spendable money than many who work for a living, and support socialist expenditures:

"In 2012, the Heritage Foundation estimated how much assistance the average welfare recipient received. It found that on average, Americans who depend on federal assistance got the equivalent of $32,748 in annual benefits. That was more than the average American worker makes in a year. The median net wage in America in 2013 was $28,031."Dependent - theTrumpet.com

Startin' to feel like a sucker?




2. “In Entitlement America, The Head Of A Household Of Four Making Minimum Wage Has More Disposable Income Than A Family Making $60,000 A Year.” In it we merely explained what has become the painful reality in America: for increasingly more it is now more lucrative – in the form of actual disposable income – to sit, do nothing, and collect various welfare entitlements, than to work.

This is graphically, and very painfully confirmed, in the below chart from Gary Alexander, Secretary of Public Welfare, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (a state best known for its broke capital Harrisburg). As quantified and explained by Alexander, “the single mom is better off earning gross income of $29,000 with $57,327 in net income & benefits than to earn gross income of $69,000 with net income and benefits of $57,045.“
Poverty pays better than middle-class employment Human Events


a. You can do as well working one week a month at minimum wage as you can working $60,000-a-year, full-time, high-stress job.

WITH WELFARE IT MAKES SENSE TO WORK LESS,”
The chart is quite revealing. A one-parent family of three making $14,500 a year (minimum wage) has more disposable income than a family making $60,000 a year. If the family provider works only one week a month at minimum wage, he or she makes 92 percent as much as a provider grossing $60,000 a year.
http://granitegrok.com/wp-content/u..._With-welfare-it-makes-sense-to-work-less.pdf


From Emmerich:

You can do as well working one week a month at minimum wage as you can working $60,000-a-year, full-time, high-stress job.

My chart tells the story. It is pretty much self-explanatory.

Think politicians don't know this?

Welfare is simply a bribe given for the 'poor's' vote.

Nobody wants to be on welfare, stupid- it's for corrupt GOP depressions. Unless you're disabled, most places you have to work menial bs for benefits, look for work, get screened for drugs etc, get counseling etc etc.

1. Of course huge numbers have no intention of getting off the dole.
Your denial is simply one more lie on your part.

2. The Liberals have actually designed the system to make it sorely difficult to get off the welfare plantation.

Watch:
- those who try to work to find their way out of the trap will find that, as income rises, the loss of their welfare benefits is the same as a huge tax on their earnings!

a. Take the example of someone receiving $12,000 in welfare benefits. She takes a new job earning $16,000 a year. But if she loses 50 cents in benefits for every dollar she now earns, that is the equivalent of a 50% tax! Plus, the payroll tax is another 7.65%, and federal tax is another 10% on the margin, plus state tax of 5%.... total: 72.65% tax. Where is the incentive to work? Comes to a salary of $84.15/ week. Now subtract transportation, lunches, etc., etc.

b. “…but the central point is obvious. Marginal tax rates for inner-city inhabitants are prohibitively high. Over the entire wage range from zero to $1,600 per month (equivalent to a gross paycheck of $1,463 per month), the family's monthly spendable income rises by $69. This corresponds to an average tax "wedge" of 95.7 percent. More shocking, between zero and $1,200 per month in gross wages, the family loses $46 in monthly spendable income -- an average tax in excess of 100 percent. This loss in net spendable income is concentrated between gross wages of $700 and $1,200 per month. As monthly wages paid rise by $500 in this span, the family loses its entitlement to $385 in AFDC benefits and $9 in food stamps. In addition the housing subsidy is reduced by $23 and the value of medical benefits declines an estimated $130. At the same time the family's tax liabilities increase by a total of $161 -- $8 in state income and disability insurance taxes, $68 in payroll taxes, and $85 in federal income tax. (Details of these calculations are given in the appendix.)” The Tightening Grip of the Poverty Trap


Sooo......I've destroyed you again, huh?

 

[RWNJ]

Here is the misuse of the term 'poor' by this government:

"...46 percent of all poor households actually own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio."
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/221932/poor-politics/robert-rector

Well damn! I wish I was that poor.

Wait...it gets worse:

1. The 'poor' have more spendable money than many who work for a living, and support socialist expenditures:

"In 2012, the Heritage Foundation estimated how much assistance the average welfare recipient received. It found that on average, Americans who depend on federal assistance got the equivalent of $32,748 in annual benefits. That was more than the average American worker makes in a year. The median net wage in America in 2013 was $28,031."Dependent - theTrumpet.com

Startin' to feel like a sucker?




2. “In Entitlement America, The Head Of A Household Of Four Making Minimum Wage Has More Disposable Income Than A Family Making $60,000 A Year.” In it we merely explained what has become the painful reality in America: for increasingly more it is now more lucrative – in the form of actual disposable income – to sit, do nothing, and collect various welfare entitlements, than to work.

This is graphically, and very painfully confirmed, in the below chart from Gary Alexander, Secretary of Public Welfare, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (a state best known for its broke capital Harrisburg). As quantified and explained by Alexander, “the single mom is better off earning gross income of $29,000 with $57,327 in net income & benefits than to earn gross income of $69,000 with net income and benefits of $57,045.“
Poverty pays better than middle-class employment Human Events


a. You can do as well working one week a month at minimum wage as you can working $60,000-a-year, full-time, high-stress job.

WITH WELFARE IT MAKES SENSE TO WORK LESS,”
The chart is quite revealing. A one-parent family of three making $14,500 a year (minimum wage) has more disposable income than a family making $60,000 a year. If the family provider works only one week a month at minimum wage, he or she makes 92 percent as much as a provider grossing $60,000 a year.
http://granitegrok.com/wp-content/u..._With-welfare-it-makes-sense-to-work-less.pdf


From Emmerich:

You can do as well working one week a month at minimum wage as you can working $60,000-a-year, full-time, high-stress job.

My chart tells the story. It is pretty much self-explanatory.

Think politicians don't know this?

Welfare is simply a bribe given for the 'poor's' vote.

The whole time I was homeless, I wasn't getting anything. I supported myself by donating plasma twice a week. That was good for about 50 dollars a week,and day labor....when they had anything for me. Between that and all the soup lines and other charitable stuff, I squeaked by. But it's still something I would not want to go through again.

God Bless.

I'm thankful that you are one of those who has made it through such tribulations.


I know you're not saying that there is no governmental or non-profits nor religious organizations that would have helped....
...so I believe you are saying you broke through all on your own will and self discipline.


Am I correct in understanding that?

Here is the misuse of the term 'poor' by this government:

"...46 percent of all poor households actually own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio."
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/221932/poor-politics/robert-rector

Well damn! I wish I was that poor.

Wait...it gets worse:

1. The 'poor' have more spendable money than many who work for a living, and support socialist expenditures:

"In 2012, the Heritage Foundation estimated how much assistance the average welfare recipient received. It found that on average, Americans who depend on federal assistance got the equivalent of $32,748 in annual benefits. That was more than the average American worker makes in a year. The median net wage in America in 2013 was $28,031."Dependent - theTrumpet.com

Startin' to feel like a sucker?




2. “In Entitlement America, The Head Of A Household Of Four Making Minimum Wage Has More Disposable Income Than A Family Making $60,000 A Year.” In it we merely explained what has become the painful reality in America: for increasingly more it is now more lucrative – in the form of actual disposable income – to sit, do nothing, and collect various welfare entitlements, than to work.

This is graphically, and very painfully confirmed, in the below chart from Gary Alexander, Secretary of Public Welfare, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (a state best known for its broke capital Harrisburg). As quantified and explained by Alexander, “the single mom is better off earning gross income of $29,000 with $57,327 in net income & benefits than to earn gross income of $69,000 with net income and benefits of $57,045.“
Poverty pays better than middle-class employment Human Events


a. You can do as well working one week a month at minimum wage as you can working $60,000-a-year, full-time, high-stress job.

WITH WELFARE IT MAKES SENSE TO WORK LESS,”
The chart is quite revealing. A one-parent family of three making $14,500 a year (minimum wage) has more disposable income than a family making $60,000 a year. If the family provider works only one week a month at minimum wage, he or she makes 92 percent as much as a provider grossing $60,000 a year.
http://granitegrok.com/wp-content/u..._With-welfare-it-makes-sense-to-work-less.pdf


From Emmerich:

You can do as well working one week a month at minimum wage as you can working $60,000-a-year, full-time, high-stress job.

My chart tells the story. It is pretty much self-explanatory.

Think politicians don't know this?

Welfare is simply a bribe given for the 'poor's' vote.

The whole time I was homeless, I wasn't getting anything. I supported myself by donating plasma twice a week. That was good for about 50 dollars a week,and day labor....when they had anything for me. Between that and all the soup lines and other charitable stuff, I squeaked by. But it's still something I would not want to go through again.

God Bless.

I'm thankful that you are one of those who has made it through such tribulations.


I know you're not saying that there is no governmental or non-profits nor religious organizations that would have helped....
...so I believe you are saying you broke through all on your own will and self discipline.


Am I correct in understanding that?

Self discipline? What's that? Actually, I hired an attorney to help push through my disability claim. Would have taken a lot longer without him.

 

[francoHFW]

The solution is better jobs- not this GOP crap, and no more New bs GOP presidents- with huge debt and corrupt bubbles/busts and STUPID wars and meddling...

 

[PoliticalChic]

Here is the misuse of the term 'poor' by this government:

"...46 percent of all poor households actually own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio."
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/221932/poor-politics/robert-rector

Well damn! I wish I was that poor.

Wait...it gets worse:

1. The 'poor' have more spendable money than many who work for a living, and support socialist expenditures:

"In 2012, the Heritage Foundation estimated how much assistance the average welfare recipient received. It found that on average, Americans who depend on federal assistance got the equivalent of $32,748 in annual benefits. That was more than the average American worker makes in a year. The median net wage in America in 2013 was $28,031."Dependent - theTrumpet.com

Startin' to feel like a sucker?




2. “In Entitlement America, The Head Of A Household Of Four Making Minimum Wage Has More Disposable Income Than A Family Making $60,000 A Year.” In it we merely explained what has become the painful reality in America: for increasingly more it is now more lucrative – in the form of actual disposable income – to sit, do nothing, and collect various welfare entitlements, than to work.

This is graphically, and very painfully confirmed, in the below chart from Gary Alexander, Secretary of Public Welfare, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (a state best known for its broke capital Harrisburg). As quantified and explained by Alexander, “the single mom is better off earning gross income of $29,000 with $57,327 in net income & benefits than to earn gross income of $69,000 with net income and benefits of $57,045.“
Poverty pays better than middle-class employment Human Events


a. You can do as well working one week a month at minimum wage as you can working $60,000-a-year, full-time, high-stress job.

WITH WELFARE IT MAKES SENSE TO WORK LESS,”
The chart is quite revealing. A one-parent family of three making $14,500 a year (minimum wage) has more disposable income than a family making $60,000 a year. If the family provider works only one week a month at minimum wage, he or she makes 92 percent as much as a provider grossing $60,000 a year.
http://granitegrok.com/wp-content/u..._With-welfare-it-makes-sense-to-work-less.pdf


From Emmerich:

You can do as well working one week a month at minimum wage as you can working $60,000-a-year, full-time, high-stress job.

My chart tells the story. It is pretty much self-explanatory.

Think politicians don't know this?

Welfare is simply a bribe given for the 'poor's' vote.

The whole time I was homeless, I wasn't getting anything. I supported myself by donating plasma twice a week. That was good for about 50 dollars a week,and day labor....when they had anything for me. Between that and all the soup lines and other charitable stuff, I squeaked by. But it's still something I would not want to go through again.

God Bless.

I'm thankful that you are one of those who has made it through such tribulations.


I know you're not saying that there is no governmental or non-profits nor religious organizations that would have helped....
...so I believe you are saying you broke through all on your own will and self discipline.


Am I correct in understanding that?

Here is the misuse of the term 'poor' by this government:

"...46 percent of all poor households actually own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio."
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/221932/poor-politics/robert-rector

Well damn! I wish I was that poor.

Wait...it gets worse:

1. The 'poor' have more spendable money than many who work for a living, and support socialist expenditures:

"In 2012, the Heritage Foundation estimated how much assistance the average welfare recipient received. It found that on average, Americans who depend on federal assistance got the equivalent of $32,748 in annual benefits. That was more than the average American worker makes in a year. The median net wage in America in 2013 was $28,031."Dependent - theTrumpet.com

Startin' to feel like a sucker?




2. “In Entitlement America, The Head Of A Household Of Four Making Minimum Wage Has More Disposable Income Than A Family Making $60,000 A Year.” In it we merely explained what has become the painful reality in America: for increasingly more it is now more lucrative – in the form of actual disposable income – to sit, do nothing, and collect various welfare entitlements, than to work.

This is graphically, and very painfully confirmed, in the below chart from Gary Alexander, Secretary of Public Welfare, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (a state best known for its broke capital Harrisburg). As quantified and explained by Alexander, “the single mom is better off earning gross income of $29,000 with $57,327 in net income & benefits than to earn gross income of $69,000 with net income and benefits of $57,045.“
Poverty pays better than middle-class employment Human Events


a. You can do as well working one week a month at minimum wage as you can working $60,000-a-year, full-time, high-stress job.

WITH WELFARE IT MAKES SENSE TO WORK LESS,”
The chart is quite revealing. A one-parent family of three making $14,500 a year (minimum wage) has more disposable income than a family making $60,000 a year. If the family provider works only one week a month at minimum wage, he or she makes 92 percent as much as a provider grossing $60,000 a year.
http://granitegrok.com/wp-content/u..._With-welfare-it-makes-sense-to-work-less.pdf


From Emmerich:

You can do as well working one week a month at minimum wage as you can working $60,000-a-year, full-time, high-stress job.

My chart tells the story. It is pretty much self-explanatory.

Think politicians don't know this?

Welfare is simply a bribe given for the 'poor's' vote.

The whole time I was homeless, I wasn't getting anything. I supported myself by donating plasma twice a week. That was good for about 50 dollars a week,and day labor....when they had anything for me. Between that and all the soup lines and other charitable stuff, I squeaked by. But it's still something I would not want to go through again.

God Bless.

I'm thankful that you are one of those who has made it through such tribulations.


I know you're not saying that there is no governmental or non-profits nor religious organizations that would have helped....
...so I believe you are saying you broke through all on your own will and self discipline.


Am I correct in understanding that?

Self discipline? What's that? Actually, I hired an attorney to help push through my disability claim. Would have taken a lot longer without him.

You were a homeless person, afflicted with poverty...but you "hired an attorney to help push through my disability claim."

Perhaps we each speak a different version of English.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The solution is better jobs- not this GOP crap, and no more New bs GOP presidents- with huge debt and corrupt bubbles/busts and STUPID wars and meddling...

And the pattern persists!

You post DNC lies, I utterly demolish them....and you amble off into another subject.


How about you simply admit that everything I post is true, correct and undeniable....but...you simply don't care: the admission would save some much time and effort for you and you could avoid lying.


OK?

 

[PoliticalChic]

AND.....let's remember:

The thread is based on NPR/Liberalism's view that the only way to achieve success is through the efforts of big government.

Not hard work, not an individual's decisions nor efforts.....only through appeasement of the great god, government.




The entire 33 minute NPR show can be listened to here:
Busted: America's Poverty Myths | WNYC



It actually states that success is based on luck, good fortune, and lucky breaks.....and actually claims that traditional values lower the chances of economic mobility:
The claim is made that virtue actually works counter to solving the problem of poverty.
That's right....NPR and Liberalism, Inc., actually strive for an America in which no one tries to be ethical and disciplined.


The reference is the study by Carol Stack, in her book "All Our Kin."..."This landmark study debunked the misconception that poor families were unstable and disorganized...."
"...traces the networks of kinship that poor people rely on to survive, by sharing funds and childcare, and basic goods...but those networks also impede upward mobilitybecausegood fortune is expected to be shared. Your choice, then, is to severe those bonds or to distribute the fruits of your lucky break...until it's too small to make a difference."
Busted: America's Poverty Myths | WNYC


An important show....it reveals the true doctrine of Liberalism: 'you didn't build that successful business...the collective did!'

 

[initforme]

A college eucation in a needed field is the answer. Then one can use that against their employer. That results in higher wages. Working for 12 bucks an hour is not making a living. A person will work harder for more money and less hard for less money. Higher paying jobs require higher education. That is the key.

 

[PoliticalChic]

A college eucation in a needed field is the answer. Then one can use that against their employer. That results in higher wages. Working for 12 bucks an hour is not making a living. A person will work harder for more money and less hard for less money. Higher paying jobs require higher education. That is the key.

I find that, more than frequently, you fail to focus on the question under discussion.

This is a case in point.

If you'd care to actually think about the juxtaposition between the view of Liberalism, vs the more traditional American view.....that which made America great....here is an opportunity to try again.


The thread is based on NPR/Liberalism's view that the only way to achieve success is through the efforts of big government.

Not hard work, not an individual's lifestyle decisions, nor efforts.....only through appeasement of the great god, government.




The entire 33 minute NPR show can be listened to here:
Busted: America's Poverty Myths | WNYC



NPR actually states that success is based on luck, good fortune, and lucky breaks.....and actually claims that traditional values lower the chances of economic mobility:
The claim is made that virtue actually works counter to solving the problem of poverty.
That's right....NPR and Liberalism, Inc., actually strive for an America in which no one tries to be ethical and disciplined.




The reference is the study by Carol Stack, in her book "All Our Kin."..."This landmark study debunked the misconception that poor families were unstable and disorganized...."
"...traces the networks of kinship that poor people rely on to survive, by sharing funds and childcare, and basic goods...but those networks also impede upward mobilitybecausegood fortune is expected to be shared. Your choice, then, is to severe those bonds or to distribute the fruits of your lucky break...until it's too small to make a difference."
Busted: America's Poverty Myths | WNYC


An important show....it reveals the true doctrine of Liberalism: 'you didn't build that successful business...the collective did!'

 

[RWNJ]

Well damn! I wish I was that poor.

Wait...it gets worse:

1. The 'poor' have more spendable money than many who work for a living, and support socialist expenditures:

"In 2012, the Heritage Foundation estimated how much assistance the average welfare recipient received. It found that on average, Americans who depend on federal assistance got the equivalent of $32,748 in annual benefits. That was more than the average American worker makes in a year. The median net wage in America in 2013 was $28,031."Dependent - theTrumpet.com

Startin' to feel like a sucker?




2. “In Entitlement America, The Head Of A Household Of Four Making Minimum Wage Has More Disposable Income Than A Family Making $60,000 A Year.” In it we merely explained what has become the painful reality in America: for increasingly more it is now more lucrative – in the form of actual disposable income – to sit, do nothing, and collect various welfare entitlements, than to work.

This is graphically, and very painfully confirmed, in the below chart from Gary Alexander, Secretary of Public Welfare, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (a state best known for its broke capital Harrisburg). As quantified and explained by Alexander, “the single mom is better off earning gross income of $29,000 with $57,327 in net income & benefits than to earn gross income of $69,000 with net income and benefits of $57,045.“
Poverty pays better than middle-class employment Human Events


a. You can do as well working one week a month at minimum wage as you can working $60,000-a-year, full-time, high-stress job.

WITH WELFARE IT MAKES SENSE TO WORK LESS,”
The chart is quite revealing. A one-parent family of three making $14,500 a year (minimum wage) has more disposable income than a family making $60,000 a year. If the family provider works only one week a month at minimum wage, he or she makes 92 percent as much as a provider grossing $60,000 a year.
http://granitegrok.com/wp-content/u..._With-welfare-it-makes-sense-to-work-less.pdf


From Emmerich:

You can do as well working one week a month at minimum wage as you can working $60,000-a-year, full-time, high-stress job.

My chart tells the story. It is pretty much self-explanatory.

Think politicians don't know this?

Welfare is simply a bribe given for the 'poor's' vote.

The whole time I was homeless, I wasn't getting anything. I supported myself by donating plasma twice a week. That was good for about 50 dollars a week,and day labor....when they had anything for me. Between that and all the soup lines and other charitable stuff, I squeaked by. But it's still something I would not want to go through again.

God Bless.

I'm thankful that you are one of those who has made it through such tribulations.


I know you're not saying that there is no governmental or non-profits nor religious organizations that would have helped....
...so I believe you are saying you broke through all on your own will and self discipline.


Am I correct in understanding that?

Well damn! I wish I was that poor.

Wait...it gets worse:

1. The 'poor' have more spendable money than many who work for a living, and support socialist expenditures:

"In 2012, the Heritage Foundation estimated how much assistance the average welfare recipient received. It found that on average, Americans who depend on federal assistance got the equivalent of $32,748 in annual benefits. That was more than the average American worker makes in a year. The median net wage in America in 2013 was $28,031."Dependent - theTrumpet.com

Startin' to feel like a sucker?




2. “In Entitlement America, The Head Of A Household Of Four Making Minimum Wage Has More Disposable Income Than A Family Making $60,000 A Year.” In it we merely explained what has become the painful reality in America: for increasingly more it is now more lucrative – in the form of actual disposable income – to sit, do nothing, and collect various welfare entitlements, than to work.

This is graphically, and very painfully confirmed, in the below chart from Gary Alexander, Secretary of Public Welfare, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (a state best known for its broke capital Harrisburg). As quantified and explained by Alexander, “the single mom is better off earning gross income of $29,000 with $57,327 in net income & benefits than to earn gross income of $69,000 with net income and benefits of $57,045.“
Poverty pays better than middle-class employment Human Events


a. You can do as well working one week a month at minimum wage as you can working $60,000-a-year, full-time, high-stress job.

WITH WELFARE IT MAKES SENSE TO WORK LESS,”
The chart is quite revealing. A one-parent family of three making $14,500 a year (minimum wage) has more disposable income than a family making $60,000 a year. If the family provider works only one week a month at minimum wage, he or she makes 92 percent as much as a provider grossing $60,000 a year.
http://granitegrok.com/wp-content/u..._With-welfare-it-makes-sense-to-work-less.pdf


From Emmerich:

You can do as well working one week a month at minimum wage as you can working $60,000-a-year, full-time, high-stress job.

My chart tells the story. It is pretty much self-explanatory.

Think politicians don't know this?

Welfare is simply a bribe given for the 'poor's' vote.

The whole time I was homeless, I wasn't getting anything. I supported myself by donating plasma twice a week. That was good for about 50 dollars a week,and day labor....when they had anything for me. Between that and all the soup lines and other charitable stuff, I squeaked by. But it's still something I would not want to go through again.

God Bless.

I'm thankful that you are one of those who has made it through such tribulations.


I know you're not saying that there is no governmental or non-profits nor religious organizations that would have helped....
...so I believe you are saying you broke through all on your own will and self discipline.


Am I correct in understanding that?

Self discipline? What's that? Actually, I hired an attorney to help push through my disability claim. Would have taken a lot longer without him.

You were a homeless person, afflicted with poverty...but you "hired an attorney to help push through my disability claim."

Perhaps we each speak a different version of English.

It didn't cost me anything to hire them. They did, however, take a significant chunk out of my first check. A couple of thousand, if I remember correctly.