Gun death rates are the highest in mainly red states.

Yowza, you and others are way out of contact with reality.
You are riddled with unnecessary fear.
You are worrying about stuff that will never happen. You will be miserable for no reason.
If by any small chance some of the crazy stuff you fear happens, the actual happening will not be as bad as you living in constant fear.


It happened in Europe......not in the middle ages to some barbarian horde....it happened in modern nation states, with modern universities, democratic institutions, the rule of law, science, philosophy....and they murdered 15-20 million people.......

Please...explain to us how it can't ever happen again.........go ahead, we will wait....
 
Gun death rates are the highest in mainly red states. I would assume these states have fewer gun restrictions.
I would have thought states like New York, Illinois and California have the highest gun death rates based on the news.
It is Montana, Wyoming, Louisiana, New Mexico, Mississippi and Alabama. All but New Mexico are red states

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Are you this stupid in real life
or just when you post..?

This stupid talkimg point about Red states has been taken apart over and
over again...

Red states have blue cities that increase the gun crime rate......you dumb ass..
 
Gun deaths are highest in America.

Governmemt murder of citizens is higher in Europe......

15-20 million in just 6 years

Gun murder in the entire 247 year history of the U.S.?

Around 2,470,000

Tell us.....how many hundreds of yeara will it take the U.S. to catch up to European murder?
 
You're out of reality. It's a historical fact government kill more unarmed people
So you are saying the government is out to get you and everybody else. You live your life looking over your shoulder for the government to get you.
But if the government does not get you, illegal immigrants, non-Christians, non-whites, progressives, people who don't speak english will get you.
I hear you.
In short you are f**ked
 
Here....dipshit....I am very clear.......between 1939-1945 European governments, under the control of left wing socialists from Germany murdered between 15-20 million innocent men, women and children...

Not war dead...these were innocent civilians rounded up, taken to forests or camps and murdered.....

6 years, 15-20 million murdered.....

In the U.S we average about 10,000 gun murders each year......average......over 247 years that is around 2,470,000 murdered by guns......and the vast majority of the victims are not innocents, they are criminals murdered by other criminals....

The Europeans gave up their guns starting in the 1920s, first registering them, then their governments began banning and confiscating them......then, during the German socialist occupation of their countries, those very registration lists were used to round up the remaining guns......and the owners were executed.....

http://hawaii.edu/powerkills/NAZIS.CHAP1.HTM



German socialists

By genocide, the murder of hostages, reprisal raids, forced labor, "euthanasia," starvation, exposure, medical experiments, and terror bombing, and in the concentration and death camps, the Nazis murdered from 15,003,000 to 31,595,000 people, most likely 20,946,000 men, women, handicapped, aged, sick, prisoners of war, forced laborers, camp inmates, critics, homosexuals, Jews, Slavs, Serbs, Germans, Czechs, Italians, Poles, French, Ukrainians, and many others. Among them 1,000,000 were children under eighteen years of age.1

And none of these monstrous figures even include civilian and military combat or war-deaths

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Meanwhile, you dumb ass......Americans use their guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives...according to the Centers for Disease Control.....

1.5 million according to the Department of Justice.....

And the rest of the studies on gun self defense?

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....

The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....

GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)


2021 national firearm survey, Prof. William English, PhD. designed by Deborah Azrael of Harvard T. Chan School of public policy, and Mathew Miller, Northeastern university.......1.67 million defensive uses annually.

CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

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Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


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Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

2021 national firearms survey..

The survey was designed by Deborah Azrael of the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, and Matthew Miller of Northeastern University,
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The survey further finds that approximately a third of gun owners (31.1%) have used a firearm to defend themselves or their property, often on more than one occasion, and it estimates that guns are used defensively by firearms owners in approximately 1.67 million incidents per year. Handguns are the most common firearm employed for self-defense (used in 65.9% of defensive incidents), and in most defensive incidents (81.9%) no shot was fired. Approximately a quarter (25.2%) of defensive incidents occurred within the gun owner's home, and approximately half (53.9%) occurred outside their home, but on their property. About one out of ten (9.1%) defensive gun uses occurred in public, and about one out of twenty (4.8%) occurred at work.
2021 National Firearms Survey

Clinton's study by the DOJ....

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles/165476.pdf

Applying those restrictions leaves 19 NSPOF respondents (0.8 percent of the sample), representing 1.5 million defensive users. This estimate is directly comparable to the well-known estimate of Kleck and Gertz, shown in the last column of exhibit 7. While the NSPOF estimate is smaller, it is statistically plausible that the difference is due to sampling error. Inclusion of multiple DGUs reported by half of the 19 NSPOF respondents increases the estimate to 4.7 million DGUs.



n the third column of Table 6.2, we apply the Kleck and Gertz (1995) criteria for "genuine" DGUs (type A), leaving us with just 19 respondents. They represent 1.5 million defensive users. This estimate is directly comparable to the well-known Kleck and Gertz estimate of 2.5 million, shown in the last

While ours is smaller, it is staistically plausible that the difference is due to sampling error. to the when we include the multiple DGUs victim. defensive reported by half our 19 respondents, our estimate increases to 4.7 milli

While ours is smaller, it is statistically plausible that the difference petrator; in most cases (69 percent), the is due to sampling error. Note that when we include the multiple DGUs reported by half our 19 respondents, our estimate increases to 4.7 million DGUs.
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As shown in Table 6.6, the defender fired his or her gun in 27 percent of these incidents (combined "fire warning shots" and "fire at perpetrator" percentages, though some respondents reported firing both warning shots and airning at the perpetrator). Forty percent of these were "warning shots," and about a third were aimed at the perpetrator but missed. The perpetrator was wounded by the crime victim in eight percent of all DGUs. In nine percent of DGUs the victim captured and held the perpetrator at gunpoint until the police could arrive.

Obama's study...

Defensive Use of Guns

Defensive use of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence, although the exact number remains disputed (Cook and Ludwig, 1996; Kleck, 2001a). Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million (Kleck, 2001a), in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008 (BJS, 2010).
National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine. 2013. Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence. Washington, DC: The National Academies Press. Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence | The National Academies Press.

Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence | Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence | The National Academies Press
I understand your world. You take 1 and 1 and get 5.
Every government you show democide numbers for were taken over by an authoritarian dictator who forced his citizens to war. When these same governments got rid of authoritarian rule the "government murders" (most call wars) the massive murders go away.
The leaders had the same characteristics as Hitler.
"Hitler was a pan-Germanic nationalist whose ideology was built around a philosophically authoritarian, anti-Marxist, antisemitic and anti-democratic worldview."

The description, above, describes Trump and the MAGA movement.

Trump must be defeated to not fall into an authoritarian, nationalist anti-democratic USA that would be more suscptible for Democide.

DEFEAT TRUMP BECAUSE HE POSES THE DANGER OF DEMOCIDE!!!!
 
I understand your world. You take 1 and 1 and get 5.
Every government you show democide numbers for were taken over by an authoritarian dictator who forced his citizens to war. When these same governments got rid of authoritarian rule the "government murders" (most call wars) the massive murders go away.
The leaders had the same characteristics as Hitler.
"Hitler was a pan-Germanic nationalist whose ideology was built around a philosophically authoritarian, anti-Marxist, antisemitic and anti-democratic worldview."

The description, above, describes Trump and the MAGA movement.

Trump must be defeated to not fall into an authoritarian, nationalist anti-democratic USA that would be more suscptible for Democide.

DEFEAT TRUMP BECAUSE HE POSES THE DANGER OF DEMOCIDE!!!!

You are insane.....
 
It happened in Europe......not in the middle ages to some barbarian horde....it happened in modern nation states, with modern universities, democratic institutions, the rule of law, science, philosophy....and they murdered 15-20 million people.......

Please...explain to us how it can't ever happen again.........go ahead, we will wait....
It could happen in the USA if our democracy is defeated by elimination of seperation of powers. That would be a President who degrades the justice system, legislative and our free and fair elections. A person who would organize around nationalist ambitions to motivate citizens. The leader would use fear to keep his citizens behind him. Fear would be flamed by providing groups that the leader claims threaten them like illegal immigrants, those of a different religion, marxists, those of a different race.
 
Are you this stupid in real life
or just when you post..?

This stupid talkimg point about Red states has been taken apart over and
over again...

Red states have blue cities that increase the gun crime rate......you dumb ass..
I provided the stats. I did not make it up. I was surprised. I figured the murder rate would be higher in states with big cities.
Stats are facts. I am not sure where your BS comes from.
 
It could happen in the USA if our democracy is defeated by elimination of seperation of powers. That would be a President who degrades the justice system, legislative and our free and fair elections. A person who would organize around nationalist ambitions to motivate citizens. The leader would use fear to keep his citizens behind him. Fear would be flamed by providing groups that the leader claims threaten them like illegal immigrants, those of a different religion, marxists, those of a different race.

You just described the democrat party
 
So you are saying the government is out to get you and everybody else. You live your life looking over your shoulder for the government to get you.
But if the government does not get you, illegal immigrants, non-Christians, non-whites, progressives, people who don't speak english will get you.
I hear you.
In short you are f**ked
I'm sure 60 million Russians thought as you the Nazi victims thought as you. It will never happen here. Guess what trump gets in office look out
 
I'm sure 60 million Russians thought as you the Nazi victims thought as you. It will never happen here. Guess what trump gets in office look out
Trump is tring to centralize power around him, just like Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini. He is using white nationalism. He emphasizes groups of people as a danger, stoking fear. He is a divider not a uniter.
I am not overly fond of his opposition but please explain to me how they are like Hitler. They are portrayed by Trump as Hitler portrayed his opposition.
Please give me details.
 
Trump is tring to centralize power around him, just like Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini. He is using white nationalism. He emphasizes groups of people as a danger, stoking fear. He is a divider not a uniter.
I am not overly fond of his opposition but please explain to me how they are like Hitler. They are portrayed by Trump as Hitler portrayed his opposition.
Please give me details.
You mean like the demofascists have already done?

Self awareness isn't your strongpoint.
 
It could happen in the USA if our democracy is defeated by elimination of seperation of powers. That would be a President who degrades the justice system, legislative and our free and fair elections. A person who would organize around nationalist ambitions to motivate citizens. The leader would use fear to keep his citizens behind him. Fear would be flamed by providing groups that the leader claims threaten them like illegal immigrants, those of a different religion, marxists, those of a different race.

You just describe
Trump is tring to centralize power around him, just like Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini. He is using white nationalism. He emphasizes groups of people as a danger, stoking fear. He is a divider not a uniter.
I am not overly fond of his opposition but please explain to me how they are like Hitler. They are portrayed by Trump as Hitler portrayed his opposition.
Please give me details.


Wow....you really are stupid......

As the democrats turn the FBI into their STASI, they arrest republicans, they use their courts to indict Trump and his people, they are flooding our country with new slaves who will obey democrats........

You are an idiot...
 
Trump is tring to centralize power around him, just like Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini. He is using white nationalism. He emphasizes groups of people as a danger, stoking fear. He is a divider not a uniter.
I am not overly fond of his opposition but please explain to me how they are like Hitler. They are portrayed by Trump as Hitler portrayed his opposition.
Please give me details.
Good I am glad you see what in store for you
It will be easier to round you traitors up.
 
Are you this stupid in real life
or just when you post..?

This stupid talkimg point about Red states has been taken apart over and
over again...

Red states have blue cities that increase the gun crime rate......you dumb ass..

It does seem there is an identifiable group that binge-watches Joy Reid and hopes ro share their epiphany on a public message board.
 

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