Has Obama Made Us Into a Banana Republic?

[Conservative65]

Its a lot less sinister and planned in my opinion.

The side effect of a money/power equals success taught population is that eventually, greed overcomes decency because a "business" is doing it instead of a "person" which allows enough cognitive dissonance to justify these steps toward greed internally.

Define greed. Define decency. Too many define greed as someone not willing to do with what they have to a level someone else thinks then should. I've been called greedy because I oppose being forced to fund social welfare programs, oppose Obamacare, prefer to invest my money the way I see fit rather than be forced to contribute to a social security program, oppose the free tuition for community college plan thrown around by the Democrats, etc. In other words, I've been called greedy and selfish because I don't think one person owes another person a damn thing in life and those calling me that do.

Okay....


greed
ɡrēd/
noun

1. intense and selfish desire for something, especially wealth, power, or food.
   synonyms: avarice, cupidity, acquisitiveness, covetousness, rapacity; More

de·cen·cy
ˈdēsənsē/
noun

1. behavior that conforms to accepted standards of morality or respectability.
   "she had the decency to come and confess"
   synonyms: propriety, decorum, good taste, respectability, dignity, correctness, good form, etiquette; More
   • modesty and propriety.
     "a loose dress, rather too low-cut for decency"
   • the requirements of accepted or respectable behavior.
     plural noun: decencies
     "an appeal to common decencies"

Your problem is you consider intense and selfish as someone wanting to keep more of what THEY'VE earned while believing it's OK for someone that didn't earn something to get a portion of what someone else earned. You can't determine intense for anyone but yourself. You can't do that for me.

Interested how those of you who say you don't want someone else's morals pushed on you regularly push your morals on others. If you think it's moral and respectable for someone to force you to give to another person, so be it. It's not your place to determine that for me.

I simply enjoy living in a civilized society.

'65 wants the guy who picks up his garbage to work for 50 bucks a week.

Just whatever the one doing the paying thinks those skills are worth. Seems you think that person should make $1000/week for doing a job a monkey could be trained to do.

 

[Conservative65]

Define greed. Define decency. Too many define greed as someone not willing to do with what they have to a level someone else thinks then should. I've been called greedy because I oppose being forced to fund social welfare programs, oppose Obamacare, prefer to invest my money the way I see fit rather than be forced to contribute to a social security program, oppose the free tuition for community college plan thrown around by the Democrats, etc. In other words, I've been called greedy and selfish because I don't think one person owes another person a damn thing in life and those calling me that do.

Okay....


greed
ɡrēd/
noun

1. intense and selfish desire for something, especially wealth, power, or food.
   synonyms: avarice, cupidity, acquisitiveness, covetousness, rapacity; More

de·cen·cy
ˈdēsənsē/
noun

1. behavior that conforms to accepted standards of morality or respectability.
   "she had the decency to come and confess"
   synonyms: propriety, decorum, good taste, respectability, dignity, correctness, good form, etiquette; More
   • modesty and propriety.
     "a loose dress, rather too low-cut for decency"
   • the requirements of accepted or respectable behavior.
     plural noun: decencies
     "an appeal to common decencies"

Your problem is you consider intense and selfish as someone wanting to keep more of what THEY'VE earned while believing it's OK for someone that didn't earn something to get a portion of what someone else earned. You can't determine intense for anyone but yourself. You can't do that for me.

Interested how those of you who say you don't want someone else's morals pushed on you regularly push your morals on others. If you think it's moral and respectable for someone to force you to give to another person, so be it. It's not your place to determine that for me.

I simply enjoy living in a civilized society.

'65 wants the guy who picks up his garbage to work for 50 bucks a week.

So you're saying that conservative65 likes to cut his nose to spite his face.

So, you're saying that's the type of work I do?

 

[Conservative65]

Define greed. Define decency. Too many define greed as someone not willing to do with what they have to a level someone else thinks then should. I've been called greedy because I oppose being forced to fund social welfare programs, oppose Obamacare, prefer to invest my money the way I see fit rather than be forced to contribute to a social security program, oppose the free tuition for community college plan thrown around by the Democrats, etc. In other words, I've been called greedy and selfish because I don't think one person owes another person a damn thing in life and those calling me that do.

Okay....


greed
ɡrēd/
noun

1. intense and selfish desire for something, especially wealth, power, or food.
   synonyms: avarice, cupidity, acquisitiveness, covetousness, rapacity; More

de·cen·cy
ˈdēsənsē/
noun

1. behavior that conforms to accepted standards of morality or respectability.
   "she had the decency to come and confess"
   synonyms: propriety, decorum, good taste, respectability, dignity, correctness, good form, etiquette; More
   • modesty and propriety.
     "a loose dress, rather too low-cut for decency"
   • the requirements of accepted or respectable behavior.
     plural noun: decencies
     "an appeal to common decencies"

Your problem is you consider intense and selfish as someone wanting to keep more of what THEY'VE earned while believing it's OK for someone that didn't earn something to get a portion of what someone else earned. You can't determine intense for anyone but yourself. You can't do that for me.

Interested how those of you who say you don't want someone else's morals pushed on you regularly push your morals on others. If you think it's moral and respectable for someone to force you to give to another person, so be it. It's not your place to determine that for me.

I simply enjoy living in a civilized society.

You enjoy thinking it's your place to determine things for other people. You enjoy seeing those of us who have earned what we have be forced to give it to those who haven't earned it because you think we owe them something. If living in a civilized society means contributing, I'll be waiting for you to change your outlook that those who don't contribute yet benefit join the society and do their part. I don't owe anyone a damn thing. If you want to say I'm selfish because I want to keep what I'VE earned, fine. Not a problem. At least the one who earned it has it not some leech that didn't and had to have someone that contributes to society do it for his sorry ass.

I'd like to know why I'm paying more % in taxes than Mitt Romney.

You're not.

 

[bripat9643]

A banana republic does not preclude consideration of workers. It has nothing to do with that as we have just established on the last page. The government looks out for the needs of the company over the people - you seem to think that healthcare is at odds with those needs - it is not.

Such impositions can actually help major companies by ensuring that the cost of entering the marketplace is to high and competition is stopped.

Note that Obama did not set up a system of healthcare for workers at all as a matter of fact. instead, he FORCED all people in this nation to buy a healthcare product from a company. Hmmm... would that be looking out for the people's needs or for the needs of healthcare companies that need customers?

Show me a historical example of a SINGLE Banana Republic that looked out for workers

Venezuela, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico. Virtually all of them claim they are looking out for the workers.

They were banana republics at one time.......not today

Corruption and worker abuse moved them towards socialism

They are still banana republics, and they're getting worse under socialist government.

There is no government more corrupt than a socialist government.

So name the least corrupt governments in the world.

Hong Kong and Singapore.

 

[Conservative65]

Its a lot less sinister and planned in my opinion.

The side effect of a money/power equals success taught population is that eventually, greed overcomes decency because a "business" is doing it instead of a "person" which allows enough cognitive dissonance to justify these steps toward greed internally.

Define greed. Define decency. Too many define greed as someone not willing to do with what they have to a level someone else thinks then should. I've been called greedy because I oppose being forced to fund social welfare programs, oppose Obamacare, prefer to invest my money the way I see fit rather than be forced to contribute to a social security program, oppose the free tuition for community college plan thrown around by the Democrats, etc. In other words, I've been called greedy and selfish because I don't think one person owes another person a damn thing in life and those calling me that do.

Okay....


greed
ɡrēd/
noun

1. intense and selfish desire for something, especially wealth, power, or food.
   synonyms: avarice, cupidity, acquisitiveness, covetousness, rapacity; More

de·cen·cy
ˈdēsənsē/
noun

1. behavior that conforms to accepted standards of morality or respectability.
   "she had the decency to come and confess"
   synonyms: propriety, decorum, good taste, respectability, dignity, correctness, good form, etiquette; More
   • modesty and propriety.
     "a loose dress, rather too low-cut for decency"
   • the requirements of accepted or respectable behavior.
     plural noun: decencies
     "an appeal to common decencies"

Your problem is you consider intense and selfish as someone wanting to keep more of what THEY'VE earned while believing it's OK for someone that didn't earn something to get a portion of what someone else earned. You can't determine intense for anyone but yourself. You can't do that for me.

Interested how those of you who say you don't want someone else's morals pushed on you regularly push your morals on others. If you think it's moral and respectable for someone to force you to give to another person, so be it. It's not your place to determine that for me.

I simply enjoy living in a civilized society.

'65 wants the guy who picks up his garbage to work for 50 bucks a week.

I want the guy that picks up garbage doing a job that a monkey could be trained to do to stop thinking his skills are worth more than they are. The trash collectors where I live damaged my trash can to the point that the grabber on the back of the truck will no longer pick up the can. For two weeks, I put it out and they didn't get the trash. I received a letter from the public works department head saying my trash wouldn't be collected until I purchased another trash can that wasn't damaged to the point that the grabber on the truck could pick it up. Funny how I get to pay because someone uneducated, unskilled moron damaged my trash can.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Define greed. Define decency. Too many define greed as someone not willing to do with what they have to a level someone else thinks then should. I've been called greedy because I oppose being forced to fund social welfare programs, oppose Obamacare, prefer to invest my money the way I see fit rather than be forced to contribute to a social security program, oppose the free tuition for community college plan thrown around by the Democrats, etc. In other words, I've been called greedy and selfish because I don't think one person owes another person a damn thing in life and those calling me that do.

Okay....


greed
ɡrēd/
noun

1. intense and selfish desire for something, especially wealth, power, or food.
   synonyms: avarice, cupidity, acquisitiveness, covetousness, rapacity; More

de·cen·cy
ˈdēsənsē/
noun

1. behavior that conforms to accepted standards of morality or respectability.
   "she had the decency to come and confess"
   synonyms: propriety, decorum, good taste, respectability, dignity, correctness, good form, etiquette; More
   • modesty and propriety.
     "a loose dress, rather too low-cut for decency"
   • the requirements of accepted or respectable behavior.
     plural noun: decencies
     "an appeal to common decencies"

Your problem is you consider intense and selfish as someone wanting to keep more of what THEY'VE earned while believing it's OK for someone that didn't earn something to get a portion of what someone else earned. You can't determine intense for anyone but yourself. You can't do that for me.

Interested how those of you who say you don't want someone else's morals pushed on you regularly push your morals on others. If you think it's moral and respectable for someone to force you to give to another person, so be it. It's not your place to determine that for me.

I simply enjoy living in a civilized society.

'65 wants the guy who picks up his garbage to work for 50 bucks a week.

I want the guy that picks up garbage doing a job that a monkey could be trained to do to stop thinking his skills are worth more than they are.

That's because you're a cretin. You don't belong in America, and America is never going to become the sort of place that you belong in.

 

[Carla_Danger]

Okay....


greed
ɡrēd/
noun

1. intense and selfish desire for something, especially wealth, power, or food.
   synonyms: avarice, cupidity, acquisitiveness, covetousness, rapacity; More

de·cen·cy
ˈdēsənsē/
noun

1. behavior that conforms to accepted standards of morality or respectability.
   "she had the decency to come and confess"
   synonyms: propriety, decorum, good taste, respectability, dignity, correctness, good form, etiquette; More
   • modesty and propriety.
     "a loose dress, rather too low-cut for decency"
   • the requirements of accepted or respectable behavior.
     plural noun: decencies
     "an appeal to common decencies"

Your problem is you consider intense and selfish as someone wanting to keep more of what THEY'VE earned while believing it's OK for someone that didn't earn something to get a portion of what someone else earned. You can't determine intense for anyone but yourself. You can't do that for me.

Interested how those of you who say you don't want someone else's morals pushed on you regularly push your morals on others. If you think it's moral and respectable for someone to force you to give to another person, so be it. It's not your place to determine that for me.

I simply enjoy living in a civilized society.

'65 wants the guy who picks up his garbage to work for 50 bucks a week.

So you're saying that conservative65 likes to cut his nose to spite his face.

So, you're saying that's the type of work I do?

I'm saying that you don't seem very skilled or educated, yourself.

 

[Carla_Danger]

Okay....


greed
ɡrēd/
noun

1. intense and selfish desire for something, especially wealth, power, or food.
   synonyms: avarice, cupidity, acquisitiveness, covetousness, rapacity; More

de·cen·cy
ˈdēsənsē/
noun

1. behavior that conforms to accepted standards of morality or respectability.
   "she had the decency to come and confess"
   synonyms: propriety, decorum, good taste, respectability, dignity, correctness, good form, etiquette; More
   • modesty and propriety.
     "a loose dress, rather too low-cut for decency"
   • the requirements of accepted or respectable behavior.
     plural noun: decencies
     "an appeal to common decencies"

Your problem is you consider intense and selfish as someone wanting to keep more of what THEY'VE earned while believing it's OK for someone that didn't earn something to get a portion of what someone else earned. You can't determine intense for anyone but yourself. You can't do that for me.

Interested how those of you who say you don't want someone else's morals pushed on you regularly push your morals on others. If you think it's moral and respectable for someone to force you to give to another person, so be it. It's not your place to determine that for me.

I simply enjoy living in a civilized society.

You enjoy thinking it's your place to determine things for other people. You enjoy seeing those of us who have earned what we have be forced to give it to those who haven't earned it because you think we owe them something. If living in a civilized society means contributing, I'll be waiting for you to change your outlook that those who don't contribute yet benefit join the society and do their part. I don't owe anyone a damn thing. If you want to say I'm selfish because I want to keep what I'VE earned, fine. Not a problem. At least the one who earned it has it not some leech that didn't and had to have someone that contributes to society do it for his sorry ass.

I'd like to know why I'm paying more % in taxes than Mitt Romney.

You're not.

Actually, I am.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Define greed. Define decency. Too many define greed as someone not willing to do with what they have to a level someone else thinks then should. I've been called greedy because I oppose being forced to fund social welfare programs, oppose Obamacare, prefer to invest my money the way I see fit rather than be forced to contribute to a social security program, oppose the free tuition for community college plan thrown around by the Democrats, etc. In other words, I've been called greedy and selfish because I don't think one person owes another person a damn thing in life and those calling me that do.

Okay....


greed
ɡrēd/
noun

1. intense and selfish desire for something, especially wealth, power, or food.
   synonyms: avarice, cupidity, acquisitiveness, covetousness, rapacity; More

de·cen·cy
ˈdēsənsē/
noun

1. behavior that conforms to accepted standards of morality or respectability.
   "she had the decency to come and confess"
   synonyms: propriety, decorum, good taste, respectability, dignity, correctness, good form, etiquette; More
   • modesty and propriety.
     "a loose dress, rather too low-cut for decency"
   • the requirements of accepted or respectable behavior.
     plural noun: decencies
     "an appeal to common decencies"

Your problem is you consider intense and selfish as someone wanting to keep more of what THEY'VE earned while believing it's OK for someone that didn't earn something to get a portion of what someone else earned. You can't determine intense for anyone but yourself. You can't do that for me.

Interested how those of you who say you don't want someone else's morals pushed on you regularly push your morals on others. If you think it's moral and respectable for someone to force you to give to another person, so be it. It's not your place to determine that for me.

I simply enjoy living in a civilized society.

'65 wants the guy who picks up his garbage to work for 50 bucks a week.

I want the guy that picks up garbage doing a job that a monkey could be trained to do to stop thinking his skills are worth more than they are.

See if you can find someone to paint your house for a buck an hour. Or mow your lawn.

Or better yet, check with your trash collector and see if they'll pick up your garbage every week for 50 cents a month.

 

[Conservative65]

Your problem is you consider intense and selfish as someone wanting to keep more of what THEY'VE earned while believing it's OK for someone that didn't earn something to get a portion of what someone else earned. You can't determine intense for anyone but yourself. You can't do that for me.

Interested how those of you who say you don't want someone else's morals pushed on you regularly push your morals on others. If you think it's moral and respectable for someone to force you to give to another person, so be it. It's not your place to determine that for me.

I simply enjoy living in a civilized society.

'65 wants the guy who picks up his garbage to work for 50 bucks a week.

So you're saying that conservative65 likes to cut his nose to spite his face.

So, you're saying that's the type of work I do?

I'm saying that you don't seem very skilled or educated, yourself.

I guess the three college degrees I EARNED, two of which are advanced, and that I am the #2 person in the chain of command where I work means nothing.

I'm saying your believing that only makes someone like yourself feel better because you're projecting about yourself.

 

[Conservative65]

Your problem is you consider intense and selfish as someone wanting to keep more of what THEY'VE earned while believing it's OK for someone that didn't earn something to get a portion of what someone else earned. You can't determine intense for anyone but yourself. You can't do that for me.

Interested how those of you who say you don't want someone else's morals pushed on you regularly push your morals on others. If you think it's moral and respectable for someone to force you to give to another person, so be it. It's not your place to determine that for me.

I simply enjoy living in a civilized society.

You enjoy thinking it's your place to determine things for other people. You enjoy seeing those of us who have earned what we have be forced to give it to those who haven't earned it because you think we owe them something. If living in a civilized society means contributing, I'll be waiting for you to change your outlook that those who don't contribute yet benefit join the society and do their part. I don't owe anyone a damn thing. If you want to say I'm selfish because I want to keep what I'VE earned, fine. Not a problem. At least the one who earned it has it not some leech that didn't and had to have someone that contributes to society do it for his sorry ass.

I'd like to know why I'm paying more % in taxes than Mitt Romney.

You're not.

Actually, I am.

Prove it.

 

[Carla_Danger]

I simply enjoy living in a civilized society.

'65 wants the guy who picks up his garbage to work for 50 bucks a week.

So you're saying that conservative65 likes to cut his nose to spite his face.

So, you're saying that's the type of work I do?

I'm saying that you don't seem very skilled or educated, yourself.

I guess the three college degrees I EARNED, two of which are advanced, and that I am the #2 person in the chain of command where I work means nothing.

I'm saying your believing that only makes someone like yourself feel better because you're projecting about yourself.

Judging by your postings, I find that hard to believe.

 

[Conservative65]

Okay....


greed
ɡrēd/
noun

1. intense and selfish desire for something, especially wealth, power, or food.
   synonyms: avarice, cupidity, acquisitiveness, covetousness, rapacity; More

de·cen·cy
ˈdēsənsē/
noun

1. behavior that conforms to accepted standards of morality or respectability.
   "she had the decency to come and confess"
   synonyms: propriety, decorum, good taste, respectability, dignity, correctness, good form, etiquette; More
   • modesty and propriety.
     "a loose dress, rather too low-cut for decency"
   • the requirements of accepted or respectable behavior.
     plural noun: decencies
     "an appeal to common decencies"

Your problem is you consider intense and selfish as someone wanting to keep more of what THEY'VE earned while believing it's OK for someone that didn't earn something to get a portion of what someone else earned. You can't determine intense for anyone but yourself. You can't do that for me.

Interested how those of you who say you don't want someone else's morals pushed on you regularly push your morals on others. If you think it's moral and respectable for someone to force you to give to another person, so be it. It's not your place to determine that for me.

I simply enjoy living in a civilized society.

'65 wants the guy who picks up his garbage to work for 50 bucks a week.

I want the guy that picks up garbage doing a job that a monkey could be trained to do to stop thinking his skills are worth more than they are.

See if you can find someone to paint your house for a buck an hour. Or mow your lawn.

Or better yet, check with your trash collector and see if they'll pick up your garbage every week for 50 cents a month.

I think they are worth more than 50 buck/week. You seem to think they're worth $1000/week.

By the way, last time my house was painted, at least the portion that isn't brick or stone, I did it. Also, I cut my own grass.

 

[Conservative65]

'65 wants the guy who picks up his garbage to work for 50 bucks a week.

So you're saying that conservative65 likes to cut his nose to spite his face.

So, you're saying that's the type of work I do?

I'm saying that you don't seem very skilled or educated, yourself.

I guess the three college degrees I EARNED, two of which are advanced, and that I am the #2 person in the chain of command where I work means nothing.

I'm saying your believing that only makes someone like yourself feel better because you're projecting about yourself.

Judging by your postings, I find that hard to believe.

Problem is your judgment is based on my disagreement with you not what is posted. That's a sign of a retard.

 

[kaz]

The corporations keep him in power and provides him wealth

In return, he uses an oppressive military to oppress workers and provide a low cost labor force

You're getting closer, but it's not a trade, the government is in control.

Also, it has nothing to do with "capitalism."

Also, you do love the Marxist verbiage. The term "corporation" is actually pretty irrelevant to this scenario. A corporation is a legal structure set up through the State to recognize a business. Since the businesses are State controlled, to call them "corporations" doesn't really make sense

 

[Conservative65]

'65 wants the guy who picks up his garbage to work for 50 bucks a week.

So you're saying that conservative65 likes to cut his nose to spite his face.

So, you're saying that's the type of work I do?

I'm saying that you don't seem very skilled or educated, yourself.

I guess the three college degrees I EARNED, two of which are advanced, and that I am the #2 person in the chain of command where I work means nothing.

I'm saying your believing that only makes someone like yourself feel better because you're projecting about yourself.

Judging by your postings, I find that hard to believe.

Your level of belief is unimportant much like your existence. What matters is those who pay me more than you could earn working two full time jobs believe it.

 

[Carla_Danger]

So you're saying that conservative65 likes to cut his nose to spite his face.

So, you're saying that's the type of work I do?

I'm saying that you don't seem very skilled or educated, yourself.

I guess the three college degrees I EARNED, two of which are advanced, and that I am the #2 person in the chain of command where I work means nothing.

I'm saying your believing that only makes someone like yourself feel better because you're projecting about yourself.

Judging by your postings, I find that hard to believe.

Problem is your judgment is based on my disagreement with you not what is posted. That's a sign of a retard.

Well, no, it has more to do with your lack of common sense, and your grammatical errors.

 

[kaz]

I guess the three college degrees I EARNED, two of which are advanced, and that I am the #2 person in the chain of command where I work means nothing

Judging by your postings, I find that hard to believe.

LOL, someone who's username says you love sexting is calling anyone uneducated, that's classic

 

[Conservative65]

So, you're saying that's the type of work I do?

I'm saying that you don't seem very skilled or educated, yourself.

I guess the three college degrees I EARNED, two of which are advanced, and that I am the #2 person in the chain of command where I work means nothing.

I'm saying your believing that only makes someone like yourself feel better because you're projecting about yourself.

Judging by your postings, I find that hard to believe.

Problem is your judgment is based on my disagreement with you not what is posted. That's a sign of a retard.

Well, no, it has more to do with your lack of common sense, and your grammatical errors.

Again, you determine whether or not something is based on common sense by whether or not it agrees with you.

As for grammatical errors, please point out all those you say I made.

 

[rightwinger]

Obama proposes projections for workers like mandatory healthcare, wage increases, equal pay.......and you claim banana republic where there is no consideration of the worker?

Who is the moron other than you and Stephanie?

A banana republic does not preclude consideration of workers. It has nothing to do with that as we have just established on the last page. The government looks out for the needs of the company over the people - you seem to think that healthcare is at odds with those needs - it is not.

Such impositions can actually help major companies by ensuring that the cost of entering the marketplace is to high and competition is stopped.

Note that Obama did not set up a system of healthcare for workers at all as a matter of fact. instead, he FORCED all people in this nation to buy a healthcare product from a company. Hmmm... would that be looking out for the people's needs or for the needs of healthcare companies that need customers?

Show me a historical example of a SINGLE Banana Republic that looked out for workers

Venezuela, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico. Virtually all of them claim they are looking out for the workers.

They were banana republics at one time.......not today

Corruption and worker abuse moved them towards socialism

They are still banana republics, and they're getting worse under socialist government.

There is no government more corrupt than a socialist government.

What is with the right and throwing out terms like socialist, commie, fascist or banana republic?

You have no concept of where they apply