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It was rather tactless, but in it lies a certain truth. You shouldn't shield people from their failures. Doing that leads to a false sense of entitlement. Those who have never tasted failure should be made to. Life isn't a bed of roses. What we lack the courage to do, is let poor people find a way for themselves; instead of letting the government lead them by the hand down an endless road, with no clear destination in sight.
Remind us what incentivizes you to stay unemployed.
And how has meeting their basic needs helped so far? There is generational poverty created by progressive policies. But since it gives you the false aura of "helping people" and "caring" you don't worry about it.
Cite an example from anywhere in the world where the poor have become more successful in society by receiving less
There are over a hundred countries in the world where the poor receive less than in the US. Why aren't they thriving?
That's the wrong concept, and the wrong question. its not a question of not spending some government money, its a question of how to spend it. Right now all we do is keep them at the same poverty level. We make is so its easy to just perpetuate the cycle, and we make it so there is no real consequences for fathering 6 kids with 6 baby mommas.
Welfare is the racism of low expectations when it comes to minorities, and the classisim of low expectations when it comes to white poor. Your concept of poverty elimination has failed, we've been doing it since the 60's and it has been a absolute waste.
And how has meeting their basic needs helped so far? There is generational poverty created by progressive policies. But since it gives you the false aura of "helping people" and "caring" you don't worry about it.
Cite an example from anywhere in the world where the poor have become more successful in society by receiving less
There are over a hundred countries in the world where the poor receive less than in the US. Why aren't they thriving?
Excellent point and absolutely the reality. You don't improve the situation of the poor by making them suffer so they will be motivated to do something about their poverty. They usually do as much as they can about their poverty, but are not successful. You all are always complaining and making the assumption that these people are some kind of losers who don't work hard or try to make their way in the world. The vast number of people who receive government assistance do work hard and do try to make their own way in the world. You base your hatred of the poor on the minority who abuse the system. It's frightful how heartless, loathsome and cruel you are.
Cite an example from anywhere in the world where the poor have become more successful in society by receiving less
There are over a hundred countries in the world where the poor receive less than in the US. Why aren't they thriving?
That's the wrong concept, and the wrong question. its not a question of not spending some government money, its a question of how to spend it. Right now all we do is keep them at the same poverty level. We make is so its easy to just perpetuate the cycle, and we make it so there is no real consequences for fathering 6 kids with 6 baby mommas.
Welfare is the racism of low expectations when it comes to minorities, and the classisim of low expectations when it comes to white poor. Your concept of poverty elimination has failed, we've been doing it since the 60's and it has been a absolute waste.
That is not all we do. Never has been
Our poverty programs have always provided more than a safety net. It has provided educational opportunities, job training, jobs placement incentives. Millions of people have used these programs to escape poverty
But the problem does not lay with the poor being too lazy to take advantage of opportunities but the lack of opportunities. When there are three people available for every open job, two are going to go without. Trying to pull away the safety net under these economic conditions will only increase suffering and do nothing about motivation
How does this differ from Obama's VA?
Will you people stop with this crap? The VA has been screwed up for sixty years through 11 presidents.
It was rather tactless, but in it lies a certain truth. You shouldn't shield people from their failures. Doing that leads to a false sense of entitlement. Those who have never tasted failure should be made to. Life isn't a bed of roses. What we lack the courage to do, is let poor people find a way for themselves; instead of letting the government lead them by the hand down an endless road, with no clear destination in sight.
I'm not surprised you didn't get it, but decided to go for the literal translation just so you can score a cheap political shot on an obscure political forum.Indiana GOP candidate: No one has the guts to let poor people wither and die
I was not trying to hurt anybodys feelings, Johnston said. I saw the opportunity to say something. I think a lot of the poor have no way out, and theres no motivation to improve your position. Its like training a child, either you enable them or force them out at some point.
The candidate made the comments in a discussion thread on the Mad Mac page, which covers local politics.
For almost three generations people, in some cases, have been given handouts, Johnston said during the discussion. They have been enabled so much that their paradigm in life is simply being given the stuff of life, however meager.
What you see is a setting for a life of misery is life to them never-the-less, he continued. No one has the guts to just let them wither and die. No one who wants votes is willing to call a spade a spade. As long as the Dems can get their votes the enabling will continue. The Republicans need their votes and dare not cut the fiscal tether. It is really a political Catch-22.
Did they learn nothing from 'legitimate rape' guy?
These sound bytes are killers--especially since the base ain't rich.
How does this differ from Obama's VA?
Well people are actually dying at the va hospitals.
Still.
Oh, and another thing! Most VA employees are union and there lies a large portion of the problem. Think Obama's going to go against his union buddies? I think not!
How does this differ from Obama's VA?
Will you people stop with this crap? The VA has been screwed up for sixty years through 11 presidents.
It's Obama's now, and he's the one who promised to fix it! When a President takes office he takes ownership of everything in the Executive Branch, that includes the VA. And..........as Commander In Chief of the military he double owns the VA.
So just stop passing the buck to his predecessors and lay the responsibility where it belongs.
Just Wither and Die please. Like it. Terrific thing to run on. As honest as it gets in politics these days.
Bulworth - Trailer #1 - Video
Or maybe the decide to actually try to improve their lives. God forbid they become self sufficient, the Dems would lose their guaranteed votes.
I could give shit one about the poor.
I'm sick and tired of bankrolling their lives for em through welfare, medicaide and all that other social bullshit we taxpayers are forced to provice.
Its not my duty to take care of the poor. Those of you who think its your duty then whip out those wallets and checkbooks and have at it.
Oh wait. I forgot. None of you will do that. It would cost you every penny you have. Never mind.
Are you a Christian? Because if you are, it.
My stance is not based on religion at all; it's based on reason. Logically, it is clear there will always be people who need assistance, always have been and always will be. If we ignore them, we end up with the type of situations you see in the photos I posted. I am not willing to live in a country where I co-exist with that situation, so I believe that the State needs to step in and help. I don't mind paying for it through my taxes. It is certainly better to pay for that than to pay for wars.
However, I find it incredibly hypocritical for people who profess to be religious, Christian or otherwise, yet have the attitude you, Claudette, have. All of the major religions have guidelines and tenets that say it is their duty to help those in need -- the poor, the weak, the disabled, the disenfranchised, etc. To profess to be religious and ignore the poor is to be a hypocrite.
Oh, and another thing! Most VA employees are union and there lies a large portion of the problem. Think Obama's going to go against his union buddies? I think not!
Can you tell us which ones? Since many are just govt. employees..
That's the wrong concept, and the wrong question. its not a question of not spending some government money, its a question of how to spend it. Right now all we do is keep them at the same poverty level. We make is so its easy to just perpetuate the cycle, and we make it so there is no real consequences for fathering 6 kids with 6 baby mommas.
Welfare is the racism of low expectations when it comes to minorities, and the classisim of low expectations when it comes to white poor. Your concept of poverty elimination has failed, we've been doing it since the 60's and it has been a absolute waste.
That is not all we do. Never has been
Our poverty programs have always provided more than a safety net. It has provided educational opportunities, job training, jobs placement incentives. Millions of people have used these programs to escape poverty
But the problem does not lay with the poor being too lazy to take advantage of opportunities but the lack of opportunities. When there are three people available for every open job, two are going to go without. Trying to pull away the safety net under these economic conditions will only increase suffering and do nothing about motivation
And when some don't use it, we let them just sit there and rot.
You have any numbers showing the whole 3 people Available for every open job? I see a ton of help wanted signs all around for deli counter people and crap like that.
People who are poor are probably poor for a reason. Some have to be forced to better themselves. But concepts of shame and responsibility are banned words for progressives.
There are over a hundred countries in the world where the poor receive less than in the US. Why aren't they thriving?
Just Wither and Die please. Like it. Terrific thing to run on. As honest as it gets in politics these days.
Bulworth - Trailer #1 - Video
Or maybe the decide to actually try to improve their lives. God forbid they become self sufficient, the Dems would lose their guaranteed votes.
Several things happen when you divorce people from the means of survival in a society.
-They die.
-They commit crime.
-They revolt.
-They overcome the poverty and thrive.
Which do you think is the most likely outcome?
Indiana GOP candidate: No one has the guts to let poor people wither and die
I was not trying to hurt anybodys feelings, Johnston said. I saw the opportunity to say something. I think a lot of the poor have no way out, and theres no motivation to improve your position. Its like training a child, either you enable them or force them out at some point.
The candidate made the comments in a discussion thread on the Mad Mac page, which covers local politics.
For almost three generations people, in some cases, have been given handouts, Johnston said during the discussion. They have been enabled so much that their paradigm in life is simply being given the stuff of life, however meager.
What you see is a setting for a life of misery is life to them never-the-less, he continued. No one has the guts to just let them wither and die. No one who wants votes is willing to call a spade a spade. As long as the Dems can get their votes the enabling will continue. The Republicans need their votes and dare not cut the fiscal tether. It is really a political Catch-22.
Did they learn nothing from 'legitimate rape' guy?
These sound bytes are killers--especially since the base ain't rich.
Will you people stop with this crap? The VA has been screwed up for sixty years through 11 presidents.
It's Obama's now, and he's the one who promised to fix it! When a President takes office he takes ownership of everything in the Executive Branch, that includes the VA. And..........as Commander In Chief of the military he double owns the VA.
So just stop passing the buck to his predecessors and lay the responsibility where it belongs.
Congress controls the VA's money and has the power to fix the VA, notice the ones working on it now is Congress, it's in their jurisdiction..
