Hillary: Ban weapons of war; Bye bye pistols, deer rifles, shotguns....muskets...

[bucs90]

Folks....apparently legendary Marine Corp sniper Carlos Hathcock DID NOT use an "Assault Weapon" or "Weapon of War" when he killed 93 Vietnamese enemies.

He used this....sold in every gun store in America

 

[NightFox]

there is no civilian lawful purpose for this type of military grade weapon...

SIG SAUER developed the MCX rifle for America’s special forces.


While the SIG SAUER MCX kinda looks like a standard AR-15, there’s one major difference: it’s gas piston operated. Buffer and gas tube? Gone. SIG’s replaced them with a short stroke gas piston and a compact recoil system contained completely within the upper receiver. To provide the force necessary to stop the bolt carrier’s rearward movement and return it to battery after each round, the MCX features a pair of recoil springs directly attached to the bolt carrier. Because the recoil springs are housed where an AR-15’s charging handle would normally sit the charging handle has been moved slightly higher than normal on the receiver.

When you run a suppressed rifle the added back pressure from the silencer creates additional force to the bolt carrier, which makes the rifle cycle faster. That’s not good; it can become uncontrollable and cause excessive wear on the operating bits. The MCX has an adjustable gas system that changes the amount of gas being sent to the piston, controlling the cycle rate. The system’s equipped with a gas regulator that the shooter can adjust on the fly.

[NB: There are currently two MCX version on the market. The first (sold through Cabela’s) uses a self-regulating gas system that vents super-heated gas directly into the air to control the pressure. The latest and now official version uses a closed system manually adjusted from “suppressed” to “unsuppressed.” The official word from SIG SAUER: the adjustable gas system was done on request, but they settled on the manual system to make the civilian MCX be as close as possible to the military MCX.]

Gun Review: SIG SAUER MCX - The Truth About Guns

Cool, thanks for the ad, Where do I buy one of those?

 

[Valerie]

The IACP has been a strong supporter of the assault weapons ban since 1992, and our membership approved a resolution calling for its reauthorization at our 2003 conference. The membership took this action because we, as law enforcement executives, understand that semiautomatic assault weapons pose a grave risk to our officers and the communities they are sworn to protect.

It is deeply troubling that Congress and the administration have so far failed to reauthorize this critically important legislation.

Assault weapons are routinely the weapons of choice for gang members and drug dealers. They are regularly encountered in drug busts and are all too often used against our officers. In fact, one in five law enforcement officers slain in the line of duty between January 1, 1998, and December 31, 2001, was killed with an assault weapon, according to "Officer Down," a report from the Violence Policy Center. The weapons in question—including the Colt AR-15, a semiautomatic version of the M-16 machine gun used by our armed forces, the Uzi, and the Tec-9 pistol, whose manufacturer's advertisements hailed its "fingerprint-resistant" finish—have been used in countless murders such as the Stockton schoolyard and Columbine High School shootings.

Opponents of the assault weapons ban often argue that the ban only outlawed certain weapons because of their "cosmetic features" and not because they are inherently more dangerous than other weapons. This is simply not true.

While most rifles are designed to be fired from the shoulder and depend upon the accuracy of a precisely aimed projectile, semiautomatic assault weapons are designed to maximize lethal effects through a rapid rate of fire. Assault weapons are designed to be spray-fired from the hip, and because of their design a shooter can maintain control of the weapon even while firing many rounds in rapid succession.

The cosmetic features opponents of the ban point to are actually military features such as silencers, flash suppressors, pistol grips, folding stocks, and bayonets that were designed specifically to increase the lethality of these weapons and make them more concealable. Many come equipped with large ammunition magazines allowing 50 or more bullets to be fired without reloading.

Weapons of this nature serve no legitimate sporting or hunting purposes and have no place in our communities. Unless Congress acts, the firearms of choice for terrorists, drug dealers, and gang members will be back on our streets—where, once again, our officers will be outgunned by criminals.

If Congress and the administration fail to reauthorize the assault weapons ban, it will be up to the law enforcement community to demand that it be reinstated. Over the last decade, we have made significant progress in our efforts to reduce violent crime rates. The ban on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines has been a crucial component of our national crime-fighting strategy.

We must not surrender the gains that we have made.

It is vital that we, as police chiefs, take a leading role in this effort. We know the tremendous harm that these weapons can inflict on our communities and we know what the proliferation of these weapons will mean to our officers. We need to be leaders, both in word and in deed, and we must make every effort to ensure that our elected officials understand that failure to reauthorize the assault weapons ban is a significant step back for law enforcement and public safety

Our communities and the officers we lead expect this of us; our duty demands it.

Police Chief Magazine - View Article

On the same day Democratic lawmakers introduced the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013, one of the primary authors of the original 1994 ban said that reinstating it is about making the streets safer for law enforcement, who are currently “outgunned.”

Biden: 'Outgunned' Police Support Assault Weapons Ban - The National Memo

 

[Lakhota]

Good sniper rifles, but I mostly use them for deer and elk hunting.

Is it a weapon of war? Hillary wants to ban Weapons of War. We have to identify them.

No, asshole, Winchester Model 70 bolt-action type rifles aren't classified as assault weapons. President Reagan didn't ban them - he only banned assault weapons.

THANK YOU....first one to actually answer. You said NO...it is not a Weapon of War....right?

No, it's not an assault weapon - which is what Hillary meant. Even spears are "Weapons of War"...

Why do you waste so much of your life on meaningless semantics?

That isn't what she said.


But...apples to apples.....

That rifle is FAMOUS as a Weapon of War....one of the most legendary weapons in Marine Corp history. The weapon used by Carlos Hathcock to kill 93 Vietnamese enemies before they even saw him coming. If THAT isn't an "Assault Weapon" then please....tell me what it is???

But...not a Weapon of War apparently.

Jesus H. Christ, there were even snipers in the Civil War.

Whitworth Rifle

 

[bucs90]

Is it a weapon of war? Hillary wants to ban Weapons of War. We have to identify them.

No, asshole, Winchester Model 70 bolt-action type rifles aren't classified as assault weapons. President Reagan didn't ban them - he only banned assault weapons.

THANK YOU....first one to actually answer. You said NO...it is not a Weapon of War....right?

No, it's not an assault weapon - which is what Hillary meant. Even spears are "Weapons of War"...

Why do you waste so much of your life on meaningless semantics?

That isn't what she said.


But...apples to apples.....

That rifle is FAMOUS as a Weapon of War....one of the most legendary weapons in Marine Corp history. The weapon used by Carlos Hathcock to kill 93 Vietnamese enemies before they even saw him coming. If THAT isn't an "Assault Weapon" then please....tell me what it is???

But...not a Weapon of War apparently.

Jesus H. Christ, there were even snipers in the Civil War.

Whitworth Rifle

Oh yes. And in the Revolutionary War.

In fact...snipers are one of the most feared and effective weapons in a ground war.

So....are deer rifles "Weapons of War" as Hillary said? HER WORDS not mine. She mentioned no specific model of weapon.

 

[Lakhota]

No, asshole, Winchester Model 70 bolt-action type rifles aren't classified as assault weapons. President Reagan didn't ban them - he only banned assault weapons.

THANK YOU....first one to actually answer. You said NO...it is not a Weapon of War....right?

No, it's not an assault weapon - which is what Hillary meant. Even spears are "Weapons of War"...

Why do you waste so much of your life on meaningless semantics?

That isn't what she said.


But...apples to apples.....

That rifle is FAMOUS as a Weapon of War....one of the most legendary weapons in Marine Corp history. The weapon used by Carlos Hathcock to kill 93 Vietnamese enemies before they even saw him coming. If THAT isn't an "Assault Weapon" then please....tell me what it is???

But...not a Weapon of War apparently.

Jesus H. Christ, there were even snipers in the Civil War.

Whitworth Rifle

Oh yes. And in the Revolutionary War.

In fact...snipers are one of the most feared and effective weapons in a ground war.

So....are deer rifles "Weapons of War" as Hillary said? HER WORDS not mine. She mentioned no specific model of weapon.

Yes, Hillary wants to ban all potential weapons - including kitchen utensils. Is your childish little mind finally satisfied? Are you happy now...?

 

[Valerie]

they'll figure it out. which weapons to permit to whom and for what lawful purposes. some weapons should be permitted only to some citizens for some purposes but not all weapons for all purposes to all people...

The wide-ranging discussion covered not just the gun safety proposals the administration has put forward, but mental health measures and countering the gun lobby. A question about the effectiveness of another assault weapons ban (Congress and the Bush administration allowed the first law to expire in 2004) offered Biden a chance to explain why he believes reinstating the ban is important.


“One of the reasons the assault weapons ban makes sense, even though it accounts for a small percentage of gun deaths, is because police organizations overwhelmingly support it because they are outgunned on the street by the bad guys and the proliferation of these weapons,” said Biden.


He said that the number of deadly assaults on police officers has risen since the ban was lifted, also explaining that an assault weapons ban “is not the answer to all the problems, but it is a rational limitation on what types of weapons can be owned,” going back to a previous point he made about the 2008 Supreme Court decision that upheld the individual right to bear arms, but also ruled that the “Constitution put reasonable limitations on who can own and what kind of arms can be owned.”

Biden: 'Outgunned' Police Support Assault Weapons Ban - The National Memo

 

[bucs90]

THANK YOU....first one to actually answer. You said NO...it is not a Weapon of War....right?

No, it's not an assault weapon - which is what Hillary meant. Even spears are "Weapons of War"...

Why do you waste so much of your life on meaningless semantics?

That isn't what she said.


But...apples to apples.....

That rifle is FAMOUS as a Weapon of War....one of the most legendary weapons in Marine Corp history. The weapon used by Carlos Hathcock to kill 93 Vietnamese enemies before they even saw him coming. If THAT isn't an "Assault Weapon" then please....tell me what it is???

But...not a Weapon of War apparently.

Jesus H. Christ, there were even snipers in the Civil War.

Whitworth Rifle

Oh yes. And in the Revolutionary War.

In fact...snipers are one of the most feared and effective weapons in a ground war.

So....are deer rifles "Weapons of War" as Hillary said? HER WORDS not mine. She mentioned no specific model of weapon.

Yes, Hillary wants to ban all potential weapons - including kitchen utensils. Is your childish little mind finally satisfied? Are you happy now...?

No need to be childish.

It's her words. It's a VERY big development in the election.

She said it. She wants a ban on "Weapons of War" from being in citizens hands.

What are those?

Because snipers are some of the deadliest and most feared things you'll find in a war zone. And they use bolt action single shot deer rifles.

 

[OnePercenter]

Yall saw the speech. Hillary says "Weapons of war have no place on our streets."

Nevermind the 2nd Amendment guarantee arms...which were weapons of war in 1776 (muskets and pistols).

Pistols...used in all wars.
Deer rifles....the founding father of battlefield sniper rifles...USMC and Army snipers to this day use bolt action single shot sniper rifles that are identical to grandpa's deer rifle.
Shotguns....also used in wars.

AR-15s.....actually not used much in war. M16 and M4 yes. AR-10 yes.


So libs....when she wants to ban "Weapons of War"....which ones? And how far back?

Because in 1776 there were only 2 firearms. Pistols and Musket rifles. All military infantry carried them. And the Founders granted citizens the right to them.

Yall saw the speech. Hillary says "Weapons of war have no place on our streets."

Nevermind the 2nd Amendment guarantee arms...which were weapons of war in 1776 (muskets and pistols).

Pistols...used in all wars.
Deer rifles....the founding father of battlefield sniper rifles...USMC and Army snipers to this day use bolt action single shot sniper rifles that are identical to grandpa's deer rifle.
Shotguns....also used in wars.

AR-15s.....actually not used much in war. M16 and M4 yes. AR-10 yes.


So libs....when she wants to ban "Weapons of War"....which ones? And how far back?

Because in 1776 there were only 2 firearms. Pistols and Musket rifles. All military infantry carried them. And the Founders granted citizens the right to them.

We need to make it very difficult/impossible for someone to shoot/kill 103 people in a very short time. By not doing so cements our standing as the most gun violent first world country in the world.

 

[OnePercenter]

they'll figure it out. which weapons to permit to whom and for what lawful purposes. some weapons should be permitted only to some citizens for some purposes but not all weapons for all purposes to all people...

they'll figure it out. which weapons to permit to whom and for what lawful purposes. some weapons should be permitted only to some citizens for some purposes but not all weapons for all purposes to all people...

But doing that will spit in the face of the NRA through their marketing concern of promoting gun manufacturers, and making those at the top of the NRA multi-millionaires.

 

[NightFox]

By not doing so cements our standing as the most gun violent first world country in the world.

Fuckin' A, we're finally number #1 at something again.....

"We are the champions, my friends,
And we'll keep on fighting 'til the end.
We are the champions.
We are the champions.
No time for losers
'Cause we are the champions of the world." -- Queen, We Are The Champions

 

[OnePercenter]

I still think that Americas fascination with guns has to do with penis size.

We're smaller than Japan. I guess that's why we sell a large number of Corvettes and big trucks. Just saying.

 

[Rustic]

there is no civilian lawful purpose for this type of military grade weapon...

SIG SAUER developed the MCX rifle for America’s special forces.


While the SIG SAUER MCX kinda looks like a standard AR-15, there’s one major difference: it’s gas piston operated. Buffer and gas tube? Gone. SIG’s replaced them with a short stroke gas piston and a compact recoil system contained completely within the upper receiver. To provide the force necessary to stop the bolt carrier’s rearward movement and return it to battery after each round, the MCX features a pair of recoil springs directly attached to the bolt carrier. Because the recoil springs are housed where an AR-15’s charging handle would normally sit the charging handle has been moved slightly higher than normal on the receiver.

When you run a suppressed rifle the added back pressure from the silencer creates additional force to the bolt carrier, which makes the rifle cycle faster. That’s not good; it can become uncontrollable and cause excessive wear on the operating bits. The MCX has an adjustable gas system that changes the amount of gas being sent to the piston, controlling the cycle rate. The system’s equipped with a gas regulator that the shooter can adjust on the fly.

[NB: There are currently two MCX version on the market. The first (sold through Cabela’s) uses a self-regulating gas system that vents super-heated gas directly into the air to control the pressure. The latest and now official version uses a closed system manually adjusted from “suppressed” to “unsuppressed.” The official word from SIG SAUER: the adjustable gas system was done on request, but they settled on the manual system to make the civilian MCX be as close as possible to the military MCX.]

Gun Review: SIG SAUER MCX - The Truth About Guns

There is no "need" for many things... Fuckface

 

[Rustic]

I still think that Americas fascination with guns has to do with penis size.

We're smaller than Japan. I guess that's why we sell a large number of Corvettes and big trucks. Just saying.

Sounds like you have penis on the brain, like usual. Progressives love perversion. Shit for brains

 

[Rustic]

"The shootings are sparking debate about whether to revive and update a lapsed assault weapons ban. The 1994 Federal Assault Weapons Ban, which expired in 2004, applied to 118 models and variations. An assault weapon is different from an assault rifle, which by definition is a military weapon that can either fire continuously or in short bursts with a single pull of the trigger."

Weapons gunman used in Orlando shooting are high-capacity, common

Get your fucking head out of your fucking dumbass fuck face

 

[CrusaderFrank]

No need for progressives to live in America either. If you don't like it you're free to move to any government controlled, unarmed nation

 

[Norman]

Hillary Clinton, a other democrat who is at war against statistics and science.

Doesn't matter if it's gun control works, it will work to disarm and make Americans defenseless against the hoards of muslim rapists/terrorists that she plans to import. That's her real interest group.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

there is no civilian lawful purpose for this type of military grade weapon...

SIG SAUER developed the MCX rifle for America’s special forces.


While the SIG SAUER MCX kinda looks like a standard AR-15, there’s one major difference: it’s gas piston operated. Buffer and gas tube? Gone. SIG’s replaced them with a short stroke gas piston and a compact recoil system contained completely within the upper receiver. To provide the force necessary to stop the bolt carrier’s rearward movement and return it to battery after each round, the MCX features a pair of recoil springs directly attached to the bolt carrier. Because the recoil springs are housed where an AR-15’s charging handle would normally sit the charging handle has been moved slightly higher than normal on the receiver.

When you run a suppressed rifle the added back pressure from the silencer creates additional force to the bolt carrier, which makes the rifle cycle faster. That’s not good; it can become uncontrollable and cause excessive wear on the operating bits. The MCX has an adjustable gas system that changes the amount of gas being sent to the piston, controlling the cycle rate. The system’s equipped with a gas regulator that the shooter can adjust on the fly.

[NB: There are currently two MCX version on the market. The first (sold through Cabela’s) uses a self-regulating gas system that vents super-heated gas directly into the air to control the pressure. The latest and now official version uses a closed system manually adjusted from “suppressed” to “unsuppressed.” The official word from SIG SAUER: the adjustable gas system was done on request, but they settled on the manual system to make the civilian MCX be as close as possible to the military MCX.]

Gun Review: SIG SAUER MCX - The Truth About Guns

Why not? I don't see a problem.

It's not as if it can fire itself.

It's none of your business what firearms I own or use.

But my oh my, it looks so scary!

 

[there4eyeM]

'Sniping' is not 'assault'.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

Yall saw the speech. Hillary says "Weapons of war have no place on our streets."

Nevermind the 2nd Amendment guarantee arms...which were weapons of war in 1776 (muskets and pistols).

Pistols...used in all wars.
Deer rifles....the founding father of battlefield sniper rifles...USMC and Army snipers to this day use bolt action single shot sniper rifles that are identical to grandpa's deer rifle.
Shotguns....also used in wars.

AR-15s.....actually not used much in war. M16 and M4 yes. AR-10 yes.


So libs....when she wants to ban "Weapons of War"....which ones? And how far back?

Because in 1776 there were only 2 firearms. Pistols and Musket rifles. All military infantry carried them. And the Founders granted citizens the right to them.

Yall saw the speech. Hillary says "Weapons of war have no place on our streets."

Nevermind the 2nd Amendment guarantee arms...which were weapons of war in 1776 (muskets and pistols).

Pistols...used in all wars.
Deer rifles....the founding father of battlefield sniper rifles...USMC and Army snipers to this day use bolt action single shot sniper rifles that are identical to grandpa's deer rifle.
Shotguns....also used in wars.

AR-15s.....actually not used much in war. M16 and M4 yes. AR-10 yes.


So libs....when she wants to ban "Weapons of War"....which ones? And how far back?

Because in 1776 there were only 2 firearms. Pistols and Musket rifles. All military infantry carried them. And the Founders granted citizens the right to them.

We need to make it very difficult/impossible for someone to shoot/kill 103 people in a very short time. By not doing so cements our standing as the most gun violent first world country in the world.

Most violent first world country in the world.

The firearm is the chosen weapon.

Before disarming law abiding citizens I say we address the violent "individuals."