George Will quits the Republican party

[Wry Catcher]

It's funny how long it was discussed and then when it happened you think it came out of the blue

Dude, there is no litmus test to be a Republican.

Republican is a party, not an ideology. You can be a liberal Republican or a conservative Republican. To be a Republican, you sign up. That's it.

Small Tent Republicans want a check-the-box litmus test, but being a member of a political party requires none of that.

Saying you are a member of the party doesn't make you one. Jake for example is clearly not a Republican. And why would he leave the party over Trump? Why not just vote for him? That he's "leaving" the party demonstrates my point

Wrong.

Anyone is a republican who says he’s a republican.

There are republicans who defend the privacy rights of women.

There are republicans who defend the right of gay Americans to marry.

There are republicans who defend the right of transgender Americans to express themselves freely.

And they do so because it’s consistent with the most fundamental of republican tenets: less government, enhanced individual liberty.

Sadly, the GOP lost that commitment to individual liberty decades ago, the consequence of the Faustian bargain struck with the social right, where the Party is now the enemy of individual liberty, having become authoritarian, reactionary, and repressive.

Gawd, liberals talking about anyone losing a "commitment to individual liberty" just stenches of hypocrisy. The IRS, Social Security and Obamacare are the greatest intruders on our personal liberty in the government, they make the NSA look like pikers

so little information at your disposal. you really should hang it up. you sound ridiculous.

He is ridiculous.

 

[kaz]

Kaz does not use terms and definitions professionally.

The original neo-cons, failed liberals of post-Vietnam, moved over to the GOP in the later eighties and nineties.

When Bush won the election, they knew with great joy the country was going to war and began looking for a cause.

I say every time that W is a neocon, dumb ass. I also said both parties are full of neocons. How do you get out of that I'm saying only Democrats are neocons? Obama took the traditional path of a Democrat liberal who fell in love with the military. W and Hillary seem to have just always been neocons.

I explained the term competently, which you merely misdefined. You lie if you think I said that you said only Dems are neo-cons. I am correcting your lack of knowledge as well as the mediocre application of it.

Hint: stopped filtering through the ideology of woo woo liberarianism and you might make more sense,

You defined the word wrong. Neocon has nothing to do with socon at all and they aren't specifically corporatist, they are just generally big government spenders.

Again, you think neocon means extremely conservative, and it actually is the reverse, it's a big government liberal like Obama and W who also have militaristic intervention into controlling other governments.

What is wrong with you, Jake? Why is forcing the wrong definition of a word good for you? You just like attacking Republicans with the word "neocon" and don't want to give it up because you like the way it sounds?

 

[regent]

Won't be long until evidence is uncovered that proves George Will was a communist and agent of the USSR.

 

[Wry Catcher]

kaz yet again reveals inability to analyze carefully. Will has not adopted either the neo-con or the far right political newcomers and their beliefs to the GOP over the last twenty years. He believes they do not hold core GOP beliefs. He is right.

Neocons are in both parties and the last two Presidents, one from each party, were both neocons. You still don't know what it means, do you, Jake? You think neocon means far right, that isn't what it means. Neo means new, Jake. They aren't cons. They are big government liberal spenders who use the military to push policy as both W and O did up to their armpits.

Stop the deflections.

We are talking about the GOP and its big liberal spending from 2001.

Trump will spend crazily. We know HRC will, but we can't do a thing about her,

Get out of the ME, stop the nonsense about gays and marriage, work on infrastructure, get the fed out of education, and start getting our people elected for the right reasons.

Stop using the term "neocon" until you learn what it means, Jake. It does not mean extremely conservative. Someone who's a fiscal conservative and strong on the military isn't a "neocon" they are just a "con." Neocon is a "new conservative," a big government liberal who falls in love with the military to impose our will on other governments and how they operate.

W and O are neocons, Hillary is a neocon. I don't know what Trump is, I'm not sure he does either. Labels are fine if they are accurate, but stop using them wrong, you just look like you don't know what you are talking about

Your spin won't turn. The neo cons were the signers of the PNAC Statement of Principles, read their names at the end of this document:

http://www.rrojasdatabank.info/pfpc/PNAC---statement of principles.pdf

Some signers whose names you might recognize:

• Dick Cheney
• Jeb Bush
• Scooter Libby
• Don Rumsfeld
• Paul Wolfowitz
• Steve Forbes
• William J. Bennet

All liberals?

Neocon is a word with a definition, it's not just a particular document. And again, neocons are liberal spenders. I don't know enough about their fiscal policies to know if they are all personally neocons, but the ones in the Bush Administration sure supported a neocon President.

Again, absolutely, W is a neocon. That's the one you get right. But so is O while Rush is not. When you understand the word, you will know why

Gee, thanks so much for sharing, VP Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Rumsfeld and Scooter Libby, et al need to be informed that they are liberals.

 

[kaz]

George Will, with Dick Armey and other good cons, did not support the invasion of Iraq.

Dumbum Zanderum misspoke yet again.

While Democrats like Hillary and Biden did

 

[kaz]

Won't be long until evidence is uncovered that proves George Will was a communist and agent of the USSR.

 

[kaz]

Neocons are in both parties and the last two Presidents, one from each party, were both neocons. You still don't know what it means, do you, Jake? You think neocon means far right, that isn't what it means. Neo means new, Jake. They aren't cons. They are big government liberal spenders who use the military to push policy as both W and O did up to their armpits.

Stop the deflections.

We are talking about the GOP and its big liberal spending from 2001.

Trump will spend crazily. We know HRC will, but we can't do a thing about her,

Get out of the ME, stop the nonsense about gays and marriage, work on infrastructure, get the fed out of education, and start getting our people elected for the right reasons.

Stop using the term "neocon" until you learn what it means, Jake. It does not mean extremely conservative. Someone who's a fiscal conservative and strong on the military isn't a "neocon" they are just a "con." Neocon is a "new conservative," a big government liberal who falls in love with the military to impose our will on other governments and how they operate.

W and O are neocons, Hillary is a neocon. I don't know what Trump is, I'm not sure he does either. Labels are fine if they are accurate, but stop using them wrong, you just look like you don't know what you are talking about

Your spin won't turn. The neo cons were the signers of the PNAC Statement of Principles, read their names at the end of this document:

http://www.rrojasdatabank.info/pfpc/PNAC---statement of principles.pdf

Some signers whose names you might recognize:

• Dick Cheney
• Jeb Bush
• Scooter Libby
• Don Rumsfeld
• Paul Wolfowitz
• Steve Forbes
• William J. Bennet

All liberals?

Neocon is a word with a definition, it's not just a particular document. And again, neocons are liberal spenders. I don't know enough about their fiscal policies to know if they are all personally neocons, but the ones in the Bush Administration sure supported a neocon President.

Again, absolutely, W is a neocon. That's the one you get right. But so is O while Rush is not. When you understand the word, you will know why

Gee, thanks so much for sharing, VP Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Rumsfeld and Scooter Libby, et al need to be informed that they are liberals.

Let's try reading my answer again and see if you can grasp it this time: "I don't know enough about their fiscal policies to know if they are all personally neocons, but the ones in the Bush Administration sure supported a neocon President."

 

[kaz]

Dude, there is no litmus test to be a Republican.

Republican is a party, not an ideology. You can be a liberal Republican or a conservative Republican. To be a Republican, you sign up. That's it.

Small Tent Republicans want a check-the-box litmus test, but being a member of a political party requires none of that.

Saying you are a member of the party doesn't make you one. Jake for example is clearly not a Republican. And why would he leave the party over Trump? Why not just vote for him? That he's "leaving" the party demonstrates my point

Wrong.

Anyone is a republican who says he’s a republican.

There are republicans who defend the privacy rights of women.

There are republicans who defend the right of gay Americans to marry.

There are republicans who defend the right of transgender Americans to express themselves freely.

And they do so because it’s consistent with the most fundamental of republican tenets: less government, enhanced individual liberty.

Sadly, the GOP lost that commitment to individual liberty decades ago, the consequence of the Faustian bargain struck with the social right, where the Party is now the enemy of individual liberty, having become authoritarian, reactionary, and repressive.

Gawd, liberals talking about anyone losing a "commitment to individual liberty" just stenches of hypocrisy. The IRS, Social Security and Obamacare are the greatest intruders on our personal liberty in the government, they make the NSA look like pikers

so little information at your disposal. you really should hang it up. you sound ridiculous.

He is ridiculous.

Ridiculous is the belief that democrats believe in individual liberty. You are authoritarian leftist collectivists

 

[ElmerMudd]

Yo, George Will has been a Hack for the Democrats for some time now!!!

Absolutely disgusting. Just like Trump, you are making fun of those with disabilities.

You do not get it. This is not about being politically correct, it is about being a good person and you obviously are not.

Have a child with a disability and see what you think of your disgustinfg words.

You don't understand.


Political Correctness is NOT about being political sensitive.

It is about using manufactured outrage to advance the lib agenda.

So, when someone using "retard" to attack a Trump supporter, it is OK.

We will make sure to establish Safe Zones so your feelings don't get hurt from microaggressions.

It is the feelings of a child or adult with disabilities that is no fault of their own.

You show signs of being a sociopath; someone who cannot empathize with the pain of others.
EVEN A CHILD WITH A DISABILITY.

The reason Correl and Toro are angry and disrespectful to people with disabilities is because they both lost jobs to people with a disability. Their employers found people with disabilities had better skills than they did.

They both want Trump to make sure people with disabilities do not take jobs away from them again.

 

[mudwhistle]

And so, from all this, we see reaffirmed the truth that, like apples, The Republican Party rots from the "core". But once you cut away the core you can make a really nice pie with an apple - and so with parties.

It's late morning so get out of your red jammies, old man.

The GOP core is solid. The grafts of neo-conservatism, social conservatism, and the far right wacks have been poisoning the healthy part of the tree Time to cut the grafts off.

James 15: 2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

Isaiah 5:6 I will lay it waste; It will not be pruned or hoed, But briars and thorns will come up I will also charge the clouds to rain no rain on it.

One thing is for certain......the Democrat Party is rotten to the core. Nothing in it is worth saving.

Bet saying that really pisses you off.

No, it does not piss me off. I sadly shake my head and pity you, for in this short little idiot-gram ^^^ you provide more evidence that you're a sheep who echoes right wing childlike insults. The DemocratIC Party is just fine, still a party which debates issues with a membership who vote their conscience, unlike the Republican Party, currently in war with its presumed nominee and filled with elected officials who vote as as they are told by their owners. Of course for the time being the D's and R's are the only game in town, though most of the self proclaimed conservatives on this site still believe their is no difference between the two.

There's nothing Democratic about your fucking party.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

It’s understood that obedience is expected by republicans to support their presidential nominee regardless who that might be.

Even weak nominees such as Dole or McCain warranted support by loyal members of the Party.

But Trump is neither Dole nor McCain – where at least some argument could be made that either Dole or McCain were at least minimally qualified to be president, that same argument cannot be made for Trump, who is clearly and in fact unqualified, and where many republicans consequently cannot support Trump, and appropriately so.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Kaz does not use terms and definitions professionally.

The original neo-cons, failed liberals of post-Vietnam, moved over to the GOP in the later eighties and nineties.

When Bush won the election, they knew with great joy the country was going to war and began looking for a cause.

I say every time that W is a neocon, dumb ass. I also said both parties are full of neocons. How do you get out of that I'm saying only Democrats are neocons? Obama took the traditional path of a Democrat liberal who fell in love with the military. W and Hillary seem to have just always been neocons.

I explained the term competently, which you merely misdefined. You lie if you think I said that you said only Dems are neo-cons. I am correcting your lack of knowledge as well as the mediocre application of it.

Hint: stopped filtering through the ideology of woo woo liberarianism and you might make more sense,

You defined the word wrong. Neocon has nothing to do with socon at all and they aren't specifically corporatist, they are just generally big government spenders.

Again, you think neocon means extremely conservative, and it actually is the reverse, it's a big government liberal like Obama and W who also have militaristic intervention into controlling other governments.

What is wrong with you, Jake? Why is forcing the wrong definition of a word good for you? You just like attacking Republicans with the word "neocon" and don't want to give it up because you like the way it sounds?

I said they were allied with the socons. Why do you misdefine words?

You simply don't read and think.

You are a woo libertarian clown.


The GOP is infected with neo-conservatism, kaz.

 

[JakeStarkey]

George Will, with Dick Armey and other good cons, did not support the invasion of Iraq.

Dumbum Zanderum misspoke yet again.

While Democrats like Hillary and Biden did

Why are so ready to defend neo-conservatism, Kaz? We have needed to bring our troops home long ago.

 

[JimH52]

That's not what she responded to. You're changing it again.

Obviously, you see no difference between conservative and Republican. Very telling.

Not really, it's actually the ability to discern context that you are lacking. Will has been attacking Republicans in ways that totally benefit Democrats for a long time. I didn't say he is a Democrat, I said he's not a Republican. And he's not consistently a conservative

kaz yet again reveals inability to analyze carefully. Will has not adopted either the neo-con or the far right political newcomers and their beliefs to the GOP over the last twenty years. He believes they do not hold core GOP beliefs. He is right.

Neocons are in both parties and the last two Presidents, one from each party, were both neocons. You still don't know what it means, do you, Jake? You think neocon means far right, that isn't what it means. Neo means new, Jake. They aren't cons. They are big government liberal spenders who use the military to push policy as both W and O did up to their armpits.

Stop the deflections.

We are talking about the GOP and its big liberal spending from 2001.

Trump will spend crazily. We know HRC will, but we can't do a thing about her,

Get out of the ME, stop the nonsense about gays and marriage, work on infrastructure, get the fed out of education, and start getting our people elected for the right reasons.

Stop using the term "neocon" until you learn what it means, Jake. It does not mean extremely conservative. Someone who's a fiscal conservative and strong on the military isn't a "neocon" they are just a "con." Neocon is a "new conservative," a big government liberal who falls in love with the military to impose our will on other governments and how they operate.

W and O are neocons, Hillary is a neocon. I don't know what Trump is, I'm not sure he does either. Labels are fine if they are accurate, but stop using them wrong, you just look like you don't know what you are talking about

You don't know what Donnie is, but you are prepared to vote for him. Well, Will knows what he is and he isn't voting for. Now, tell me who is clueless...

 

[Toro]

It is the feelings of a child or adult with disabilities that is no fault of their own.

You show signs of being a sociopath; someone who cannot empathize with the pain of others.
EVEN A CHILD WITH A DISABILITY.

Correl is a child with a disability?

 

[RandallFlagg]

Oh dear God!!! George Will QUIT!?!?! Tell me it ain't so....

 

[JakeStarkey]

kaz yet again reveals inability to analyze carefully. Will has not adopted either the neo-con or the far right political newcomers and their beliefs to the GOP over the last twenty years. He believes they do not hold core GOP beliefs. He is right.

Neocons are in both parties and the last two Presidents, one from each party, were both neocons. You still don't know what it means, do you, Jake? You think neocon means far right, that isn't what it means. Neo means new, Jake. They aren't cons. They are big government liberal spenders who use the military to push policy as both W and O did up to their armpits.

Stop the deflections.

We are talking about the GOP and its big liberal spending from 2001.

Trump will spend crazily. We know HRC will, but we can't do a thing about her,

Get out of the ME, stop the nonsense about gays and marriage, work on infrastructure, get the fed out of education, and start getting our people elected for the right reasons.

Stop using the term "neocon" until you learn what it means, Jake. It does not mean extremely conservative. Someone who's a fiscal conservative and strong on the military isn't a "neocon" they are just a "con." Neocon is a "new conservative," a big government liberal who falls in love with the military to impose our will on other governments and how they operate.

W and O are neocons, Hillary is a neocon. I don't know what Trump is, I'm not sure he does either. Labels are fine if they are accurate, but stop using them wrong, you just look like you don't know what you are talking about

Neo-con is an individual who is big on the projection of American power into targeted areas overseas using a combination of financial pressures, massive armed intervention, and huge government dollar outlays. They are people like Bush, Rumsfeld Cheney, Obama, Biden, Clinton, etc.

They were allied to the social cons and the corporatists.

They are using fools like you, Kaz. Trump is their man.

Ah, I thought you didn't know what a neocon is when in fact you made up your own definition, I stand corrected.

Neocon has nothing to do with social issues, jake. And I oppose socons, corporatists (they are a variation of socialists like you) and use of the military for non-defensive purposes, so how are the neocons you made up using me again?

Those are you silly words, you goof.

I said they were allied.

You really don't know what are the neo-cons, do you.

 

[RandallFlagg]

It’s understood that obedience is expected by republicans to support their presidential nominee regardless who that might be.

Even weak nominees such as Dole or McCain warranted support by loyal members of the Party.

But Trump is neither Dole nor McCain – where at least some argument could be made that either Dole or McCain were at least minimally qualified to be president, that same argument cannot be made for Trump, who is clearly and in fact unqualified, and where many republicans consequently cannot support Trump, and appropriately so.

What? No "fallacy" by the hypocrite?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Oh dear God!!! George Will QUIT!?!?! Tell me it ain't so....

And the GOP ends up this fall with Curly Bill.

 

[Zander]

George Will is a self important, pompous ass. Nobody cares what he says, thinks, or does. He is irrelevant.

IMHO, only morons or political neophytes believe in the left/right liberal/conservative democrat/republican paradigm.....it's a tool used by global elites to divide and conquer. But if you still like that game and enjoy being treated like a dumbfuck, vote for the haggard old grandma. She's a guarantee of more debt, more war, and a lot less freedom.