Zone1 HBCU's

[DGS49]

One of the points raised at the "debate" tonight was jousting over which candidate had provided more support for Black institutions, specifically HBCU's.

Is there any reason why Historically Black Colleges and Universities should continue to exist? Serious question.

There are essentially no junior colleges, colleges, or universities in the country where the descendants of our African enslaved people are rejected because of their race. There is no student so unqualified that s/he cannot find some institution of higher education that will admit him or her.

Graduates of HBCU's - like it or not - must live with a cloud on their credentials because of the facts mentioned in the preceding paragraph. The ones that have relatively good academic reputations can simply open their doors to all comers.

But why should any agency of any government support those institutions? It is perverse.

 

[IM2]

One of the points raised at the "debate" tonight was jousting over which candidate had provided more support for Black institutions, specifically HBCU's.

Is there any reason why Historically Black Colleges and Universities should continue to exist? Serious question.

There are essentially no junior colleges, colleges, or universities in the country where the descendants of our African enslaved people are rejected because of their race. There is no student so unqualified that s/he cannot find some institution of higher education that will admit him or her.

Graduates of HBCU's - like it or not - must live with a cloud on their credentials because of the facts mentioned in the preceding paragraph. The ones that have relatively good academic reputations can simply open their doors to all comers.

But why should any agency of any government support those institutions? It is perverse.

They should exist for the same fucking reasons that historically white universities exist. There is no cloud of credentials making graduates from HBCUS any less qualified than a graduate from a HWCU. Your post is racist. It assumes that HBCUS are not as good as HWCUS and that black graduates from HBCUS are not as qualified as those from HWCUS. And why should HBCUS close, why can't HWCUS close? Your question is not serious, it is racist.

 

[IM2]

Whites can and do enroll in HBCUS.

11.4 percent of al students in HBCUS are white.

Undergraduate Enrollment at HBCUs - Race and Ethnicity in Higher Education

www.equityinhighered.org

Historically Black Colleges Are Becoming More White​

Should the definition of a black college change if the student's are mostly white?

The makeup of America's HBCU's are changing

time.com

This is nearly the same amount of blacks who are in HWCUS. 14 percent of all college students are black, most are in HWCUS.

So there is no need for HBCUS to close any more than HWCUS.

 

[MarathonMike]

They shoud exist for the same fucking reasons that historically white universities exist. There is no cloud of credentials making graduates from HBCUS any less qualified than a graduate from a HWCU. Your post is racist. It assumes that HBCUS are not as good as HWCUS and that black graduates from HBCUS arenot as qualified as those from HWCUS. And why should HBCUS close, why can't HWCUS close? Your question is not serious, it is racist.

HWCUs are fine. Hey how about that debate tonight? Pretty sweet eh?

 

[sparky]

HPCU's ok then IM2?

Historically Palestinian College and University

~S~

 

[IM2]

HPCU's ok then IM2?

Historically Palestinian College and University

~S~

Stupid.

 

[sparky]

relevant perspectives escape you IM2......~S~

 

[MarcATL]

Explain the "perverse" part of it OP.

I'm curious to know.

 

[Montrovant]

One of the points raised at the "debate" tonight was jousting over which candidate had provided more support for Black institutions, specifically HBCU's.

Is there any reason why Historically Black Colleges and Universities should continue to exist? Serious question.

There are essentially no junior colleges, colleges, or universities in the country where the descendants of our African enslaved people are rejected because of their race. There is no student so unqualified that s/he cannot find some institution of higher education that will admit him or her.

Graduates of HBCU's - like it or not - must live with a cloud on their credentials because of the facts mentioned in the preceding paragraph. The ones that have relatively good academic reputations can simply open their doors to all comers.

But why should any agency of any government support those institutions? It is perverse.

Why would there be a cloud for graduates of HBCUs? That a person might be able to get into a school that is not a HBCU doesn't in any way mean the HBCU is somehow lesser.

 

[IM2]

relevant perspectives escape you IM2......~S~

No, it's stupid.

 

[IM2]

Explain the "perverse" part of it OP.

I'm curious to know.

Ignorance. I'm certain the OP doesn't see places like Harvard, Penn State,, Nebraska, University of Texas, etc., as historically white universities. He just sees them as universities. This is how whites have tricked themselves on matters of race. But you know this already. Unfortunately the OP doesn't.

 

[MarathonMike]

Ignorance. I'm certain the OP doesn't see places like Harvard, Penn State,, Nebraska, University of Texas, etc., as historically white universities. He just sees them as universities. This is how whites have tricked themselves on matters of race. But you know this already. Unfortunately the OP doesn't.

HBCU's are fine. As you say they don't exclude white applicants. But you and MarcATL should thank the OP for providing you both a distraction from The Debate.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

One of the points raised at the "debate" tonight was jousting over which candidate had provided more support for Black institutions, specifically HBCU's.

Is there any reason why Historically Black Colleges and Universities should continue to exist? Serious question.

There are essentially no junior colleges, colleges, or universities in the country where the descendants of our African enslaved people are rejected because of their race. There is no student so unqualified that s/he cannot find some institution of higher education that will admit him or her.

Graduates of HBCU's - like it or not - must live with a cloud on their credentials because of the facts mentioned in the preceding paragraph. The ones that have relatively good academic reputations can simply open their doors to all comers.

But why should any agency of any government support those institutions? It is perverse.

How duplicitous and disingenuous can you all be? You KNOW good and well that the reason that these institutions were created is because U.S. laws mandated "separate but equal" in all aspects of life, while much of white society refused to go to school with Black people at all, so the HBCUs were created out of necessity.

White racists are the reason they came into existence and now white racists are complaining that they exist at all.

Fucking evil.

 

[IM2]

Fucking evil.

The whole right wing white agenda is evil. They now why AA was created. They know why DEI is needed. But they created a lie about something being racist against whites just because whites don't get to have everything. That's evil.

 

[el midgetron]

We desperately need these HBCUs. They are our greatest hope that someday black people will know what computers are.



Clinging to the past is intrinsically important to black fragility and victimhood.

 

[el midgetron]

HBCUs are needed to protect fragile black people from shaking hands with white people.

 

[sparky]

Folks that blame their lack of achievement on anything but themselves are a sad lot.......~S~

 

[Lisa558]

One of the points raised at the "debate" tonight was jousting over which candidate had provided more support for Black institutions, specifically HBCU's.

Is there any reason why Historically Black Colleges and Universities should continue to exist? Serious question.

There are essentially no junior colleges, colleges, or universities in the country where the descendants of our African enslaved people are rejected because of their race. There is no student so unqualified that s/he cannot find some institution of higher education that will admit him or her.

Graduates of HBCU's - like it or not - must live with a cloud on their credentials because of the facts mentioned in the preceding paragraph. The ones that have relatively good academic reputations can simply open their doors to all comers.

But why should any agency of any government support those institutions? It is perverse.

DG….don’t get offended by IM2’s nasty reaction. He gets overly defensive and aggressive, and likes to call people racist for simply bringing up a valid question.

But to address his attack about there being historically white colleges and universities, so why not historical black colleges and universities, the point is that nobody refers to Yale or Princeton or UMass or Illinois State, etc., etc., as a HWCU, so why continue to refer to the HBCUs as such?

It doesn’t mean we get RID OF HBCUs. We just don’t have to distinguish them that way. After all, we don’t refer to Yeshiva University as a HJCU.

 

[Lisa558]

HBCUs are needed to protect fragile black people from shaking hands with white people.

WTH? That racist refused to shake the whites’ hands?! Now imagine if a white student did that to the black leaders.

Her name should be published so that any potential white employer knows he’s dealing with a nasty racist.

 

[Couchpotato]

They should exist for the same fucking reasons that historically white universities exist. There is no cloud of credentials making graduates from HBCUS any less qualified than a graduate from a HWCU. Your post is racist. It assumes that HBCUS are not as good as HWCUS and that black graduates from HBCUS are not as qualified as those from HWCUS. And why should HBCUS close, why can't HWCUS close? Your question is not serious, it is racist.

Can you name 1 university in the US that currently has only white students? And if you can does that university get money from the US government?