Have you been recruited?

[Sun Devil 92]

Now the same posters are defending Putin, attacking Mueller and in denial that Trump benefited, if not colluded, with Putin's agenda to attack HRC to Trump' benefit.

So, let's see....here we have an assertion. I call it that and I also call it bullshit.

Nobody is defending Putin. Saying we trust him over the FBI isn't a complement...it's a scathing commentary on our so-called "intelligence" services (that are now getting heavily staffed in HR).

Mueller is being scrutinized and with good reason. If that is an attack so be it. You imply that it is bad.....you defend that.

I know Trump benefited...and i could care less.

Hillary got 10 million from Soros...so what .....that's the way it works.

So your assertions are nothing burgers and your following statement is therefore...just as much bullshit.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

For years many of those opposing RussiaGate were posting the left was pursuing a socialist / marxist agenda and calling out liberals, progressives and the Democratic Party as fellow travelers of Communism.

Now the same posters are defending Putin, attacking Mueller and in denial that Trump benefited, if not colluded, with Putin's agenda to attack HRC to Trump' benefit.

This is perplexing. Why is this switch in play by so many of you? Have you considered you have been recruited, and are now a recruiter?

One more thing, the Deep State Meme has never been defined. It is a conspiracy theory, but lacks the substance to even be called a theory.

It’s really not perplexing – the blind partisan right will do anything to defend a Republican president, no matter how reprehensible, wrong, and unfit that Republican president might be, even if it means siding with a Russian dictator; we saw this with Nixon, Reagan, and Bush.

And it’s true that there is no such thing as a ‘deep state,’ it’s a ridiculous lie and red herring fallacy contrived by the right in a failed attempt to defend Trump.

 

[Meathead]

For years many of those opposing RussiaGate were posting the left was pursuing a socialist / marxist agenda and calling out liberals, progressives and the Democratic Party as fellow travelers of Communism.

Now the same posters are defending Putin, attacking Mueller and in denial that Trump benefited, if not colluded, with Putin's agenda to attack HRC to Trump' benefit.

This is perplexing. Why is this switch in play by so many of you? Have you considered you have been recruited, and are now a recruiter?

One more thing, the Deep State Meme has never been defined. It is a conspiracy theory, but lacks the substance to even be called a theory.

Your grammar is terrible.

 

[WillowTree]

For years many of those opposing RussiaGate were posting the left was pursuing a socialist / marxist agenda and calling out liberals, progressives and the Democratic Party as fellow travelers of Communism.

Now the same posters are defending Putin, attacking Mueller and in denial that Trump benefited, if not colluded, with Putin's agenda to attack HRC to Trump' benefit.

This is perplexing. Why is this switch in play by so many of you? Have you considered you have been recruited, and are now a recruiter?

One more thing, the Deep State Meme has never been defined. It is a conspiracy theory, but lacks the substance to even be called a theory.

1. For one limited example, the defense of Antifa by so many of the more "mainstream" democrats, show that we were right all along.

2. We don't believe that Trump colluded with Putin. So we deny it. Indeed, it is not clear that Trump benefited from Putin's alleged meddling.

3. The Deep State:

Deep state in the United States - Wikipedia

" United States the term "deep state" is used within political science to describe influential decision-making bodies believed to be within government who are relatively permanent and whose policies and long-term plans are unaffected by changing administrations. The term is often used in a critical sense, vis-à-vis, the general electorate to refer to the lack of influence popular democracy has on these institutions and the decisions they make as a shadow government...."


"While definitions vary, the term gained popularity among various groups, primarily supporters of Donald Trump, Bernie Sanders, and conspiracy theorists, during the 2016 U.S. presidential election, in opposition to establishment Republican and Democratic candidates. Since Trump's inauguration, the term has been used by some commentators, who argue that a "deep state" is aiming to delegitimize the Trump presidency and thwart its policy goals"


"President Donald Trump supporters use the term to refer to allegations that intelligence officers and executive branch officials guide policy through leaking or other internal means.[21][11] According to a July 2017 report by the United States Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, "the Trump administration was being hit by national security leaks 'on a nearly daily basis' and at a far higher rate than its predecessors encountered".


"According to a poll of Americans in April 2017, about half (48%) thought there was a "deep state", "meaning military, intelligence and government officials who try to secretly manipulate government." Of those who thought that, more than half (58%) said it was a major problem (net of 28% surveyed).[31][32]

A March 2018 poll found most respondents (63%) were unfamiliar with the term "deep state", but a majority believe that a deep state likely exists in the United States when described as "a group of unelected government and military officials who secretly manipulate or direct national policy". Three-fourths (74%) of the respondents say that they believe this type of group definitely (27%) or probably (47%) exists in the federal government."

The information in the link suggests the Deep State is an amorphous body. It seems such an organization would have an agenda too difficult to keep hidden, and one which could not remain secret if more than a few were members.

The closet example which comes to mind is the K st. group organized by Grover Norquist:

Grover Norquist - GU Politics

Only there is nothing deep about that....it was totally transparent.

Did Strozk announce his texts to his lover or were they uncovered ?

Strozk did the same thing millions of us have done. And he and none of us have engaged in a conspiracy to drive Trump away. You're sure gullible, and easily led.

Then why did Stroz say he had a plan? Why did he make sure he was on both investigations?

 

[Crepitus]

Denies defending Putin, does it in the next sentence.

Please quote the EXACT WORDS where I defended Putin and the post number I did it in, rather than just SAY I did.

Right here kid:

"I haven't seen one person here DEFEND Putin. But I have seen people point out that they have not seen any CONCLUSIVE PROOF that Russia tampered with the election. Even Julian Assange said a couple years ago that his source was NOT Russia. Oddly, the ONE PERSON we KNOW FOR A FACT colluded with Russia was Hillary! And no one is looking at that!"

That post is pretty solidly pro-russian, pro-putin.

 

[koshergrl]

Denies defending Putin, does it in the next sentence.

Please quote the EXACT WORDS where I defended Putin and the post number I did it in, rather than just SAY I did.

Right here kid:

"I haven't seen one person here DEFEND Putin. But I have seen people point out that they have not seen any CONCLUSIVE PROOF that Russia tampered with the election. Even Julian Assange said a couple years ago that his source was NOT Russia. Oddly, the ONE PERSON we KNOW FOR A FACT colluded with Russia was Hillary! And no one is looking at that!"

That post is pretty solidly pro-russian, pro-putin.

Er..no, it's not.

And that makes you a fucking retard.

 

[Crepitus]

Denies defending Putin, does it in the next sentence.

Please quote the EXACT WORDS where I defended Putin and the post number I did it in, rather than just SAY I did.

This is just more of the left's nazi anti-free speech campaign.
Have you noticed? They have criminalized the act of speaking. Trump is a traitor because he spoke to Putin and they don't want him to speak to Putin without the filter of the press. That should tell everybody everything they need to know right there.

But it's just another instance of their ongoing war against free speech. The nazis maintain they get to club people and steal from people and prevent people they don't agree with from sharing their views. The whole "Trump is a traitor for speaking to Putin" deal is just that projected onto the prez.

tRump is not a traitor for speaking to Putin.

tRump is a traitor for being an obsequious little toad for Putin.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Denies defending Putin, does it in the next sentence.

Please quote the EXACT WORDS where I defended Putin and the post number I did it in, rather than just SAY I did.

Right here kid:

"I haven't seen one person here DEFEND Putin. But I have seen people point out that they have not seen any CONCLUSIVE PROOF that Russia tampered with the election. Even Julian Assange said a couple years ago that his source was NOT Russia. Oddly, the ONE PERSON we KNOW FOR A FACT colluded with Russia was Hillary! And no one is looking at that!"

That post is pretty solidly pro-russian, pro-putin.

Only in your sad little half-baked brain.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

For years many of those opposing RussiaGate were posting the left was pursuing a socialist / marxist agenda and calling out liberals, progressives and the Democratic Party as fellow travelers of Communism.

Now the same posters are defending Putin, attacking Mueller and in denial that Trump benefited, if not colluded, with Putin's agenda to attack HRC to Trump' benefit.

This is perplexing. Why is this switch in play by so many of you? Have you considered you have been recruited, and are now a recruiter?

One more thing, the Deep State Meme has never been defined. It is a conspiracy theory, but lacks the substance to even be called a theory.

It’s really not perplexing – the blind partisan right will do anything to defend a Republican president, no matter how reprehensible, wrong, and unfit that Republican president might be, even if it means siding with a Russian dictator; we saw this with Nixon, Reagan, and Bush.

And it’s true that there is no such thing as a ‘deep state,’ it’s a ridiculous lie and red herring fallacy contrived by the right in a failed attempt to defend Trump.

You have over 46,000 posts and not one of them is worth the shit that makes up your brain.

 

[koshergrl]

Denies defending Putin, does it in the next sentence.

Please quote the EXACT WORDS where I defended Putin and the post number I did it in, rather than just SAY I did.

This is just more of the left's nazi anti-free speech campaign.
Have you noticed? They have criminalized the act of speaking. Trump is a traitor because he spoke to Putin and they don't want him to speak to Putin without the filter of the press. That should tell everybody everything they need to know right there.

But it's just another instance of their ongoing war against free speech. The nazis maintain they get to club people and steal from people and prevent people they don't agree with from sharing their views. The whole "Trump is a traitor for speaking to Putin" deal is just that projected onto the prez.

tRump is not a traitor for speaking to Putin.

tRump is a traitor for being an obsequious little toad for Putin.

Again. Trump isn't a traitor at all. The obseuious little toads for obama and clinton..who have been kowtowing with all our enemies including the Russian ones for decades..are the traitors.

And they are going down. Yay us.

BTW among the groups going down..all the agencies, the schools, corrupt and criminal media, and all the federally funded *management* and *environmental* agencies.

They're going down in a variety of ways. Frontal assault..but also by means of funding and on other fronts as well. For example... Trump is removing the regulations that exist just to give fed offal something to do and thus justify their federal dependency. He does that while he engages with them over immigration and the fbi's lies and crimnality. He's appointing directors and judges who are not friendly to the idea of giant, expensive federal involvement engaged in every aspect of our lives. We have bills in Congress that make it easier to FIRE feds...so when the little scumbucket brownshirts in Bunkerville get busted lying to the courts about the fact that yeah, they did have snipers camped around the homes of ranchers who had never offered any violence at any time to anybody...they can be fired. Not just retired, or moved to Harney County, Oregon where they rent a house from the sheriff and date the daughter of the editor.

Firing a Bad Federal Employee May Get a Little Easier

 

[whitehall]

Hillary's husband was "recruited" by the KGB when he was a student in England and protesting against his own Country. The Arkansas hick got himself an all expense paid tour of mother Russia (and probably a couple of classes in espionage). Lefties used to parade with Russian flags just to annoy WW2 Vets who shed blood for their Country and lefties just swooned over good old Gorbey and set him up with an office in the U.S. For some reason the CIA welcomed traitor Lee Oswald back to the U.S. with his KGB bride after he defected to Russia during the coldest part of the Cold War and nobody ever asked them what the hell they were doing. Russia is the 2nd most prolific nuclear power (maybe the first after Hillary paved the way for them to purchase crucial uranium sites) and we are finally getting around to a moderately stable relationship but somehow hypocrite lefties seem to be agitating for a renewal of the Cold War or (God forbid) a shooting war with Russia. Anger, and disappointment will do strange things to weak minded people.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The progressive left are the unwitting puppets of Russia.
It is beginning to look like they will never realize this sad fact.

They've always been useful idiots.

 

[koshergrl]

Hillary's husband was "recruited" by the KGB when he was a student in England and protesting against his own Country. The Arkansas hick got himself an all expense paid tour of mother Russia (and probably a couple of classes in espionage). Lefties used to parade with Russian flags just to annoy WW2 Vets who shed blood for their Country and lefties just swooned over good old Gorbey and set him up with an office in the U.S. For some reason the CIA welcomed traitor Lee Oswald back to the U.S. with his KGB bride after he defected to Russia during the coldest part of the Cold War and nobody ever asked them what the hell they were doing. Russia is the 2nd most prolific nuclear power (maybe the first after Hillary paved the way for them to purchase crucial uranium sites) and we are finally getting around to a moderately stable relationship but somehow hypocrite lefties seem to be agitating for a renewal of the Cold War or (God forbid) a shooting war with Russia. Anger, and disappointment will do strange things to weak minded people.

And it still goes on. The son of my sister's best friend..who married a fucking die hard leftist piece of shit who works hard to instill communist ideals in the rural communities of Central Oregon via his work as some sort of federal land surveyor....lives in Russia and has for years. My sister in the 70s while attending UO dated a Russian language major..whose family came from Russia, who went back and forth from Russia..

These are marxists who have been entrenched in our schools and government for decades..and now they are pretending Trump is a traitor for speaking to Putin?

They have finally lost their nut.

 

[koshergrl]

The progressive left are the unwitting puppets of Russia.
It is beginning to look like they will never realize this sad fact.

They've always been useful idiots.

They aren't useful to us.

Unfortunately, it's their own side that kills them off when they cease to be useful..and their side lost.

 

[MarathonMike]

Whoa how did you know? You got me I now post for cases of Stoli and Russian caviar. Get a grip catcher

There's a place for sarcasm, sadly this is the wrong place and time. How would you know if you were recruited to push the agenda which you have; unless you critically examine your comments and thinking.

I doubt very much you've done that.

Most of them other than the real russian trolls on this board have no idea that they may been recruited through social media, they see a meme or some news on the internet and it's true and you're not going to change their minds. I have two relatives that do just that and then spread it all over the internet without checking a researching but by God to them it's true.

Yeah ok. Another possibility, I'm just throwing this out there, is that there are many Americans just as smart as you who see another political point of view. When you say "people who disagree with me are all pea brains" you do a disservice to yourself.

 

[Crepitus]

Denies defending Putin, does it in the next sentence.

Please quote the EXACT WORDS where I defended Putin and the post number I did it in, rather than just SAY I did.

Right here kid:

"I haven't seen one person here DEFEND Putin. But I have seen people point out that they have not seen any CONCLUSIVE PROOF that Russia tampered with the election. Even Julian Assange said a couple years ago that his source was NOT Russia. Oddly, the ONE PERSON we KNOW FOR A FACT colluded with Russia was Hillary! And no one is looking at that!"

That post is pretty solidly pro-russian, pro-putin.

Only in your sad little half-baked brain.

Dude, your words in black and white. Denying it only proves you are delusional.

 

[Wry Catcher]

For years many of those opposing RussiaGate were posting the left was pursuing a socialist / marxist agenda and calling out liberals, progressives and the Democratic Party as fellow travelers of Communism.

Now the same posters are defending Putin, attacking Mueller and in denial that Trump benefited, if not colluded, with Putin's agenda to attack HRC to Trump' benefit.

This is perplexing. Why is this switch in play by so many of you? Have you considered you have been recruited, and are now a recruiter?

One more thing, the Deep State Meme has never been defined. It is a conspiracy theory, but lacks the substance to even be called a theory.

Like China, Putin has embraced capitalism. He's selling natural gas to Merkel and her Islamic state. Like China, Putin is laughing at the uneducated, naive and gullible Americans who are embracing redistribution.

Putin is no more an enemy of the USA or German Islamic State than is Scotland. Trump and Putin have put the world on notice that we can be better friends and won't allow Soros and others to start a war.

Hillary lost because people had Obama fatigue, were tired of hearing how good stamps and unemployment checks powered the American economy and she was a worse candidate than Juan McCain.

Besides, the Eighties called.

Funny Frank, you were in my mind as one whose posting history was framed on the RED SCARE.

Now you side with Putin, because he's a "capitalist"? He's the same man with the same ethos he always was.

The modern democrat Party is far, far, far more red than either Putin or modern China.

The Red Scare was legitimate. McCarthy was accused of it in the time between Stalins USSR tried to start WWIII in Berlin and ChiComs killing US Marines in Korea.

Grow up Frank. The RED SCARE was not about economic policy, per se; it was about authoritarianism and totalitarianism. The Russian and Chinese people were governed by an extremely conservative leadership who controlled all aspect of society and culture - and still do today. And now, we are faced with the same form of leadership, embodied in the same two nations, still intent on world domination.

What's different today is we are not governed by Truman, IKE, JFK, LBJ or Nixon - all real patriots, notwithstanding their standing in retrospect - we are governed by the most inept, incompetent and likely the most corrupt POTUS in our history.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

For years many of those opposing RussiaGate were posting the left was pursuing a socialist / marxist agenda and calling out liberals, progressives and the Democratic Party as fellow travelers of Communism.

Now the same posters are defending Putin, attacking Mueller and in denial that Trump benefited, if not colluded, with Putin's agenda to attack HRC to Trump' benefit.

This is perplexing. Why is this switch in play by so many of you? Have you considered you have been recruited, and are now a recruiter?

One more thing, the Deep State Meme has never been defined. It is a conspiracy theory, but lacks the substance to even be called a theory.

Like China, Putin has embraced capitalism. He's selling natural gas to Merkel and her Islamic state. Like China, Putin is laughing at the uneducated, naive and gullible Americans who are embracing redistribution.

Putin is no more an enemy of the USA or German Islamic State than is Scotland. Trump and Putin have put the world on notice that we can be better friends and won't allow Soros and others to start a war.

Hillary lost because people had Obama fatigue, were tired of hearing how good stamps and unemployment checks powered the American economy and she was a worse candidate than Juan McCain.

Besides, the Eighties called.

Funny Frank, you were in my mind as one whose posting history was framed on the RED SCARE.

Now you side with Putin, because he's a "capitalist"? He's the same man with the same ethos he always was.

The modern democrat Party is far, far, far more red than either Putin or modern China.

The Red Scare was legitimate. McCarthy was accused of it in the time between Stalins USSR tried to start WWIII in Berlin and ChiComs killing US Marines in Korea.

What's different today is we are not governed by Truman, IKE, JFK, LBJ or Nixon - all real patriots, notwithstanding their standing in retrospect - we are governed by the most inept, incompetent and likely the most corrupt POTUS in our history.

 

[JWBooth]

For years many of those opposing RussiaGate were posting the left was pursuing a socialist / marxist agenda and calling out liberals, progressives and the Democratic Party as fellow travelers of Communism.

Now the same posters are defending Putin, attacking Mueller and in denial that Trump benefited, if not colluded, with Putin's agenda to attack HRC to Trump' benefit.

This is perplexing. Why is this switch in play by so many of you? Have you considered you have been recruited, and are now a recruiter?

One more thing, the Deep State Meme has never been defined. It is a conspiracy theory, but lacks the substance to even be called a theory.

Putin is the leader of a government and as such he is a bad character. Did people within his government fiddle with US elections with or without his knowlege? Maybe. If so, was it out of revenge for Shitlery as Secretary of State meddling in Russian elections trying to see to it Putin did not get elected?

 

[Wry Catcher]

The first to responders offer an opinion sans evidence. I have questions for them.

Did you accuse liberals, progressives and Democrats in the past of being fellow travelers of communism?

Yes or No. If yes, what has changed?

Nothing at all, you are still Marxists!

Which party does Bernie vote with? Which party does Ocasio-Cortez belong to? Which group burned an American flag in front of their persons office? Which party had the Orca of the Senate COLLUDE with Russia to try and defeat Ronaldus Maximus?

The list goes on, and on; you people are Marxist, you are either to young, or to dumb, to know it-)

I neither dumb or young. It's very clear you have no idea as to what Marx wrote and why, nor how his words have been used to hide the exact opposite of his system. Russian and China are two nation states which talked the talk of Marx, and walked the walk of despots and Authoritarianism.

And so, I am guessing YOU are genius who wants to try it again, lol. Why? Just go fix Cuba, hehehehehehehe-)

On this venue I'm beginning to believe I'm a genius, especially when I read a post like yours.

I support a democratic republic, just like the one I used to know (here in the USA). The three + decade of the Republican Party's agenda to create an authoritarian plutocracy has almost been established. There is hope now that they will fail, for their support for Trumpism has demonstrated our values have been compromised and the many will assert their concerns.

There are those, like me, who will continue to argue that the new iteration of conservatism is a neo fascist movement, and alien to every word left us by the founders in the Preamble to our Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.