Higher Gas Prices. Trump's Payoff To Putin?

[edthecynic]

So now you're no longer claiming Trump got kick backs from Russian and Saudi Arabia but that he "shook down" AT&T for millions?

Why is one mutually exclusive of the other?????

 

[nat4900]

Right because gas prices have never gone up in the Summer before.
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Well, some facts are always helpful.........

In late spring 2016, the gallon of unleaded was averaging $170...Sure enough, come summer, the price rose to $1,85-$1,90

This coming summer (2018,) the gallon will witness a rise to just under $3.00 in most states (CA and HI with just under $4.00.)

Let's all send a thank you note to the orange buffoon for that "huge" tax cuts to the middle class drivers.

 

[Oldstyle]

So now you're no longer claiming Trump got kick backs from Russian and Saudi Arabia but that he "shook down" AT&T for millions?

Why is one mutually exclusive of the other?????

I'd settle for proof that EITHER happened...something that Sparky can't seem to produce! Care to help?

 

[Oldstyle]

Right because gas prices have never gone up in the Summer before.
View attachment 195318

Well, some facts are always helpful.........

In late spring 2016, the gallon of unleaded was averaging $170...Sure enough, come summer, the price rose to $1,85-$1,90

This coming summer (2018,) the gallon will witness a rise to just under $3.00 in most states (CA and HI with just under $4.00.)

Let's all send a thank you note to the orange buffoon for that "huge" tax cuts to the middle class drivers.

Let's see how savvy you are about fuel prices, Nat! What caused the low prices in 2016? What's causing them to rise now?

 

[Papageorgio]

The pulling out of the Iranian nuclear deal did nothing for the US but it sure helped petro-criminals like Putin and the Saudis. With Iranian oil off the market the Russians, Saudis and big oil are all able to make huge profits.

The American consumer is now stuck with the bill. That scam wasn't much different from Trump University scams.

Are you really as stupid as you are coming across to be? Every summer gas prices go up and every year right after New Years they drop. Get a clue troll.

 

[Imissbush]

Americans are literally paying for Trump's corruption right at the pump! He's charging Americans directly to be their president

 

[Imissbush]

The pulling out of the Iranian nuclear deal did nothing for the US but it sure helped petro-criminals like Putin and the Saudis. With Iranian oil off the market the Russians, Saudis and big oil are all able to make huge profits.

The American consumer is now stuck with the bill. That scam wasn't much different from Trump University scams.

Are you really as stupid as you are coming across to be? Every summer gas prices go up and every year right after New Years they drop. Get a clue troll.

Ya sure. Sorry, Trumptard logic isn't worth listening to.

Trump's corrupt gang are ripping us off blind and leaving a mountain of debt behind. What a scam!

 

[edthecynic]

So now you're no longer claiming Trump got kick backs from Russian and Saudi Arabia but that he "shook down" AT&T for millions?

Why is one mutually exclusive of the other?????

I'd settle for proof that EITHER happened...something that Sparky can't seem to produce! Care to help?

Sure, it is the same kind of "proof" the lying scum Right uses to say Hillary was paid by the Russians for the Uranium One sale, so you can't deny it. The lying scum Right says millions were paid to a third party shell entity, the Clinton Foundation, and the Russians, Saudis, AT&T and many others paid millions to Tramp's bag-man Cohen's shell company Essential Consulting. The only difference is the millions paid to the Clinton Foundation were from a Canadian, and the millions paid to Essential Consulting WERE from the Russians, Saudis, AT&T and many others.

 

[Oldstyle]

So now you're no longer claiming Trump got kick backs from Russian and Saudi Arabia but that he "shook down" AT&T for millions?

Why is one mutually exclusive of the other?????

I'd settle for proof that EITHER happened...something that Sparky can't seem to produce! Care to help?

Sure, it is the same kind of "proof" the lying scum Right uses to say Hillary was paid by the Russians for the Uranium One sale, so you can't deny it. The lying scum Right says millions were paid to a third party shell entity, the Clinton Foundation, and the Russians, Saudis, AT&T and many others paid millions to Tramp's bag-man Cohen's shell company Essential Consulting. The only difference is the millions paid to the Clinton Foundation were from a Canadian, and the millions paid to Essential Consulting WERE from the Russians, Saudis, AT&T and many others.

LOL...wow...do you REALLY think that nonsense is going to stand up to an examination, Ed? You're now claiming that Russians and Saudis didn't pay into the Clinton Foundation?

"That the Clinton Foundation has done some good work is beyond dispute. But that fact has exactly nothing to do with the profound ethical problems and corruption threats raised by the way its funds have been raised. Hillary Clinton was America’s chief diplomat, and tyrannical regimes such as the Saudis and Qataris jointly donated tens of millions of dollars to an organization run by her family and operated in its name, one whose works has been a prominent feature of her public persona. That extremely valuable opportunity to curry favor with the Clintons, and to secure access to them, continues as she runs for president.

The claim that this is all just about trying to help people in need should not even pass a laugh test, let alone rational scrutiny. To see how true that is, just look at who some of the biggest donors are. Although it did not give while she was secretary of state, the Saudi regime by itself has donated between $10 million and $25 million to the Clinton Foundation, with donations coming as late as 2014, as she prepared her presidential run. A group called “Friends of Saudi Arabia,” co-founded “by a Saudi Prince,” gave an additional amount between $1 million and $5 million. The Clinton Foundation says that between $1 million and $5 million was also donated by “the State of Qatar,” the United Arab Emirates, and the government of Brunei. “The State of Kuwait” has donated between $5 million and $10 million.

Theoretically, one could say that these regimes — among the most repressive and regressive in the world — are donating because they deeply believe in the charitable work of the Clinton Foundation and want to help those in need. Is there a single person on the planet who actually believes this? Is Clinton loyalty really so strong that people are going to argue with a straight face that the reason the Saudi, Qatari, Kuwaiti and Emirates regimes donated large amounts of money to the Clinton Foundation is because those regimes simply want to help the foundation achieve its magnanimous goals?"
Why Did the Saudi Regime and Other Gulf Tyrannies Donate Millions to the Clinton Foundation?

 

[Papageorgio]

The pulling out of the Iranian nuclear deal did nothing for the US but it sure helped petro-criminals like Putin and the Saudis. With Iranian oil off the market the Russians, Saudis and big oil are all able to make huge profits.

The American consumer is now stuck with the bill. That scam wasn't much different from Trump University scams.

Are you really as stupid as you are coming across to be? Every summer gas prices go up and every year right after New Years they drop. Get a clue troll.

Ya sure. Sorry, Trumptard logic isn't worth listening to.

Trump's corrupt gang are ripping us off blind and leaving a mountain of debt behind. What a scam!

You are full of shit, are you going to tell us that Obama caused the gas spikes in the summers he was President?

 

[Oldstyle]

So now you're no longer claiming Trump got kick backs from Russian and Saudi Arabia but that he "shook down" AT&T for millions?

Why is one mutually exclusive of the other?????

I'd settle for proof that EITHER happened...something that Sparky can't seem to produce! Care to help?

Sure, it is the same kind of "proof" the lying scum Right uses to say Hillary was paid by the Russians for the Uranium One sale, so you can't deny it. The lying scum Right says millions were paid to a third party shell entity, the Clinton Foundation, and the Russians, Saudis, AT&T and many others paid millions to Tramp's bag-man Cohen's shell company Essential Consulting. The only difference is the millions paid to the Clinton Foundation were from a Canadian, and the millions paid to Essential Consulting WERE from the Russians, Saudis, AT&T and many others.

And Ed? I believe the Canadian donation you're referring to came from the company that sold those uranium rights to Russia. Sure you want to go down that path?

 

[edthecynic]

So now you're no longer claiming Trump got kick backs from Russian and Saudi Arabia but that he "shook down" AT&T for millions?

Why is one mutually exclusive of the other?????

I'd settle for proof that EITHER happened...something that Sparky can't seem to produce! Care to help?

Sure, it is the same kind of "proof" the lying scum Right uses to say Hillary was paid by the Russians for the Uranium One sale, so you can't deny it. The lying scum Right says millions were paid to a third party shell entity, the Clinton Foundation, and the Russians, Saudis, AT&T and many others paid millions to Tramp's bag-man Cohen's shell company Essential Consulting. The only difference is the millions paid to the Clinton Foundation were from a Canadian, and the millions paid to Essential Consulting WERE from the Russians, Saudis, AT&T and many others.

LOL...wow...do you REALLY think that nonsense is going to stand up to an examination, Ed? You're now claiming that Russians and Saudis didn't pay into the Clinton Foundation?

"That the Clinton Foundation has done some good work is beyond dispute. But that fact has exactly nothing to do with the profound ethical problems and corruption threats raised by the way its funds have been raised. Hillary Clinton was America’s chief diplomat, and tyrannical regimes such as the Saudis and Qataris jointly donated tens of millions of dollars to an organization run by her family and operated in its name, one whose works has been a prominent feature of her public persona. That extremely valuable opportunity to curry favor with the Clintons, and to secure access to them, continues as she runs for president.

The claim that this is all just about trying to help people in need should not even pass a laugh test, let alone rational scrutiny. To see how true that is, just look at who some of the biggest donors are. Although it did not give while she was secretary of state, the Saudi regime by itself has donated between $10 million and $25 million to the Clinton Foundation, with donations coming as late as 2014, as she prepared her presidential run. A group called “Friends of Saudi Arabia,” co-founded “by a Saudi Prince,” gave an additional amount between $1 million and $5 million. The Clinton Foundation says that between $1 million and $5 million was also donated by “the State of Qatar,” the United Arab Emirates, and the government of Brunei. “The State of Kuwait” has donated between $5 million and $10 million.

Theoretically, one could say that these regimes — among the most repressive and regressive in the world — are donating because they deeply believe in the charitable work of the Clinton Foundation and want to help those in need. Is there a single person on the planet who actually believes this? Is Clinton loyalty really so strong that people are going to argue with a straight face that the reason the Saudi, Qatari, Kuwaiti and Emirates regimes donated large amounts of money to the Clinton Foundation is because those regimes simply want to help the foundation achieve its magnanimous goals?"
Why Did the Saudi Regime and Other Gulf Tyrannies Donate Millions to the Clinton Foundation?

Gee your own post shows no Russian donations to the Clinton Foundation, so thank you for confirming the $145 million the lying scum Right said was donated to the Clinton Foundation by the Russians for the Uranium One deal was actually donated by a Canadian.

 

[edthecynic]

So now you're no longer claiming Trump got kick backs from Russian and Saudi Arabia but that he "shook down" AT&T for millions?

Why is one mutually exclusive of the other?????

I'd settle for proof that EITHER happened...something that Sparky can't seem to produce! Care to help?

Sure, it is the same kind of "proof" the lying scum Right uses to say Hillary was paid by the Russians for the Uranium One sale, so you can't deny it. The lying scum Right says millions were paid to a third party shell entity, the Clinton Foundation, and the Russians, Saudis, AT&T and many others paid millions to Tramp's bag-man Cohen's shell company Essential Consulting. The only difference is the millions paid to the Clinton Foundation were from a Canadian, and the millions paid to Essential Consulting WERE from the Russians, Saudis, AT&T and many others.

And Ed? I believe the Canadian donation you're referring to came from the company that sold those uranium rights to Russia. Sure you want to go down that path?

No it came from the Canadian founder who divested from Uranium One 3 years before the company was sold to Russia, but you knew that already, so yes let us go down that path.

 

[boedicca]

The gubmint takes more in taxes per
gallon than the oil companies make i profit.

Bullshit!
You idiots will believe anything especially the lie that oil companies only make a profit selling the gasoline at your local gas station. According to those STUPID enough to vote for Tramp, the oil companies pump the crude from the ground for free, and refine it into various products for free, sell jet fuel for free, and sell heating oil for free they do everything at no profit except sell the gasoline locally.

^^^ Fish in a Barrel ^^^

Try doing some research before posting your nonsense.

At the gas tank integrated oil companies make about 7 cents per gallon. Meanwhile, the government extracts more than 48 cents, on average, per gallon. That's right: Uncle Sam takes nearly seven times more out of drivers' wallets via taxation than "Big Oil."

Oil Company Earnings: Reality Over Rhetoric

And here is some data from the the California State government, which isn't exactly pro oil company.

Estimated 2018 Gasoline Price Breakdown & Margins Details

Note: total taxes and fees are $.70 per gallon. The two areas which include "profit" are labeled Costs & Profit "Distribution Etc." and "Refining Etc.". These two categories total $1.16. For the profit to exceed the cost per gallon, the profit margin would have to be 60%! Given that highly profitable oil companies report about 10% net income, there is no bloody way in hell they are making 60%+ profit on a gallon of gas.

You lose!

 

[edthecynic]

The gubmint takes more in taxes per
gallon than the oil companies make i profit.

Bullshit!
You idiots will believe anything especially the lie that oil companies only make a profit selling the gasoline at your local gas station. According to those STUPID enough to vote for Tramp, the oil companies pump the crude from the ground for free, and refine it into various products for free, sell jet fuel for free, and sell heating oil for free they do everything at no profit except sell the gasoline locally.

^^^ Fish in a Barrel ^^^

Try doing some research before posting your nonsense.

At the gas tank integrated oil companies make about 7 cents per gallon. Meanwhile, the government extracts more than 48 cents, on average, per gallon. That's right: Uncle Sam takes nearly seven times more out of drivers' wallets via taxation than "Big Oil."

Oil Company Earnings: Reality Over Rhetoric

And here is some data from the the California State government, which isn't exactly pro oil company.

Estimated 2018 Gasoline Price Breakdown & Margins Details

Note: total taxes and fees are $.70 per gallon. The two areas which include "profit" are labeled Costs & Profit "Distribution Etc." and "Refining Etc.". These two categories total $1.16. For the profit to exceed the cost per gallon, the profit margin would have to be 60%! Given that highly profitable oil companies report about 10% net income, there is no bloody way in hell they are making 60%+ profit on a gallon of gas.

You lose!

And there it is folks, exactly as I predicted. First the claim Oil companies only make 7 cents per gallon of gas while the government takes 48 cents, as if the sale at the pump is the only profit for oil companies.

Then the fool includes distribution and refining profit of $1.16 per gallon which beats the government take of $.70 per gallon, proving the oil companies make more in profits than the government takes in taxes without even including the profit oil companies make off of a barrel of crude!!!!

Then the fool claims victory after exposing her own lie!!!!!

Crude is selling just under $70 a barrel now and it costs $20.99 to produce a barrel of non shale crude and $23.35 to produce a barrel of shale oil, and that includes taxes! So for shale oil the profit margin is about 300% and non shale oil even more!!!!!!

Barrel Breakdown

 

[Oldstyle]

So now you're no longer claiming Trump got kick backs from Russian and Saudi Arabia but that he "shook down" AT&T for millions?

Why is one mutually exclusive of the other?????

I'd settle for proof that EITHER happened...something that Sparky can't seem to produce! Care to help?

Sure, it is the same kind of "proof" the lying scum Right uses to say Hillary was paid by the Russians for the Uranium One sale, so you can't deny it. The lying scum Right says millions were paid to a third party shell entity, the Clinton Foundation, and the Russians, Saudis, AT&T and many others paid millions to Tramp's bag-man Cohen's shell company Essential Consulting. The only difference is the millions paid to the Clinton Foundation were from a Canadian, and the millions paid to Essential Consulting WERE from the Russians, Saudis, AT&T and many others.

LOL...wow...do you REALLY think that nonsense is going to stand up to an examination, Ed? You're now claiming that Russians and Saudis didn't pay into the Clinton Foundation?

"That the Clinton Foundation has done some good work is beyond dispute. But that fact has exactly nothing to do with the profound ethical problems and corruption threats raised by the way its funds have been raised. Hillary Clinton was America’s chief diplomat, and tyrannical regimes such as the Saudis and Qataris jointly donated tens of millions of dollars to an organization run by her family and operated in its name, one whose works has been a prominent feature of her public persona. That extremely valuable opportunity to curry favor with the Clintons, and to secure access to them, continues as she runs for president.

The claim that this is all just about trying to help people in need should not even pass a laugh test, let alone rational scrutiny. To see how true that is, just look at who some of the biggest donors are. Although it did not give while she was secretary of state, the Saudi regime by itself has donated between $10 million and $25 million to the Clinton Foundation, with donations coming as late as 2014, as she prepared her presidential run. A group called “Friends of Saudi Arabia,” co-founded “by a Saudi Prince,” gave an additional amount between $1 million and $5 million. The Clinton Foundation says that between $1 million and $5 million was also donated by “the State of Qatar,” the United Arab Emirates, and the government of Brunei. “The State of Kuwait” has donated between $5 million and $10 million.

Theoretically, one could say that these regimes — among the most repressive and regressive in the world — are donating because they deeply believe in the charitable work of the Clinton Foundation and want to help those in need. Is there a single person on the planet who actually believes this? Is Clinton loyalty really so strong that people are going to argue with a straight face that the reason the Saudi, Qatari, Kuwaiti and Emirates regimes donated large amounts of money to the Clinton Foundation is because those regimes simply want to help the foundation achieve its magnanimous goals?"
Why Did the Saudi Regime and Other Gulf Tyrannies Donate Millions to the Clinton Foundation?

Gee your own post shows no Russian donations to the Clinton Foundation, so thank you for confirming the $145 million the lying scum Right said was donated to the Clinton Foundation by the Russians for the Uranium One deal was actually donated by a Canadian.

Who was that Canadian, Ed? Care to guess why he'd be giving all that money to the Clinton Foundation at that moment? Care to guess how much he's given SINCE? The real proof of what the Clinton's were doing is simply looking at what they were taking in in donations before Hillary lost her bid for the Presidency and what they're taking in now! Why WOULD those donations drop off a cliff like they have! Duh?

 

[Oldstyle]

So now you're no longer claiming Trump got kick backs from Russian and Saudi Arabia but that he "shook down" AT&T for millions?

Why is one mutually exclusive of the other?????

I'd settle for proof that EITHER happened...something that Sparky can't seem to produce! Care to help?

Sure, it is the same kind of "proof" the lying scum Right uses to say Hillary was paid by the Russians for the Uranium One sale, so you can't deny it. The lying scum Right says millions were paid to a third party shell entity, the Clinton Foundation, and the Russians, Saudis, AT&T and many others paid millions to Tramp's bag-man Cohen's shell company Essential Consulting. The only difference is the millions paid to the Clinton Foundation were from a Canadian, and the millions paid to Essential Consulting WERE from the Russians, Saudis, AT&T and many others.

LOL...wow...do you REALLY think that nonsense is going to stand up to an examination, Ed? You're now claiming that Russians and Saudis didn't pay into the Clinton Foundation?

"That the Clinton Foundation has done some good work is beyond dispute. But that fact has exactly nothing to do with the profound ethical problems and corruption threats raised by the way its funds have been raised. Hillary Clinton was America’s chief diplomat, and tyrannical regimes such as the Saudis and Qataris jointly donated tens of millions of dollars to an organization run by her family and operated in its name, one whose works has been a prominent feature of her public persona. That extremely valuable opportunity to curry favor with the Clintons, and to secure access to them, continues as she runs for president.

The claim that this is all just about trying to help people in need should not even pass a laugh test, let alone rational scrutiny. To see how true that is, just look at who some of the biggest donors are. Although it did not give while she was secretary of state, the Saudi regime by itself has donated between $10 million and $25 million to the Clinton Foundation, with donations coming as late as 2014, as she prepared her presidential run. A group called “Friends of Saudi Arabia,” co-founded “by a Saudi Prince,” gave an additional amount between $1 million and $5 million. The Clinton Foundation says that between $1 million and $5 million was also donated by “the State of Qatar,” the United Arab Emirates, and the government of Brunei. “The State of Kuwait” has donated between $5 million and $10 million.

Theoretically, one could say that these regimes — among the most repressive and regressive in the world — are donating because they deeply believe in the charitable work of the Clinton Foundation and want to help those in need. Is there a single person on the planet who actually believes this? Is Clinton loyalty really so strong that people are going to argue with a straight face that the reason the Saudi, Qatari, Kuwaiti and Emirates regimes donated large amounts of money to the Clinton Foundation is because those regimes simply want to help the foundation achieve its magnanimous goals?"
Why Did the Saudi Regime and Other Gulf Tyrannies Donate Millions to the Clinton Foundation?

Gee your own post shows no Russian donations to the Clinton Foundation, so thank you for confirming the $145 million the lying scum Right said was donated to the Clinton Foundation by the Russians for the Uranium One deal was actually donated by a Canadian.

No the Russians cut out the middle man...they just paid Bill Clinton a cool $500,000 for giving one short speech! Gee....care to take a guess at how much Slick Willie is getting for speaking engagements now that his wife isn't the presumptive favorite to be the next President?

 

[Dana7360]

Right because gas prices have never gone up in the Summer before.
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It's not summer yet. It's spring.

Plus the price of gas has been going up for months.

When Obama left office gas was around 2 dollars a gallon here. Now, it's as high as 3.55 a gallon.

That didn't happen over night. And it's not summer.

Got any other excuses?

How do you feel that trump is making you pay more for gas so that you're making muslims in a nation that 15 of the 19 9-11 hijackers came from? Don't you just love giving your hard earned money to people who attacked our nation? People who threw telethons to raise money for those terrorists?

Doesn't it just make you feel warm and fuzzy?

 

[Dana7360]

Oh please you know Iran never supplied us with any oil.

For a conservative you sure don't understand capitalism and the law of supply and demand.

Less oil on the market, the higher the price is.

Take Iran's oil off the market and there's less oil which allows those nations that do sell their oil to charge much higher prices.

Wow, maybe a remedial pop up book on capitalism might help. Be sure to study the pictures. They will help you understand the written text.

 

[Dana7360]

The pulling out of the Iranian nuclear deal did nothing for the US but it sure helped petro-criminals like Putin and the Saudis. With Iranian oil off the market the Russians, Saudis and big oil are all able to make huge profits.

The American consumer is now stuck with the bill. That scam wasn't much different from Trump University scams.

You think Trump had any idea oil prices would be affected? Do you think he’s even aware of such a thing?

He claims to be the greatest business man of all time yet you don't expect him to know the basic capitalism law of supply and demand?

Wow.