GOP introduces bill to cut Social Security

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/...-massively-cut-social-security-222200857.html

If Ryan puts this up for a vote, and McConnell too, and they do not includes massive cuts to the salary and benefits of members of Congress, members of the Supreme Court and to all elected and appointed members of the executive, from US Marshalls, US Attorney's and Federal Judges, we will have seen a Reactionary Revolution and the death of the American Dream.

The power elite will have created a coup, making the United States into the first nation to go from the most powerful and free nation in the world, to a third world nation governed by Plutocrats and Authoritarians who will reside in gated communities and pass draconian laws slowly eroding the Bill of Rights.

Michigan is already passing laws to make voting more difficult, a certain attempt to protect the GOP in future elections.

Wake up people, it can and will happen here.
Social Security is a socialist entitlement program that the country can no longer afford... fact
That is not a fact at all. SS required adjustments periodically like any long term program would. It has been adjusted in the past ^& will need adjustments in the future.
It's best if people are just allowed to opt out of Social Security Medicare or Medicaid… fact
 
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/...-massively-cut-social-security-222200857.html

If Ryan puts this up for a vote, and McConnell too, and they do not included massive cuts to the salary and benefits of members of Congress, members of the Supreme Court and to all elected and appointed members of the executive, from US Marshalls, US Attorney's and Federal Judges, we will have seen a Reactionary Revolution and the death of the American Dream.

The power elite will have created a coup, making the United States into the first nation to go from the most powerful and free nation in the world, to a third world nation governed by Plutocrats and Authoritarians who will reside in gated communities and pass draconian laws slowly eroding the Bill of Rights.

Michigan is already passing laws to make voting more difficult, a certain attempt to protect the GOP in future elections.

Wake up people, it can and will happen here.

They didn't introduce a bill, liar. They proposed a plan, but no bill has been introduced. You don't know the difference, do you? And Social Security will drive the country into bankruptcy, stop being a partisan hack and care for your country once

JFK: Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country

WryCatcher: Gimme, baby ...

Your anger and bias prevents your ability to comprehend a simple post. That's on you. Your first sentence [They didn't introduce a bill, liar.] is both an ad hominem and not true.

Have someone you trust read my post s l o w l y and maybe you will understand no where in my post did I write that a bill had been submitted to Ryan or McConnell.

Grow up Kaz, your little game is boring and makes you out to be a fool (which I don't mean to suggest you aren't one).

Whoa there cowboy, wow, I hit a nerve. Calm down there. This is just an internet discussion. Maybe you should ask your mommy for some cookies and milk and try to calm down.

And seriously ... again ... YOU DID NOT READ YOUR OWN LINK. Stop being a stupid fuck and at least read your own links. Who is Chuck Jones, that was classic. Now you changed "plan" to "bill." You didn't even have to read the link, just the title

Kaz is a lying piece of shit. The link in the OP is proof.
 
Why do the Republicans hate Social Security so much? They have fought it from drawing board until now, but with Trump the Republicans feel this is their best chance to change it or even begin dropping the program.
It is a socialist entitlement program along with Medicare/Medicaid... those things being forced on the population is bullshit. All along it should've been just a Opt in if you want to participate.
 
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/...-massively-cut-social-security-222200857.html

If Ryan puts this up for a vote, and McConnell too, and they do not includes massive cuts to the salary and benefits of members of Congress, members of the Supreme Court and to all elected and appointed members of the executive, from US Marshalls, US Attorney's and Federal Judges, we will have seen a Reactionary Revolution and the death of the American Dream.

The power elite will have created a coup, making the United States into the first nation to go from the most powerful and free nation in the world, to a third world nation governed by Plutocrats and Authoritarians who will reside in gated communities and pass draconian laws slowly eroding the Bill of Rights.

Michigan is already passing laws to make voting more difficult, a certain attempt to protect the GOP in future elections.

Wake up people, it can and will happen here.


Oh boy, fake news. I didn't have to read past the first line at the link to know it's fake. Care to speculate how I know.

Umm, your head is up your ass?


Really, from your link: My bold

On Thursday, Rep. Sam Johnson, a Republican from Texas and chair of the Ways and Means Committee, introduced legislation to significantly cut Social Security.


Johnson is NOT the CHAIR of way and means, Kevin Brady is. Johnson is a subcommittee chair.

Not shit, which is why the op begins with this statement,

"If Ryan puts this up for a vote, and McConnell too..." Read the OP, do your homework before making yourself to be a fool by believing the lying POS Kaz.
 
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/...-massively-cut-social-security-222200857.html

If Ryan puts this up for a vote, and McConnell too, and they do not includes massive cuts to the salary and benefits of members of Congress, members of the Supreme Court and to all elected and appointed members of the executive, from US Marshalls, US Attorney's and Federal Judges, we will have seen a Reactionary Revolution and the death of the American Dream.

The power elite will have created a coup, making the United States into the first nation to go from the most powerful and free nation in the world, to a third world nation governed by Plutocrats and Authoritarians who will reside in gated communities and pass draconian laws slowly eroding the Bill of Rights.

Michigan is already passing laws to make voting more difficult, a certain attempt to protect the GOP in future elections.

Wake up people, it can and will happen here.
Social Security is a socialist entitlement program that the country can no longer afford... fact
That is not a fact at all. SS required adjustments periodically like any long term program would. It has been adjusted in the past ^& will need adjustments in the future.
It's best if people are just allowed to opt out of Social Security Medicare or Medicaid… fact
Only if when you get old & can't pay your own way, you get dumped in the ocean.

But no, the government will have to step in & the rest of us pay.
 
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/...-massively-cut-social-security-222200857.html

If Ryan puts this up for a vote, and McConnell too, and they do not includes massive cuts to the salary and benefits of members of Congress, members of the Supreme Court and to all elected and appointed members of the executive, from US Marshalls, US Attorney's and Federal Judges, we will have seen a Reactionary Revolution and the death of the American Dream.

The power elite will have created a coup, making the United States into the first nation to go from the most powerful and free nation in the world, to a third world nation governed by Plutocrats and Authoritarians who will reside in gated communities and pass draconian laws slowly eroding the Bill of Rights.

Michigan is already passing laws to make voting more difficult, a certain attempt to protect the GOP in future elections.

Wake up people, it can and will happen here.
Social Security is a socialist entitlement program that the country can no longer afford... fact
That is not a fact at all. SS required adjustments periodically like any long term program would. It has been adjusted in the past ^& will need adjustments in the future.
It's best if people are just allowed to opt out of Social Security Medicare or Medicaid… fact
Then, for those who don't make it, we end up supporting them for life through OUR taxes - not theirs.

You're forgetting that we're still relatively close to the Bush crash of the economy. Too many people lost their homes. Too many have had to empty their retirement accounts.

Also, as was CLEARLY pointed out during the Bush years when he attempted to make SS optional, there is NO WAY of affording any kind of significant move of people away from SS. Remember how SS is funded?
 
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/...-massively-cut-social-security-222200857.html

If Ryan puts this up for a vote, and McConnell too, and they do not includes massive cuts to the salary and benefits of members of Congress, members of the Supreme Court and to all elected and appointed members of the executive, from US Marshalls, US Attorney's and Federal Judges, we will have seen a Reactionary Revolution and the death of the American Dream.

The power elite will have created a coup, making the United States into the first nation to go from the most powerful and free nation in the world, to a third world nation governed by Plutocrats and Authoritarians who will reside in gated communities and pass draconian laws slowly eroding the Bill of Rights.

Michigan is already passing laws to make voting more difficult, a certain attempt to protect the GOP in future elections.

Wake up people, it can and will happen here.


Oh boy, fake news. I didn't have to read past the first line at the link to know it's fake. Care to speculate how I know.

Umm, your head is up your ass?


Really, from your link: My bold

On Thursday, Rep. Sam Johnson, a Republican from Texas and chair of the Ways and Means Committee, introduced legislation to significantly cut Social Security.


Johnson is NOT the CHAIR of way and means, Kevin Brady is. Johnson is a subcommittee chair.

Not shit, which is why the op begins with this statement,

"If Ryan puts this up for a vote, and McConnell too..." Read the OP, do your homework before making yourself to be a fool by believing the lying POS Kaz.

Only thing I looked at was the first sentence in your link, it was wrong, I didn't read any further. I saw no point since the first so called fact in the article wasn't a fact at all.

So when do you think this vote will take place, if it happens at all?
 
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/...-massively-cut-social-security-222200857.html

If Ryan puts this up for a vote, and McConnell too, and they do not includes massive cuts to the salary and benefits of members of Congress, members of the Supreme Court and to all elected and appointed members of the executive, from US Marshalls, US Attorney's and Federal Judges, we will have seen a Reactionary Revolution and the death of the American Dream.

The power elite will have created a coup, making the United States into the first nation to go from the most powerful and free nation in the world, to a third world nation governed by Plutocrats and Authoritarians who will reside in gated communities and pass draconian laws slowly eroding the Bill of Rights.

Michigan is already passing laws to make voting more difficult, a certain attempt to protect the GOP in future elections.

Wake up people, it can and will happen here.

They didn't introduce a bill, liar. They proposed a plan, but no bill has been introduced. You don't know the difference, do you? And Social Security will drive the country into bankruptcy, stop being a partisan hack and care for your country once

JFK: Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country

WryCatcher: Gimme, baby ...

From the link:

On Thursday, Rep. Sam Johnson, a Republican from Texas and chair of the Ways and Means Committee, introduced legislation to significantly cut Social Security.

The bill introduced by Johnson, who is also the chair of the Social Security subcommittee, slashes benefits, adds means testing, and would raise the retirement age from 67 to 69.

For most workers, the bill would cut Social Security benefits substantially. As Michael Linden, associate director for tax and budget policy at Center for American Progress, pointed out on Twitter, a letter from Social Security’s Office of the Actuary calculated workers making around $50,000 would see checks shrink by between 11% and 35%.

KAZ IS A LYING PIECE OF SHIT.

Your link: GOP introduces plan to massively cut Social Security
You: GOP introduces bill to cut Social Security
 
Don't believe every story from the media, go to the actual source, such as in this case the text of the bill, to find the real truth. Even stories originating from either party about the other party, research it from the source they claim to be espousing about.

And for whatever reason your link to
Text - H.R.6489 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): To preserve Social Security for generations to come, reward work, and improve retirement security.
doesn't show the text of the bill, but Sam Johnson's page does-

http://samjohnson.house.gov/uploadedfiles/social_security_reform_act_bill_text.pdf





https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/...-massively-cut-social-security-222200857.html

If Ryan puts this up for a vote, and McConnell too, and they do not included massive cuts to the salary and benefits of members of Congress, members of the Supreme Court and to all elected and appointed members of the executive, from US Marshalls, US Attorney's and Federal Judges, we will have seen a Reactionary Revolution and the death of the American Dream.

The power elite will have created a coup, making the United States into the first nation to go from the most powerful and free nation in the world, to a third world nation governed by Plutocrats and Authoritarians who will reside in gated communities and pass draconian laws slowly eroding the Bill of Rights.

Michigan is already passing laws to make voting more difficult, a certain attempt to protect the GOP in future elections.

Wake up people, it can and will happen here.

They didn't introduce a bill, liar. They proposed a plan, but no bill has been introduced. You don't know the difference, do you? And Social Security will drive the country into bankruptcy, stop being a partisan hack and care for your country once

JFK: Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country

WryCatcher: Gimme, baby ...

Your anger and bias prevents your ability to comprehend a simple post. That's on you. Your first sentence [They didn't introduce a bill, liar.] is both an ad hominem and not true.

Have someone you trust read my post s l o w l y and maybe you will understand no where in my post did I write that a bill had been submitted to Ryan or McConnell.

Grow up Kaz, your little game is boring and makes you out to be a fool (which I don't mean to suggest you aren't one).

Whoa there cowboy, wow, I hit a nerve. Calm down there. This is just an internet discussion. Maybe you should ask your mommy for some cookies and milk and try to calm down.

And seriously ... again ... YOU DID NOT READ YOUR OWN LINK. Stop being a stupid fuck and at least read your own links. Who is Chuck Jones, that was classic. Now you changed "plan" to "bill." You didn't even have to read the link, just the title

Kaz is a lying piece of shit. The link in the OP is proof.
 
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/...-massively-cut-social-security-222200857.html

If Ryan puts this up for a vote, and McConnell too, and they do not includes massive cuts to the salary and benefits of members of Congress, members of the Supreme Court and to all elected and appointed members of the executive, from US Marshalls, US Attorney's and Federal Judges, we will have seen a Reactionary Revolution and the death of the American Dream.

The power elite will have created a coup, making the United States into the first nation to go from the most powerful and free nation in the world, to a third world nation governed by Plutocrats and Authoritarians who will reside in gated communities and pass draconian laws slowly eroding the Bill of Rights.

Michigan is already passing laws to make voting more difficult, a certain attempt to protect the GOP in future elections.

Wake up people, it can and will happen here.

Yep, it sounds like Social Security is on the chopping block. Where is AARP on this?

Top House Republican Unveils Plan To Gut Social Security

Are Republicans Crazy Enough to Go After The Safety Net?
 
Its hard to save when wages are as awful as they are. Impossible.

Teachers are posting stories online that students who receive free breakfast and lunches through their schools, start panicking before long breaks, because they don't know how or where they're going to eat during the break, even if their parents both work.

Paul Ryan just gave a speech saying that free breakfast and lunch programs for poor students, breaks their soul. In other words, let 'em starve.

You voted for these people to help you succeed. This is the kind of help you can expect.
 
Don't believe every story from the media, go to the actual source, such as in this case the text of the bill, to find the real truth. Even stories originating from either party about the other party, research it from the source they claim to be espousing about.

And for whatever reason your link to
Text - H.R.6489 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): To preserve Social Security for generations to come, reward work, and improve retirement security.
doesn't show the text of the bill, but Sam Johnson's page does-

http://samjohnson.house.gov/uploadedfiles/social_security_reform_act_bill_text.pdf





https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/...-massively-cut-social-security-222200857.html

If Ryan puts this up for a vote, and McConnell too, and they do not included massive cuts to the salary and benefits of members of Congress, members of the Supreme Court and to all elected and appointed members of the executive, from US Marshalls, US Attorney's and Federal Judges, we will have seen a Reactionary Revolution and the death of the American Dream.

The power elite will have created a coup, making the United States into the first nation to go from the most powerful and free nation in the world, to a third world nation governed by Plutocrats and Authoritarians who will reside in gated communities and pass draconian laws slowly eroding the Bill of Rights.

Michigan is already passing laws to make voting more difficult, a certain attempt to protect the GOP in future elections.

Wake up people, it can and will happen here.

They didn't introduce a bill, liar. They proposed a plan, but no bill has been introduced. You don't know the difference, do you? And Social Security will drive the country into bankruptcy, stop being a partisan hack and care for your country once

JFK: Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country

WryCatcher: Gimme, baby ...

Your anger and bias prevents your ability to comprehend a simple post. That's on you. Your first sentence [They didn't introduce a bill, liar.] is both an ad hominem and not true.

Have someone you trust read my post s l o w l y and maybe you will understand no where in my post did I write that a bill had been submitted to Ryan or McConnell.

Grow up Kaz, your little game is boring and makes you out to be a fool (which I don't mean to suggest you aren't one).

Whoa there cowboy, wow, I hit a nerve. Calm down there. This is just an internet discussion. Maybe you should ask your mommy for some cookies and milk and try to calm down.

And seriously ... again ... YOU DID NOT READ YOUR OWN LINK. Stop being a stupid fuck and at least read your own links. Who is Chuck Jones, that was classic. Now you changed "plan" to "bill." You didn't even have to read the link, just the title

Kaz is a lying piece of shit. The link in the OP is proof.
There are plenty of sites that offer analysis.

I'm certainly happy if people can manage to dig out what this bill says, of course. But, most individuals don't have the context required.
 
Well, not everybody thinks like you! This was a social contract between government, and the citizens. The government FORCED people and business to pay into it in workers names, and for allowing that to happen, they promised a benefit. If they do not want to solve the problem, then they need not run for office.

I do not know how old you are, but I am old enough to remember being WARNED over, and over, and over again, that if the government did not stop spending the SS fund to help balance the budget, the country would be screwed. It has come to pass! And guess what happened to virtually EVERY politician who tried to fix it! That is correct, they either lost, or if in office, got thrown out. Politicians spun it all away, just like they spin the debt today.

Social security will NOT go broke, take that to the bank. But, what we all better hope gets fixed is medicare. People say what is the difference! Let me tell you------------>if they can print money in QE, they can print money to prop up SS long enough if they change the rules. They can't do that with medicare! The only way they can do it without a REAL fix, is FORCE doctors and nurses to work for LESS, while forcing them to take patients they may not want. That is the essence of socialism, period! Medicare is healthcare. Healthcare is 1/6th of the economy. With the baby-boomers retiring in droves, their use of medical services will be a large part of that 1/6th of the economy. Remember, SS is not a large part of the economy, so it can be propped up. Medicare can NOT without a financial solution.
I am 47 years old, and I will never see a penny back… fact
I just don't want to pay until a failed concept anymore.

There is already more people taking out than paying in, it should be a choice from here on out if you want Social Security and pay into it, fine... but don't make people that want nothing to do with it pay into it

You didn't read this link:

5 facts about Social Security

I didn't expect you to read it, so please continue to post ignorant statements. It is sadly quit funny.
I read your link, the problem is it should not be a mandatory program. If it was any good people would want to pay into it and participate.
It would be much better if it was just a choice to pay/participate it.

For any large social program to work, it has to be mandatory. The very people who need it most, are the first to opt out. 95% of all people save NOTHING for retirement and end up on welfare, or otherwise being a burden to society. This ensures every working American will have some income when the day arrives that they can't work.
That is why socialist entitlement programs do not work, it brings out the worst in people and absolutely the worst in the federal government. It gives them a perfect Avenue to control the population… Fact

Bullshit. My government pension money is my travel money. As a Canadian, I receive maximum Canada Pension (minimum of 40 years full employment), Old Age Pension, government healthcare, including prescription coverage. There are means tested programs for assistance with utility costs, supplemental OAS for those with low/no pensions, and an array of free/low cost services to seniors to help them live independently.

Such programs give me more freedom after working for a living all my adult life, and raising a family, than I've ever known. I need a knee replacement which I'm having done after Christmas. Waiting time - 2 weeks. I wanted to delay until after Christmas.
 
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/...-massively-cut-social-security-222200857.html

If Ryan puts this up for a vote, and McConnell too, and they do not includes massive cuts to the salary and benefits of members of Congress, members of the Supreme Court and to all elected and appointed members of the executive, from US Marshalls, US Attorney's and Federal Judges, we will have seen a Reactionary Revolution and the death of the American Dream.

The power elite will have created a coup, making the United States into the first nation to go from the most powerful and free nation in the world, to a third world nation governed by Plutocrats and Authoritarians who will reside in gated communities and pass draconian laws slowly eroding the Bill of Rights.

Michigan is already passing laws to make voting more difficult, a certain attempt to protect the GOP in future elections.

Wake up people, it can and will happen here.


I'll wait and see, the media has a bad record of heaping bullshit on Republicans........
 
Its hard to save when wages are as awful as they are. Impossible.

Teachers are posting stories online that students who receive free breakfast and lunches through their schools, start panicking before long breaks, because they don't know how or where they're going to eat during the break, even if their parents both work.

Paul Ryan just gave a speech saying that free breakfast and lunch programs for poor students, breaks their soul. In other words, let 'em starve.

You voted for these people to help you succeed. This is the kind of help you can expect.
AMEN!!

My daughter taught middle school in inner city Chicago under one of the volunteer programs while she was getting an advanced degree.

Food at school was a huge deal. A significant percent of her students arrived on Mondays very hungry. Vacations were worse.

These idiots in congress make laws that have serious ramifications for these children. They seem to think every kid in America lives in a family built like some TV sit com.

Two of my daughter's kids lived in an abandoned house across from the school. One of the parents would drop off food there sometimes. But, these middle school kids weren't always able to protect what they got.
 
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/...-massively-cut-social-security-222200857.html

If Ryan puts this up for a vote, and McConnell too, and they do not includes massive cuts to the salary and benefits of members of Congress, members of the Supreme Court and to all elected and appointed members of the executive, from US Marshalls, US Attorney's and Federal Judges, we will have seen a Reactionary Revolution and the death of the American Dream.

The power elite will have created a coup, making the United States into the first nation to go from the most powerful and free nation in the world, to a third world nation governed by Plutocrats and Authoritarians who will reside in gated communities and pass draconian laws slowly eroding the Bill of Rights.

Michigan is already passing laws to make voting more difficult, a certain attempt to protect the GOP in future elections.

Wake up people, it can and will happen here.


I'll wait and see, the media has a bad record of heaping bullshit on Republicans........
Maybe because Republican create the shit that is being reported.
 
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/...-massively-cut-social-security-222200857.html

If Ryan puts this up for a vote, and McConnell too, and they do not includes massive cuts to the salary and benefits of members of Congress, members of the Supreme Court and to all elected and appointed members of the executive, from US Marshalls, US Attorney's and Federal Judges, we will have seen a Reactionary Revolution and the death of the American Dream.

The power elite will have created a coup, making the United States into the first nation to go from the most powerful and free nation in the world, to a third world nation governed by Plutocrats and Authoritarians who will reside in gated communities and pass draconian laws slowly eroding the Bill of Rights.

Michigan is already passing laws to make voting more difficult, a certain attempt to protect the GOP in future elections.

Wake up people, it can and will happen here.

They didn't introduce a bill, liar. They proposed a plan, but no bill has been introduced. You don't know the difference, do you? And Social Security will drive the country into bankruptcy, stop being a partisan hack and care for your country once

JFK: Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country

WryCatcher: Gimme, baby ...

From the link:

On Thursday, Rep. Sam Johnson, a Republican from Texas and chair of the Ways and Means Committee, introduced legislation to significantly cut Social Security.

The bill introduced by Johnson, who is also the chair of the Social Security subcommittee, slashes benefits, adds means testing, and would raise the retirement age from 67 to 69.

For most workers, the bill would cut Social Security benefits substantially. As Michael Linden, associate director for tax and budget policy at Center for American Progress, pointed out on Twitter, a letter from Social Security’s Office of the Actuary calculated workers making around $50,000 would see checks shrink by between 11% and 35%.

KAZ IS A LYING PIECE OF SHIT.

Your link: GOP introduces plan to massively cut Social Security
You: GOP introduces bill to cut Social Security

BFD, you're not only a liar, you're stupid.

Your comprehension is that of a concrete thinker, had you read the link you might have understood, that you did not is on you.
 
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/...-massively-cut-social-security-222200857.html

If Ryan puts this up for a vote, and McConnell too, and they do not includes massive cuts to the salary and benefits of members of Congress, members of the Supreme Court and to all elected and appointed members of the executive, from US Marshalls, US Attorney's and Federal Judges, we will have seen a Reactionary Revolution and the death of the American Dream.

The power elite will have created a coup, making the United States into the first nation to go from the most powerful and free nation in the world, to a third world nation governed by Plutocrats and Authoritarians who will reside in gated communities and pass draconian laws slowly eroding the Bill of Rights.

Michigan is already passing laws to make voting more difficult, a certain attempt to protect the GOP in future elections.

Wake up people, it can and will happen here.


I'll wait and see, the media has a bad record of heaping bullshit on Republicans........
Maybe because Republican create the shit that is being reported.
except it's been wrong and we have emails showing they collude with democrats and plant shit all the time.
 
Why do the Republicans hate Social Security so much? They have fought it from drawing board until now, but with Trump the Republicans feel this is their best chance to change it or even begin dropping the program.
It is a socialist entitlement program along with Medicare/Medicaid... those things being forced on the population is bullshit. All along it should've been just a Opt in if you want to participate.
As soon as Republicans fix Social Security they'll begin work on all our taxes,
 

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