Gun culture

What about someone merely having a psychiatric episode or having drunk a little too much? Do they all deserve to die.
Having sympathy for them makes them no less dangerous.
But why can British police take them alive, but American police have to execute them?



Really….you do realize that it is the rare occurrence where the police actually kill criminals…even ones with knives…right……you focus on one incident in Britain….and not all the ones here where nuts with knives are not killed….

They took a huge risk…..they got lucky…….
 
What about someone merely having a psychiatric episode or having drunk a little too much? Do they all deserve to die.
Having sympathy for them makes them no less dangerous.
But why can British police take them alive, but American police have to execute them?



You are lying with the word you use…..you use the word execute..that is not what they are doing…they are shooting a dangerous individual who has already attempted to murder several people……...
 
These two stories are a telling comparison of the way guns are used here vs. Britain. In London a man stabs several people on the subway, is subdued with a stun gun and arrested. In Miami Beach a man brandishes a razor, injures no one, but is killed by police. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Why can't American police non-fatally subdue a suspect? Are guns and violence that ingrained that no other avenues are considered?

London police treat knife attack as terrorist incident - CNN.com

Video shows Miami Beach police fatally shooting man - CNN.com
Even if you shoot a guy he can still advance and open you up. It's a judgment call by the cops. You are playing a risky game by waving a knife around. That guy was a loser and I'm happy we don't have to fund his existence any longer.

What I don't understand is why liberals care so deeply about troublesome assholes.
it's about killing a human being, I'm sorry you can't comprehend that....it's murder to kill someone not trying to kill you, and every precaution and step should be taken to NOT kill someone else... WHY is that so hard to understand?


Nope..it is not murder…the guy was a threat, and had attempted to murder other people….that is not the definition of murder, that is self defense...
 
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We sure do own a lot. It's why no one will ever try to invade America. It's why we will never again have another government treat us how the British did.

You don't like it? Feel free to get the fuck out.


Nor will we have governments like those in Europe who marched 12 million innocent, unarmed, men, women and young children into gas chambers and mass graves……..
 
If a guy is 'pointing' a knife at me, and is further than 6 feet away, he is not an immediate danger. I can take a leg out from under him in a blink. And only have to fire once. This bullshit of cops shooting someone multiple times is idiocy.

“Shooting to wound” is only for bad movies and TV shows, not for reality. If the situation is serious enough that one us justified in the use of a firearm, you do not ever aim for a limb, hoping to disable the mope. You'll most likely miss, and risk the safety of bystanders from your stray bullet. You aim for center of mass.
 
Senator Ted Cruz urges us to arm ourselves. Jerry Falwell, Jr., urges college students to arm themselves. An elected official in Nevada sends out a Christmas card showing his family armed (and nothing says Christmas quite like a gun!). And of course, The Bloviator, Donald Trump, urging all kinds of mayhem. With these "influential" people urging the unhappy people in the U.S. to arm, is it any wonder?
And a bunch of them do, and most have zero idea about gun safety. And leave them where young children have easy access, or where mentally unstable members of their family can get them. And we see the dailly result in the carnage on the streets of this nation.

And all these inbreds can do is scream we need more guns on the street. No, we do not. And we do not need more people with zero experiance with gun safety packing in public.


there are over 13 million people carrying guns for self defense today..in 2013 there were exactly 505 accidental gun deaths….run those numbers and tell me what that percent is…..so Americans are amazingly responsible gun owners….

Who aren't responsible…….the majority of gun murders are committed by violent, career criminals who murder other career criminals….they reside mainly in democrat controlled areas of the country..

So we should disarm democrats…..that would lower gun violence.
 
Like I said I have no sympathy for criminals who get themselves dead
You apparently have no conscience either. What about someone merely having a psychiatric episode or having drunk a little too much? Do they all deserve to die. What about the cop that "thinks" you're not all you say you are?

I know enough to shut my trap even if a cop is being an asshole

I also know enough not too drink too much and get out of control

As for the mentally ill there is no way to know if some guy pointing a knife at you is merely having an episode is there?
LOL. If a guy is 'pointing' a knife at me, and is further than 6 feet away, he is not an immediate danger. I can take a leg out from under him in a blink. And only have to fire once. This bullshit of cops shooting someone multiple times is idiocy.


You really don't know anything about self defense do you…

Does anyone have a link to the video of the guy in Africa or wherever where he attacks like 7 police officers with a knife..and one of the cops has a rifle…and he cuts or stabs almost all of them……..
 
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So you do not own one semiautomatic rifle?

BEcause that's all these so called "assault weapons " are

I doubt he owns any firearms. its the ben and jerry seminar attendee strategy

pretend you are a gun owner to bash gun owners

pretend you were a Bush voter and then claim Bush was a disaster

its fraudulent
 
If a guy is 'pointing' a knife at me, and is further than 6 feet away, he is not an immediate danger. I can take a leg out from under him in a blink. And only have to fire once. This bullshit of cops shooting someone multiple times is idiocy.

“Shooting to wound” is only for bad movies and TV shows, not for reality. If the situation is serious enough that one us justified in the use of a firearm, you do not ever aim for a limb, hoping to disable the mope. You'll most likely miss, and risk the safety of bystanders from your stray bullet. You aim for center of mass.

Yep.

Shooting to wound only drives home the point to the jurors at your criminal trial that you were never in imminent danger. You obviously had plenty of time to assess the situation and make the decision that your life was not in danger. You'll be found guilty and sent off to prison where you'll me married to the guy with the most cigarettes.

Then, the family of the thug you shot will sue you in civil court. Between them and their lawyer, they'll own everything you've accumulated including your dreams. Some states shield your house from forfeiture but a house without assets won't stay in your family's possession long.
 
These two stories are a telling comparison of the way guns are used here vs. Britain. In London a man stabs several people on the subway, is subdued with a stun gun and arrested. In Miami Beach a man brandishes a razor, injures no one, but is killed by police. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Why can't American police non-fatally subdue a suspect? Are guns and violence that ingrained that no other avenues are considered?

London police treat knife attack as terrorist incident - CNN.com

Video shows Miami Beach police fatally shooting man - CNN.com

Don't despair. These two stories are telling evidence of media sensationalism, not police brutality. A million times a day, American cops deal with similar situations WITHOUT having to kill, and no one ever hears about it. Not sensational enough.
I agree the Bobbies got lucky; especially with only one taser shot.
 
Is there a "gun culture?" Or just citizens who happen to own guns and get tired of being compared to criminals, murderers, mass murderers, and terrorists? So they band together and say, "hey, you know what? Fuck off!"
There is a definate 'gun culture'. As a gun owner that has owned guns for over sixty years, the 'Conservatives' putting guns on a pedestal, and equating regulation of rapid fire high power weapons with tyranny is ample proof of the 'Gun Culture' and it's insanity. And the rest of us pay the price for this insanity.
No, we pay the price of liberalism. They corrupt society with their moral relativism, blame games, lack of discipline and accountability and think the thing they can touch is the source of the problem.
Liberals created this nation, liberty, and capitalism created the rest. If you don't like then get the fuck out.

BTW, plenty of Muslims would agree with you, bin Laden said so.
 
These two stories are a telling comparison of the way guns are used here vs. Britain. In London a man stabs several people on the subway, is subdued with a stun gun and arrested. In Miami Beach a man brandishes a razor, injures no one, but is killed by police. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Why can't American police non-fatally subdue a suspect? Are guns and violence that ingrained that no other avenues are considered?

London police treat knife attack as terrorist incident - CNN.com

Video shows Miami Beach police fatally shooting man - CNN.com
Even if you shoot a guy he can still advance and open you up. It's a judgment call by the cops. You are playing a risky game by waving a knife around. That guy was a loser and I'm happy we don't have to fund his existence any longer.

What I don't understand is why liberals care so deeply about troublesome assholes.
it's about killing a human being, I'm sorry you can't comprehend that....it's murder to kill someone not trying to kill you, and every precaution and step should be taken to NOT kill someone else... WHY is that so hard to understand?

When a guy with a knife moves towards you....how close must he get before it's ok to shoot him? Or is it just never ok until he's digging your jugular vein out?

21 feet in minimum safe distance. The average man can cover that distance in just over 2 seconds.
 
why is it that the ethnic group with the most legal guns has a lower rate of gun violence than white europeans while the ethnic group that votes Democrat 95% of the time and mainly lives in Democrat run cities has a many times higher violent crime rate?

guns don't murder anyone moron-people do


this needs to be repeated….what do all of those countries have in common with the same ethnic group in America that is not using their guns to murder people…
No, your racism and xenophobia is not worthy of repeating.
 
These two stories are a telling comparison of the way guns are used here vs. Britain. In London a man stabs several people on the subway, is subdued with a stun gun and arrested. In Miami Beach a man brandishes a razor, injures no one, but is killed by police. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Why can't American police non-fatally subdue a suspect? Are guns and violence that ingrained that no other avenues are considered?

London police treat knife attack as terrorist incident - CNN.com

Video shows Miami Beach police fatally shooting man - CNN.com
Even if you shoot a guy he can still advance and open you up. It's a judgment call by the cops. You are playing a risky game by waving a knife around. That guy was a loser and I'm happy we don't have to fund his existence any longer.

What I don't understand is why liberals care so deeply about troublesome assholes.
it's about killing a human being, I'm sorry you can't comprehend that....it's murder to kill someone not trying to kill you, and every precaution and step should be taken to NOT kill someone else... WHY is that so hard to understand?

When a guy with a knife moves towards you....how close must he get before it's ok to shoot him? Or is it just never ok until he's digging your jugular vein out?

21 feet in minimum safe distance. The average man can cover that distance in just over 2 seconds.
 
Why can't we be more like Hitler's Germany, Mao's China or Stalin's USSR where only the Government had guns?
Hitler repealed gun restrictions, dummy. just not for Jews.

He only disarmed the people he intended to exterminate. Is that what you support?
You don't want your enemy shooting back at you eh? And my plan is to disarm everyone, so they stop killing each other with guns. After that it's up to you.
 
These two stories are a telling comparison of the way guns are used here vs. Britain. In London a man stabs several people on the subway, is subdued with a stun gun and arrested. In Miami Beach a man brandishes a razor, injures no one, but is killed by police. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Why can't American police non-fatally subdue a suspect? Are guns and violence that ingrained that no other avenues are considered?

London police treat knife attack as terrorist incident - CNN.com

Video shows Miami Beach police fatally shooting man - CNN.com
Even if you shoot a guy he can still advance and open you up. It's a judgment call by the cops. You are playing a risky game by waving a knife around. That guy was a loser and I'm happy we don't have to fund his existence any longer.

What I don't understand is why liberals care so deeply about troublesome assholes.
it's about killing a human being, I'm sorry you can't comprehend that....it's murder to kill someone not trying to kill you, and every precaution and step should be taken to NOT kill someone else... WHY is that so hard to understand?

When a guy with a knife moves towards you....how close must he get before it's ok to shoot him? Or is it just never ok until he's digging your jugular vein out?

21 feet in minimum safe distance. The average man can cover that distance in just over 2 seconds.


The demonstration relies on the shooter standing still while being attacked, when in reality there is no reason the shooter cannot change position, and shoot while doing so.

For close-in work, you'd better have martial arts training, and be assured you will be cut regardless.

The 21' maximum safe distance assumes the shooter has already drawn on the perp, such as in a police confrontation.
 

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