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When the Government FORCES an American to work and give up some of the revenue so the Government can help an American...that is not an American Helping American....that is Government taking and then giving.
When I donate money to the local senior center; donate my time to the local shelter; donate food to the local soup kitchen....that is an American Helping an American
When was the last time a person on welfare thanked the taxpayer?
Actually that is called the system of taxation. There is no viable alternative in a society.
So of course you'd be against the only option because that makes sense
There actually is an alternative, but you aren't really interested in it. You're happy to loot people of their property.
That bucket is becoming something the size of the Atlantic Ocean at this point.The analogy I fall back on is that of a bucket. We constantly pour water (tax revenues) into our bucket trying to get it up to the desired level but we've got gaping holes in our bucket (waste) and no matter how much water we pour in...it simply runs out that much quicker.
Now an intelligent person would step back and say "Whoa...before we pour any more water into that bucket...let's fix those holes!" The unintelligent person shouts that person down and says "We just need more water and we'll be fine!"
You aren't taking care of the elderly, disabled, and needy. You're taxing them into poverty.
LOL, the mental backflips you must have to do to justify contradicting yourself with every breath you take must be exhausting.
So you aren't taxing people into poverty?
And stating the truth is never exhausting. It's lying that gets exhausted. See. When you tell the truth, you don't have to remember your story. You just say things as they are. When you are lying you have to remember every detail you've said to keep your story straight. Which is why most liars get caught.
If you didn't take as much money from people, there would be far less poor, regardless of age. We would be in a far better position to take care of one another and support ourselves.
that's the uppity of some people
many people have become successful without going to college...and many people stayed stupid with a college degree if you don't have "common sense" to go with it
And you have neither a degree or an ounce of intelligence.
But it's ok you're still poor and vote against your own interests, so at least you have that going for you.
How is allowing politicians and bureaucrats to rob our neighbors in our best interests?
You aren't taking care of the elderly, disabled, and needy. You're taxing them into poverty.
LOL, the mental backflips you must have to do to justify contradicting yourself with every breath you take must be exhausting.
You're the one doing mental back flips. How else does one justify liberalism?
You think you're a great guy, right?
You see someone in need and you instantly think "I should help them," so you rob your neighbors to give the needy person the spoils.
Have you EVER spent even a dime out of your own pocket? Or is supporting high taxes to take from others your only form of charity?
Don't bother answering, we all know the answer.
It's interesting that you feel that taxes which are clearly constitutional is equal to robbery.
Which country do you pledge allegiance to, because it's clearly not this country.
Robbery is robbery, whether the Constitution allows it or not.
I certainly don't pledge allegiance to the current government of the United States. I can't imagine anyone being that servile.
plutocracy noun \plü-ˈtä-krə-sē\
: government by the richest people
: a country that is ruled by the richest people
That's the right wing goal. For some reason, Republicans trust corporations with a profit motive over the government we elect into office and at the same time screaming "we want freedom". Why? So they can give it away to corporations? At least with our government, you can vote people into and out of office. Once corporations are in charge, they will never let go. Only as long as we have a government we elect into office will we have even a sliver of freedom.
As you may have read, I am a big believer that we live in a plutocracy. Government of the rich, by the rich, for the rich.
But I never ever get a right wing wack job on here to contest that we live in a plutocracy.
Either they don't know what it is. Or they don't care. Or they agree and don't want to admit it. And I see no way to change it without a strong group of populists coming forward to bring about change. And that ain't happening. Liz Warren and Bernie can't do it by themselves.
But at least we live in a nice plutocracy. So far.
The term is absolutely meaningless. Any country that has rich people could be labeled a "plutocracy." Dims like you throw it around because you think it makes you sound sophisticated and smart, and because it's a cheap shot at the rich. Can you name a single country that isn't ruled by rich people? Can you post a definition of the term that distinguishes countries that are plutocracies from those that aren't?
As you may have read, I am a big believer that we live in a plutocracy. Government of the rich, by the rich, for the rich.
But I never ever get a right wing wack job on here to contest that we live in a plutocracy.
Either they don't know what it is. Or they don't care. Or they agree and don't want to admit it. And I see no way to change it without a strong group of populists coming forward to bring about change. And that ain't happening. Liz Warren and Bernie can't do it by themselves.
But at least we live in a nice plutocracy. So far.
The term is absolutely meaningless. Any country that has rich people could be labeled a "plutocracy." Dims like you throw it around because you think it makes you sound sophisticated and smart, and because it's a cheap shot at the rich. Can you name a single country that isn't ruled by rich people? Can you post a definition of the term that distinguishes countries that are plutocracies from those that aren't?
Government of the rich, by the rich, for the rich. Does not need to recognize any form of government as long as the money is controlled by a small group of people.
Now every country in the world, no matter the form of government, has this situation to some extent or another. You think plutocrats wanting to rule the world only happened in long ago history?
It's just that in America, we tried to avoid that situation to some extent. We didn't really want a "ruling class" in this country. Worked for a while, but things are swinging the way of the plutocrats at the present.
You see the amount of wealth of the world controlled by just a few people? The amount of wealth in this country controlled by just a few people.
Funny thing about you is that while you recognize that plutocracies exist around the world, you seem to be in favor of them. At your expense. Why is that? You just like ultra rich people?
The world, and life experience is a wonderful teacher...all you need do is pay attention.States shouldn't "train" anyone. This is brought out by the liberal belief that college is the end all be all of everything. it's not.
It's embarrassing that someone in America would diss higher education.
People like that need to get out of the way of the 21st Century.
It's embarrassing that anyone would think paying for a piece of paper is "higher education". It's also embarrassing that anyone should think the only way to educate oneself is to go to a university.
I also would point out that Education isn't "job training". Education is learning about the world around us solely for the sake of learning about the world around us. Some of it is very useful in a career. Some of it just makes us a better person.
I didn't study European history for job training. I studied it because it's interesting (all history is really). Most people don't study music theory for job training, but because they want to learn about music. Most people don't study philosophy to get job training, they do so to understand ideas, thoughts, etc.
I don't think rdean has a clue what education really is. He thinks getting a degree shows that you are educated and smart. It doesn't. It doesn't hurt. But it doesn't guarantee anything.
The term is absolutely meaningless. Any country that has rich people could be labeled a "plutocracy." Dims like you throw it around because you think it makes you sound sophisticated and smart, and because it's a cheap shot at the rich. Can you name a single country that isn't ruled by rich people? Can you post a definition of the term that distinguishes countries that are plutocracies from those that aren't?
Government of the rich, by the rich, for the rich. Does not need to recognize any form of government as long as the money is controlled by a small group of people.
Now every country in the world, no matter the form of government, has this situation to some extent or another. You think plutocrats wanting to rule the world only happened in long ago history?
It's just that in America, we tried to avoid that situation to some extent. We didn't really want a "ruling class" in this country. Worked for a while, but things are swinging the way of the plutocrats at the present.
You see the amount of wealth of the world controlled by just a few people? The amount of wealth in this country controlled by just a few people.
Funny thing about you is that while you recognize that plutocracies exist around the world, you seem to be in favor of them. At your expense. Why is that? You just like ultra rich people?
so what the fuck you going to do about it Zeke?...both parties have nothing but the anointed run.....if a third party person comes along who is just a "normal" person....he gets the "dont vote for him....you are wasting your vote" treatment...he gets edged out because he aint got the money to hang with the big guys....even if that person is a better candidate.......if attitudes dont change....nothing will,its just going to get worse....
The term is absolutely meaningless. Any country that has rich people could be labeled a "plutocracy." Dims like you throw it around because you think it makes you sound sophisticated and smart, and because it's a cheap shot at the rich. Can you name a single country that isn't ruled by rich people? Can you post a definition of the term that distinguishes countries that are plutocracies from those that aren't?
Government of the rich, by the rich, for the rich. Does not need to recognize any form of government as long as the money is controlled by a small group of people.
Now every country in the world, no matter the form of government, has this situation to some extent or another. You think plutocrats wanting to rule the world only happened in long ago history?
It's just that in America, we tried to avoid that situation to some extent. We didn't really want a "ruling class" in this country. Worked for a while, but things are swinging the way of the plutocrats at the present.
You see the amount of wealth of the world controlled by just a few people? The amount of wealth in this country controlled by just a few people.
Funny thing about you is that while you recognize that plutocracies exist around the world, you seem to be in favor of them. At your expense. Why is that? You just like ultra rich people?
so what the fuck you going to do about it Zeke?...both parties have nothing but the anointed run.....if a third party person comes along who is just a "normal" person....he gets the "dont vote for him....you are wasting your vote" treatment...he gets edged out because he aint got the money to hang with the big guys....even if that person is a better candidate.......if attitudes dont change....nothing will,its just going to get worse....
I also would point out that Education isn't "job training". Education is learning about the world around us solely for the sake of learning about the world around us. Some of it is very useful in a career. Some of it just makes us a better person.
I didn't study European history for job training. I studied it because it's interesting (all history is really). Most people don't study music theory for job training, but because they want to learn about music. Most people don't study philosophy to get job training, they do so to understand ideas, thoughts, etc.
I don't think rdean has a clue what education really is. He thinks getting a degree shows that you are educated and smart. It doesn't. It doesn't hurt. But it doesn't guarantee anything.
ed·u·ca·tion [ej-oo-key-shuhn]
noun
1.
the act or process of imparting or acquiring general knowledge, developing the powers of reasoning and judgment, and generally of preparing oneself or others intellectually for mature life.
2.
the act or process of imparting or acquiring particular knowledge or skills, as for a profession.
3.
a degree, level, or kind of schooling: a university education.
4.
the result produced by instruction, training, or study
Education | Define Education at Dictionary.com
Definition of "Job Training":
A method of preparing an employee to perform a task by providing them with information about the task, a demonstration of its performance, an opportunity for the employee to imitate the demonstration and subsequent feedback. Many business operators feel that effective job training makes an important contribution to their company's success.
What is job training? definition and meaning
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Wow, look at that. Turns out there are many forms of "education" including "job training". This is why Republicans can't compete against immigrants with degrees. They don't even know what education is and without that knowledge, "job training" won't "take". These days, not all jobs are "work hard and dig ditches". These days, for a good job, you need "skills". Skills you get from, well, some would call it "education", others would call it "job training". Turns out that job training is one of the many forms of education.
Consider this a "teaching moment".
Normal person? Like someone who was on food stamps as a kid? Who took out student loans to go to college and paid them all off after writing two best sellers? I wouldn't call that "normal". I would call someone like that a person who worked hard and succeeded. I would even vote for someone like that. Turns out I already did, twice.
Normal person? Like someone who was on food stamps as a kid? Who took out student loans to go to college and paid them all off after writing two best sellers? I wouldn't call that "normal". I would call someone like that a person who worked hard and succeeded. I would even vote for someone like that. Turns out I already did, twice.
Who the fuck was that?
Certainly not Barack Obama, who went to the finest prep schools, had a silver spoon up his ass, and was ushered through life by a hoard of sycophants who declared him the great black (or should that be "red") hope?
Normal person? Like someone who was on food stamps as a kid? Who took out student loans to go to college and paid them all off after writing two best sellers? I wouldn't call that "normal". I would call someone like that a person who worked hard and succeeded. I would even vote for someone like that. Turns out I already did, twice.
Who the fuck was that?
Certainly not Barack Obama, who went to the finest prep schools, had a silver spoon up his ass, and was ushered through life by a hoard of sycophants who declared him the great black (or should that be "red") hope?
wow, I wouldn't admit I was duped by someone I voted for
but there it is for all to see...he voted for a man who won, liar of the year, made up most of his life as being some black child who was actually raised by rich white grandparents.....and wrote two books even though he had never accomplished anything outstanding...gawd help us all these people vote
Any wonder Obama refuses to release his records? It would expose him for the fraud he is.Who the fuck was that?
Certainly not Barack Obama, who went to the finest prep schools, had a silver spoon up his ass, and was ushered through life by a hoard of sycophants who declared him the great black (or should that be "red") hope?
wow, I wouldn't admit I was duped by someone I voted for
but there it is for all to see...he voted for a man who won, liar of the year, made up most of his life as being some black child who was actually raised by rich white grandparents.....and wrote two books even though he had never accomplished anything outstanding...gawd help us all these people vote
Yes, but he also presented Obama as rising from poverty, which is an utter and complete lie. Lolo Soetero was a multimillionaire. Obama's grand parent is Hawaii were quite well to do. His mother was a whore, and went slumming. She may have drawn food stamps, but Barry never went without.
Obama lived a life of wealth and privilege and was groomed to be a ruler from the time he was young. Communist intellectuals were chosen to guide him on his path to the top. Dean is flat out lying about the student loans, Obama had a full ride scholarship to Harvard. There is no record of Obama paying a single dime on the Occidental education. It appears some mysterious benefactor took care of it.
Normal person? Like someone who was on food stamps as a kid? Who took out student loans to go to college and paid them all off after writing two best sellers? I wouldn't call that "normal". I would call someone like that a person who worked hard and succeeded. I would even vote for someone like that. Turns out I already did, twice.
Who the fuck was that?
Certainly not Barack Obama, who went to the finest prep schools, had a silver spoon up his ass, and was ushered through life by a hoard of sycophants who declared him the great black (or should that be "red") hope?
wow, I wouldn't admit I was duped by someone I voted for
but there it is for all to see...he voted for a man who won, liar of the year, made up most of his life as being some black child who was actually raised by rich white grandparents.....and wrote two books even though he had never accomplished anything outstanding...gawd help us all these people vote
Any wonder Obama refuses to release his records? It would expose him for the fraud he is.wow, I wouldn't admit I was duped by someone I voted for
but there it is for all to see...he voted for a man who won, liar of the year, made up most of his life as being some black child who was actually raised by rich white grandparents.....and wrote two books even though he had never accomplished anything outstanding...gawd help us all these people vote
Yes, but he also presented Obama as rising from poverty, which is an utter and complete lie. Lolo Soetero was a multimillionaire. Obama's grand parent is Hawaii were quite well to do. His mother was a whore, and went slumming. She may have drawn food stamps, but Barry never went without.
Obama lived a life of wealth and privilege and was groomed to be a ruler from the time he was young. Communist intellectuals were chosen to guide him on his path to the top. Dean is flat out lying about the student loans, Obama had a full ride scholarship to Harvard. There is no record of Obama paying a single dime on the Occidental education. It appears some mysterious benefactor took care of it.
