Rob37
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We cannot wait to repeal the ACA until we have a replacement bill. This approach will doom our effort because the Dems will fight us every step of the way on every measure we propose, and this process will go on forever. Ultimately, nothing will really get done and we will be stuck with Obama's healthcare abortion of a law.
As an aside, one has to wonder why we even need the ACA or a replacement. The fact is that the market will take care of health care. Prior to the ACA nobody was denied Healthcare if they were poor and lacked insurance. If you went to a publicly funded hospital they were required to treat you.
Taking a page out of the Alinsky playbook, this is what we should do. Repeal, with no fallback except for the free market. This itself is the end result for me. The market will adapt and fall all over itself to offer health care products to the consumer. It will be a niche market in the sense that it is newly opened and it needs to be filled. Hell, given how large the healthcare market is in terms of dollars, the sudden capitalistic surge of interest and investment into this sector will probably cause macro-economic numbers to soar and our overall economy to prosper. There will be a health care "bubble". It would be huge.
I compare this approach to an Alinsky tactic because the idea is that first you create a crisis. Then you implement a solution. Most of the pussies in today's America lack the stomach for true, unfettered capitalism. Unfortunately, this is what happens when you let the common man have too much influence on governing. Consumers will demand "protections" and all sorts of nonsense that will diminish investment returns and, therefore, quell capital investment.
So, instead of spending years arguing over replacing the ACA, let's just kill it now. Then with the impending and fictitious Armageddon out there, we can force the Dems to the table to work out something. In other words, they will have to co-own any bullshit enacted to replace the ACA.
Obviously, we do not have 60 seats in the Senate, yet. We need to pass a law through budget reconciliation that deletes the ACA. We could save a couple of things in order to provide political shelter to members, like allowing kids to stay on parents' policies until 26. Then, after we euthanize the ACA we start debating what, if any, replacement law we need.
Again, my preference is for the market to govern healthcare. That is, in fact, what will govern unless the government takes that away from us. What will most likely happen upon the demise of the ACA is that there will be a massive rush into the healthcare sector by capital investors to take advantage of this new and wide-open market. The results would be spectacular. Hell, I would make it a part of the repeal bill that all capital gains in the healthcare industry will be taxed at only 2%. The money will literally POUR into the healthcare sector.
All of the horror tales of what will happen if the ACA is repealed is pure fiction. These projections are flawed because repeal will not take place in a vacuum. They assume no replacement regime. However, something WILL replace the ACA as the healthcare regulatory regime. The default, and the best, is the market.
Moreover, remember that these same people touting these end of times projections are the ones that said the stock market would crash if Trump was elected. In fact, these people could not have been more work. The Dow, for example, is surging wildly to new highs since Trump was elected.
Right now our Republican representatives are being cowards. They don't want to do anything that will cause them to lose their seats. Further, they cannot openly debate the possibility of having no replacement for the ACA because the Democrats are just too good at whipping up the people in a panic. Honestly, the Dems are just better at politics than we are. It has been This ways for years now, partly because they have no problem with being backstabbing liars. But that is what we are dealing with.
We need to sneak this repeal into the budget reconciliation process that is coming up shortly and ram that fucker through with no debate. Once the "crisis" is in place with the ACA gone, then we can pass some bipartisan stop-gap measures for the short time between the death of the ACA and the market forces taking hold. It will be a very short time, by the way.
This is one of the pieces to the puzzle we must put together if we are going to save America. Electing Trump and Republican reps, Senators, and others is not enough. We need BOLD moves. If we do not take these bold moves then we will never get rid of this clusterfuck ACA and will most likely end up with a single-payer system when the ACA collapses, which is the intended result sought by ACA proponents (and a very Alinsky scheme).
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As an aside, one has to wonder why we even need the ACA or a replacement. The fact is that the market will take care of health care. Prior to the ACA nobody was denied Healthcare if they were poor and lacked insurance. If you went to a publicly funded hospital they were required to treat you.
Taking a page out of the Alinsky playbook, this is what we should do. Repeal, with no fallback except for the free market. This itself is the end result for me. The market will adapt and fall all over itself to offer health care products to the consumer. It will be a niche market in the sense that it is newly opened and it needs to be filled. Hell, given how large the healthcare market is in terms of dollars, the sudden capitalistic surge of interest and investment into this sector will probably cause macro-economic numbers to soar and our overall economy to prosper. There will be a health care "bubble". It would be huge.
I compare this approach to an Alinsky tactic because the idea is that first you create a crisis. Then you implement a solution. Most of the pussies in today's America lack the stomach for true, unfettered capitalism. Unfortunately, this is what happens when you let the common man have too much influence on governing. Consumers will demand "protections" and all sorts of nonsense that will diminish investment returns and, therefore, quell capital investment.
So, instead of spending years arguing over replacing the ACA, let's just kill it now. Then with the impending and fictitious Armageddon out there, we can force the Dems to the table to work out something. In other words, they will have to co-own any bullshit enacted to replace the ACA.
Obviously, we do not have 60 seats in the Senate, yet. We need to pass a law through budget reconciliation that deletes the ACA. We could save a couple of things in order to provide political shelter to members, like allowing kids to stay on parents' policies until 26. Then, after we euthanize the ACA we start debating what, if any, replacement law we need.
Again, my preference is for the market to govern healthcare. That is, in fact, what will govern unless the government takes that away from us. What will most likely happen upon the demise of the ACA is that there will be a massive rush into the healthcare sector by capital investors to take advantage of this new and wide-open market. The results would be spectacular. Hell, I would make it a part of the repeal bill that all capital gains in the healthcare industry will be taxed at only 2%. The money will literally POUR into the healthcare sector.
All of the horror tales of what will happen if the ACA is repealed is pure fiction. These projections are flawed because repeal will not take place in a vacuum. They assume no replacement regime. However, something WILL replace the ACA as the healthcare regulatory regime. The default, and the best, is the market.
Moreover, remember that these same people touting these end of times projections are the ones that said the stock market would crash if Trump was elected. In fact, these people could not have been more work. The Dow, for example, is surging wildly to new highs since Trump was elected.
Right now our Republican representatives are being cowards. They don't want to do anything that will cause them to lose their seats. Further, they cannot openly debate the possibility of having no replacement for the ACA because the Democrats are just too good at whipping up the people in a panic. Honestly, the Dems are just better at politics than we are. It has been This ways for years now, partly because they have no problem with being backstabbing liars. But that is what we are dealing with.
We need to sneak this repeal into the budget reconciliation process that is coming up shortly and ram that fucker through with no debate. Once the "crisis" is in place with the ACA gone, then we can pass some bipartisan stop-gap measures for the short time between the death of the ACA and the market forces taking hold. It will be a very short time, by the way.
This is one of the pieces to the puzzle we must put together if we are going to save America. Electing Trump and Republican reps, Senators, and others is not enough. We need BOLD moves. If we do not take these bold moves then we will never get rid of this clusterfuck ACA and will most likely end up with a single-payer system when the ACA collapses, which is the intended result sought by ACA proponents (and a very Alinsky scheme).
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