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Spoonman, you know better. Really, dude, you made me sad.
Privatizing Social Security takes it out of the government's hands. That means that a private company makes decisions for you and you can't vote that company out, you can't do anything. You have NO representation.
Further, the companies make money from the investments. They charge the SS accounts investment fees, plus with the amount of stock they can buy using every working American's money they can manipulate the stock market - cheat, in other words, and that's highly illegal.
But the biggest fail with privatization comes with the inevitable - within the next 40 years there will be another September 2008, another October 1929. Do you honestly think that level of risk is something old people should be forced into?
plutocracy noun \plü-ˈtä-krə-sē\
: government by the richest people
: a country that is ruled by the richest people
Plutocracy - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
That's the right wing goal. For some reason, Republicans trust corporations with a profit motive over the government we elect into office and at the same time screaming "we want freedom". Why? So they can give it away to corporations? At least with our government, you can vote people into and out of office. Once corporations are in charge, they will never let go. Only as long as we have a government we elect into office will we have even a sliver of freedom.
As you may have read, I am a big believer that we live in a plutocracy. Government of the rich, by the rich, for the rich.
But I never ever get a right wing wack job on here to contest that we live in a plutocracy.
Either they don't know what it is. Or they don't care. Or they agree and don't want to admit it. And I see no way to change it without a strong group of populists coming forward to bring about change. And that ain't happening. Liz Warren and Bernie can't do it by themselves.
But at least we live in a nice plutocracy. So far.
Is that what Red States do to Blue States?
USMB right wingers falsely claim this has been debunked, but Politifact says otherwise.
Awwww, thats cute, you think its a typo.
When you get a base of followers who quite frankly aren't very intelligent and you compound that with the fact that they are gullible and anything but open minded, you get the modern day republican base. This is why you hear words like socialism, communism and comparisons made to Hitler on a regular basis. These terms have no relation whatsoever to modern day democats/liberals but these people have been convinced, rather easily, that liberals are actually their enemy and are somehow related to these boogeyman terms they throw around and clearly don't understand.
you get the same shit with a lot of the Far Left....look at Hungover....ever read that assholes threads?....in many of his threads he sounds just like the people on the right he cant stand....
What is the far left? How do you distinguish far left from just the regular left. I'd love to know who you would consider far left and who is just left.
And what am I sponging off of you exactly?
Only in your twisted world is taking the property of others to control them "Americans helping Americans".
Americans help Americans without the government every day.
Only in your twisted world would you view helping the elderly, disabled and needy as taking something from you.
Only in your twisted world is taking the property of others to control them "Americans helping Americans".
Americans help Americans without the government every day.
States shouldn't "train" anyone. This is brought out by the liberal belief that college is the end all be all of everything. it's not.
It's embarrassing that someone in America would diss higher education.
People like that need to get out of the way of the 21st Century.
Only in your twisted world is taking the property of others to control them "Americans helping Americans".
Americans help Americans without the government every day.
Really? When was the last time everyone with money in Kentucky helped out their poorer citizens in Coal Country?
Oh yeah, never.
That's the whole point of welfare, medicare, social security, and the ACA. If you knew anything about life in the 1960s you'd be furious at how the elderly were treated back then.
People are still being treated like shit. Without government intervention they would suffer and die - most of them children and the elderly.
Meanwhile, I've waited over a year to hear a single rightie speak out against corporate welfare. It's okay to subsidize billionaires, because ... why?
privatization is still SS, it's not getting rid of it
Spoonman, you know better. Really, dude, you made me sad.
Privatizing Social Security takes it out of the government's hands. That means that a private company makes decisions for you and you can't vote that company out, you can't do anything. You have NO representation.
Further, the companies make money from the investments. They charge the SS accounts investment fees, plus with the amount of stock they can buy using every working American's money they can manipulate the stock market - cheat, in other words, and that's highly illegal.
But the biggest fail with privatization comes with the inevitable - within the next 40 years there will be another September 2008, another October 1929. Do you honestly think that level of risk is something old people should be forced into?
plutocracy noun \plü-ˈtä-krə-sē\
: government by the richest people
: a country that is ruled by the richest people
Plutocracy - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
That's the right wing goal. For some reason, Republicans trust corporations with a profit motive over the government we elect into office and at the same time screaming "we want freedom". Why? So they can give it away to corporations? At least with our government, you can vote people into and out of office. Once corporations are in charge, they will never let go. Only as long as we have a government we elect into office will we have even a sliver of freedom.
It's embarrassing that someone in America would diss higher education.
People like that need to get out of the way of the 21st Century.
SS is not bankrupt, that's just a lie that no one believes, from the far right puppetmasters.
Name one person that lost everything 9/08 that's a multimillionaire now. I'm particularly interested in your finding one over the age of 65.
As you may have read, I am a big believer that we live in a plutocracy. Government of the rich, by the rich, for the rich.
But I never ever get a right wing wack job on here to contest that we live in a plutocracy.
Either they don't know what it is. Or they don't care. Or they agree and don't want to admit it. And I see no way to change it without a strong group of populists coming forward to bring about change. And that ain't happening. Liz Warren and Bernie can't do it by themselves.
But at least we live in a nice plutocracy. So far.
The term is absolutely meaningless. Any country that has rich people could be labeled a "plutocracy." Dims like you throw it around because you think it makes you sound sophisticated and smart, and because it's a cheap shot at the rich. Can you name a single country that isn't ruled by rich people? Can you post a definition of the term that distinguishes countries that are plutocracies from those that aren't?
Some people inherited their money. Some got it from shaky underhanded deals. Some worked hard and played by the rules. Just having money doesn't make them "special".
States shouldn't "train" anyone. This is brought out by the liberal belief that college is the end all be all of everything. it's not.
It's embarrassing that someone in America would diss higher education.
People like that need to get out of the way of the 21st Century.
It's embarrassing that anyone would think paying for a piece of paper is "higher education". It's also embarrassing that anyone should think the only way to educate oneself is to go to a university.
I have a college degree and the libs call me stupid all the time. 'Educated' means agreeing with them.that's the uppity of some people
many people have become successful without going to college...and many people stayed stupid with a college degree if you don't have "common sense" to go with it
And what am I sponging off of you exactly?
You think you're a great guy, right?
You see someone in need and you instantly think "I should help them," so you rob your neighbors to give the needy person the spoils.
Have you EVER spent even a dime out of your own pocket? Or is supporting high taxes to take from others your only form of charity?
Don't bother answering, we all know the answer.
Only in your twisted world is taking the property of others to control them "Americans helping Americans".
Americans help Americans without the government every day.
Only in your twisted world would you view helping the elderly, disabled and needy as taking something from you.
You aren't taking care of the elderly, disabled, and needy. You're taxing them into poverty.
It's embarrassing that someone in America would diss higher education.
People like that need to get out of the way of the 21st Century.
It's embarrassing that anyone would think paying for a piece of paper is "higher education". It's also embarrassing that anyone should think the only way to educate oneself is to go to a university.
that's the uppity of some people
many people have become successful without going to college...and many people stayed stupid with a college degree if you don't have "common sense" to go with it
Only in your twisted world would you view helping the elderly, disabled and needy as taking something from you.
You aren't taking care of the elderly, disabled, and needy. You're taxing them into poverty.
LOL, the mental backflips you must have to do to justify contradicting yourself with every breath you take must be exhausting.
It's embarrassing that anyone would think paying for a piece of paper is "higher education". It's also embarrassing that anyone should think the only way to educate oneself is to go to a university.
that's the uppity of some people
many people have become successful without going to college...and many people stayed stupid with a college degree if you don't have "common sense" to go with it
And you have neither a degree or an ounce of intelligence.
But it's ok you're still poor and vote against your own interests, so at least you have that going for you.
