Give a man a fish.......

[kaz]

So government is responsible for greater life expectancy? Wow who knew?

Government puts the dill in the pickles, the cheese on the nachos and the fun in a barrel of monkeys.

Makes you wonder how human kind survived the millennia until Marx wrote the instruction manual in 1848, doesn't it?

Actually, humans did not survive well in 1848

It was not until the 1900s that government intervention doubled the life expectancy

And how did government do that?

 

[rightwinger]

Government puts the dill in the pickles, the cheese on the nachos and the fun in a barrel of monkeys.

Makes you wonder how human kind survived the millennia until Marx wrote the instruction manual in 1848, doesn't it?

Actually, humans did not survive well in 1848

It was not until the 1900s that government intervention doubled the life expectancy

And how did government do that?

Prior to 1900 a primary cause of death was contaminated water supplies and poor sanitation. This led to plagues and epidemics that killed millions. We also had contaminated food supplies.
Access to medical care was also sporatic at best. Innoculations were minimal. Many workers were killed on the job or subjected to hazardous chemicals and dust/fibers that shortened their lives

All were corrected by government intervention and our life expectancy has since doubled

 

[kaz]

Actually, humans did not survive well in 1848

It was not until the 1900s that government intervention doubled the life expectancy

And how did government do that?

Prior to 1900 a primary cause of death was contaminated water supplies and poor sanitation. This led to plagues and epidemics that killed millions. We also had contaminated food supplies.
Access to medical care was also sporatic at best. Innoculations were minimal. Many workers were killed on the job or subjected to hazardous chemicals and dust/fibers that shortened their lives

All were corrected by government intervention and our life expectancy has since doubled

LOL, your knowledge of history is so low, that's why I ask you these questions. What grade did you drop out of school?

 

[Redfish]

Actually, humans did not survive well in 1848

It was not until the 1900s that government intervention doubled the life expectancy

And how did government do that?

Prior to 1900 a primary cause of death was contaminated water supplies and poor sanitation. This led to plagues and epidemics that killed millions. We also had contaminated food supplies.
Access to medical care was also sporatic at best. Innoculations were minimal. Many workers were killed on the job or subjected to hazardous chemicals and dust/fibers that shortened their lives

All were corrected by government intervention and our life expectancy has since doubled

private industry and innovation with the profit motive resulted in cures for diseases and ways to eliminate pollution. All the govt ever did was get in the way.

Do you think the drug companies developed life saving drugs because of govt actions??? No, they did it to make money because they recognized a supply and demand situation and "capitalized" on it.

 

[PratchettFan]

I think this thread is a perfect example of the differences between people. some of us will think up ways around any problem we face, the others will make excuses of why we can't do something.

The point is that for some people the deck is stacked so that your simplistic solutions are not that easy

Go get a job is easy advise except for those who live in an area with no jobs

Move to where the jobs are is easy advise except for those who lack the nestegg to reestablish in a new location

Yes. The deck is stacked against everyone in some way. That is the luck of the draw and it doesn't remove a person's responsibility for themselves. The government can and should provide assistance, but it is not there to guarantee success.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Give a man a fish, and he will:

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[rightwinger]

And how did government do that?

Prior to 1900 a primary cause of death was contaminated water supplies and poor sanitation. This led to plagues and epidemics that killed millions. We also had contaminated food supplies.
Access to medical care was also sporatic at best. Innoculations were minimal. Many workers were killed on the job or subjected to hazardous chemicals and dust/fibers that shortened their lives

All were corrected by government intervention and our life expectancy has since doubled

private industry and innovation with the profit motive resulted in cures for diseases and ways to eliminate pollution. All the govt ever did was get in the way.

Do you think the drug companies developed life saving drugs because of govt actions??? No, they did it to make money because they recognized a supply and demand situation and "capitalized" on it.

Private industry did not build public water and sewer systems. They did not crack down on those contaminating our water and air. They did not set the standards for our food supplies. They did not enforce quarantines. They did not set worker safety standards

 

[Warrior102]

Private industry did not build public water and sewer systems. They did not crack down on those contaminating our water and air. They did not set the standards for our food supplies. They did not enforce quarantines. They did not set worker safety standards

Spoken like a loyal brownshirt.

 

[rightwinger]

Private industry did not build public water and sewer systems. They did not crack down on those contaminating our water and air. They did not set the standards for our food supplies. They did not enforce quarantines. They did not set worker safety standards

Spoken like a loyal brownshirt.

History is now Nazism?

Care to rebutt?

 

[Avatar4321]

Private industry did not build public water and sewer systems. They did not crack down on those contaminating our water and air. They did not set the standards for our food supplies. They did not enforce quarantines. They did not set worker safety standards

Spoken like a loyal brownshirt.

History is now Nazism?

Care to rebutt?

What is there to rebutt? All you did was ask two questions, one of which was "care to rebutt" and the other having absolutely nothing to do with what he said.

 

[kaz]

Prior to 1900 a primary cause of death was contaminated water supplies and poor sanitation. This led to plagues and epidemics that killed millions. We also had contaminated food supplies.
Access to medical care was also sporatic at best. Innoculations were minimal. Many workers were killed on the job or subjected to hazardous chemicals and dust/fibers that shortened their lives

All were corrected by government intervention and our life expectancy has since doubled

private industry and innovation with the profit motive resulted in cures for diseases and ways to eliminate pollution. All the govt ever did was get in the way.

Do you think the drug companies developed life saving drugs because of govt actions??? No, they did it to make money because they recognized a supply and demand situation and "capitalized" on it.

Private industry did not build public water and sewer systems. They did not crack down on those contaminating our water and air. They did not set the standards for our food supplies. They did not enforce quarantines. They did not set worker safety standards

And those things alone did not double life expectancy

 

[rightwinger]

private industry and innovation with the profit motive resulted in cures for diseases and ways to eliminate pollution. All the govt ever did was get in the way.

Do you think the drug companies developed life saving drugs because of govt actions??? No, they did it to make money because they recognized a supply and demand situation and "capitalized" on it.

Private industry did not build public water and sewer systems. They did not crack down on those contaminating our water and air. They did not set the standards for our food supplies. They did not enforce quarantines. They did not set worker safety standards

And those things alone did not double life expectancy

Feel free to chime in

 

[KissMy]

private industry and innovation with the profit motive resulted in cures for diseases and ways to eliminate pollution. All the govt ever did was get in the way.

Do you think the drug companies developed life saving drugs because of govt actions??? No, they did it to make money because they recognized a supply and demand situation and "capitalized" on it.

Private industry did not build public water and sewer systems. They did not crack down on those contaminating our water and air. They did not set the standards for our food supplies. They did not enforce quarantines. They did not set worker safety standards

And those things alone did not double life expectancy

Clean water, sewer, air, soil, safe food, healthcare, workplace, highways, land air & sea transportation, cities schools, etc created by government all did a lot to increase life expectancy, quality of life & living standards.

Ignorant bitches like you taking tax money from government tit sucking Booz Allen did nothing but steal money from wealth creating workers & lower living standards.

 

[kaz]

Private industry did not build public water and sewer systems. They did not crack down on those contaminating our water and air. They did not set the standards for our food supplies. They did not enforce quarantines. They did not set worker safety standards

And those things alone did not double life expectancy

Clean water, sewer, air, soil, safe food, healthcare, workplace, highways, land air & sea transportation, cities schools, etc created by government all did a lot to increase life expectancy, quality of life & living standards.

Ignorant bitches like you taking tax money from government tit sucking Booz Allen did nothing but steal money from wealth creating workers & lower living standards.

I worked in Booz Allen's commercial practice, I didn't work in the government practice.

 

[kaz]

Private industry did not build public water and sewer systems. They did not crack down on those contaminating our water and air. They did not set the standards for our food supplies. They did not enforce quarantines. They did not set worker safety standards

And those things alone did not double life expectancy

Feel free to chime in

There are a lot of reasons, very few of them have to do with government. You should sit in the DMV for an afternoon observing government workers in action. It would rock your world.

 

[The Rabbi]

And those things alone did not double life expectancy

Feel free to chime in

There are a lot of reasons, very few of them have to do with government. You should sit in the DMV for an afternoon observing government workers in action. It would rock your world.

What do you think he does for a living?

Medical advances, vaccines, penicillin, canning, refrigeration,e tc etc. All were major contributors. Government strangely absent from pretty much all of it.

 

[Redfish]

Prior to 1900 a primary cause of death was contaminated water supplies and poor sanitation. This led to plagues and epidemics that killed millions. We also had contaminated food supplies.
Access to medical care was also sporatic at best. Innoculations were minimal. Many workers were killed on the job or subjected to hazardous chemicals and dust/fibers that shortened their lives

All were corrected by government intervention and our life expectancy has since doubled

private industry and innovation with the profit motive resulted in cures for diseases and ways to eliminate pollution. All the govt ever did was get in the way.

Do you think the drug companies developed life saving drugs because of govt actions??? No, they did it to make money because they recognized a supply and demand situation and "capitalized" on it.

Private industry did not build public water and sewer systems. They did not crack down on those contaminating our water and air. They did not set the standards for our food supplies. They did not enforce quarantines. They did not set worker safety standards

private industry found the methods to clean up polluted water and air. Private industry built water and sewer systems---mostly with local tax money, not federal money.

anti pollution laws were good. No one wants pollution. Who ever said they wanted polluted air and water???? answer: no one. As usual you post dem/lib lies as if they are truth. Its called being a lying piece of shit.

 

[rightwinger]

private industry and innovation with the profit motive resulted in cures for diseases and ways to eliminate pollution. All the govt ever did was get in the way.

Do you think the drug companies developed life saving drugs because of govt actions??? No, they did it to make money because they recognized a supply and demand situation and "capitalized" on it.

Private industry did not build public water and sewer systems. They did not crack down on those contaminating our water and air. They did not set the standards for our food supplies. They did not enforce quarantines. They did not set worker safety standards

private industry found the methods to clean up polluted water and air. Private industry built water and sewer systems---mostly with local tax money, not federal money.

anti pollution laws were good. No one wants pollution. Who ever said they wanted polluted air and water???? answer: no one. As usual you post dem/lib lies as if they are truth. Its called being a lying piece of shit.

What?

It was private industry who polluted our air and water for profit. Tax money is the same as federal money. It is the government using tax dollars to help all the people

 

[Avatar4321]

I see the choice as this: We can figure out our problems and help our neighbors do the same with theirs or we can make excuses about why we can't do it and outsource our problems to the government to fix.

Which do you think is going to fix our problems?

 

[Redfish]

Private industry did not build public water and sewer systems. They did not crack down on those contaminating our water and air. They did not set the standards for our food supplies. They did not enforce quarantines. They did not set worker safety standards

private industry found the methods to clean up polluted water and air. Private industry built water and sewer systems---mostly with local tax money, not federal money.

anti pollution laws were good. No one wants pollution. Who ever said they wanted polluted air and water???? answer: no one. As usual you post dem/lib lies as if they are truth. Its called being a lying piece of shit.

What?

It was private industry who polluted our air and water for profit. Tax money is the same as federal money. It is the government using tax dollars to help all the people

some of it was greed, some was ignorance. In the early 1900s everyone believed that we could dump whatever we wanted into the ocean and it would just go away.

you are trying to couple the result with some prior intent i.e. "lets dump our waste in the river so we can make more money while destroying the river" No one ever thought or said that.