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Why so dense? You know that money that's always missing when you get your paycheck? Yea the taxes. Well under Cain, that missing money will return to your check. Essentially offsetting the 9% sales tax. In fact you will most likely come out ahead by far with the exception of new car or new home purchases. And how many poor people buy NEW houses or cars?Cain has never said anything about changing state taxes.
Do try to keep your hate based in reality will you. Less you enjoy being looked upon with the same admiration as TM.
Exactly...that is why his plan will lead to 16% sales tax
No freak'n way Cain
Go back to making pizza
Your outrage is completely comical.
Why so dense? You know that money that's always missing when you get your paycheck? Yea the taxes. Well under Cain, that missing money will return to your check. Essentially offsetting the 9% sales tax. In fact you will most likely come out ahead by far with the exception of new car or new home purchases. And how many poor people buy NEW houses or cars?Exactly...that is why his plan will lead to 16% sales tax
No freak'n way Cain
Go back to making pizza
Your outrage is completely comical.
So....if you are wealthy your tax rate drops from 36% down to 9%
If you are working poor, your tax rate drops from 14% down to 9% and you now have to pay a whopping 16% on EVERYTHING you buy
What a crock of shit
Why so dense? You know that money that's always missing when you get your paycheck? Yea the taxes. Well under Cain, that missing money will return to your check. Essentially offsetting the 9% sales tax. In fact you will most likely come out ahead by far with the exception of new car or new home purchases. And how many poor people buy NEW houses or cars?Cain has never said anything about changing state taxes.
Do try to keep your hate based in reality will you. Less you enjoy being looked upon with the same admiration as TM.
Exactly...that is why his plan will lead to 16% sales tax
No freak'n way Cain
Go back to making pizza
Your outrage is completely comical.
Who says I get the free ride so therefore why do you assume "I think that way"?
Just wanting to be clear what we're getting for 9-9-9; since answers aren't forthcoming over 2 and 3 pages, it would seem as though the answers, when they do eventually come, will not be ones that are popular. What is popular isn't always right and what is right...isn't always popular of course.
Do you love this Country?
Where did I say I assumed you did? Maybe you should try reading my post.why do you think that you are entitled to a free ride
Maybe you meant "you" in the "not me" sense? Maybe you should take remedial English courses.
Yes, I do love this country and I am more than happy to pay to keep it alive and well. Nor do I blame those who have more than me for, well, for having more than me.
What is popular today is socialism. It is what the OWS crowd are fighting for. Socialism is not what this country was built upon. You're right, what is popular isn't always right.
I do not believe that the socialists who are occupying Wall Street today have any love for this nation. They seem to know nothing about what has made this nation great. They seem to want to turn us into a second Soviet experiment.
Where the hell did we as parents go wrong? We have taught our children to be exactly what our parents despised... communists.
Immie
The train tracks are well behind you. Getting back to 9-9-9....does it replace the state and local taxes or is it another tax on top? I'm guessing it is does since most Cain supporters won't come on out and say it.
Why so dense? You know that money that's always missing when you get your paycheck? Yea the taxes. Well under Cain, that missing money will return to your check. Essentially offsetting the 9% sales tax. In fact you will most likely come out ahead by far with the exception of new car or new home purchases. And how many poor people buy NEW houses or cars?Exactly...that is why his plan will lead to 16% sales tax
No freak'n way Cain
Go back to making pizza
Your outrage is completely comical.
No taxes are charged for used car or used house purchases? Interesting.
However, those of the OWS variety ARE looking for a free ride. They are the ones that I want to ask those questions of.
Employment is not a prerequisite for exercising ones First Amendment rights.
I do not believe that the socialists who are occupying Wall Street today have any love for this nation. They seem to know nothing about what has made this nation great. They seem to want to turn us into a second Soviet experiment.
You make a number of assumptions without providing any evidence indeed: what evidence do you have that members of OWS are looking for a free ride or are socialists.
Getting back to 9-9-9...
Why? Whats the point of discussing idiocy?
To wit:
Cains 9% sales tax would be on top of whatever sales tax you currently pay. For me it would mean a 16% sales tax.
Don't think it will be too popular once people figure out what 9-9-9 really means.
Correct, that would be 16 percent for me as well.
However, those of the OWS variety ARE looking for a free ride. They are the ones that I want to ask those questions of.
Employment is not a prerequisite for exercising ones First Amendment rights.
You make a number of assumptions without providing any evidence indeed: what evidence do you have that members of OWS are looking for a free ride or are socialists.
Why? Whats the point of discussing idiocy?
To wit:
Cains 9% sales tax would be on top of whatever sales tax you currently pay. For me it would mean a 16% sales tax.
Don't think it will be too popular once people figure out what 9-9-9 really means.
Correct, that would be 16 percent for me as well.
Perhaps you have not read their "list of demands"?
They are socialists, there is no two ways to put it. They want the government to make everything equal so that they don't have to work. They want to be spoon fed. They want a frigging "living wage" for sitting on their damned asses in a park crapping on police cars. What the hell else can they be?
Immie
Why so dense? You know that money that's always missing when you get your paycheck? Yea the taxes. Well under Cain, that missing money will return to your check. Essentially offsetting the 9% sales tax. In fact you will most likely come out ahead by far with the exception of new car or new home purchases. And how many poor people buy NEW houses or cars?
Your outrage is completely comical.
No taxes are charged for used car or used house purchases? Interesting.
NO USED PRODUCTS have taxes assessed on them. Only new.
Where did I say I assumed you did? Maybe you should try reading my post.
Maybe you meant "you" in the "not me" sense? Maybe you should take remedial English courses.
Yes, I do love this country and I am more than happy to pay to keep it alive and well. Nor do I blame those who have more than me for, well, for having more than me.
What is popular today is socialism. It is what the OWS crowd are fighting for. Socialism is not what this country was built upon. You're right, what is popular isn't always right.
I do not believe that the socialists who are occupying Wall Street today have any love for this nation. They seem to know nothing about what has made this nation great. They seem to want to turn us into a second Soviet experiment.
Where the hell did we as parents go wrong? We have taught our children to be exactly what our parents despised... communists.
Immie
The train tracks are well behind you. Getting back to 9-9-9....does it replace the state and local taxes or is it another tax on top? I'm guessing it is does since most Cain supporters won't come on out and say it.
Maybe it is you that needs to take the remedial English course?
I addressed those questions to other people. I specifically said I wanted to ask those questions of people who made statements such as yours. I never asked you.
I am pretty certain if you go to Ebay.com you can find a copy of "Hooked on Phonics".
Immie
Employment is not a prerequisite for exercising ones First Amendment rights.
You make a number of assumptions without providing any evidence indeed: what evidence do you have that members of OWS are looking for a free ride or are socialists.
Why? Whats the point of discussing idiocy?
To wit:
Correct, that would be 16 percent for me as well.
Perhaps you have not read their "list of demands"?
They are socialists, there is no two ways to put it. They want the government to make everything equal so that they don't have to work. They want to be spoon fed. They want a frigging "living wage" for sitting on their damned asses in a park crapping on police cars. What the hell else can they be?
Immie
They want more than this...But of course, I'm not going into it as grampa murked u will get angery.
Why so dense? You know that money that's always missing when you get your paycheck? Yea the taxes. Well under Cain, that missing money will return to your check. Essentially offsetting the 9% sales tax. In fact you will most likely come out ahead by far with the exception of new car or new home purchases. And how many poor people buy NEW houses or cars?Cain has never said anything about changing state taxes.
Do try to keep your hate based in reality will you. Less you enjoy being looked upon with the same admiration as TM.
Exactly...that is why his plan will lead to 16% sales tax
No freak'n way Cain
Go back to making pizza
Your outrage is completely comical.
Where did I say I assumed you did? Maybe you should try reading my post.
Maybe you meant "you" in the "not me" sense? Maybe you should take remedial English courses.
Yes, I do love this country and I am more than happy to pay to keep it alive and well. Nor do I blame those who have more than me for, well, for having more than me.
What is popular today is socialism. It is what the OWS crowd are fighting for. Socialism is not what this country was built upon. You're right, what is popular isn't always right.
I do not believe that the socialists who are occupying Wall Street today have any love for this nation. They seem to know nothing about what has made this nation great. They seem to want to turn us into a second Soviet experiment.
Where the hell did we as parents go wrong? We have taught our children to be exactly what our parents despised... communists.
Immie
The train tracks are well behind you. Getting back to 9-9-9....does it replace the state and local taxes or is it another tax on top? I'm guessing it is does since most Cain supporters won't come on out and say it.
Cains 9% sales tax would be on top of whatever sales tax you currently pay. For me it would mean a 16% sales tax.
Don't think it will be too popular once people figure out what 9-9-9 really means
Why so dense? You know that money that's always missing when you get your paycheck? Yea the taxes. Well under Cain, that missing money will return to your check. Essentially offsetting the 9% sales tax. In fact you will most likely come out ahead by far with the exception of new car or new home purchases. And how many poor people buy NEW houses or cars?
Your outrage is completely comical.
So....if you are wealthy your tax rate drops from 36% down to 9%
If you are working poor, your tax rate drops from 14% down to 9% and you now have to pay a whopping 16% on EVERYTHING you buy
What a crock of shit
Your math is a crock of shit. Your already paying 7 to 9% sales tax. So its an increase of 9% not 16%
And who the Fuck currently has 14% with held from their checks? If your going to attempt to do math at least get the base figures correct would ya.....
Maybe you meant "you" in the "not me" sense? Maybe you should take remedial English courses.
The train tracks are well behind you. Getting back to 9-9-9....does it replace the state and local taxes or is it another tax on top? I'm guessing it is does since most Cain supporters won't come on out and say it.
Cains 9% sales tax would be on top of whatever sales tax you currently pay. For me it would mean a 16% sales tax.
Don't think it will be too popular once people figure out what 9-9-9 really means
I don't think it will be either. The effective tax rate on the lower and middle class would go up significantly not only in regards to "income tax" (the first 9%) but also by adding the National Sales Tax.
This plan would place a huge burden on low income people and the middle class. The total amounts that they pay would still not come close to that paid by the upper class, but the effective rate would be an outrageous burden on the lower classes.
I suspect there could be items that were not taxed such as food and clothing, but that won't alleviate the problem and once again you will open the doors for Congress to insert loopholes that benefit certain people.
Immie
Will that go down to 9 cents under 9-9-9?The United States federal excise tax on gasoline, as of February 2011, is 18.4 cents per gallon (4.86 ¢/L) and 24.4 cents per gallon (6.45 ¢/L) for diesel fuel.
So....if you are wealthy your tax rate drops from 36% down to 9%
If you are working poor, your tax rate drops from 14% down to 9% and you now have to pay a whopping 16% on EVERYTHING you buy
What a crock of shit
Your math is a crock of shit. Your already paying 7 to 9% sales tax. So its an increase of 9% not 16%
And who the Fuck currently has 14% with held from their checks? If your going to attempt to do math at least get the base figures correct would ya.....
The working poor are paying that right now, even less with deductions. Now they give up the standard deduction, dependent deductions, mortgage deductions all so they can drop a few percentage points? Meanwhile the wealthy, including Cain, get their tax rate slashed 24%?
Can Cain be any more obvious he is raping the poor?
Cains 9% sales tax would be on top of whatever sales tax you currently pay. For me it would mean a 16% sales tax.
Don't think it will be too popular once people figure out what 9-9-9 really means
I don't think it will be either. The effective tax rate on the lower and middle class would go up significantly not only in regards to "income tax" (the first 9%) but also by adding the National Sales Tax.
This plan would place a huge burden on low income people and the middle class. The total amounts that they pay would still not come close to that paid by the upper class, but the effective rate would be an outrageous burden on the lower classes.
I suspect there could be items that were not taxed such as food and clothing, but that won't alleviate the problem and once again you will open the doors for Congress to insert loopholes that benefit certain people.
Immie
Good point;
I got this off of Wikipedia:
Will that go down to 9 cents under 9-9-9?The United States federal excise tax on gasoline, as of February 2011, is 18.4 cents per gallon (4.86 ¢/L) and 24.4 cents per gallon (6.45 ¢/L) for diesel fuel.
Why so dense? You know that money that's always missing when you get your paycheck? Yea the taxes. Well under Cain, that missing money will return to your check. Essentially offsetting the 9% sales tax. In fact you will most likely come out ahead by far with the exception of new car or new home purchases. And how many poor people buy NEW houses or cars?Exactly...that is why his plan will lead to 16% sales tax
No freak'n way Cain
Go back to making pizza
Your outrage is completely comical.
So....if you are wealthy your tax rate drops from 36% down to 9%
If you are working poor, your tax rate drops from 14% down to 9% and you now have to pay a whopping 16% on EVERYTHING you buy
What a crock of shit
I don't think it will be either. The effective tax rate on the lower and middle class would go up significantly not only in regards to "income tax" (the first 9%) but also by adding the National Sales Tax.
This plan would place a huge burden on low income people and the middle class. The total amounts that they pay would still not come close to that paid by the upper class, but the effective rate would be an outrageous burden on the lower classes.
I suspect there could be items that were not taxed such as food and clothing, but that won't alleviate the problem and once again you will open the doors for Congress to insert loopholes that benefit certain people.
Immie
Good point;
I got this off of Wikipedia:
Will that go down to 9 cents under 9-9-9?The United States federal excise tax on gasoline, as of February 2011, is 18.4 cents per gallon (4.86 ¢/L) and 24.4 cents per gallon (6.45 ¢/L) for diesel fuel.
No, it won't replace those.
Why so dense? You know that money that's always missing when you get your paycheck? Yea the taxes. Well under Cain, that missing money will return to your check. Essentially offsetting the 9% sales tax. In fact you will most likely come out ahead by far with the exception of new car or new home purchases. And how many poor people buy NEW houses or cars?Exactly...that is why his plan will lead to 16% sales tax
No freak'n way Cain
Go back to making pizza
Your outrage is completely comical.
No taxes are charged for used car or used house purchases? Interesting.
