Health Care - we gotta fix this shit...

[SmokeALib]

I'm a conservative.
But even I realize that our health Care system is screwed.
Pharmacutical companies are gouging us out of our retirement savings.
Insurance companies are gouging us out of our 401k's.
Doctors and hospitals are performing unneeded procedures and prescribing unneeded drugs for profit.
I'm all about profit - but not profit over deceit.
And not profit over the well-being of American citizens.
I always thought the federal government was fundamental for our national defense, and national defense only.
Not any more.
Get rid of Medicare and Medicaid. Both systems are abused and bankrupt.
Have a single payer system. Tack on 5% on our paychecks and have the government have oversight.
Everybody has health care.
I hate to say it, but that's what it's come down to.

 

[chops_]

"I'm a conservative.
But even I realize that our health Care system is screwed."

I am also a conservative, too...but healthcare doesn't have to be as bad as you may think.
I belong to this and I am glad that I did.

Medi-Share | Christian Care Ministry

 

[WillowTree]

I'm a conservative.
But even I realize that our health Care system is screwed.
Pharmacutical companies are gouging us out of our retirement savings.
Insurance companies are gouging us out of our 401k's.
Doctors and hospitals are performing unneeded procedures and prescribing unneeded drugs for profit.
I'm all about profit - but not profit over deceit.
And not profit over the well-being of American citizens.
I always thought the federal government was fundamental for our national defense, and national defense only.
Not any more.
Get rid of Medicare and Medicaid. Both systems are abused and bankrupt.
Have a single payer system. Tack on 5% on our paychecks and have the government have oversight.
Everybody has health care.
I hate to say it, but that's what it's come down to.

Oh perfect! The government can do oversight!

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Outlaw health insurance and repeal medicare (pharma and provider windfall meal tickets). Problem solved.

 

[Rustic]

I'm a conservative.
But even I realize that our health Care system is screwed.
Pharmacutical companies are gouging us out of our retirement savings.
Insurance companies are gouging us out of our 401k's.
Doctors and hospitals are performing unneeded procedures and prescribing unneeded drugs for profit.
I'm all about profit - but not profit over deceit.
And not profit over the well-being of American citizens.
I always thought the federal government was fundamental for our national defense, and national defense only.
Not any more.
Get rid of Medicare and Medicaid. Both systems are abused and bankrupt.
Have a single payer system. Tack on 5% on our paychecks and have the government have oversight.
Everybody has health care.
I hate to say it, but that's what it's come down to.

Make your idea an opt in, People that want the nanny state they can have it. People that want nothing to do with it Automatically excluded

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

My coverage in retirement is fantastic, and since I paid for those before me, I want my cut.

 

[SmokeALib]

I took my wife to the emergency room. A couple with no insurance waiting next to us was asked for 0 dollars.
We have a so-called Cadillac insurance plan through my employer.
I was required to pay 100 dollars for the visit.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

I am too a Conservative and agree. Everyone needs quality health CARE, not just a once over & given some drug that has more side effects than it treats just so everyone in the loop gets rich. Dr's don't treat the problems, they treat the symptoms and that's not healthcare.

One of the things I do have a problem with having government regulated healthcare is I don't want them telling me what can be treated or not....although Dr's & Insurance already do that to some degree. I am thinking of the case of the little boy in England that they refused care because of his condition that even a US Dr said he'd do it, but they wouldn't let the boy come for treatment and soon died.

 

[Rustic]

My coverage in retirement is fantastic, and since I paid for those before me, I want my cut.

I am almost 50, I will never see a penny from any socialist entitlement programs I have paid in all my adult life... I want to cut bait and get the fuck out of that shit I don’t want to pay anymore into the shit...

 

[AntonToo]

I'm a conservative.
....
Have a single payer system. Tack on 5% on our paychecks and have the government have oversight.
Everybody has health care.

You are a liberal darling. Sorry to dissapoint.

Medicare-Medicaid is already 4.35% and you want to cover everyone for 5%? If we add them up, then we are in the ballpark at around 10%

 

[Rustic]

I'm a conservative.
....
Have a single payer system. Tack on 5% on our paychecks and have the government have oversight.
Everybody has health care.

You are a liberal darling. Sorry to dissapoint.

There is a reason why progressives like socialized healthcare… It benefits only them

 

[SmokeALib]

Older people need health care.
I'm not talking about over 65.
I'm talking about over 45.
And young people need catastrophic health care. Cancer, car accident, etc. One way or another. This has to be fixed.

 

[SmokeALib]

I'm a conservative.
....
Have a single payer system. Tack on 5% on our paychecks and have the government have oversight.
Everybody has health care.

You are a liberal darling. Sorry to dissapoint.

5% number is bad - Medicare-Medicaid is already 4.35% and you want to cover everyone for 5%?

Not a lib.

 

[Rustic]

Older people need health care.
I'm not talking about over 65.
I'm talking about over 45.
And young people need catastrophic health care. Cancer, car accident, etc. One way or another. This has to be fixed.

Only if the programs are voluntary, Millions of Americans want no socialized health care whatsoever

 

[AntonToo]

I'm a conservative.
....
Have a single payer system. Tack on 5% on our paychecks and have the government have oversight.
Everybody has health care.

You are a liberal darling. Sorry to dissapoint.

5% number is bad - Medicare-Medicaid is already 4.35% and you want to cover everyone for 5%?

Not a lib.

You want government run healthcare because you don't think free market can solve this issue --right?

That's a (very) liberal position.

Don't be ashamed SmokeALib

 

[Rustic]

I'm a conservative.
....
Have a single payer system. Tack on 5% on our paychecks and have the government have oversight.
Everybody has health care.

You are a liberal darling. Sorry to dissapoint.

Medicare-Medicaid is already 4.35% and you want to cover everyone for 5%? If we add them up, then we are in the ballpark at around 10%

Only cover the people that want to be covered...

 

[Rustic]

I'm a conservative.
....
Have a single payer system. Tack on 5% on our paychecks and have the government have oversight.
Everybody has health care.

You are a liberal darling. Sorry to dissapoint.

5% number is bad - Medicare-Medicaid is already 4.35% and you want to cover everyone for 5%?

Not a lib.

You want government run healthcare because you don't think free market can solve this issue --right?

That's a (very) liberal position.

Don't be ashamed.

No one should be forced into socialize medicine

 

[SmokeALib]

Older people need health care.
I'm not talking about over 65.
I'm talking about over 45.
And young people need catastrophic health care. Cancer, car accident, etc. One way or another. This has to be fixed.

Only if the programs are voluntary, Millions of Americans want no socialized health care whatsoever

I understand that. There are no easy answers to this problem. I don't necessarily want socialized health care, but we're all paying for it anyway. We need oversight, and we need it bad.

 

[SmokeALib]

I'm a conservative.
....
Have a single payer system. Tack on 5% on our paychecks and have the government have oversight.
Everybody has health care.

You are a liberal darling. Sorry to dissapoint.

5% number is bad - Medicare-Medicaid is already 4.35% and you want to cover everyone for 5%?

Not a lib.

You want government run healthcare because you don't think free market can solve this issue --right?

That's a (very) liberal position.

Don't be ashamed SmakeALib

I also don't believe the private sector can run our military or national defense. So that makes me a liberal? I don't think so.

 

[Rustic]

Older people need health care.
I'm not talking about over 65.
I'm talking about over 45.
And young people need catastrophic health care. Cancer, car accident, etc. One way or another. This has to be fixed.

Only if the programs are voluntary, Millions of Americans want no socialized health care whatsoever

I understand that. There are no easy answers to this problem. I don't necessarily want socialized health care, but we're all paying for it anyway. We need oversight, and we need it bad.

You fix it with an opt in, Forcing conservatives into socialized healthcare is a living hell for them