Gun Confiscations by Governments in History

[Mr Natural]

You people still have your guns?

I thought Obama took them all.

 

[S.J.]

Real Americans know better than to disarm the people. That's why the left has to import people who are used to being subservient to government and are willing to support them in exchange for a free ride and a welfare check.

Or, and more dangerously, indoctrinate and exploit the uneducated young.

That's been an ongoing effort since the 60s. And it's been pretty successful, imagine if they had succeeded in destroying ALL family units, not just the black ones. Caring parents is the only thing that's kept us from losing our youth completely to their communist agenda and destruction of our republic.

 

[jc456]

Cambodia prior to 1974

Germany 1938

Russia 1917

China 1947

Anyone know what occurred in those nations after those years?

What about all of Europe today?

10 countries with the most guns per capita:

• USA - 112.6 guns per 100 residents.
• Serbia - 75.6.
• Yemen - 54.8.
• Switzerland - 45.7.
• Cyprus - 36.4.
• Saudi Arabia - 35.
• Iraq - 34.2.
• Uruguay - 31.8.

Switzerland is nice, though they still have more gun laws than we do. Ever vacation in Yemen?

As I have said to other posters you have the right not to own one, but please do not infringe on my right because of your fear...

Here's a thought, respond to my actual post.

I did about more gun laws in Switzerland.

Gun laws are as useful as drunk driving laws... Sure they are great to punish after the fact but criminals never obey them.

Also the shooting in Florida could have been prevented with the laws already on the books but the failure from the FBI down to the local authorities caused those deaths.

Now I know you believe more gun laws will work and make you safer in life but the reality they don't.

As I stated just in this response there are laws already, so the FBI and local authorities can not protect you.

So as you point out how America is a shit hole country because of it gun laws the fact remains it is my constitutional right to bear arms and in the end nothing you do will change that.

America was never created to be like Europe and it should never start acting like Europe either...

Still haven't responded to the point of my post, but I don't blame you.

America was never created to be like Europe? What does that even mean?

Gun laws do work, the background check system needs to be improved so that mental health officials can directly have access to them. Teenagers should not be allowed to purchase AR15s, those two things right there could have had an impact in Florida.

But, the point of my post was about countries with gun control laws do not equate to Nazi Germany.

 

[2aguy]

Cambodia prior to 1974

Germany 1938

Russia 1917

China 1947

Anyone know what occurred in those nations after those years?

Also.....the Germans registered the remaining guns not ordered turned in, in the 1920s.....those registration lists were then used by the socialists to disarm Jews and political opposition...who were the ones who ended up in the gas chambers...


Don't forget.....the rest of Europe also took guns away from their people after World War 1.....that left them helpless when the Germans took over....and they were forced to hand over innocent men, women and children to the Germans to be murdered in gas chambers....

The only country that didn't experience this...Switzerland....they had 435,000 citizens armed with military rifles ready to fight any invasion...and because of that, the Germans didn't invade....

THE SWISS WERE PREPARED TO FIGHT FACISM TO THE BITTER END | FRONTLINE | PBS



That is why the Nazis despised Switzerland. Joseph Goebbels called Switzerland "this stinking little state" where "sentiment has turned very much against us." Adolf Hitler decided that "all the rubbish of small nations still existing in Europe must be liquidated," even if it meant he would later "be attacked as the 'Butcher of the Swiss.'"



The 1940 Nazi invasion plan, Operation Tannenbaum, was not executed, and SS Oberst Hermann Bohme's 1943 memorandum warned that an invasion of Switzerland would be too costly because every man was armed and trained to shoot. This did not stop the Gestapo from preparing lists of Swiss to be liquidated once the Nazis overran the country.



The other European nations were easily toppled and had little means to wage a partisan war against the occupation. Once their standing armies were defeated, the governments capitulated and the populaces were defenseless.



Only in Switzerland was the entire populace armed and prepared to wage a relentless guerrilla war against an invader. When the war began in 1939, Switzerland mobilized 435,000 citizen soldiers out of a population of 4.2 million. Production figures for Swiss service rifles, which had firepower equal to those of the Germans, demonstrate an ample supply of small arms. Swiss militiamen were instructed to disregard any alleged "official" surrender as enemy propaganda and, if necessary, to fight individually. This meant that a nation of sharpshooters would be sniping at German soldiers at long ranges from every mountain.



While neutral, Switzerland was prepared to fight a Nazi invasion to the end. The celebrated Swiss Gen. Henri Guisan developed the strategy known as defense du reduit--an initial opposition followed by a retreat into the Alps, where a relentless war to the death would be waged. Most Swiss strongly opposed Nazism. Death sentences were issued for fifth-column activities, and proclamations against anti-Semitism were passed at various official levels. There was no Holocaust on Swiss soil, something that can not be said for France, the Netherlands, Poland or most of Europe.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Cambodia prior to 1974

Germany 1938

Russia 1917

China 1947

Anyone know what occurred in those nations after those years?

What about all of Europe today?

10 countries with the most guns per capita:

• USA - 112.6 guns per 100 residents.
• Serbia - 75.6.
• Yemen - 54.8.
• Switzerland - 45.7.
• Cyprus - 36.4.
• Saudi Arabia - 35.
• Iraq - 34.2.
• Uruguay - 31.8.

Switzerland is nice, though they still have more gun laws than we do. Ever vacation in Yemen?

As I have said to other posters you have the right not to own one, but please do not infringe on my right because of your fear...

Here's a thought, respond to my actual post.

I did about more gun laws in Switzerland.

Gun laws are as useful as drunk driving laws... Sure they are great to punish after the fact but criminals never obey them.

Also the shooting in Florida could have been prevented with the laws already on the books but the failure from the FBI down to the local authorities caused those deaths.

Now I know you believe more gun laws will work and make you safer in life but the reality they don't.

As I stated just in this response there are laws already, so the FBI and local authorities can not protect you.

So as you point out how America is a shit hole country because of it gun laws the fact remains it is my constitutional right to bear arms and in the end nothing you do will change that.

America was never created to be like Europe and it should never start acting like Europe either...

So as you point out how America is a shit hole country because

To the liberal who has his head shoved up his ass, here is a shithole country(Venezuela) that has very strict gun laws. At least our animals are starving, yet.

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Personally I do not want to infringe on anyone right no matter freedom of religion, right to bear arms, or the other protected rights that are granted tp us including to speak freely.

Personally I have no use for the AR-15 and prefer my shotguns, but who am I to say you can not own one?

Also the individuals that believe gun laws work, well they work as well as the murder laws and again great laws for after the fact but never stops thw actual criminal.

So do I want America to be like Europe or Venezuela?

No, and if I were wanting that then I would move there and not demand laws be changed just because I do not like someone right in thia country...

 

[HappyJoy]

Cambodia prior to 1974

Germany 1938

Russia 1917

China 1947

Anyone know what occurred in those nations after those years?

What about all of Europe today?

10 countries with the most guns per capita:

• USA - 112.6 guns per 100 residents.
• Serbia - 75.6.
• Yemen - 54.8.
• Switzerland - 45.7.
• Cyprus - 36.4.
• Saudi Arabia - 35.
• Iraq - 34.2.
• Uruguay - 31.8.

Switzerland is nice, though they still have more gun laws than we do. Ever vacation in Yemen?

What is the relevance?

The relevance is simply cherry picking out a handful of countries over time to attempt to demonstrate that gun control laws = tyranny. When most of our allies have stronger gun control laws than we do are also democratic. And the cherry on the top is pointing at that the top 10 countries with the most guns per capita have some pretty awful governments.

Basically, gun control does not equal Nazi Germany, but I thought that would be obvious.

dude again, if you truly wish to be like those other countries, move to one.

Currently you are in the US of A. we have rights they don't have. maybe they all should import our 2nd amendment.

Gosh, I wish you dimwits could stay on topic for a change.

 

[jc456]

Cambodia prior to 1974

Germany 1938

Russia 1917

China 1947

Anyone know what occurred in those nations after those years?

What about all of Europe today?

10 countries with the most guns per capita:

• USA - 112.6 guns per 100 residents.
• Serbia - 75.6.
• Yemen - 54.8.
• Switzerland - 45.7.
• Cyprus - 36.4.
• Saudi Arabia - 35.
• Iraq - 34.2.
• Uruguay - 31.8.

Switzerland is nice, though they still have more gun laws than we do. Ever vacation in Yemen?

isn't Switzerland a neutral country?

You're going to have to ask yourself what the fuck that has to do with anything I've posted.

Switzerland was on the list. You mentioned Switzerland. Isn't it a neutral country? shouldn't be any need for guns, they treat everyone the same.

 

[jc456]

Cambodia prior to 1974

Germany 1938

Russia 1917

China 1947

Anyone know what occurred in those nations after those years?

What about all of Europe today?

10 countries with the most guns per capita:

• USA - 112.6 guns per 100 residents.
• Serbia - 75.6.
• Yemen - 54.8.
• Switzerland - 45.7.
• Cyprus - 36.4.
• Saudi Arabia - 35.
• Iraq - 34.2.
• Uruguay - 31.8.

Switzerland is nice, though they still have more gun laws than we do. Ever vacation in Yemen?

What is the relevance?

The relevance is simply cherry picking out a handful of countries over time to attempt to demonstrate that gun control laws = tyranny. When most of our allies have stronger gun control laws than we do are also democratic. And the cherry on the top is pointing at that the top 10 countries with the most guns per capita have some pretty awful governments.

Basically, gun control does not equal Nazi Germany, but I thought that would be obvious.

dude again, if you truly wish to be like those other countries, move to one.

Currently you are in the US of A. we have rights they don't have. maybe they all should import our 2nd amendment.

Gosh, I wish you dimwits could stay on topic for a change.

then I guess you shouldn't go off topic.

 

[2aguy]

Cambodia prior to 1974

Germany 1938

Russia 1917

China 1947

Anyone know what occurred in those nations after those years?

What about all of Europe today?

10 countries with the most guns per capita:

• USA - 112.6 guns per 100 residents.
• Serbia - 75.6.
• Yemen - 54.8.
• Switzerland - 45.7.
• Cyprus - 36.4.
• Saudi Arabia - 35.
• Iraq - 34.2.
• Uruguay - 31.8.

Switzerland is nice, though they still have more gun laws than we do. Ever vacation in Yemen?

What is the relevance?

The relevance is simply cherry picking out a handful of countries over time to attempt to demonstrate that gun control laws = tyranny. When most of our allies have stronger gun control laws than we do are also democratic. And the cherry on the top is pointing at that the top 10 countries with the most guns per capita have some pretty awful governments.

Basically, gun control does not equal Nazi Germany, but I thought that would be obvious.

And those European countries are now experiencing more and more gun crime.....while our gun crime rates are going down....you guys think that gun control is stagnant...that changes in the culture of a country will keep their citizens obeying their gun laws...that isn't the case in Europe or anywhere else....

The Truth.....?

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...

-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Cambodia prior to 1974

Germany 1938

Russia 1917

China 1947

Anyone know what occurred in those nations after those years?

What about all of Europe today?

10 countries with the most guns per capita:

• USA - 112.6 guns per 100 residents.
• Serbia - 75.6.
• Yemen - 54.8.
• Switzerland - 45.7.
• Cyprus - 36.4.
• Saudi Arabia - 35.
• Iraq - 34.2.
• Uruguay - 31.8.

Switzerland is nice, though they still have more gun laws than we do. Ever vacation in Yemen?

As I have said to other posters you have the right not to own one, but please do not infringe on my right because of your fear...

Here's a thought, respond to my actual post.

I did about more gun laws in Switzerland.

Gun laws are as useful as drunk driving laws... Sure they are great to punish after the fact but criminals never obey them.

Also the shooting in Florida could have been prevented with the laws already on the books but the failure from the FBI down to the local authorities caused those deaths.

Now I know you believe more gun laws will work and make you safer in life but the reality they don't.

As I stated just in this response there are laws already, so the FBI and local authorities can not protect you.

So as you point out how America is a shit hole country because of it gun laws the fact remains it is my constitutional right to bear arms and in the end nothing you do will change that.

America was never created to be like Europe and it should never start acting like Europe either...

Still haven't responded to the point of my post, but I don't blame you.

America was never created to be like Europe? What does that even mean?

Gun laws do work, the background check system needs to be improved so that mental health officials can directly have access to them. Teenagers should not be allowed to purchase AR15s, those two things right there could have had an impact in Florida.

But, the point of my post was about countries with gun control laws do not equate to Nazi Germany.

those two things right there could have had an impact in Florida.

And if Obama's political correct policies towards blacks wasn't enforce and the 39 times the police were called but nothing came of it, that would of stopped the Florida Shooting. If the FBI would of taken the threat instead of pushing it aside, the shooting wouldn't of happened. Yet you want more stricter infringement on our rights, yet do nothing about more stricter punishment for those that FAILED the 17 children..

 

[HappyJoy]

Cambodia prior to 1974

Germany 1938

Russia 1917

China 1947

Anyone know what occurred in those nations after those years?

Also.....the Germans registered the remaining guns not ordered turned in, in the ...

Why do you always equate gun laws to Nazi Germany? How about Germany today? Or Canada, Or the UK or France?

 

[jc456]

Cambodia prior to 1974

Germany 1938

Russia 1917

China 1947

Anyone know what occurred in those nations after those years?

Also.....the Germans registered the remaining guns not ordered turned in, in the 1920s.....those registration lists were then used by the socialists to disarm Jews and political opposition...who were the ones who ended up in the gas chambers...


Don't forget.....the rest of Europe also took guns away from their people after World War 1.....that left them helpless when the Germans took over....and they were forced to hand over innocent men, women and children to the Germans to be murdered in gas chambers....

The only country that didn't experience this...Switzerland....they had 435,000 citizens armed with military rifles ready to fight any invasion...and because of that, the Germans didn't invade....

THE SWISS WERE PREPARED TO FIGHT FACISM TO THE BITTER END | FRONTLINE | PBS



That is why the Nazis despised Switzerland. Joseph Goebbels called Switzerland "this stinking little state" where "sentiment has turned very much against us." Adolf Hitler decided that "all the rubbish of small nations still existing in Europe must be liquidated," even if it meant he would later "be attacked as the 'Butcher of the Swiss.'"



The 1940 Nazi invasion plan, Operation Tannenbaum, was not executed, and SS Oberst Hermann Bohme's 1943 memorandum warned that an invasion of Switzerland would be too costly because every man was armed and trained to shoot. This did not stop the Gestapo from preparing lists of Swiss to be liquidated once the Nazis overran the country.



The other European nations were easily toppled and had little means to wage a partisan war against the occupation. Once their standing armies were defeated, the governments capitulated and the populaces were defenseless.



Only in Switzerland was the entire populace armed and prepared to wage a relentless guerrilla war against an invader. When the war began in 1939, Switzerland mobilized 435,000 citizen soldiers out of a population of 4.2 million. Production figures for Swiss service rifles, which had firepower equal to those of the Germans, demonstrate an ample supply of small arms. Swiss militiamen were instructed to disregard any alleged "official" surrender as enemy propaganda and, if necessary, to fight individually. This meant that a nation of sharpshooters would be sniping at German soldiers at long ranges from every mountain.



While neutral, Switzerland was prepared to fight a Nazi invasion to the end. The celebrated Swiss Gen. Henri Guisan developed the strategy known as defense du reduit--an initial opposition followed by a retreat into the Alps, where a relentless war to the death would be waged. Most Swiss strongly opposed Nazism. Death sentences were issued for fifth-column activities, and proclamations against anti-Semitism were passed at various official levels. There was no Holocaust on Swiss soil, something that can not be said for France, the Netherlands, Poland or most of Europe.

here Happy, read about Switzerland. then ask yourself if you would really want to live there.

 

[HappyJoy]

Cambodia prior to 1974

Germany 1938

Russia 1917

China 1947

Anyone know what occurred in those nations after those years?

What about all of Europe today?

10 countries with the most guns per capita:

• USA - 112.6 guns per 100 residents.
• Serbia - 75.6.
• Yemen - 54.8.
• Switzerland - 45.7.
• Cyprus - 36.4.
• Saudi Arabia - 35.
• Iraq - 34.2.
• Uruguay - 31.8.

Switzerland is nice, though they still have more gun laws than we do. Ever vacation in Yemen?

What is the relevance?

The relevance is simply cherry picking out a handful of countries over time to attempt to demonstrate that gun control laws = tyranny. When most of our allies have stronger gun control laws than we do are also democratic. And the cherry on the top is pointing at that the top 10 countries with the most guns per capita have some pretty awful governments.

Basically, gun control does not equal Nazi Germany, but I thought that would be obvious.

And those European countries are now experiencing more and more gun crime.....while our gun crime rates are going down....you guys think that gun control is stagnant...that changes in the culture of a country will keep their citizens obeying their gun laws...that isn't the case in Europe or anywhere else....

The Truth.....?

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...

-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Their gun crime is way lower than ours still. It's not even a contest. Also, all crime went down for the United States to include gun crime, it's still way, way higher than other countries.

 

[2aguy]

Cambodia prior to 1974

Germany 1938

Russia 1917

China 1947

Anyone know what occurred in those nations after those years?

What about all of Europe today?

10 countries with the most guns per capita:

• USA - 112.6 guns per 100 residents.
• Serbia - 75.6.
• Yemen - 54.8.
• Switzerland - 45.7.
• Cyprus - 36.4.
• Saudi Arabia - 35.
• Iraq - 34.2.
• Uruguay - 31.8.

Switzerland is nice, though they still have more gun laws than we do. Ever vacation in Yemen?

As I have said to other posters you have the right not to own one, but please do not infringe on my right because of your fear...

Here's a thought, respond to my actual post.

I did about more gun laws in Switzerland.

Gun laws are as useful as drunk driving laws... Sure they are great to punish after the fact but criminals never obey them.

Also the shooting in Florida could have been prevented with the laws already on the books but the failure from the FBI down to the local authorities caused those deaths.

Now I know you believe more gun laws will work and make you safer in life but the reality they don't.

As I stated just in this response there are laws already, so the FBI and local authorities can not protect you.

So as you point out how America is a shit hole country because of it gun laws the fact remains it is my constitutional right to bear arms and in the end nothing you do will change that.

America was never created to be like Europe and it should never start acting like Europe either...

Still haven't responded to the point of my post, but I don't blame you.

America was never created to be like Europe? What does that even mean?

Gun laws do work, the background check system needs to be improved so that mental health officials can directly have access to them. Teenagers should not be allowed to purchase AR15s, those two things right there could have had an impact in Florida.

But, the point of my post was about countries with gun control laws do not equate to Nazi Germany.

Wrong....the average age of mass shooters is 34.....and the shooter could have waited till he was 21, passed a background check, then shot up the school...or he could have murdered someone and taken their guns....

Gun control does not work...it doesn't stop criminals or mass shooters

Neither thing you offered would have stopped the mass shooter in Florida.

But, the point of my post was about countries with gun control laws do not equate to Nazi Germany

The Germans in the 1920s didn't think that registering their guns with the government was a big deal either, it wan't until 20 years later when the socialists used the registration lists to confiscate guns that it became a matter of life and death...and they registered their guns, and turned in their World War 1 issue rifles following the same exact arguments you anti gunners are making today...the exact same arguments....

 

[HappyJoy]

Cambodia prior to 1974

Germany 1938

Russia 1917

China 1947

Anyone know what occurred in those nations after those years?

Also.....the Germans registered the remaining guns not ordered turned in, in the 1920s.....those registration lists were then used by the socialists to disarm Jews and political opposition...who were the ones who ended up in the gas chambers...


Don't forget.....the rest of Europe also took guns away from their people after World War 1.....that left them helpless when the Germans took over....and they were forced to hand over innocent men, women and children to the Germans to be murdered in gas chambers....

The only country that didn't experience this...Switzerland....they had 435,000 citizens armed with military rifles ready to fight any invasion...and because of that, the Germans didn't invade....

THE SWISS WERE PREPARED TO FIGHT FACISM TO THE BITTER END | FRONTLINE | PBS



That is why the Nazis despised Switzerland. Joseph Goebbels called Switzerland "this stinking little state" where "sentiment has turned very much against us." Adolf Hitler decided that "all the rubbish of small nations still existing in Europe must be liquidated," even if it meant he would later "be attacked as the 'Butcher of the Swiss.'"



The 1940 Nazi invasion plan, Operation Tannenbaum, was not executed, and SS Oberst Hermann Bohme's 1943 memorandum warned that an invasion of Switzerland would be too costly because every man was armed and trained to shoot. This did not stop the Gestapo from preparing lists of Swiss to be liquidated once the Nazis overran the country.



The other European nations were easily toppled and had little means to wage a partisan war against the occupation. Once their standing armies were defeated, the governments capitulated and the populaces were defenseless.



Only in Switzerland was the entire populace armed and prepared to wage a relentless guerrilla war against an invader. When the war began in 1939, Switzerland mobilized 435,000 citizen soldiers out of a population of 4.2 million. Production figures for Swiss service rifles, which had firepower equal to those of the Germans, demonstrate an ample supply of small arms. Swiss militiamen were instructed to disregard any alleged "official" surrender as enemy propaganda and, if necessary, to fight individually. This meant that a nation of sharpshooters would be sniping at German soldiers at long ranges from every mountain.



While neutral, Switzerland was prepared to fight a Nazi invasion to the end. The celebrated Swiss Gen. Henri Guisan developed the strategy known as defense du reduit--an initial opposition followed by a retreat into the Alps, where a relentless war to the death would be waged. Most Swiss strongly opposed Nazism. Death sentences were issued for fifth-column activities, and proclamations against anti-Semitism were passed at various official levels. There was no Holocaust on Swiss soil, something that can not be said for France, the Netherlands, Poland or most of Europe.

here Happy, read about Switzerland. then ask yourself if you would really want to live there.

Switzerland has stricter gun laws than we do, are you saying you'd like to incorporate their laws? Or, surprisingly enough you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[2aguy]

Cambodia prior to 1974

Germany 1938

Russia 1917

China 1947

Anyone know what occurred in those nations after those years?

What about all of Europe today?

10 countries with the most guns per capita:

• USA - 112.6 guns per 100 residents.
• Serbia - 75.6.
• Yemen - 54.8.
• Switzerland - 45.7.
• Cyprus - 36.4.
• Saudi Arabia - 35.
• Iraq - 34.2.
• Uruguay - 31.8.

Switzerland is nice, though they still have more gun laws than we do. Ever vacation in Yemen?

What is the relevance?

The relevance is simply cherry picking out a handful of countries over time to attempt to demonstrate that gun control laws = tyranny. When most of our allies have stronger gun control laws than we do are also democratic. And the cherry on the top is pointing at that the top 10 countries with the most guns per capita have some pretty awful governments.

Basically, gun control does not equal Nazi Germany, but I thought that would be obvious.

And those European countries are now experiencing more and more gun crime.....while our gun crime rates are going down....you guys think that gun control is stagnant...that changes in the culture of a country will keep their citizens obeying their gun laws...that isn't the case in Europe or anywhere else....

The Truth.....?

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...

-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Their gun crime is way lower than ours still. It's not even a contest. Also, all crime went down for the United States to include gun crime, it's still way, way higher than other countries.

Their low rates has nothing to do with their gun laws, since their criminals have guns....but everything to do with their population and culture...

 

[Penelope]

Those kids in the street yesterday will not forget and they are the future.

 

[jc456]

Cambodia prior to 1974

Germany 1938

Russia 1917

China 1947

Anyone know what occurred in those nations after those years?

Also.....the Germans registered the remaining guns not ordered turned in, in the ...

Why do you always equate gun laws to Nazi Germany? How about Germany today? Or Canada, Or the UK or France?

dude, simply too funny. If the US didn't kick hitler's ass, you think it would be like it is today? Really are you that naive?

 

[2aguy]

Cambodia prior to 1974

Germany 1938

Russia 1917

China 1947

Anyone know what occurred in those nations after those years?

Also.....the Germans registered the remaining guns not ordered turned in, in the 1920s.....those registration lists were then used by the socialists to disarm Jews and political opposition...who were the ones who ended up in the gas chambers...


Don't forget.....the rest of Europe also took guns away from their people after World War 1.....that left them helpless when the Germans took over....and they were forced to hand over innocent men, women and children to the Germans to be murdered in gas chambers....

The only country that didn't experience this...Switzerland....they had 435,000 citizens armed with military rifles ready to fight any invasion...and because of that, the Germans didn't invade....

THE SWISS WERE PREPARED TO FIGHT FACISM TO THE BITTER END | FRONTLINE | PBS



That is why the Nazis despised Switzerland. Joseph Goebbels called Switzerland "this stinking little state" where "sentiment has turned very much against us." Adolf Hitler decided that "all the rubbish of small nations still existing in Europe must be liquidated," even if it meant he would later "be attacked as the 'Butcher of the Swiss.'"



The 1940 Nazi invasion plan, Operation Tannenbaum, was not executed, and SS Oberst Hermann Bohme's 1943 memorandum warned that an invasion of Switzerland would be too costly because every man was armed and trained to shoot. This did not stop the Gestapo from preparing lists of Swiss to be liquidated once the Nazis overran the country.



The other European nations were easily toppled and had little means to wage a partisan war against the occupation. Once their standing armies were defeated, the governments capitulated and the populaces were defenseless.



Only in Switzerland was the entire populace armed and prepared to wage a relentless guerrilla war against an invader. When the war began in 1939, Switzerland mobilized 435,000 citizen soldiers out of a population of 4.2 million. Production figures for Swiss service rifles, which had firepower equal to those of the Germans, demonstrate an ample supply of small arms. Swiss militiamen were instructed to disregard any alleged "official" surrender as enemy propaganda and, if necessary, to fight individually. This meant that a nation of sharpshooters would be sniping at German soldiers at long ranges from every mountain.



While neutral, Switzerland was prepared to fight a Nazi invasion to the end. The celebrated Swiss Gen. Henri Guisan developed the strategy known as defense du reduit--an initial opposition followed by a retreat into the Alps, where a relentless war to the death would be waged. Most Swiss strongly opposed Nazism. Death sentences were issued for fifth-column activities, and proclamations against anti-Semitism were passed at various official levels. There was no Holocaust on Swiss soil, something that can not be said for France, the Netherlands, Poland or most of Europe.

here Happy, read about Switzerland. then ask yourself if you would really want to live there.

Switzerland has stricter gun laws than we do, are you saying you'd like to incorporate their laws? Or, surprisingly enough you don't know what you're talking about.

No...they have fully automatic rifles in most homes......anyone could take that rifle and shoot up a school...their gun control laws do not stop that.

 

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Cambodia prior to 1974

Germany 1938

Russia 1917

China 1947

Anyone know what occurred in those nations after those years?

What about all of Europe today?

10 countries with the most guns per capita:

• USA - 112.6 guns per 100 residents.
• Serbia - 75.6.
• Yemen - 54.8.
• Switzerland - 45.7.
• Cyprus - 36.4.
• Saudi Arabia - 35.
• Iraq - 34.2.
• Uruguay - 31.8.

Switzerland is nice, though they still have more gun laws than we do. Ever vacation in Yemen?

What is the relevance?

The relevance is simply cherry picking out a handful of countries over time to attempt to demonstrate that gun control laws = tyranny. When most of our allies have stronger gun control laws than we do are also democratic. And the cherry on the top is pointing at that the top 10 countries with the most guns per capita have some pretty awful governments.

Basically, gun control does not equal Nazi Germany, but I thought that would be obvious.

And those European countries are now experiencing more and more gun crime.....while our gun crime rates are going down....you guys think that gun control is stagnant...that changes in the culture of a country will keep their citizens obeying their gun laws...that isn't the case in Europe or anywhere else....

The Truth.....?

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...

-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Their gun crime is way lower than ours still. It's not even a contest. Also, all crime went down for the United States to include gun crime, it's still way, way higher than other countries.

apples and oranges.

 

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Those kids in the street yesterday will not forget and they are the future.

nor will we. cut all federal money to their schools and let them survive on their own. let's see how successful they will be.