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so Wash. will turn into the murder capital of America.
so Wash. will turn into the murder capital of America.
The other Washington....Washington D.C. is a murder capitol....and they have had absolute gun control...until they just passed concealed carry...which the fascists are going to make so difficult to obtain it will be useless in stopping crime...
The large majority of the people here want all gun sales to go through a background check.
Because they don't pay attention to the issue....ask them the real question...
"Would you approve a universal background check even though it will not stop one violent crime or mass shooting and it will increase your peril of breaking the law if you give a gun to a relative or friend, and it will now cost you more money to transfer a gun to a friend or relative...with no benefit to stopping violent crime or mass shootings?"
Ask the real question to those people and see how they vote....
How many voters do you think read all 18 pages? .001% maybe. It proves people are too stupid to make laws and we need to go back to being a Republic not American Idol style voting. Nothing conservatives say matters but the people do? What a creep.No you've not shown over and over that this law doesn't work.
But that doesn't matter. Nothing you or any of you conservatives post matters even in the slightest.
The people spoke overwhelmingly. It's a done deal and there's absolutely nothing you can do to stop it.
It wasn't done by any politicians so conservatives can't go after any politicians for this law. Which is something I think is fantastic. It was done by the people. The large majority of the people here want all gun sales to go through a background check.
You can keep posting lies and keep throwing hissy fits all you want.
You're wasting your time. You will accomplish nothing.
You're getting cranky, maybe it's time for another bowl?
that violates federal law thoughso Wash. will turn into the murder capital of America.
The other Washington....Washington D.C. is a murder capitol....and they have had absolute gun control...until they just passed concealed carry...which the fascists are going to make so difficult to obtain it will be useless in stopping crime...
Gun control in a city isn't ever going to be that effective. Like NYC who's criminals get 80% of their guns from out of state, criminals in Washington DC can just go to the next city.
How many voters do you think read all 18 pages? .001% maybe. It proves people are too stupid to make laws and we need to go back to being a Republic not American Idol style voting. Nothing conservatives say matters but the people do? What a creep.No you've not shown over and over that this law doesn't work.
But that doesn't matter. Nothing you or any of you conservatives post matters even in the slightest.
The people spoke overwhelmingly. It's a done deal and there's absolutely nothing you can do to stop it.
It wasn't done by any politicians so conservatives can't go after any politicians for this law. Which is something I think is fantastic. It was done by the people. The large majority of the people here want all gun sales to go through a background check.
You can keep posting lies and keep throwing hissy fits all you want.
You're wasting your time. You will accomplish nothing.
You're getting cranky, maybe it's time for another bowl?
Most non-gun owners I talk to are shocked when they find out all guns are not registered and in most states no kind of license is needed to own. The more facts people know the more I think they would support registration and background checks for all sales.
London Gun Crime Offences per Borough 8211 2008 to 2013 Citizens Report UK
Are the rates of crime with a gun higher than the US.
No, the violent crime rate against unarmed, innocent civilians is almost twice that of the United States....
I guess it is only a bad rape, beating, stabbing, robbery or murder if a gun is used to do it...otherwise...it's all good....
So guns are used less by criminals where there are strict gun laws. Thank you.
The UK has ALWAYS had a much lower rate of violent crime than the USA. However, since the gun regulations went into effect in the UK, those violent crime rates have skyrocketed, as has the use of guns in crimes.
You're welcome. The stats show that VIOLENT CRIME IS INCREASING THANKS TO THE ONEROUS GUN LAWS THAT PROTECT THE CRIMINALS AND PROSECUTE THE LAWFUL.
So everything else has remained constant and gun laws are for sure the reason? Why are crimes in Russia going down when there has been no change in gun laws? Why doesn't the US have the lowest crime rates since we have the most guns? Why are Denmark crime rates so low with very few guns?
I can't believe this thread has gone almost 500 posts.
We know for a fact this does not work.
Remember Joker, weapons legally purchased and background checked.
Navy Yard shooter, weapon legally purchased and background checked.
Newtown, weapon legally purchased and background checked.
Loughner in AZ, weapon legally purchased and background checked.
Virgina Tech, weapons legally purchased and background checked.
California Virgin, weapons legally purchased, background checked, and California required waiting period and legally mandated instruction...TWICE!
That's all I can think of...every one legally purchased and background checked...what did that accomplish? Not a fucking thing.
Liberals, married to policies that demonstratively don't work.
Solutions that suck...new motto for the Democrat party
an amazing thing has occurred in NY. you can't buy an old style AR 15 in NY from a dealer. but no one in NY paid attention to the safe act and registered their guns, so now people are still selling and trading these style guns with no background checks at all. another thing that is happening is people are buying the Safe Act approved AR's and for a $20 magazine release are converting them to the old style AR's. and the last huge thing going on is kids are building their own unregistered, unserialized, non background checked AR's AK;s R 700's out of 80% lowers. it's become a fad.But they will still get guns. This law won't stop them in any way. But im glad to see you agree voter id's won't cause anyone to lose any rights.
You're in the minority on this issue.
Homosexuals = The rights of the minority cannot be dictated by the majority.
Gun owners = Why of course the rights of the minority can, and must, be decided by the majority.
You haven't lost any rights.
In fact no one loses any right to have a gun with this law. Those who will be prevented from getting guns lost their right to have one long before this law. When they committed a felony, or if they have mental problems or if they're a domestic abuser they lose their right to have a gun when they committed the original crime or when they were found to have mental problems.
Our society decided a long time ago that those people shouldn't have guns. All this law does is make sure that they don't get them. The honor system we've been using thus far has not worked and has gotten thousands of people killed.
It makes it harder for a felon to get a gun. I see no problem with that.
No, it doesn't. I makes it harder for someone like ME to get a gun. I have no record, no adjudications due to mental defect, no restraining orders out on me.
Investigations at gun shows have revealed that many private sellers, when approached by someone who indicates that they are prohibited from possessing a firearm, will still complete the sale. A 2009 undercover investigation by the City of New York found that 19 of 30 private sellers approached at a gun show were willing to sell to an individual who stated that he could probably not pass a background check.
I can't believe this thread has gone almost 500 posts.
We know for a fact this does not work.
Remember Joker, weapons legally purchased and background checked.
Navy Yard shooter, weapon legally purchased and background checked.
Newtown, weapon legally purchased and background checked.
Loughner in AZ, weapon legally purchased and background checked.
Virgina Tech, weapons legally purchased and background checked.
California Virgin, weapons legally purchased, background checked, and California required waiting period and legally mandated instruction...TWICE!
That's all I can think of...every one legally purchased and background checked...what did that accomplish? Not a fucking thing.
Liberals, married to policies that demonstratively don't work.
Solutions that suck...new motto for the Democrat party
A gang of elite British Army soldiers who smuggled drugs and guns into the UK have been jailed for a combined total of almost 50 years today.
Trooper Lemar Loveless, 26, masterminded the operation to bring a cache of guns, ammunition and £70,000 worth of cocaine through the Channel Tunnel loaded into the back of BMWs.
He had discharged himself from the Queen's Royal Hussars, the most senior light cavalry regiment of the British Army, just days before his arrest.
The court heard they had links to an Italian arms dealer in Germany who sold them the army-issue guns - two German Walther PPKs and three Italian converted pistols - and cocaine.
A fifth defendant, Romone Marshelleck, 24, was waiting to receive the guns in London to sell on to members of the criminal underworld.
Police raided his home in south London, and found pictures of him on an iPad posing with guns and ammunition.
Just for giggles....British elite soldiers arrested smuggling guns from continent to U.K....
Don't they know that guns are strictly controlled in the U.K.?
British soldiers jailed for 50 years after smuggling drugs and guns into the UK in the back of BMWs Daily Mail Online
A gang of elite British Army soldiers who smuggled drugs and guns into the UK have been jailed for a combined total of almost 50 years today.
Trooper Lemar Loveless, 26, masterminded the operation to bring a cache of guns, ammunition and £70,000 worth of cocaine through the Channel Tunnel loaded into the back of BMWs.
He had discharged himself from the Queen's Royal Hussars, the most senior light cavalry regiment of the British Army, just days before his arrest.
Must not be that many guns getting into the UK.
Must not be that many guns getting into the UK.
And criminals still get the guns they want....and the violent crime rate in Britain is twice the rate it is here in the U.S.
And again...
The Royal family and the politicians have armed security....
The rich and famous in Britain have private armed security...
Criminals have the guns they want and need....
And who pays for all these people with guns for the rich and famous, the Royal Family and the politicians and the criminals....
The law abiding British citizen....the only ones who by law cannot own guns to protect themselves....
Their tax dollars pay for the armed security...and their stolen money pays to arm the criminals....
That is the country you want Brain and Dana....
I can't believe this thread has gone almost 500 posts.
We know for a fact this does not work.
Remember Joker, weapons legally purchased and background checked.
Navy Yard shooter, weapon legally purchased and background checked.
Newtown, weapon legally purchased and background checked.
Loughner in AZ, weapon legally purchased and background checked.
Virgina Tech, weapons legally purchased and background checked.
California Virgin, weapons legally purchased, background checked, and California required waiting period and legally mandated instruction...TWICE!
That's all I can think of...every one legally purchased and background checked...what did that accomplish? Not a fucking thing.
Liberals, married to policies that demonstratively don't work.
Solutions that suck...new motto for the Democrat party
Wisconsin Mass Shooter Exploited Background Check Loophole That NRA Says Isn t A Problem Blog Media Matters for America
I can't believe this thread has gone almost 500 posts.
We know for a fact this does not work.
Remember Joker, weapons legally purchased and background checked.
Navy Yard shooter, weapon legally purchased and background checked.
Newtown, weapon legally purchased and background checked.
Loughner in AZ, weapon legally purchased and background checked.
Virgina Tech, weapons legally purchased and background checked.
California Virgin, weapons legally purchased, background checked, and California required waiting period and legally mandated instruction...TWICE!
That's all I can think of...every one legally purchased and background checked...what did that accomplish? Not a fucking thing.
Liberals, married to policies that demonstratively don't work.
Solutions that suck...new motto for the Democrat party
Wisconsin Mass Shooter Exploited Background Check Loophole That NRA Says Isn t A Problem Blog Media Matters for America
Isn't that the one where the guy also built a homemade bomb? Do you think those people would still be alive if this guy only had a bomb and no gun?
If they get all the guns they want then why is their rate so much lower than ours? I think they don't get all the guns they want.
