Harry reid ready to rush through internet sales tax; obama endorses

[Synthaholic]

Yet another job-killing, business-killing, bullshit piece of legislation brought to you by the current regime.

You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Internet business have an unfair advantage, especially on large purchases. Just ask Guitar Center. Someone buying a $3,000 mixing board that they have already researched and know that they want is faced with a choice of paying an extra $210 to buy it locally (based on a 7% sales tax).

Only those totally skittish about buying online would take that choice. So that ends up costing your community - schools/fire/police/roads, etc. - and only enriches the Jeff Bezos of the world.

Shut up idiot, then cut the sales tax most places charge a shipping fee for internet sales only liberal idiots like you think creating more bureaucracy giving the federal government more power, and taking more money out of poor people’s pockets is a good thing you're a brainless fool

Just because you're an internet business, you do not have a right to a profit.

If they cannot compete on a level playing field, they go out of business.

Welcome to the real world, dumbass.

 

[Jroc]

You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Internet business have an unfair advantage, especially on large purchases. Just ask Guitar Center. Someone buying a $3,000 mixing board that they have already researched and know that they want is faced with a choice of paying an extra $210 to buy it locally (based on a 7% sales tax).

Only those totally skittish about buying online would take that choice. So that ends up costing your community - schools/fire/police/roads, etc. - and only enriches the Jeff Bezos of the world.

Shut up idiot, then cut the sales tax most places charge a shipping fee for internet sales only liberal idiots like you think creating more bureaucracy giving the federal government more power, and taking more money out of poor people’s pockets is a good thing you're a brainless fool

Just because you're an internet business, you do not have a right to a profit.

If they cannot compete on a level playing field, they go out of business.

Welcome to the real world, dumbass.

No business has the right to a profit idiot, you make a profit or go out of business that the way it's supposed to work. Most business on the internet are small business trying to make a profit, they can't afford to buy politicians idiot

 

[Brain357]

I can hardly believe anyone actually supports this idea. Do we really need the government to slow down the economy? All this is going to do is take more money out of the economy and put it in the the governments hands. Sure way to slow the economy. If they want revenue they should strengthen the economy so more people have jobs and hence more pay taxes.

Liberals should be against this as it taxes the poor and rich equally by charging the same rate. This of course is much more difficult for the poor to afford as it's a much higher % of their income to taxes for the same priced item.

Giving everyone less to spend is very bad for the economy.

And it has nothing to do with making it fair for brick and mortar companies. Most my online buying is because local companies either don't have what I want or they are charging insanely high prices. A sales tax will not change where I spend my money. I always by local if it is in stock and they aren't trying to hose me.

 

[velvtacheeze]

Rush through? What's the matter with you? Rush through. Please.

This has been way overdue, and 74 Senators voted for it.

The scofflaws who have been skipping out on paying their fair share will eventually be brought to heel.

"Way overdue" you're an idiot who gives a shit how many Senators voted for it hopefully it'll die in the house taxing small business on the internet which favors big retailers like Wal-Mart but will do nothing to help the economy in this country. Crony capitalism you liberals seem to love it and so do fake ass Republicans

Sure, the gerrymandered House may stop it, for now, but not forever. The retail lobby is fully behind bringing online retailers into the fold, and they are not some Acorn-like bunch of hippy-dippys.

The online retailers free-ride will end one day soon, and thank you notes from them for not including back taxes should be a part of it.

 

[Crackerjaxon]

You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Internet business have an unfair advantage, especially on large purchases. Just ask Guitar Center. Someone buying a $3,000 mixing board that they have already researched and know that they want is faced with a choice of paying an extra $210 to buy it locally (based on a 7% sales tax).

Only those totally skittish about buying online would take that choice. So that ends up costing your community - schools/fire/police/roads, etc. - and only enriches the Jeff Bezos of the world.

Shut up idiot, then cut the sales tax most places charge a shipping fee for internet sales only liberal idiots like you think creating more bureaucracy giving the federal government more power, and taking more money out of poor people’s pockets is a good thing you're a brainless fool

Just because you're an internet business, you do not have a right to a profit.

If they cannot compete on a level playing field, they go out of business.

Welcome to the real world, dumbass.

Just because you are a brainless statist, you do not have the right to take money from small businesses.

The internet actually does level the playing field. People with good ideas and little money can promote their products without huge startup costs.

I understand that concepts smacks too much of free enterprise for statist mooks with their hands out, but maybe you could wrap your mind around it in a year or two if you work hard at it.

I'm rooting for you.

 

[Brain357]

thus why amazon quit selling into every state.

From what I read today, Amazon is one company that is fighting FOR this legislation. I'm about ready to boycott their ass.

Pretty sure Amazon is building warehouses all over so they will have have to collect sales tax from most states regardless of this legislation. Hence why they are ok with it now.

 

[Anitabeme]

I hate to tell you, but that online Viagra is fake, dude.

Experience?

No, I actually pay attention to news, and shit.

I know: only Liberals like all that learnin' and cypherin'.

You might want to turn off the Idiot Box.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Shut up idiot, then cut the sales tax most places charge a shipping fee for internet sales only liberal idiots like you think creating more bureaucracy giving the federal government more power, and taking more money out of poor people’s pockets is a good thing you're a brainless fool

Just because you're an internet business, you do not have a right to a profit.

If they cannot compete on a level playing field, they go out of business.

Welcome to the real world, dumbass.

Just because you are a brainless statist, you do not have the right to take money from small businesses.

The internet actually does level the playing field. People with good ideas and little money can promote their products without huge startup costs.

I understand that concepts smacks too much of free enterprise for statist mooks with their hands out, but maybe you could wrap your mind around it in a year or two if you work hard at it.

I'm rooting for you.

Don't waste your time and effort, you imply that there is a mind present to be wrapped around the concept.

 

[Crackerjaxon]

Just because you're an internet business, you do not have a right to a profit.

If they cannot compete on a level playing field, they go out of business.

Welcome to the real world, dumbass.

Just because you are a brainless statist, you do not have the right to take money from small businesses.

The internet actually does level the playing field. People with good ideas and little money can promote their products without huge startup costs.

I understand that concepts smacks too much of free enterprise for statist mooks with their hands out, but maybe you could wrap your mind around it in a year or two if you work hard at it.

I'm rooting for you.

Don't waste your time and effort, you imply that there is a mind present to be wrapped around the concept.

I'm an optimist at heart. Can't help it.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Just because you are a brainless statist, you do not have the right to take money from small businesses.

The internet actually does level the playing field. People with good ideas and little money can promote their products without huge startup costs.

I understand that concepts smacks too much of free enterprise for statist mooks with their hands out, but maybe you could wrap your mind around it in a year or two if you work hard at it.

I'm rooting for you.

Don't waste your time and effort, you imply that there is a mind present to be wrapped around the concept.

I'm an optimist at heart. Can't help it.

I understand.

 

[Doubletap]

Tax his land, tax his wage,
Tax his bed in which he lays.
Tax his tractor, tax his mule,
Teach him taxes is the rule.

Tax his cow, tax his goat,
Tax his pants, tax his coat.
Tax his ties, tax his shirts,
Tax his work, tax his dirt.

Tax his chew, tax his smoke,
Teach him taxes are no joke.
Tax his car, tax his grass,
Tax the roads he must pass.

Tax his food, tax his drink,
Tax him if he tries to think.
Tax his sodas, tax his beers,
If he cries, tax his tears.

Tax his bills, tax his gas,
Tax his notes, tax his cash.
Tax him good and let him know
That after taxes, he has no dough.

If he hollers, tax him more,
Tax him until he's good and sore.
Tax his coffin, tax his grave,
Tax the sod in which he lays.

Put these words upon his tomb,
"Taxes drove me to my doom!"
And when he's gone, we won't relax,

We'll still be after the inheritance tax.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Tax his land, tax his wage,
Tax his bed in which he lays.
Tax his tractor, tax his mule,
Teach him taxes is the rule.

Tax his cow, tax his goat,
Tax his pants, tax his coat.
Tax his ties, tax his shirts,
Tax his work, tax his dirt.

Tax his chew, tax his smoke,
Teach him taxes are no joke.
Tax his car, tax his grass,
Tax the roads he must pass.

Tax his food, tax his drink,
Tax him if he tries to think.
Tax his sodas, tax his beers,
If he cries, tax his tears.

Tax his bills, tax his gas,
Tax his notes, tax his cash.
Tax him good and let him know
That after taxes, he has no dough.

If he hollers, tax him more,
Tax him until he's good and sore.
Tax his coffin, tax his grave,
Tax the sod in which he lays.

Put these words upon his tomb,
"Taxes drove me to my doom!"
And when he's gone, we won't relax,

We'll still be after the inheritance tax.

What is that, the new Democrat platform?

 

[thereisnospoon]

Harry Reid and Wal-Mart hope nobody will notice their online revenue raid.

By The Wall Street Journal

Every time Congress has taken a serious look at proposals to boost Internet sales taxes, it has rejected them. That’s probably why pro-tax Senators are trying to rush through an online tax hike with as little consideration as possible.

As early as Monday, the Senate will vote on a bill that was introduced only last Tuesday. The text of this legislation, which would fundamentally change interstate commerce, only became available on the Library of Congress website over the weekend. And you thought ObamaCare was jammed through Nancy Pelosi‘s Democratic House in a hurry.

For Senators curious about what they’re voting on, it is the same flawed proposal that Mike Enzi (R., Wyo.) introduced in February. It has been repackaged to qualify for a Senate rule that allows Majority Leader Harry Reid to bypass committee debate and bring it straight to the floor.

Mr. Enzi’s Marketplace Fairness Act discriminates against Internet-based businesses by imposing burdens that it does not apply to brick-and-mortar companies. For the first time, online merchants would be forced to collect sales taxes for all of America’s estimated 9,600 state and local taxing authorities.

New Hampshire, for example, has no sales tax, but a Granite State Web merchant would be forced to collect and remit sales taxes to all the governments that do. Small online sellers will therefore have to comply with tax laws created by distant governments in which they have no representation, and in places where they consume no local services.

Meanwhile, New Hampshire’s brick-and-mortar retailers will bear no such burden. They will not be required to collect taxes on the many customers who drive across the Maine and Massachusetts borders to shop in New Hampshire. Bill sponsors say it would be too big a hassle to force traditional retailers to ask every walk-in customer where they live, but these Senators are happy to impose new obligations online.

The Enzi plan would require a centralized tax collector for each state or for a group of states that would gather both state and local levies from the online merchants. His office concedes that could still mean 27 or more different auditors of a Web-based business—which is better than 9,600 but hardly qualifies as simplicity

HARRY REID READY TO RUSH THROUGH INTERNET SALES TAX; OBAMA ENDORSES | sreaves32

Another unfunded mandate and violation of the Tenth Amendment's states rights clause.
Dems say this levels the paying field between brick and mortar retailers and internet retailers.
Internet sales are one of the last bastions of escaping the insidious reach of taxation....
Oddly enough, the six states with no sales tax are affected buy this stupid bill.
Here is how the law of unintended consequences will tip the balance to the brick and mortar stores....The additional cost of setting up a system to collect sales taxes in 44 states plus the additional cost to collect them will be passed along to the consumer in the form of higher prices. This will tip the scale in favor of the land based stores.
This is also states running to the federal government like children to their parents to tattle on their older sibling. What I mean is the states cannot compel internet sellers to collect taxes for them, are going to the federal govt to demand they do it for them.

 

[OriginalShroom]

What the fuck does this have to do with internet tax?

FFS, this thread reeks of wingnut stupidity.

It has to do with people like Grampa complaining that he is losing business because of the Internet.

That pharmacy lost a lot of my money because I found I could get the same product for half price on-line.

Now that I have explained it to you, don't you feel kind of foolish?

I hate to tell you, but that online Viagra is fake, dude.

Is that the best you have?

I can understand... You made yourself look foolish so all you can do is deflect.

 

[OriginalShroom]

Always ask yourself..

Why would a Politiciain wants to ram a bill through, bypassing committees and normal procedures, when it isn't an emergency?

 

[gallantwarrior]

Always ask yourself..

Why would a Politiciain wants to ram a bill through, bypassing committees and normal procedures, when it isn't an emergency?

Excellent point.

 

[thereisnospoon]

This is what happens when the fascists won't tax the wealthy.

Right...And I have some Oceanside real estate just outside of Scottsdale, AZ for sale...Ya interested?

 

[candycorn]

You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Internet business have an unfair advantage, especially on large purchases. Just ask Guitar Center. Someone buying a $3,000 mixing board that they have already researched and know that they want is faced with a choice of paying an extra $210 to buy it locally (based on a 7% sales tax).

Only those totally skittish about buying online would take that choice. So that ends up costing your community - schools/fire/police/roads, etc. - and only enriches the Jeff Bezos of the world.

Shut up idiot, then cut the sales tax most places charge a shipping fee for internet sales only liberal idiots like you think creating more bureaucracy giving the federal government more power, and taking more money out of poor people’s pockets is a good thing you're a brainless fool

Just because you're an internet business, you do not have a right to a profit.

If they cannot compete on a level playing field, they go out of business.

Welcome to the real world, dumbass.

It's much like the government making Burger King charge sales tax while allowing the McDonalds across the street to sell burgers without charging sales tax.

It should either make both charge taxes or neither one charge taxes.

While I'd like the idea of no tax as a consumer...realistically that isn't possible.

 

[RoadVirus]

Always ask yourself..

Why would a Politiciain wants to ram a bill through, bypassing committees and normal procedures, when it isn't an emergency?

In this case, it is an emergency. Harry has to ram it through before the American people stop focusing on Boston and turn their attention back to their elected representatives and what they are doing.

 

[Crackerjaxon]

Shut up idiot, then cut the sales tax most places charge a shipping fee for internet sales only liberal idiots like you think creating more bureaucracy giving the federal government more power, and taking more money out of poor people’s pockets is a good thing you're a brainless fool

Just because you're an internet business, you do not have a right to a profit.

If they cannot compete on a level playing field, they go out of business.

Welcome to the real world, dumbass.

It's much like the government making Burger King charge sales tax while allowing the McDonalds across the street to sell burgers without charging sales tax.

It should either make both charge taxes or neither one charge taxes.

While I'd like the idea of no tax as a consumer...realistically that isn't possible.

No, it isn't. Internet businesses have only ONE location, not fifty. It's more like making a Burger King in Hawaii pay sales tax to whatever state a tourist burger buyer happens to be from.