Handguns vs. AR-15s

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

You realize that you can't put a .223 through a 9mm, right?

But hollow point 9mm does as much, if not more, damage than a .223.

 

[DarthTrader]

You realize that you can't put a .223 through a 9mm, right?

I can put a hollow point into it.

 

[Canon Shooter]

...and what is the fucking point?

Hell if I know...

 

[DarthTrader]

But hollow point 9mm does as much, if not more, damage than a .223.

Exactly. What are these farsical morons like todsterpatriot? They just ignore what we say and the evidence we provide.

 

[Canon Shooter]

I can put a hollow point into it.

That's super. I have hollowpoints in my .380.

Neither is going to fuck someone up like an .223 will...

 

[Canon Shooter]

But hollow point 9mm does as much, if not more, damage than a .223.

I'm not so sure about that.

After all, if you can put 'em in a 9mm, I can put 'em in a .223:

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Hell if I know...

The point is that the OP is a stupid gun grabber pretending to be some sort of "conservative" but he jacked off to John Kasich--Mr. 1994 Assault Weapons Ban--so, that tells you who g5000 is.

 

[BluesLegend]

Routine handgun injuries leave entry and exit wounds and linear tracks through the victim’s body that are roughly the size of the bullet.

Joe Biden says you are wrong, 9mm handgun bullets "blow up lungs".

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

That's super. I have hollowpoints in my .380.

Neither is going to fuck someone up like an .223 will...

Agree to disagree.

 

[BluesLegend]

The 7.62x39 is the quintessential cop killer because anything but level 4 body armor won't stop it. You should see the damage that cartridge does compared to a 5.56.

Nobody is proposing to ban my .338 win mag rifle and it will stop a Polar bear.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Nobody is proposing to ban my .338 win mag rifle and it will stop a Polar bear.

It will stop a Dodge 3500 too.

 

[g5000]

Nobody is proposing to ban my .338 win mag rifle and it will stop a Polar bear.

Probably because it is bolt action and thus not the preferred weapon of school shooters.

 

[martybegan]

But hollow point 9mm does as much, if not more, damage than a .223.

Also, for urban situations aren't hollow points also preferred because they have less of a chance of blowing through walls, windows, and the person being shot and causing unwanted hits/damage?

 

[BrokeLoser]

The 7.62x39 is the quintessential cop killer because anything but level 4 body armor won't stop it. You should see the damage that cartridge does compared to a 5.56.

Oh trust me I know…my Russian SKS with bayonet is my favorite rifle…the thing just shreds shit.
But but but woke racist tards like g5000 and Fort Fun Indiana never thought to bring that up when toads in Compton were killing each other and kids in car seats….they waited until whitey and barely legal beaners were getting smoked by AR’s….FUCK everything these worthless pieces of shit have to say.

 

[BluesLegend]

Probably because it is bolt action and thus not the preferred weapon of school shooters.

Yet. I finished that sentence for you. Alcohol kills a lot more kids, when are you going to ban alcohol?? Hell the leading cause of death among young people today is Fentanyl trafficked into our country by Biden's illegals and open borders. 79,000 Americans KILLED DEAD in just the past 2 years yet the borders are still open and Biden continues to allow them to flood into the country.

I'll summarize, Dems are lying scum!

 

[JusticeHammer]

There are voices saying maybe it is time to show the photos of the dead kids who are killed by mass shooters so the public can see just how horrific AR-15s are. Example: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/06/01/uvalde-mass-shootings-graphic-images/

This was very effective when Emmett Till's mother insisted her son's funeral be an open casket and that his body be shown in the papers so everyone could see what the racist assholes who murdered him had done. The photo of Till's body shocked the public and sentiment began turning against the segregationist South.

I have mixed feelings about showing the bodies of these small children. At the very least, it would have to be done with the permission of the parents.

But I think it would be helpful for the public to understand just how horrific these so-called "weapons of war" really are.

Routine handgun injuries leave entry and exit wounds and linear tracks through the victim’s body that are roughly the size of the bullet. If the bullet does not directly hit something crucial like the heart or the aorta, and the victim does not bleed to death before being transported to our care at the trauma center, chances are that we can save him. The bullets fired by an AR-15 are different: They travel at a higher velocity and are far more lethal than routine bullets fired from a handgun. The damage they cause is a function of the energy they impart as they pass through the body. A typical AR-15 bullet leaves the barrel traveling almost three times faster than—and imparting more than three times the energy of—a typical 9mm bullet from a handgun. An AR-15 rifle outfitted with a magazine with 50 rounds allows many more lethal bullets to be delivered quickly without reloading.

I have seen a handful of AR-15 injuries in my career. Years ago I saw one from a man shot in the back by a swat team. The injury along the path of the bullet from an AR-15 is vastly different from a low-velocity handgun injury. The bullet from an AR-15 passes through the body like a cigarette boat traveling at maximum speed through a tiny canal. The tissue next to the bullet is elastic—moving away from the bullet like waves of water displaced by the boat—and then returns and settles back. This process is called cavitation; it leaves the displaced tissue damaged or killed. The high-velocity bullet causes a swath of tissue damage that extends several inches from its path. It does not have to actually hit an artery to damage it and cause catastrophic bleeding. Exit wounds can be the size of an orange.

With an AR-15, the shooter does not have to be particularly accurate. The victim does not have to be unlucky. If a victim takes a direct hit to the liver from an AR-15, the damage is far graver than that of a simple handgun-shot injury. Handgun injuries to the liver are generally survivable unless the bullet hits the main blood supply to the liver. An AR-15 bullet wound to the middle of the liver would cause so much bleeding that the patient would likely never make it to the trauma center to receive our care.

What I Saw Treating the Victims From Parkland Should Change the Debate on Guns

They weren’t the first mass-shooting victims the Florida radiologist saw—but their wounds were radically different.

www.theatlantic.com

Just like idiots on the left to use dead kids. Shameless demscum. Second Amendment doesn't specify what guns you can or cannot have. My AR-15 will stay in my possession no matter what you commies or Joe says.

 

[whitehall]

Brandon wants to ban 9mm rifles but there aren't nine mm rifles. Ever see what they do to full term babies in the horrific procedure known as partial birth abortion? They throw these kids in the garbage but what if they laid out one of these babies for everyone to see and it's head looked like a dried up apple? Why not show them in the abortion debate? An AR-15 does a lot of damage but so does any deer rifle or a shotgun especially loaded with oo buck. Confiscate 'em all and let God sort them out?

 

[BlackSand]

Compare the damage an AR-15 and a 9mm handgun can do to the human body:

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If you are going to make a comparison, it is important to make the comparison accurately.

If I shoot someone with a 5.56 ... I am going to pull the trigger once.
If I shoot someone with the 9mm ... They are going to take 3 center mass before I stop pulling the trigger.

The object is to eliminate the threat ... The dying part is optimal if deadly force is called for.

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[DarthTrader]

Brandon wants to ban 9mm rifles but there aren't nine mm rifles. Ever see what they do to full term babies in the horrific procedure known as partial birth abortion? They throw these kids in the garbage but what if they laid out one of these babies for everyone to see and it's head looked like a dried up apple? Why not show them in the abortion debate? An AR-15 does a lot of damage but so does any deer rifle or a shotgun especially loaded with oo buck. Confiscate 'em all and let God sort them out?

There are 9mm rifles. 13 Affordable 9mm Carbine Options (2022)

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yeah I know that but at least I tried, gave him the benefit of the doubt that he might start thinking rationally. Didn't happen.

Is that what you call your slithering and tap dancing? Okay.

From where I sit, you realized how bad you made yourself look. And barely cared, but did care a little.