Andylusion
Platinum Member
ok, now we are getting more in depth...TY
it could be pre-destined...
coupled with,
Faith... without works, is dead.
my question is,
Is scripture's ''Faith... without works, is dead'' message suppose to stop before the line of us self governing our own Nations?
We can be good and kind to the starving, thirsty, sick, stranger and imprisoned ONLY on our individual time and not as a society governed by ourselves?
Why not, believe in both?
Did Jesus say anywhere it was a sin, to support both? To be one of His followers in every breath one takes?
Because there is a huge difference between charity and compulsion.
YOU are not doing anything for the thirsty, sick, starving, imprisoned. Voting for someone else to do, with other people's money, what you yourself do not do... is no credit to you.
Do you understand? You have not done diddly jack. You have only demanded that others do stuff.
And equally, me giving of my money under the threat of the government, is not charity. Its closer to theft.
Analogy: I put a gun in your face, and take $1,000 out of your pocket. Then on the way off your property, I see a homeless guy, and dump $50 in his tin can.
Tell me, do you feel like you have been charitable? No. You don't. You feel as though you have been robbed.
Should I feel as though I have been charitable? No. I didn't give him anything I had. I gave him what I had taken from you.
There is nothing charitable about these entire scenario. Yet, that is exactly what having government confiscate other people's money, and dumping it on other people, is all about.
Jesus never wanted Government to be your G-d. Jesus wanted the church to engage in these activities.
And by the way, the Church and charitable groups are way better at it than the government. By far actually. Poverty has become a bigger and bigger problem, since the government started their war on poverty. Because paying people to not work, results in more people not working.
Charity has a completely different effect for two reasons. One, the charities have the ability to determine if they are being abused. When they see people abusing the system, they stop it.
Two, people who get charity, feel obligated.
This is completely different mindset to those sucking money from the tax payers.
People living off the government, believe they are owed something. They believe that they are entitled to something. There is no charitable feeling involved. It's more of a self-centered, "you owe me" belief system. Not only are they not grateful for what they are getting, but they disdain the people who are paying the taxes that fund their government handouts.
People who actually receive charity, have a feeling gratitude, because they know the person giving it, doesn't have to. They are not owed it. They are grateful to get it.
This is why many of the biggest supporters of charities, are actually the people who went through those charities during hard times. They want to pass on the help the received, by helping others.
People on government, never feel that way. Instead they feel as though they should have gotten more, and society should have been more helpful than they were.
