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The current standard of "law abiding" does not take into account factors such as mental health. The statistical evidence shows that gun control legislation helps to reduce gun deaths. Why wouldn't that apply to terrorism as well?It is a great idea. WHat problem do you have with it? If the person is law abiding, why shouldn't they? If they're not law abiding, no law is going to stop them from doing it.Whoa it's yet another Billy fail thread.Tell me, what sort of gun control laws are there that prevent terrorists from obtaining guns in red pieces-of-shit states like Texas
Texas Republican Freaks Out When He Realizes How Easy It Is For Refugees To Buy Guns (VIDEO)
"It’s far too easy to buy a gun in the United States – like, super easy. All it takes is a little bit of money, a driver’s license, and the ability to pass a federal background check, which by itself can be completed in as little as three minutes.
In case you’re wondering, that last part isn’t too hard either. According to a report released by the Washington Post recently, over 2,000 terror suspects have legally purchased guns in the United States since 2004. That’s an alarming number. It’s really all you need to know about how effective background checks for gun purchases are. If you want the official figures, only 700,000 people have been denied in the last decade. That may sound like a large number, but check this out – the FBI did more than 100 million checks. All in all, you have more than a 99% chance of passing with flying colors."
Hey, Billy. What backgrond check would have stopped the San Bernadino shooters from buying guns?Oh right let's let ANYONE carry a gun wherever they want. That's a great idea.This is because all mass shootings happen in gun free zones.And criminals have AR-15s available and prefer to use them in mass shootings.Yes but this doesn't change the fact that the AR-15 is a popular weapon to use in America's mass shootings.
Criminals will use what's available, that doesn't mean that I shouldn't have firepower equal to or greater than theirs, does it?
Perhaps you could find some anecdotal case, but it is statistically rare that a "good guy with a gun" neutralizes a mass shooting situation.
I notced you ignored my question on what background check would have prevented the SB killers from buying a gun. That's because your thread is yet another poorly thought out fail.
No I just understand the difference between anecdotal and statistical evidence.I clearly stated that the case is anecdotal. Do you not understand what that means?What exactly is your point?------------------------------------Oh right your anecdotal story about a boy shooting two people is enough to keep terrorists out of Texas. You know what rarely to never stops a mass shooting? The "good guy with a gun" concept. It doesnt happen.
Check this Dumb-Ass.
Two killed at Mohammed cartoon event in Garland, Texas - CNN.com
Remind us again what you said never happens.
Bullshit, it was a practical situation, one well trained good guy took out two bad guys. So I guess it's you who doesn't know the difference.
Wrong. Gun control is a total and complete failure. For most of the recent mass shooters they not only passed background checks but there was no background check that would have turned up anything disqualifying. They were law abiding citizens right up until they began killing people.The current standard of "law abiding" does not take into account factors such as mental health. The statistical evidence shows that gun control legislation helps to reduce gun deaths. Why wouldn't that apply to terrorism as well?It is a great idea. WHat problem do you have with it? If the person is law abiding, why shouldn't they? If they're not law abiding, no law is going to stop them from doing it.Whoa it's yet another Billy fail thread.Tell me, what sort of gun control laws are there that prevent terrorists from obtaining guns in red pieces-of-shit states like Texas
Texas Republican Freaks Out When He Realizes How Easy It Is For Refugees To Buy Guns (VIDEO)
"It’s far too easy to buy a gun in the United States – like, super easy. All it takes is a little bit of money, a driver’s license, and the ability to pass a federal background check, which by itself can be completed in as little as three minutes.
In case you’re wondering, that last part isn’t too hard either. According to a report released by the Washington Post recently, over 2,000 terror suspects have legally purchased guns in the United States since 2004. That’s an alarming number. It’s really all you need to know about how effective background checks for gun purchases are. If you want the official figures, only 700,000 people have been denied in the last decade. That may sound like a large number, but check this out – the FBI did more than 100 million checks. All in all, you have more than a 99% chance of passing with flying colors."
Hey, Billy. What backgrond check would have stopped the San Bernadino shooters from buying guns?Oh right let's let ANYONE carry a gun wherever they want. That's a great idea.This is because all mass shootings happen in gun free zones.And criminals have AR-15s available and prefer to use them in mass shootings.Criminals will use what's available, that doesn't mean that I shouldn't have firepower equal to or greater than theirs, does it?
Perhaps you could find some anecdotal case, but it is statistically rare that a "good guy with a gun" neutralizes a mass shooting situation.
I notced you ignored my question on what background check would have prevented the SB killers from buying a gun. That's because your thread is yet another poorly thought out fail.
Hard Evidence: does gun control work?
I don't know if the most recent case of terrorism could have been prevented with more in depth background check alone, but there is an inverse statistical relationship between gun control and gun deaths.
No. You said "it never happens." That is not true. It does happen. It doesnt happen enough because mass shootings are in gun free zones.No I just understand the difference between anecdotal and statistical evidence.I clearly stated that the case is anecdotal. Do you not understand what that means?What exactly is your point?------------------------------------
Check this Dumb-Ass.
Two killed at Mohammed cartoon event in Garland, Texas - CNN.com
Remind us again what you said never happens.
Bullshit, it was a practical situation, one well trained good guy took out two bad guys. So I guess it's you who doesn't know the difference.
You're such an idiot. I provide statistical evidence that gun control works and you, like a toddler, deny it. You're wrong, I'm right. Get over it.Wrong. Gun control is a total and complete failure. For most of the recent mass shooters they not only passed background checks but there was no background check that would have turned up anything disqualifying. They were law abiding citizens right up until they began killing people.The current standard of "law abiding" does not take into account factors such as mental health. The statistical evidence shows that gun control legislation helps to reduce gun deaths. Why wouldn't that apply to terrorism as well?It is a great idea. WHat problem do you have with it? If the person is law abiding, why shouldn't they? If they're not law abiding, no law is going to stop them from doing it.Whoa it's yet another Billy fail thread.Tell me, what sort of gun control laws are there that prevent terrorists from obtaining guns in red pieces-of-shit states like Texas
Texas Republican Freaks Out When He Realizes How Easy It Is For Refugees To Buy Guns (VIDEO)
"It’s far too easy to buy a gun in the United States – like, super easy. All it takes is a little bit of money, a driver’s license, and the ability to pass a federal background check, which by itself can be completed in as little as three minutes.
In case you’re wondering, that last part isn’t too hard either. According to a report released by the Washington Post recently, over 2,000 terror suspects have legally purchased guns in the United States since 2004. That’s an alarming number. It’s really all you need to know about how effective background checks for gun purchases are. If you want the official figures, only 700,000 people have been denied in the last decade. That may sound like a large number, but check this out – the FBI did more than 100 million checks. All in all, you have more than a 99% chance of passing with flying colors."
Hey, Billy. What backgrond check would have stopped the San Bernadino shooters from buying guns?Oh right let's let ANYONE carry a gun wherever they want. That's a great idea.This is because all mass shootings happen in gun free zones.And criminals have AR-15s available and prefer to use them in mass shootings.
Perhaps you could find some anecdotal case, but it is statistically rare that a "good guy with a gun" neutralizes a mass shooting situation.
I notced you ignored my question on what background check would have prevented the SB killers from buying a gun. That's because your thread is yet another poorly thought out fail.
Hard Evidence: does gun control work?
I don't know if the most recent case of terrorism could have been prevented with more in depth background check alone, but there is an inverse statistical relationship between gun control and gun deaths.
Tell me, what sort of gun control laws are there that prevent terrorists from obtaining guns in red pieces-of-shit states like Texas
Texas Republican Freaks Out When He Realizes How Easy It Is For Refugees To Buy Guns (VIDEO)
"It’s far too easy to buy a gun in the United States – like, super easy. All it takes is a little bit of money, a driver’s license, and the ability to pass a federal background check, which by itself can be completed in as little as three minutes.
In case you’re wondering, that last part isn’t too hard either. According to a report released by the Washington Post recently, over 2,000 terror suspects have legally purchased guns in the United States since 2004. That’s an alarming number. It’s really all you need to know about how effective background checks for gun purchases are. If you want the official figures, only 700,000 people have been denied in the last decade. That may sound like a large number, but check this out – the FBI did more than 100 million checks. All in all, you have more than a 99% chance of passing with flying colors."
There is no such thing as a law that prevents any crime from happening completely. Should we just make murder and rape legal because they both happen regardless?Tell me, what sort of gun control laws are there that prevent terrorists from obtaining guns in red pieces-of-shit states like Texas
Texas Republican Freaks Out When He Realizes How Easy It Is For Refugees To Buy Guns (VIDEO)
"It’s far too easy to buy a gun in the United States – like, super easy. All it takes is a little bit of money, a driver’s license, and the ability to pass a federal background check, which by itself can be completed in as little as three minutes.
In case you’re wondering, that last part isn’t too hard either. According to a report released by the Washington Post recently, over 2,000 terror suspects have legally purchased guns in the United States since 2004. That’s an alarming number. It’s really all you need to know about how effective background checks for gun purchases are. If you want the official figures, only 700,000 people have been denied in the last decade. That may sound like a large number, but check this out – the FBI did more than 100 million checks. All in all, you have more than a 99% chance of passing with flying colors."
Banning guns will not stop a terrorist from wreaking havoc. Tim McVeigh used a truck with explosives. The 9-11 Hijackers used box cutters. Eric Rudolph used IED's. The Boston Bombers used pressure cookers.
So as many believe that banning guns or curbing the ability to stop terrorists buying guns will not stop a terrorist and they will look for other ways to deal carnage if they can not obtain a firearm.
Sad fact to the reality we live in.
No I just understand the difference between anecdotal and statistical evidence.I clearly stated that the case is anecdotal. Do you not understand what that means?What exactly is your point?------------------------------------
Check this Dumb-Ass.
Two killed at Mohammed cartoon event in Garland, Texas - CNN.com
Remind us again what you said never happens.
Bullshit, it was a practical situation, one well trained good guy took out two bad guys. So I guess it's you who doesn't know the difference.
Tell me, what sort of gun control laws are there that prevent terrorists from obtaining guns in red pieces-of-shit states like Texas
Texas Republican Freaks Out When He Realizes How Easy It Is For Refugees To Buy Guns (VIDEO)
"It’s far too easy to buy a gun in the United States – like, super easy. All it takes is a little bit of money, a driver’s license, and the ability to pass a federal background check, which by itself can be completed in as little as three minutes.
In case you’re wondering, that last part isn’t too hard either. According to a report released by the Washington Post recently, over 2,000 terror suspects have legally purchased guns in the United States since 2004. That’s an alarming number. It’s really all you need to know about how effective background checks for gun purchases are. If you want the official figures, only 700,000 people have been denied in the last decade. That may sound like a large number, but check this out – the FBI did more than 100 million checks. All in all, you have more than a 99% chance of passing with flying colors."
There is no such thing as a law that prevents any crime from happening completely. Should we just make murder and rape legal because they both happen regardless?Tell me, what sort of gun control laws are there that prevent terrorists from obtaining guns in red pieces-of-shit states like Texas
Texas Republican Freaks Out When He Realizes How Easy It Is For Refugees To Buy Guns (VIDEO)
"It’s far too easy to buy a gun in the United States – like, super easy. All it takes is a little bit of money, a driver’s license, and the ability to pass a federal background check, which by itself can be completed in as little as three minutes.
In case you’re wondering, that last part isn’t too hard either. According to a report released by the Washington Post recently, over 2,000 terror suspects have legally purchased guns in the United States since 2004. That’s an alarming number. It’s really all you need to know about how effective background checks for gun purchases are. If you want the official figures, only 700,000 people have been denied in the last decade. That may sound like a large number, but check this out – the FBI did more than 100 million checks. All in all, you have more than a 99% chance of passing with flying colors."
Banning guns will not stop a terrorist from wreaking havoc. Tim McVeigh used a truck with explosives. The 9-11 Hijackers used box cutters. Eric Rudolph used IED's. The Boston Bombers used pressure cookers.
So as many believe that banning guns or curbing the ability to stop terrorists buying guns will not stop a terrorist and they will look for other ways to deal carnage if they can not obtain a firearm.
Sad fact to the reality we live in.
I don't understand why you nuts see this issue in such black and white terms. I never said anything about proposing law abiding people being stripped of their guns. My obvious point is how easy it is to get a gun in Texas if you're a terrorist.So you liberals have let these terrorists into the country and now you wanna blame jihadist terrorist attacks on our right to keep and bear arms?!
You guys won't seal the border. You won't even try to improve border security. You won't clamp down on visa overstays. You've made it harder for our intel people to detect terrorist coordination online. And now you wanna let 10,000 more Muslims enter the country. But somehow in your eyes the root of the problem is the 2nd Amendment! Incredible.
I will yet again point out that France has very strict gun laws. Automatic rifles are illegal, no exceptions. And Paris's gun laws are even tougher than the national laws. Yet, those severe gun laws did not stop Muslim terrorists from getting automatic weapons and other weapons they weren't supposed to be using.
It's such childish logic to say that just because a terrorist was able to obtain a gun in France that automatically means gun control in general is pointless. It doesn't take much rational to point out that strict gun gontrol legislation does discourage criminals from obtaining guns. Even when you control for population difference, gun related deaths in the US far exceed that of France.
There is no such thing as a law that prevents any crime from happening completely. Should we just make murder and rape legal because they both happen regardless?Tell me, what sort of gun control laws are there that prevent terrorists from obtaining guns in red pieces-of-shit states like Texas
Texas Republican Freaks Out When He Realizes How Easy It Is For Refugees To Buy Guns (VIDEO)
"It’s far too easy to buy a gun in the United States – like, super easy. All it takes is a little bit of money, a driver’s license, and the ability to pass a federal background check, which by itself can be completed in as little as three minutes.
In case you’re wondering, that last part isn’t too hard either. According to a report released by the Washington Post recently, over 2,000 terror suspects have legally purchased guns in the United States since 2004. That’s an alarming number. It’s really all you need to know about how effective background checks for gun purchases are. If you want the official figures, only 700,000 people have been denied in the last decade. That may sound like a large number, but check this out – the FBI did more than 100 million checks. All in all, you have more than a 99% chance of passing with flying colors."
Banning guns will not stop a terrorist from wreaking havoc. Tim McVeigh used a truck with explosives. The 9-11 Hijackers used box cutters. Eric Rudolph used IED's. The Boston Bombers used pressure cookers.
So as many believe that banning guns or curbing the ability to stop terrorists buying guns will not stop a terrorist and they will look for other ways to deal carnage if they can not obtain a firearm.
Sad fact to the reality we live in.
Oh right your anecdotal story about a boy shooting two people is enough to keep terrorists out of Texas. You know what rarely to never stops a mass shooting? The "good guy with a gun" concept. It doesnt happen.Nothing stops Lunatic Muslims from getting guns in Texas or anywhere else. legally or not...its just that they are learning not to use them in Texas.
Remember the two Lunatic Muslims that drove over to Texas to kill some cartoonists who made cartoons of Mohammed.
Texas boy dropped them both with a Glock--they barely got out of the car.
They pack in Texas.
Coward Muslims prefer California---where they have gun control.
Yes but this doesn't change the fact that the AR-15 is a popular weapon to use in America's mass shootings.Yes obviously it's less lethal but that doesn't change the fact that it is still highly effective in mass shootings.Lol right because AR-15s are so non lethal in comparison?The exact same things that stops them in CA or NY. Just count yourself luck they are buying legal firearms instead of fully auto AK-47s off the black market like they're doing in Europe. Those 7.62 rounds do a hell of a lot more damage than a 2.23 and have much more penetration. Why do you think they're preferred by gangs and drug cartels.
An AK is a lighter, magazine fed M-60 machine gun, an AR 15 chambered in the standard 2.23cal is much less lethal. Things that provide adequate cover from a 2.23 won't do shit against a 7.62. Anyone who's been in the military knows that.
So's a pump shotgun or a revolver if you know how to do tactical reloads.
I don't understand why you nuts see this issue in such black and white terms. I never said anything about proposing law abiding people being stripped of their guns. My obvious point is how easy it is to get a gun in Texas if you're a terrorist.So you liberals have let these terrorists into the country and now you wanna blame jihadist terrorist attacks on our right to keep and bear arms?!
You guys won't seal the border. You won't even try to improve border security. You won't clamp down on visa overstays. You've made it harder for our intel people to detect terrorist coordination online. And now you wanna let 10,000 more Muslims enter the country. But somehow in your eyes the root of the problem is the 2nd Amendment! Incredible.
I will yet again point out that France has very strict gun laws. Automatic rifles are illegal, no exceptions. And Paris's gun laws are even tougher than the national laws. Yet, those severe gun laws did not stop Muslim terrorists from getting automatic weapons and other weapons they weren't supposed to be using.
It's such childish logic to say that just because a terrorist was able to obtain a gun in France that automatically means gun control in general is pointless. It doesn't take much rational to point out that strict gun gontrol legislation does discourage criminals from obtaining guns. Even when you control for population difference, gun related deaths in the US far exceed that of France.
It doesn't take much rational to point out that strict gun gontrol legislation does discourage criminals from obtaining guns.
Yes but this doesn't change the fact that the AR-15 is a popular weapon to use in America's mass shootings.Yes obviously it's less lethal but that doesn't change the fact that it is still highly effective in mass shootings.Lol right because AR-15s are so non lethal in comparison?The exact same things that stops them in CA or NY. Just count yourself luck they are buying legal firearms instead of fully auto AK-47s off the black market like they're doing in Europe. Those 7.62 rounds do a hell of a lot more damage than a 2.23 and have much more penetration. Why do you think they're preferred by gangs and drug cartels.
An AK is a lighter, magazine fed M-60 machine gun, an AR 15 chambered in the standard 2.23cal is much less lethal. Things that provide adequate cover from a 2.23 won't do shit against a 7.62. Anyone who's been in the military knows that.
So's a pump shotgun or a revolver if you know how to do tactical reloads.
I wonder where the Columbine killers got their guns? i'm guessing not in Texas.comical...a pussy from the pussy state of colorado is talking trash about texas...Tell me, what sort of gun control laws are there that prevent terrorists from obtaining guns in red pieces-of-shit states like Texas
Texas Republican Freaks Out When He Realizes How Easy It Is For Refugees To Buy Guns (VIDEO)
"It’s far too easy to buy a gun in the United States – like, super easy. All it takes is a little bit of money, a driver’s license, and the ability to pass a federal background check, which by itself can be completed in as little as three minutes.
In case you’re wondering, that last part isn’t too hard either. According to a report released by the Washington Post recently, over 2,000 terror suspects have legally purchased guns in the United States since 2004. That’s an alarming number. It’s really all you need to know about how effective background checks for gun purchases are. If you want the official figures, only 700,000 people have been denied in the last decade. That may sound like a large number, but check this out – the FBI did more than 100 million checks. All in all, you have more than a 99% chance of passing with flying colors."
Whoa it's yet another Billy fail thread.Tell me, what sort of gun control laws are there that prevent terrorists from obtaining guns in red pieces-of-shit states like Texas
Texas Republican Freaks Out When He Realizes How Easy It Is For Refugees To Buy Guns (VIDEO)
"It’s far too easy to buy a gun in the United States – like, super easy. All it takes is a little bit of money, a driver’s license, and the ability to pass a federal background check, which by itself can be completed in as little as three minutes.
In case you’re wondering, that last part isn’t too hard either. According to a report released by the Washington Post recently, over 2,000 terror suspects have legally purchased guns in the United States since 2004. That’s an alarming number. It’s really all you need to know about how effective background checks for gun purchases are. If you want the official figures, only 700,000 people have been denied in the last decade. That may sound like a large number, but check this out – the FBI did more than 100 million checks. All in all, you have more than a 99% chance of passing with flying colors."
Hey, Billy. What backgrond check would have stopped the San Bernadino shooters from buying guns?Oh right let's let ANYONE carry a gun wherever they want. That's a great idea.This is because all mass shootings happen in gun free zones.And criminals have AR-15s available and prefer to use them in mass shootings.Yes but this doesn't change the fact that the AR-15 is a popular weapon to use in America's mass shootings.So's a pump shotgun or a revolver if you know how to do tactical reloads.
Criminals will use what's available, that doesn't mean that I shouldn't have firepower equal to or greater than theirs, does it?
Perhaps you could find some anecdotal case, but it is statistically rare that a "good guy with a gun" neutralizes a mass shooting situation.
Dumba$$There is no such thing as a law that prevents any crime from happening completely. Should we just make murder and rape legal because they both happen regardless?Tell me, what sort of gun control laws are there that prevent terrorists from obtaining guns in red pieces-of-shit states like Texas
Texas Republican Freaks Out When He Realizes How Easy It Is For Refugees To Buy Guns (VIDEO)
"It’s far too easy to buy a gun in the United States – like, super easy. All it takes is a little bit of money, a driver’s license, and the ability to pass a federal background check, which by itself can be completed in as little as three minutes.
In case you’re wondering, that last part isn’t too hard either. According to a report released by the Washington Post recently, over 2,000 terror suspects have legally purchased guns in the United States since 2004. That’s an alarming number. It’s really all you need to know about how effective background checks for gun purchases are. If you want the official figures, only 700,000 people have been denied in the last decade. That may sound like a large number, but check this out – the FBI did more than 100 million checks. All in all, you have more than a 99% chance of passing with flying colors."
Banning guns will not stop a terrorist from wreaking havoc. Tim McVeigh used a truck with explosives. The 9-11 Hijackers used box cutters. Eric Rudolph used IED's. The Boston Bombers used pressure cookers.
So as many believe that banning guns or curbing the ability to stop terrorists buying guns will not stop a terrorist and they will look for other ways to deal carnage if they can not obtain a firearm.
Sad fact to the reality we live in.
Oh Lord!
1. The Constitution is clear and Americans have the right to bear arms. Don't like it then have the amendment appealed.
2. A terrorist will use any weapon that is at their disposal. I pointed out the fact that some of the biggest attacks on U.S. soil were done by terrorists that did not use a firearm to carry out their attack. ( OKC and 9-11 attacks )
3. Nowhere did I write we should do away with laws that are against murder or rape, and usage of a firearm that results to murder is covered under those law and should result in swift death for the individual if found guilty of first degree murder.
Now what part of that do you not understand?
Do i believe the average American need a AR-15 to hunt with?
No, and in fact I hunt with a single shot shotgun, so no need for a gun like that. ( Ar-15 )
Some believe they need it but it is not needed and is overkill.
So as you attempt to make a strawman argument with me I will just calmly tell you that your argument about doing away with laws is just pure bullshit!
Tell me, what sort of gun control laws are there that prevent terrorists from obtaining guns in red pieces-of-shit states like Texas
Texas Republican Freaks Out When He Realizes How Easy It Is For Refugees To Buy Guns (VIDEO)
"It’s far too easy to buy a gun in the United States – like, super easy. All it takes is a little bit of money, a driver’s license, and the ability to pass a federal background check, which by itself can be completed in as little as three minutes.
In case you’re wondering, that last part isn’t too hard either. According to a report released by the Washington Post recently, over 2,000 terror suspects have legally purchased guns in the United States since 2004. That’s an alarming number. It’s really all you need to know about how effective background checks for gun purchases are. If you want the official figures, only 700,000 people have been denied in the last decade. That may sound like a large number, but check this out – the FBI did more than 100 million checks. All in all, you have more than a 99% chance of passing with flying colors."
