Harry reid ready to rush through internet sales tax; obama endorses

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Devils Advocate here but consider this will you....

I lose about 50% of plumbing hardware sales to the internet. On an average job that would total about 2k. And thats just me. One small business.

Imagine if the internet had to compete on a level playing field. Imagine the possible boom to local retailers if their competition on the internet didn't get an automatic leg up.

For things not available locally, I should pay premium prices? Or I should be forced to buy materials in huge quantities just because the cost of shipping is already outrageous? Do you really think its a bargain to buy off the internet?
Example: I make soap. I need sodium hydroxide to make soap, about 24 oz per batch of soap. To order 5 or 10 lbs of sodium hydroxide, I end up paying almost $100 to have it shipped, if I can find a vendor who will ship it. So I am forced to buy 50 lb bags of the stuff locally. Cheaper, yes, but now I have a boatload of caustic soda to store safely until I can use it. Well, I guess I could sell small batches to the local meth makers. (Which is why you cannot buy sodium hydroxide in the 2lb cans like we used to be able to.) Government regulations DO NOT make things better. Government regulations SUCK. Government is not your friend, whether you own a "brick and mortar" place or whether you sell on the net. Do you honestly think that punishing the competition is going to help your business enough to warrant the cost of supporting yet more government bureaucracy and regulation?

Either tax my competition like you do me or remove the tax from me. Equal treatment is a no brainer.

 

[gallantwarrior]

The last sale I lost to the internet was over 10k and included this. That was alot of profit that just *poofed* up in smoke because of the no tax shit.

72" Paige Bateau Hammered Copper Double Slipper Bath Tub with Nickel Interior | Signature Hardware

You'd charge over $13,000 for a bathtub? Even including installation, that's highway robbery.
But again, when people had freedom to use their earned money to buy what they wanted, instead of being coerced into supporting a bloated, wasteful government that robs them of them income in order to re-distribute it to those deemed more worthy to have it (by government), people could afford extravagances without having to shop for bargain basement prices.
Get government out of our businesses, that would be once helluva giant step towards fixing so much of the damage.

 

[gallantwarrior]

starve the beast and weaken it so it can be easily drown in the bathtub.

The only thing the right in this country would be willing to spend on is a bathtub big enough to kill it in

I could sell you one but I bet you would buy it off the net anyhow to avoid the taxes

Hell, I'd buy it off the net to avoid that $10,000 markup!

 

[paulitician]

Big Brotha gotta get his. It's a real shame so many so-called 'Conservative' Republicans supported this. I mean, you expect it from the Socialists/Progressives, but what the hell's up with all those Republicans who supported it? Shame on em.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The last sale I lost to the internet was over 10k and included this. That was alot of profit that just *poofed* up in smoke because of the no tax shit.

72" Paige Bateau Hammered Copper Double Slipper Bath Tub with Nickel Interior | Signature Hardware

You'd charge over $13,000 for a bathtub? Even including installation, that's highway robbery.
But again, when people had freedom to use their earned money to buy what they wanted, instead of being coerced into supporting a bloated, wasteful government that robs them of them income in order to re-distribute it to those deemed more worthy to have it (by government), people could afford extravagances without having to shop for bargain basement prices.
Get government out of our businesses, that would be once helluva giant step towards fixing so much of the damage.

How did you get 13k out of that?

The average bath remodel is between 18k and 22k TOTAL

That tub was just one recent example of lost money due to internet tax issues.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Devils Advocate here but consider this will you....

I lose about 50% of plumbing hardware sales to the internet. On an average job that would total about 2k. And thats just me. One small business.

Imagine if the internet had to compete on a level playing field. Imagine the possible boom to local retailers if their competition on the internet didn't get an automatic leg up.

For things not available locally, I should pay premium prices? Or I should be forced to buy materials in huge quantities just because the cost of shipping is already outrageous? Do you really think its a bargain to buy off the internet?
Example: I make soap. I need sodium hydroxide to make soap, about 24 oz per batch of soap. To order 5 or 10 lbs of sodium hydroxide, I end up paying almost $100 to have it shipped, if I can find a vendor who will ship it. So I am forced to buy 50 lb bags of the stuff locally. Cheaper, yes, but now I have a boatload of caustic soda to store safely until I can use it. Well, I guess I could sell small batches to the local meth makers. (Which is why you cannot buy sodium hydroxide in the 2lb cans like we used to be able to.) Government regulations DO NOT make things better. Government regulations SUCK. Government is not your friend, whether you own a "brick and mortar" place or whether you sell on the net. Do you honestly think that punishing the competition is going to help your business enough to warrant the cost of supporting yet more government bureaucracy and regulation?

Either tax my competition like you do me or remove the tax from me. Equal treatment is a no brainer.

Hey, I'm all for removing that tax from you, absolutely. It's our government reps who look at everything under heaven and upon earth as some kind of revenue generating piggy bank to be tapped at will.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

starve the beast and weaken it so it can be easily drown in the bathtub.

The only thing the right in this country would be willing to spend on is a bathtub big enough to kill it in

I could sell you one but I bet you would buy it off the net anyhow to avoid the taxes

Hell, I'd buy it off the net to avoid that $10,000 markup!

WTF are you talking about? You think they ordered a copper tub and didnt buy any other updates for the SAME ROOM???

Copper tub
2 copper sinks
High end fixtures for all those plus the shower.

Get it?

Geez

 

[Synthaholic]

The last sale I lost to the internet was over 10k and included this. That was alot of profit that just *poofed* up in smoke because of the no tax shit.

72" Paige Bateau Hammered Copper Double Slipper Bath Tub with Nickel Interior | Signature Hardware

You'd charge over $13,000 for a bathtub? Even including installation, that's highway robbery.
But again, when people had freedom to use their earned money to buy what they wanted, instead of being coerced into supporting a bloated, wasteful government that robs them of them income in order to re-distribute it to those deemed more worthy to have it (by government), people could afford extravagances without having to shop for bargain basement prices.
Get government out of our businesses, that would be once helluva giant step towards fixing so much of the damage.

^^^Moron who can't read.

 

[Synthaholic]

For things not available locally, I should pay premium prices? Or I should be forced to buy materials in huge quantities just because the cost of shipping is already outrageous? Do you really think its a bargain to buy off the internet?
Example: I make soap. I need sodium hydroxide to make soap, about 24 oz per batch of soap. To order 5 or 10 lbs of sodium hydroxide, I end up paying almost $100 to have it shipped, if I can find a vendor who will ship it. So I am forced to buy 50 lb bags of the stuff locally. Cheaper, yes, but now I have a boatload of caustic soda to store safely until I can use it. Well, I guess I could sell small batches to the local meth makers. (Which is why you cannot buy sodium hydroxide in the 2lb cans like we used to be able to.) Government regulations DO NOT make things better. Government regulations SUCK. Government is not your friend, whether you own a "brick and mortar" place or whether you sell on the net. Do you honestly think that punishing the competition is going to help your business enough to warrant the cost of supporting yet more government bureaucracy and regulation?

Either tax my competition like you do me or remove the tax from me. Equal treatment is a no brainer.

Hey, I'm all for removing that tax from you, absolutely. It's our government reps who look at everything under heaven and upon earth as some kind of revenue generating piggy bank to be tapped at will.

^^^^Thinks freedom is free.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Big Brotha gotta get his. It's a real shame so many so-called 'Conservative' Republicans supported this. I mean, you expect it from the Socialists/Progressives, but what the hell's up with all those Republicans who supported it? Shame on em.

Yeah, shame on me for being unable to compete with unfair tax practices.

I have even had customers order their stone online from Canada. High end Onyx. The internet as it is currently set up is a business killer.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Just think of the good that could be done by worthless politicians with that additional confiscated wealth........Eh comrades

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Just think of the good that could be done by worthless politicians with that additional confiscated wealth........Eh comrades

The tax would goto local municipalities would it not?

I have no problem with that.

 

[paulitician]

Big Brotha gotta get his. It's a real shame so many so-called 'Conservative' Republicans supported this. I mean, you expect it from the Socialists/Progressives, but what the hell's up with all those Republicans who supported it? Shame on em.

Yeah, shame on me for being unable to compete with unfair tax practices.

I have even had customers order their stone online from Canada. High end Onyx. The internet as it is currently set up is a business killer.

Sorry, but you guys sound just like Socialist/Progressive Entitlement Hounds when you whine about things being so unfair. No real Conservative could support this.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Big Brotha gotta get his. It's a real shame so many so-called 'Conservative' Republicans supported this. I mean, you expect it from the Socialists/Progressives, but what the hell's up with all those Republicans who supported it? Shame on em.

Yeah, shame on me for being unable to compete with unfair tax practices.

I have even had customers order their stone online from Canada. High end Onyx. The internet as it is currently set up is a business killer.

Sorry, but you guys sound just like Socialist/Progressive Entitlement Hounds when you whine about things being so unfair. No real Conservative could support this.

Clearly I do and you can fuck off with your stupid insults.

By your reasoning no real conservative would want the bottom half of our country to be taxed.

 

[paulitician]

Yeah, shame on me for being unable to compete with unfair tax practices.

I have even had customers order their stone online from Canada. High end Onyx. The internet as it is currently set up is a business killer.

Sorry, but you guys sound just like Socialist/Progressive Entitlement Hounds when you whine about things being so unfair. No real Conservative could support this.

Clearly I do and you can fuck off with your stupid insults.

By your reasoning no real conservative would want the bottom half of our country to be taxed.

You feel you're entitled to steal more money from Taxpayers because you think it's unfair and you deserve it. And that's exactly how the Socialist/Progressive Entitlement moochers feel about things. I think it's pretty clear you're a Progressive-leaning Neo-Conservative. I can't say you're a real Conservative at this point. And that's very disappointing.

 

[Truthmatters]

where in the constitution does it say taxes are theft?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Sorry, but you guys sound just like Socialist/Progressive Entitlement Hounds when you whine about things being so unfair. No real Conservative could support this.

Clearly I do and you can fuck off with your stupid insults.

By your reasoning no real conservative would want the bottom half of our country to be taxed.

You feel you're entitled to steal more money from Taxpayers because you think it's unfair and you deserve it. And that's exactly how the Socialist/Progressive Entitlement moochers feel about things. I think it's pretty clear you're a Progressive-leaning Neo-Conservative. I can't say you're a real Conservative at this point. And that's very disappointing.

Steal? Do you have any idea how labor intensive my fucking job is? Most internet retailers already beat most prices because they have no overhead as compared to brick and morter businesses. Then you give them the unfair advantage of no taxes and IM THE ONE STEALING?

Again fuck you!

You just want cheap products and don't care about the impact of you saving a few dollars. In most cases my cost is higher than internet prices before taxes or profit are figured in. Am I supposed to give shit away for free?

 

[paulitician]

where in the constitution does it say taxes are theft?

Our Founding Fathers had a bit of a problem with excessive Taxation (Theft) back in the day. Stealing from fellow Citizens because you think things are unfair, is Bullshit theft. And that's all this is. Republicans who supported this, should be ashamed of themselves. They're no better than you Socialist/Progressive Entitlement moochers.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

where in the constitution does it say taxes are theft?

Just shut up. Your clucking helps no one.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Just another government money grab, supported by retailers.....the internet has changed alot of things in life, retailers are upset, but they will still be needed and I shouldnt have to pay income tax.

Sales tax over the internet would be interstate commerce....so lets ditch the income tax and make a federal sales tax...voila!!!! everyone is happy.