George Will quits the Republican party

[Zander]

You are witnessing a reckoning.

Yeah, that's a very good word for it.

What remains to be seen is what comes out the other side.
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Here's a clue...................

BREXIT!

 

[cereal_killer]

Will is about as Republican as Jake is. Who gives a shit where he goes.

That's fair and all, but if Trump loses, his supporters can't blame Will and those like him.

They've been treated like the enemy, so they can't be expected to show any loyalty.
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IMHO, people like George Will, Bill Kristol, and the rest of the establishment media whores are the enemy.

How should we treat the people that promote and advocate for politicians and political policies that lead us into unsustainable debt, endless war, and the constant erosion of our liberty and freedoms? Bake these fucks a cake?

Fair enough, my only point is that if you're gonna do this your way, you can't blame them for not going along with it.
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Trump supporters don't care if they go along with it is Zanders point. They want these neocons out on their ass where they belong. Nobody is shedding any tears if the establishment types/neocons don't support Trump or leave the party. They are irrelevant, they have no power, they have no pull, the party has been taken over by the American people.

 

[Mac1958]

That's fair and all, but if Trump loses, his supporters can't blame Will and those like him.

They've been treated like the enemy, so they can't be expected to show any loyalty.
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IMHO, people like George Will, Bill Kristol, and the rest of the establishment media whores are the enemy.

How should we treat the people that promote and advocate for politicians and political policies that lead us into unsustainable debt, endless war, and the constant erosion of our liberty and freedoms? Bake these fucks a cake?

Fair enough, my only point is that if you're gonna do this your way, you can't blame them for not going along with it.
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Sure I can.

Have you been assuming that they would give in and support Trump, then?

Even after they've been told they're the enemy?
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Why would I assume that? They are the enemy and have been for a very long time.

Trump doesn't need the help of "lapdog" neocons like George Will...

Okay, then I'm a little confused.

Let's say Trump loses. Would you blame Will and those like him, because they didn't vote for Trump?
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[Grizz]

Will is about as Republican as Jake is. Who gives a shit where he goes.

That's fair and all, but if Trump loses, his supporters can't blame Will and those like him.

They've been treated like the enemy, so they can't be expected to show any loyalty.
.

IMHO, people like George Will, Bill Kristol, and the rest of the establishment media whores are the enemy.

How should we treat the people that promote and advocate for politicians and political policies that lead us into unsustainable debt, endless war, and the constant erosion of our liberty and freedoms? Bake these fucks a cake?

Fair enough, my only point is that if you're gonna do this your way, you can't blame them for not going along with it.
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Trump supporters don't care if they go along with it is his point. They want these neocons out on their ass where they belong. Nobody is shedding any tears if the establishment types/neocons don't support Trump or leave the party. They are irrelevant, they have no power, they have no pull, the party has been taken over by the American people.

Well said.

 

[JakeStarkey]

True Republicans like Stein and me and so many big names don't give a shit about the Grizzes and the dumb asses of the far right, like Dumbum Zanderum.

Trump will not be president. The reckoning will be wreaked on Dangerous Donald and his dumbos. Watch what happens come the convention.

You guys will not get the power, not in November, not ever.

 

[regent]

The GOP tent is growing smaller,

 

[JakeStarkey]

After the election, the GOP will expand toward the center and recede from the far right.

 

[Grizz]

True Republicans like Stein and me and so many big names don't give a shit about the Grizzes and the dumb asses of the far right, like Dumbum Zanderum.

Trump will not be president. The reckoning will be wreaked on Dangerous Donald and his dumbos. Watch what happens the convention.

You guys will not get the power, not in November, not ever.

You are dismissed kid, you've been kicked to the curb by all of us dumbasses. You're out. I am Cruz guy, but if Trump is the nominee he will get my vote. You kids think you can pull a fast one at the Convention, boy are you in for a surprise.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Mod Edit: This post has been edited because it contains absolutely nothing on topic. Take the fights to FZ please.

 

[RandallFlagg]

And, in the meantime, while we argue about Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton -

The American people are watching as

(1) The Civil Forfeiture of money by the government against innocent victims goes on from 62,000 Americans because it can

(2) $500 billion goes out to "farmers" like Paul Allen, David Rockefeller, and Penny Pritzker - all Billionaires

(3) Each year the government makes aprox $120 billion in improper payments

(4) Duplication of programs each year - to the tune of $45 billion annually

(5) The DoD spent $500 million for planes for the Afghan Air Force that have never left the ground.

(6) Homeland Security spent $60 million for vehicles that have never been used.

(7) The IRS spent $11.6 million on Software that has never been installed

(8) Federal agencies spent nearly $50 million to the National Technical Information Service for information that is FREE online.

(9) Retired Congressmen and women are allowed to "double Dip" their salaries and pensions. For example: $253,323 in pension in addition to $174,000 Congressional salary.

(10) Cabinet members routinely pay upwards of $45,000 for "portraits" of themselves that hang in their offices.

(11) The DEA routinely pays informants working for AMTRAK to disclose passenger names. One employee earned a tidy $854,000 for his "cooperation"

(12) Congress assigned $652,000 to build a new visitor center between Talihina, OK and Mena, Arkansas even though there are already three.

(13) NASA allocated $3,000,000 to study how "Congress works"

(14) The NIH currently has a $500,000 research project to study why obese girls have fewer dates that skinny girls.

(15) The NIH also has a $330,000 to study the sex and drug habits of gay and transgender men in Peru.

(17) The NIH has another $371,000 study to determine if Mother's love their dogs as much as their kids.

(18) The National Science Foundation awarded Yale University $200,000 to study the "gender Bias" of Wikipedia.

(19) The NSF awarded $5.2 million to Columbia University to develop a video game called "Future Coast" to spur climate change study.

(20) The Department of Agriculture paid one coffee plantation in Hawaii $45,000 to use solar power to dry coffee beans - even though growers have been using the sun to dry beans for over 10,000 years.

Your country is being stolen from you America. WAKE THE HELL UP!!!!

 

[RandallFlagg]

True Republicans like Stein and me and so many big names don't give a shit about the Grizzes and the dumb asses of the far right, like Dumbum Zanderum.

Trump will not be president. The reckoning will be wreaked on Dangerous Donald and his dumbos. Watch what happens come the convention.

You guys will not get the power, not in November, not ever.

You're as much of a republican as I am a white guy....but you ARE funny....

 

[Grizz]

You are a toothless old bear, nothing more.

You've been kicked to the curb by us "dumbasses"

 

[Toro]

Will is about as Republican as Jake is. Who gives a shit where he goes.

That's fair and all, but if Trump loses, his supporters can't blame Will and those like him.

They've been treated like the enemy, so they can't be expected to show any loyalty.
.

IMHO, people like George Will, Bill Kristol, and the rest of the establishment media whores are the enemy.

How should we treat the people that promote and advocate for politicians and political policies that lead us into unsustainable debt, endless war, and the constant erosion of our liberty and freedoms? Bake these fucks a cake?

And yet, without a hint of irony, "Tea Party" supporters are backing the biggest statist, authoritarian liberal to have ever run as the Republican candidate in our lifetimes.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Cracks deepen inside troubled marriage of Trump and Republican party
Mitch McConnell declines to say if presumptive nominee is qualified and despite drop in polls campaign manager insists team ‘is getting organized’

 

[Toro]

IMHO, people like George Will, Bill Kristol, and the rest of the establishment media whores are the enemy.

How should we treat the people that promote and advocate for politicians and political policies that lead us into unsustainable debt, endless war, and the constant erosion of our liberty and freedoms? Bake these fucks a cake?

Fair enough, my only point is that if you're gonna do this your way, you can't blame them for not going along with it.
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Sure I can.

Have you been assuming that they would give in and support Trump, then?

Even after they've been told they're the enemy?
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Why would I assume that? They are the enemy and have been for a very long time.

Trump doesn't need the help of "lapdog" neocons like George Will...

Okay, then I'm a little confused.

Let's say Trump loses. Would you blame Will and those like him, because they didn't vote for Trump?
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They will blame everybody but themselves and Trump.

 

[kaz]

Kaz does not use terms and definitions professionally.

The original neo-cons, failed liberals of post-Vietnam, moved over to the GOP in the later eighties and nineties.

When Bush won the election, they knew with great joy the country was going to war and began looking for a cause.

I say every time that W is a neocon, dumb ass. I also said both parties are full of neocons. How do you get out of that I'm saying only Democrats are neocons? Obama took the traditional path of a Democrat liberal who fell in love with the military. W and Hillary seem to have just always been neocons.

I explained the term competently, which you merely misdefined. You lie if you think I said that you said only Dems are neo-cons. I am correcting your lack of knowledge as well as the mediocre application of it.

Hint: stopped filtering through the ideology of woo woo liberarianism and you might make more sense,

You defined the word wrong. Neocon has nothing to do with socon at all and they aren't specifically corporatist, they are just generally big government spenders.

Again, you think neocon means extremely conservative, and it actually is the reverse, it's a big government liberal like Obama and W who also have militaristic intervention into controlling other governments.

What is wrong with you, Jake? Why is forcing the wrong definition of a word good for you? You just like attacking Republicans with the word "neocon" and don't want to give it up because you like the way it sounds?

I said they were allied with the socons. Why do you misdefine words?

You simply don't read and think.

You are a woo libertarian clown.


The GOP is infected with neo-conservatism, kaz.

No shit, Dick Tracey, you're just such a hack Democrat you don't see the same thing on your side. You think when Democrats do the same as Republicans, it's OK.

And socon has nothing to do with neocon, it just doesn't, jake. There are lots of socons and non-socons who are neocons

 

[kaz]

George Will, with Dick Armey and other good cons, did not support the invasion of Iraq.

Dumbum Zanderum misspoke yet again.

While Democrats like Hillary and Biden did

Why are so ready to defend neo-conservatism, Kaz? We have needed to bring our troops home long ago.

Strawman, telling you that you don't know what a neocon is isn't defending neocons. The problem is you only attack the Republican ones, you're defending neocons, Jake, just the Democrat ones like Obama and Hillery

 

[Alex.]

Someone should stick a fork in the ass of that over hyped, self important clown. I did not know he was still relevant.

 

[kaz]

Neocons are in both parties and the last two Presidents, one from each party, were both neocons. You still don't know what it means, do you, Jake? You think neocon means far right, that isn't what it means. Neo means new, Jake. They aren't cons. They are big government liberal spenders who use the military to push policy as both W and O did up to their armpits.

Stop the deflections.

We are talking about the GOP and its big liberal spending from 2001.

Trump will spend crazily. We know HRC will, but we can't do a thing about her,

Get out of the ME, stop the nonsense about gays and marriage, work on infrastructure, get the fed out of education, and start getting our people elected for the right reasons.

Stop using the term "neocon" until you learn what it means, Jake. It does not mean extremely conservative. Someone who's a fiscal conservative and strong on the military isn't a "neocon" they are just a "con." Neocon is a "new conservative," a big government liberal who falls in love with the military to impose our will on other governments and how they operate.

W and O are neocons, Hillary is a neocon. I don't know what Trump is, I'm not sure he does either. Labels are fine if they are accurate, but stop using them wrong, you just look like you don't know what you are talking about

Neo-con is an individual who is big on the projection of American power into targeted areas overseas using a combination of financial pressures, massive armed intervention, and huge government dollar outlays. They are people like Bush, Rumsfeld Cheney, Obama, Biden, Clinton, etc.

They were allied to the social cons and the corporatists.

They are using fools like you, Kaz. Trump is their man.

Ah, I thought you didn't know what a neocon is when in fact you made up your own definition, I stand corrected.

Neocon has nothing to do with social issues, jake. And I oppose socons, corporatists (they are a variation of socialists like you) and use of the military for non-defensive purposes, so how are the neocons you made up using me again?

Those are you silly words, you goof.

I said they were allied.

You really don't know what are the neo-cons, do you.

Repeating what I say to you back to me, thanks! Says you have nothing else.

Sure, some neocons are allied with socons, but how are Obama and Hillary allied with socons? Again Jake, some are, some aren't. Socon has nothing to do with neocon

 

[Zander]

IMHO, people like George Will, Bill Kristol, and the rest of the establishment media whores are the enemy.

How should we treat the people that promote and advocate for politicians and political policies that lead us into unsustainable debt, endless war, and the constant erosion of our liberty and freedoms? Bake these fucks a cake?

Fair enough, my only point is that if you're gonna do this your way, you can't blame them for not going along with it.
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Sure I can.

Have you been assuming that they would give in and support Trump, then?

Even after they've been told they're the enemy?
.

Why would I assume that? They are the enemy and have been for a very long time.

Trump doesn't need the help of "lapdog" neocons like George Will...

Okay, then I'm a little confused.

Let's say Trump loses. Would you blame Will and those like him, because they didn't vote for Trump?
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Why would I "blame" anyone?