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- #321
You don't "know" anything to be a fact. You are assuming.
Here is an actual "fact" for you to contemplate. Dean is not the first, but one of many to refer to #45 as a racist.
And, he(#45) has made some very ignorant statements that could be interpreted as racist, depending on the audience.
Quite a few of you extreme right wingers referred to Obama as a racist as well, without much to substantiate that claim.
Using yout logic, that makes them race baiting assholes as well.
1. I am impressed that you are self aware enough to use qualifiers such as "could be interpreted" and "depending". ON some level, you know it is all fucking bullshit. Good for you. The next step is to admit to yourself that it is wrong to spew shit our of your face hole.
2. Obama supported many racist polices and made many racist statements, to support an accusation of racism.
3. An accusation of racism, that you can support, is not being a race baiting asshole.
As opposed to "YOU" spewing such nonsense. Name ONE so called "racist policy" or "racist statement" that Obama made/supported.
And not YOUR version of it. Post what he ACTUALLY stated/supported from a credible news or fact checked source.
If you are even capable of doing so.
As opposed to posting completely biased, one sided personal opinions.
1. Policy example: His support of Affirmative Action which leads to pro-black and anti-white discrimination, such as has been well documented in Ivy League admissions.
How Diversity Punishes Asians and Poor Whites
" an “other things equal basis,” where adjustments are made for a variety of background factors, being Hispanic conferred an admissions boost over being white equivalent to 130 SAT points (out of 1600), while being black rather than white conferred a 310 SAT point advantage. Asians, however, suffered an admissions penalty compared to whites equivalent to 140 SAT points. The box students checked off on the racial question on their application was thus shown to have an extraordinary effect on a student’s chances of gaining admission to the highly competitive private schools in the NSCE database. To have the same chances of gaining admission as a black student with an SAT score of 1100, an Hispanic student otherwise equally matched in background characteristics would have to have a 1230, a white student a 1410, and an Asian student a 1550."
(there is more about how POOR whites are especially screwed, but off topic re Obama's racism)
2. Statement example: Obama falsely accusing McCain of using his race to scare white voters. That's is racism.
Aide 'Dollar Bill' Remark Referred to His Race
"Playing the Race Card
Obama's camp initially denied the remark was a reference to Obama's race.
Obama is poised to become the first black man to be the presidential nominee of a major political party when he claims the Democratic nomination on Aug. 28 -- the 45th anniversary of Martin Luther King, Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech.
"He was referring to the fact that he didn't come into the race with the history of others," Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs said Thursday. "It is not about race."
But Obama's chief strategist, David Axelrod, acknowledged on "Good Morning America" Friday that the candidate was referring, at least in part, to his ethnic background.
When pressed to explain the comment, Axelrod told "GMA" it meant, "He's not from central casting when it comes to candidates for president of the United States. He's new to Washington. Yes, he's African-American." "
Acknowleding that the "first" black candidate in history would possibly encounter a challenge based on the racial history of America is not racism.
Stating that the McCain campaign would use race to frighten voters, was inflaming racial tension for personal gain.
Secondly, college admissions of white students compared to black students do not show a substanstial displacement of white students in overall admissions.
Yes, they do.
But of course, your belief is likely that even ONE black student admission is likely at the expense of some potential white student.
No, I don't. I'v known plenty of highly intelligent black people that could compete on their own without discrimination in their favor.
"Legacy admissions" benefit white applicants far more than non white applicants.
I would be all for a completely equalized playing field, by eliminating legacy admissions as well, if AA was abolished.
I've seen that assumption made. I've not seen a breakdown on who benefits from legacy points.
Regardless, I'm not sure that legacy admissions should be lumped in, into this calculation. Poor whites get fucked enough as it is, without making it worse.
As far as Obama, being "racist" for his "strategist" acknowledging the fact that there were certainly some out there who would not vote for him because " he looked different" is not "racism". It is a fact.
He stated that McCains campaign would fear monger based on race. McCain did not do that. It was wrong of Obama to say that they did, or would.
Here are some examples of what could be construed as racism.
Suppose that when Obama ran for office, that he had pointed to a white person at one of HIS rallies and stated "Look at MY white person"? Racist?
Weird but not racist.
Suppose that AFTER he was elected, that he had declared a judge of a different race than himself to be unqualified to preside over a court case involving him? Racist?
"Unqualified"? Depends on if the judge was unqualified and if the reason Obama said that was the judge being white or asian.
Suppose that when he was in office that he had declared immigrants from a predominately white country to be "criminals or rapists"? Racist?
I doubt Obama would say that. Sounds like someone might be lying about what he said.
You said that Obama made "MANY racist statements and supported MANY racist policies"
What else besides these?
1. Statement:
Obama: 'If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon'
Identify with a criminal based on race, instead of the would be victim of a crime, who was initially reported as "White", that was almost certainly and mostly racism.
2. Policy. Appointing a moron to the Supreme Court based on race.
Trump said at one of his rallies..."Look at MY African American"
Trump: ‘Look at My African-American Over Here’
What so called "moron" are you referring to that Obama appointed? And what makes them a "moron"? Your opinion
As far as the Trayvon Martin case, there is sharp division on thd outcome of it. As a matter of record, Zimmerman, with all of his encounters with the law, was more of a "criminal/thug" than Martin was.
Furthermore, the situation could have been avoided if he had not been folliwing him. Especially. After he was told "we do not need for you to do that".
Obama stating that if he had a son, he could look like Martin, was not the most intelligent statement to make. But was certainly not racist. He did not demonize Zimmerman, he expressed concern for who was killed.