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Um....Wrong.
Criminals will get guns no matter what "gun-control" you have. If we ban all guns, the crime rate will increase or stay the same. The fact is, criminals already don't follow our laws, whether it's gun laws, theft, etc... So what makes you think that they will follow the laws required in gun bans? They'll continue to steal and smuggle firearms to do their work. And unless you can track down every gun that has ever been sold (which you can't) then it won't work. All you will do, is disarm law-abiding citizens while the criminals will carry on as they do now.
Alabama already has firearm regulations.
They would have to perform house to house search and seizures..... and I am willing to bet that wouldnt go down to swell.
I agree, and I think it's retarded to even consider that banning guns is constitutional.
Here's an explanation for you:The prisons are overflowing with Negro people. Why is that?
Much like the bullshit notions posted by Yukon that "Coloured people have a different, more accepting attitude, toward . . . murder." and that "Coloured people have a different, more accepting attitude, toward . . . robbery."Sorry Loki, but most of what you claim is bullshit.
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(BTW: Really . . . where you are? A fucking "reality" TV show? My claims are bullshit?)
Much like the bullshit notions posted by Yukon that "Coloured people have a different, more accepting attitude, toward . . . murder." and that "Coloured people have a different, more accepting attitude, toward . . . robbery."Sorry Loki, but most of what you claim is bullshit.
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(BTW: Really . . . where you are? A fucking "reality" TV show? My claims are bullshit?)
Have you caught up with the program yet?
Much like the bullshit notions posted by Yukon that "Coloured people have a different, more accepting attitude, toward . . . murder." and that "Coloured people have a different, more accepting attitude, toward . . . robbery."Sorry Loki, but most of what you claim is bullshit.
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(BTW: Really . . . where you are? A fucking "reality" TV show? My claims are bullshit?)
Have you caught up with the program yet?
I passed you a long time ago.
Funny that you seem to be completely unable to prove my point wrong in any way, and yet you expect anyone to take what you say as more valid.
Much like the bullshit notions posted by Yukon that "Coloured people have a different, more accepting attitude, toward . . . murder." and that "Coloured people have a different, more accepting attitude, toward . . . robbery."
Have you caught up with the program yet?
I passed you a long time ago.
Funny that you seem to be completely unable to prove my point wrong in any way, and yet you expect anyone to take what you say as more valid.
K K we usually have similar views. But the old dudes opinion although extreme he does have some accurate points...Believe it or not I generally voice my opinion not on Studies,Ideals, Media Points
or opinions of the so called intelectuals..but on life experiences.
I served jury duty on a buy or bust drug case about 10 years ago,the white cops and white DA and white jury was trying to fry a Black guy and myself and Black women saw thru the DA's bullshit and held out for two days and got the guy off. And the reasons the jury gave up and sided with myself and the black women was unbelievable
As follows-- I have to pay a babysitter,I'm gonna loose time at my job,I'm going on vacation and have alot to do first. What bullshit.
It was easy for them to say guilty and get on with there lives than to dissect the case and find the truth. When I asked the DA why she tried such a weak case she said well some times we win them
Jesus what a asshole. And we want to give our government more power Listen to me Old Black dude you do not want the government to have more power just because your black and the President is Black don't think the government is not going to still fry the wrong people.
I passed you a long time ago.
Funny that you seem to be completely unable to prove my point wrong in any way, and yet you expect anyone to take what you say as more valid.
K K we usually have similar views. But the old dudes opinion although extreme he does have some accurate points...Believe it or not I generally voice my opinion not on Studies,Ideals, Media Points
or opinions of the so called intelectuals..but on life experiences.
I served jury duty on a buy or bust drug case about 10 years ago,the white cops and white DA and white jury was trying to fry a Black guy and myself and Black women saw thru the DA's bullshit and held out for two days and got the guy off. And the reasons the jury gave up and sided with myself and the black women was unbelievable
As follows-- I have to pay a babysitter,I'm gonna loose time at my job,I'm going on vacation and have alot to do first. What bullshit.
It was easy for them to say guilty and get on with there lives than to dissect the case and find the truth. When I asked the DA why she tried such a weak case she said well some times we win them
Jesus what a asshole. And we want to give our government more power Listen to me Old Black dude you do not want the government to have more power just because your black and the President is Black don't think the government is not going to still fry the wrong people.
Aah ... but there is what's wrong, in spite of what people want to think we ALL base our opinions more on real life experiences. So now I will share mine, well, the relevant parts.
I grew up in an area where there were only a few black people, to us they were never any different, and they were always treated exactly the same. They also didn't treat us any different or act the way they are often portrayed in rap videos and such. We just thought those stereotypes were just someone trying to make a buck. Eventually I wound up in Indiana, Indianapolis to be precise, and there I saw first hand real prejudice ... toward white people. Really bad prejudice to, blatant and open, and none of them ever got in trouble for it. Then I had made my way to Montana ... an odd place, at first it seemed much like Western Washington, jut bitter cold winters, but soon I saw the prejudice toward blacks. Oddly it was much more subversive and not nearly as bad. The reason it was so much more mild than the black against white racism I witnessed in Indiana was because of hate laws. So my experiences have shown two important facts, hate crime laws cause more problems than they fix, and that everyone is prejudice in some way. The only reason prejudice is hurting people is because both sides demonstrate it toward each other at the same time, then you have what we see in prisons happening, because both people are too busy blaming the other that neither side gets to work toward the truth. Following stereotypes alone is not a problem, it's allowing those stereotypes to dictate how you treat and react to other people that causes the worst mistakes we have.
A small recollection of something I witnessed to demonstrate this effect. A black kid was pulled over, one of those rapper kids with too much time on their hands. The cop wanted to do a routine search for drugs (just happens that most dealers in this area are rapper kid types). The kid didn't have any drugs but instead of just saying okay and gloating when the cop didn't find any he ranted and struggled, forcing the officer to do his job and restrain him. Which of course would annoy anyone who just wanted to make it a quick stop and check. So the cop assumed he was a drug dealer, hell I would have to at that point. Brought in the dogs and everything, did a complete search, found nothing. So then he goes back to the black kid about to let him go with just a warning to next time be a little nicer. The kid starts screaming at the cop again, calling him racist and saying he'll sue, the cop finally snaps and yells "shut the fuck up" back at the kid. This is where the kid only proves he needed to be arrested, he head barrels into the cop. Wound up going to jail for several charges at that point. Then a bunch of black protesters showed up ranting about how the cop was being racist ...
Then one of our more famous cases: A white man was beat to death at a celebration in the middle of Pioneer Square because the cops were too scared of being accused of racism for pulling off the 5 to 8 black kids beating the white one.
You are so far behind, you just think you're ahead.Much like the bullshit notions posted by Yukon that "Coloured people have a different, more accepting attitude, toward . . . murder." and that "Coloured people have a different, more accepting attitude, toward . . . robbery."Sorry Loki, but most of what you claim is bullshit.
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(BTW: Really . . . where you are? A fucking "reality" TV show? My claims are bullshit?)
Have you caught up with the program yet?
I passed you a long time ago.
All right dumbass, GAME ON!Funny that you seem to be completely unable to prove my point wrong in any way, and yet you expect anyone to take what you say as more valid.
You are so far behind, you just think you're ahead.Much like the bullshit notions posted by Yukon that "Coloured people have a different, more accepting attitude, toward . . . murder." and that "Coloured people have a different, more accepting attitude, toward . . . robbery."
Have you caught up with the program yet?
I passed you a long time ago.
All right dumbass, GAME ON!Funny that you seem to be completely unable to prove my point wrong in any way, and yet you expect anyone to take what you say as more valid.
First, you didn't make a fucking point.
Secondly, wherever the fuck you live is entirely irrelevent, as I am absoloutely sure that nation-wide the census of police officers is NOT 50% black and 50 % white, and is in fact, predominantly white.
Thirdly, prosecutors absoultely DO care about the color of their client's skin a) if they are racists, and b) if they think that skin color will have some effect on their success rate. And prosecuting attorneys get raises based on their political value of their convictions rather than rate of convictions. This is the primary reason these guys are not so enthusiastic about the findings of Project Innocence.
Fourthly, Judge Joe Brown; is that a real court room? Are you suggesting that because Judge Brown is a black man, the judges in this country are NOT predominantly white? Are you suggesting that because Judge Brown makes no excuses because of being black nor allows others to, that other judges, other white judges, simply cannot be racially biased and cannot make excuses because of being white or allows others to? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
Fifthly, the jury selection process is notoriously ineffective at eliminating racists from the jury box. If it's so effective, explain how so many white juries had the death penalty verdicts they passed on black men overturned by DNA evidence later--these cases were apparently so air-fucking-tight that 12 white people unanimously were willing to put a black man to death, and at the end of the day, the only thing particularly air-tight about the defendant was that he was black.
And finally, you obtuse retard, now that you have all that in response to your nothing; so that you can finally catch up with what I was actually about--I didn't play the white racist justice sytem card because I subscribe to the notion that it's valid, but rather to illuminate for dumbfuck Yukon (and now dumbfuck you) that there's a distinct difference between the facts of a matter, and the interpretation of those facts--one is objective and the other is subjective--and the subjective interpretation of facts are NOT the fucking facts of the matter.
So, just so you and Yukon can get it absolutely clear in your pointy idiot's heads: The population of black folks in prison is NO INDICATION that black skin causes people to commit crimes or that black people commit more crime, but rather that black people are convicted of crime more often. And do not fucking make the mistake that I'm sure you're about to--the undisputed fact that the police, the prosecutors, the judges, the juries and the defenders that are involved in convicting more blacks of crimes than whites are white, is NO INDICATION that white skin causes racism, or that white people are more racist than black people, but rather that where racism exists, any amount of racism in a community that is so predominantly white as ours is going to bias conviction rates towards black folks.
I'll PM you my address....and you can come try to take this from me if you want.
The police forces in the US are comprised of predominantly white folks.
The prosecuting attorneys in the US are comprised of predominantly white folks
The judges in the US are comprised of predominantly white folks.
The juries in the US are comprised of predominantly white folks.
The defending attorneys in the US are comprised of predominantly white folks.
If these white folks believe as you do that naturally darker skin pigmentation carries with it a natural predisposition to commit crime, then it is not at all surprising that white cops .
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU GOING ON ABOUT?Loki: Hmm ... so if blacks ARE still a minority then you expect all blacks to become police officers just so it's even? Or are you instead admitting that black people are no longer a minority and therefore no longer need that status for protection, thus instead the white people now need minority status and therefore we should be the ones to get the protection instead?
Way to go Sherlock! Got any more amazing discoveries?Here's something about being a minority, it means there are not as many of that type as others, thus of course in most places there will be more of the majority than the minority, it's simple mathematics.
HOLY FUCK! You're just understaning that right now? You've come a long fucking way from "Asserting 'the police force is predominantly white' is bullshit, because where I'm from it's mostly 50/50." Way to go!So showing that more people of one type are in the police force nation wide only demonstrates the basic mathematical principle of percentages and odds, it does not demonstrate any form of prejudice.
Showing that more black people are in prisons only demonstrates that more blacks are convicted of crime, NOT that more criminals are black. I hope you don't say somewhere in this post that you use logic and excel at mathmatics.Showing that more black people are in prisons only demonstrates that more criminals are black, . . .
If criminal behavior is not caused by race, yet blacks are convicted of crimes by a predominantly white justice sytem more often than chance can account for, then I'd say it certainly suggests some kind of racial bias.. . . not that the legal system is being prejudice.
Over 70% of death-row convictions overturned by DNA evidence are convictions of minority members. Seems like alot of wrongfully accused right there. Considering that ~75% of the nation is white, and ~12% of the nation is black. Or is 70% not "alot" mathematically?The only possible way to prove it would be to actually show it, thus show a lot of innocent black people in prisons wrongly accused.
Really? What kind of evidence do you need? MTV's "The Real World?"Thing is that so far the evidence has shown that to not be true.
Do you say this because the accused can be innocent OR guilty, black OR white, wrongfully convicted OR rightfully convicted . . . this suggests it should all be about 50/50 to you?Of those wrongfully convicted less than half are black (which again follows basic mathematics) . . .
Where did you get this magical statistic regarding criminals not convicted? "Oh there's criminals out there, and 30% are black and 30% are white. All 50/50 like I've been saying.". . . and of those criminals still untried about 30% are black, but still only a third are white, which still follows the rule of odds accounting for all other races in the country.
Well, I'm certainly not looking at the made-up sources to make someone else look bad . . .So, either you are only looking at a tiny portion of the data and excluding all other possible sources, or you are being dishonest to make someone else look bad (which has far worse implications).
I don't accept your bullshit false dichotomy.Which is it?
Oh really? Like this gem?To get an accurate picture you must first travel a lot (I did that myself) then use logic (I only use logic) . . .
Yeah, like 6:1 = 1:1. ur math skillz rox0r.. . . and finally grasp mathematics (which I excel at).
Oh? You know this? My people don't know what "whinning" is--your people know so much.The police forces in the US are comprised of predominantly white folks.
The prosecuting attorneys in the US are comprised of predominantly white folks
The judges in the US are comprised of predominantly white folks.
The juries in the US are comprised of predominantly white folks.
The defending attorneys in the US are comprised of predominantly white folks.
If these white folks believe as you do that naturally darker skin pigmentation carries with it a natural predisposition to commit crime, then it is not at all surprising that white cops .
Mr Loki,
You "people" are still whinning and crying racism.
Not so pathetic, sad, or sickening as a racist.You are so pathetic, so sad, so sickening.
Which means we won't be racist retards, which is just fine with us.You'll never be anything else.
I'm not sure that negros are interested in your "eduaction", but no, I'm not saying any of this.All of the bad things that happen to the Negro - the jails, the executions, the lack of eduaction, bad jobs, etc, etc - it's all the fault of good ole "Whitey" isn't it Mr Loki?
Evolve.Grow up..................
Showing that more black people are in prisons only demonstrates that more blacks are convicted of crime, NOT that more criminals are black. I hope you don't say somewhere in this post that you use logic and excel at mathmatics.
