Hillary Clinton Won FL, NC, PENN, and WI, according to Exit Polls

[Neotrotsky]

"Democracy is the most vile form of government. ... democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property: and have in general been as short in their lives as the have been violent in their deaths."

— James Madison (1751-1836) Father of the Constitution, 4th President of the U. S.

 

[Neotrotsky]

“We are a Republic. Real Liberty is never found in despotism or in the extremes of Democracy.”

— Alexander Hamilton (1755-1804) Lawyer, Secretary of the Treasury & Secretary of State

 

[Neotrotsky]

Section 4 - Republican form of government guaranteed. Each State to be protected.

The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union, a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened), against domestic violence.

— United States Constitution Article 4, Section 4

 

[Neotrotsky]

What it is really about

Queen Hillary hiding behind the skirt of Jill

 

[Dubya Da Last Repug Prez]

“We are a Republic. Real Liberty is never found in despotism or in the extremes of Democracy.”

— Alexander Hamilton (1755-1804) Lawyer, Secretary of the Treasury & Secretary of State

This has nothing to do with our voting system. What Hamilton is referring to is the legal definition of republic vs democracy.

In a republic, a written constitution protects the rights of the minority. In a democracy, a constitution is not necessary. The majority has total say over the minority in a democracy, no rules apply.

Nowhere in Hamilton's writings did he ever state that the vote totals of individual states mean more than the total national vote. And nowhere is this in the Constitution, either.

 

[Pop23]

Hillary Clinton won Florida, N. Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, according to the exit polls. The story link and polling data are provided below.

I have a very difficult time believing the exit polls were "wrong" by such large amounts in all 4 of these states. Historically, exit polls are extremely reliable, which is why they are used by the United Nations to monitor elections in Third World countries. If the U.S. were a Third World country, the United Nations would be crying foul regarding this election.

I think the more logical explanation for why the exit polls were "wrong" by such a large amount is that Repug election officials stole this election for Trump in these 4 states. It happened to Gore in Florida in 2000 and it also happened to Kerry in Ohio in 2004.

The Repug Party is fascist. The Repug Party is evil. The Repug Party does not believe in democracy. Democracy in this country is in mortal danger.

Hopefully, Jill Stein's recounts discover fraud in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, but it could be extremely difficult to prove.

2016 Exit Polls vs. Actual Results: Here’s What May Have Happened

Florida:

Exit Polls: Clinton 47.7%, Trump 46.4% (Clinton by 1.3%)
Actual Results: Clinton 47.8%, Trump 49.0% (Trump by 1.2%)

Trump gain: 2.5%



North Carolina:

Exit Polls: Clinton 48.6%, Trump 46.5% (Clinton by 2.1%)
Actual Results: Clinton 46.1%, Trump 49.9%) (Trump by 3.8%)

Trump gain: 5.9%



Pennsylvania:

Exit Polls: Clinton 50.5%, Trump 46.1% (Clinton by 4.4%)
Actual Results: Clinton 47.6%, Trump 48.8% (Trump by 1.2%)

Trump gain: 5.6%



Wisconsin:

Exit Polls: Clinton 48.2%, Trump 44.3% (Clinton by 3.9%)
Actual Results: Clinton 47.6%, Trump 48.8% (Trump by 1.2%)

Trump gain: 5.1%

Then why did the Hillary camp already know it lost as soon as east coast polls closed? Hell, they knew the night before when they cancelled for big fireworks show.

I don't know what planet you live on. The electoral college result was a shock to virtually everyone, including the Clinton campaign. That's what happens when elections are stolen. There is no way in hell that Trump legitimately "won" PA, MI, and WI when all 3 states have gone for Democratic presidential candidates for the past 20+ years.

Clinton won the popular vote by 2% and 2.5 million votes, which was fairly close to expectations. The electoral college voters should vote for her.

Shock to who?

Clinton needed a 3.9% lead on a national basis to have a 50/50 shot at winning the electoral college. She was well below that.

You look at the polls as though the national popular vote has absolute value in a system that discounts it.

Look, this system is more like football and less like baseball. Clinton scored more times then trump, but Trumps 3 touchdowns won the game over Clintons 5 field goals.

Blah, blah, blah...your stupid sports analogies are meaningless. The Founding Fathers made no distinction between a republic and a democracy. They never intended for the total votes in individual states to matter more than the total national vote, which is the true will of the American people. The Founding Fathers wanted the electoral college voters to vote for the most qualified person that earned the most votes, regardless of the state vote totals. In this election, that is Clinton.

Everything you're saying is total nonsense and there is no mention of it anywhere in the Constitution.

You're kinda dense are you not? You say things that are exact opposites as other aspects of your own arguments.

I am sorry you never grew up

There's still time.

 

[Papageorgio]

Hillary Clinton won Florida, N. Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, according to the exit polls. The story link and polling data are provided below.

I have a very difficult time believing the exit polls were "wrong" by such large amounts in all 4 of these states. Historically, exit polls are extremely reliable, which is why they are used by the United Nations to monitor elections in Third World countries. If the U.S. were a Third World country, the United Nations would be crying foul regarding this election.

I think the more logical explanation for why the exit polls were "wrong" by such a large amount is that Repug election officials stole this election for Trump in these 4 states. It happened to Gore in Florida in 2000 and it also happened to Kerry in Ohio in 2004.

The Repug Party is fascist. The Repug Party is evil. The Repug Party does not believe in democracy. Democracy in this country is in mortal danger.

Hopefully, Jill Stein's recounts discover fraud in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, but it could be extremely difficult to prove.

2016 Exit Polls vs. Actual Results: Here’s What May Have Happened

Florida:

Exit Polls: Clinton 47.7%, Trump 46.4% (Clinton by 1.3%)
Actual Results: Clinton 47.8%, Trump 49.0% (Trump by 1.2%)

Trump gain: 2.5%



North Carolina:

Exit Polls: Clinton 48.6%, Trump 46.5% (Clinton by 2.1%)
Actual Results: Clinton 46.1%, Trump 49.9%) (Trump by 3.8%)

Trump gain: 5.9%



Pennsylvania:

Exit Polls: Clinton 50.5%, Trump 46.1% (Clinton by 4.4%)
Actual Results: Clinton 47.6%, Trump 48.8% (Trump by 1.2%)

Trump gain: 5.6%



Wisconsin:

Exit Polls: Clinton 48.2%, Trump 44.3% (Clinton by 3.9%)
Actual Results: Clinton 47.6%, Trump 48.8% (Trump by 1.2%)

Trump gain: 5.1%

Then why did the Hillary camp already know it lost as soon as east coast polls closed? Hell, they knew the night before when they cancelled for big fireworks show.

I don't know what planet you live on. The electoral college result was a shock to virtually everyone, including the Clinton campaign. That's what happens when elections are stolen. There is no way in hell that Trump legitimately "won" PA, MI, and WI when all 3 states have gone for Democratic presidential candidates for the past 20+ years.

Clinton won the popular vote by 2% and 2.5 million votes, which was fairly close to expectations. The electoral college voters should vote for her.

Shock to who?

Clinton needed a 3.9% lead on a national basis to have a 50/50 shot at winning the electoral college. She was well below that.

You look at the polls as though the national popular vote has absolute value in a system that discounts it.

Look, this system is more like football and less like baseball. Clinton scored more times then trump, but Trumps 3 touchdowns won the game over Clintons 5 field goals.

Blah, blah, blah...your stupid sports analogies are meaningless. The Founding Fathers made no distinction between a republic and a democracy. They never intended for the total votes in individual states to matter more than the total national vote, which is the true will of the American people. The Founding Fathers wanted the electoral college voters to vote for the most qualified person that earned the most votes, regardless of the state vote totals. In this election, that is Clinton.

Everything you're saying is total nonsense and there is no mention of it anywhere in the Constitution.

Learn history instead of making crap up. You liberal babies are way to funny to be taken seriously.

 

[Dubya Da Last Repug Prez]

Hillary Clinton won Florida, N. Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, according to the exit polls. The story link and polling data are provided below.

I have a very difficult time believing the exit polls were "wrong" by such large amounts in all 4 of these states. Historically, exit polls are extremely reliable, which is why they are used by the United Nations to monitor elections in Third World countries. If the U.S. were a Third World country, the United Nations would be crying foul regarding this election.

I think the more logical explanation for why the exit polls were "wrong" by such a large amount is that Repug election officials stole this election for Trump in these 4 states. It happened to Gore in Florida in 2000 and it also happened to Kerry in Ohio in 2004.

The Repug Party is fascist. The Repug Party is evil. The Repug Party does not believe in democracy. Democracy in this country is in mortal danger.

Hopefully, Jill Stein's recounts discover fraud in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, but it could be extremely difficult to prove.

2016 Exit Polls vs. Actual Results: Here’s What May Have Happened

Florida:

Exit Polls: Clinton 47.7%, Trump 46.4% (Clinton by 1.3%)
Actual Results: Clinton 47.8%, Trump 49.0% (Trump by 1.2%)

Trump gain: 2.5%



North Carolina:

Exit Polls: Clinton 48.6%, Trump 46.5% (Clinton by 2.1%)
Actual Results: Clinton 46.1%, Trump 49.9%) (Trump by 3.8%)

Trump gain: 5.9%



Pennsylvania:

Exit Polls: Clinton 50.5%, Trump 46.1% (Clinton by 4.4%)
Actual Results: Clinton 47.6%, Trump 48.8% (Trump by 1.2%)

Trump gain: 5.6%



Wisconsin:

Exit Polls: Clinton 48.2%, Trump 44.3% (Clinton by 3.9%)
Actual Results: Clinton 47.6%, Trump 48.8% (Trump by 1.2%)

Trump gain: 5.1%

Then why did the Hillary camp already know it lost as soon as east coast polls closed? Hell, they knew the night before when they cancelled for big fireworks show.

I don't know what planet you live on. The electoral college result was a shock to virtually everyone, including the Clinton campaign. That's what happens when elections are stolen. There is no way in hell that Trump legitimately "won" PA, MI, and WI when all 3 states have gone for Democratic presidential candidates for the past 20+ years.

Clinton won the popular vote by 2% and 2.5 million votes, which was fairly close to expectations. The electoral college voters should vote for her.

Shock to who?

Clinton needed a 3.9% lead on a national basis to have a 50/50 shot at winning the electoral college. She was well below that.

You look at the polls as though the national popular vote has absolute value in a system that discounts it.

Look, this system is more like football and less like baseball. Clinton scored more times then trump, but Trumps 3 touchdowns won the game over Clintons 5 field goals.

Blah, blah, blah...your stupid sports analogies are meaningless. The Founding Fathers made no distinction between a republic and a democracy. They never intended for the total votes in individual states to matter more than the total national vote, which is the true will of the American people. The Founding Fathers wanted the electoral college voters to vote for the most qualified person that earned the most votes, regardless of the state vote totals. In this election, that is Clinton.

Everything you're saying is total nonsense and there is no mention of it anywhere in the Constitution.

Learn history instead of making crap up. You liberal babies are way to funny to be taken seriously.

Please enlighten me, fucktard. There is nothing in the Constitution stating that the state vote totals mean more than the national vote total.

You're just a fucking know-nothing Repug troll.

 

[Papageorgio]

Then why did the Hillary camp already know it lost as soon as east coast polls closed? Hell, they knew the night before when they cancelled for big fireworks show.

I don't know what planet you live on. The electoral college result was a shock to virtually everyone, including the Clinton campaign. That's what happens when elections are stolen. There is no way in hell that Trump legitimately "won" PA, MI, and WI when all 3 states have gone for Democratic presidential candidates for the past 20+ years.

Clinton won the popular vote by 2% and 2.5 million votes, which was fairly close to expectations. The electoral college voters should vote for her.

Shock to who?

Clinton needed a 3.9% lead on a national basis to have a 50/50 shot at winning the electoral college. She was well below that.

You look at the polls as though the national popular vote has absolute value in a system that discounts it.

Look, this system is more like football and less like baseball. Clinton scored more times then trump, but Trumps 3 touchdowns won the game over Clintons 5 field goals.

Blah, blah, blah...your stupid sports analogies are meaningless. The Founding Fathers made no distinction between a republic and a democracy. They never intended for the total votes in individual states to matter more than the total national vote, which is the true will of the American people. The Founding Fathers wanted the electoral college voters to vote for the most qualified person that earned the most votes, regardless of the state vote totals. In this election, that is Clinton.

Everything you're saying is total nonsense and there is no mention of it anywhere in the Constitution.

Learn history instead of making crap up. You liberal babies are way to funny to be taken seriously.

Please enlighten me, fucktard. There is nothing in the Constitution stating that the state vote totals mean more than the national vote total.

You're just a fucking know-nothing Repug troll.

There is nothing in the Constitution that says that the country would elect a president from the popular vote. That is why they set out the electoral college, because we are a republic, not a democracy.

 

[Dubya Da Last Repug Prez]

I don't know what planet you live on. The electoral college result was a shock to virtually everyone, including the Clinton campaign. That's what happens when elections are stolen. There is no way in hell that Trump legitimately "won" PA, MI, and WI when all 3 states have gone for Democratic presidential candidates for the past 20+ years.

Clinton won the popular vote by 2% and 2.5 million votes, which was fairly close to expectations. The electoral college voters should vote for her.

Shock to who?

Clinton needed a 3.9% lead on a national basis to have a 50/50 shot at winning the electoral college. She was well below that.

You look at the polls as though the national popular vote has absolute value in a system that discounts it.

Look, this system is more like football and less like baseball. Clinton scored more times then trump, but Trumps 3 touchdowns won the game over Clintons 5 field goals.

Blah, blah, blah...your stupid sports analogies are meaningless. The Founding Fathers made no distinction between a republic and a democracy. They never intended for the total votes in individual states to matter more than the total national vote, which is the true will of the American people. The Founding Fathers wanted the electoral college voters to vote for the most qualified person that earned the most votes, regardless of the state vote totals. In this election, that is Clinton.

Everything you're saying is total nonsense and there is no mention of it anywhere in the Constitution.

Learn history instead of making crap up. You liberal babies are way to funny to be taken seriously.

Please enlighten me, fucktard. There is nothing in the Constitution stating that the state vote totals mean more than the national vote total.

You're just a fucking know-nothing Repug troll.

There is nothing in the Constitution that says that the country would elect a president from the popular vote. That is why they set out the electoral college, because we are a republic, not a democracy.

And the electoral college voters can vote any way they please. They are not required to vote according to the state vote totals for the state they represent. Whatever state laws that exist regarding the electoral college are meaningless and don't represent the intent of the Constitution.

 

[Pop23]

Shock to who?

Clinton needed a 3.9% lead on a national basis to have a 50/50 shot at winning the electoral college. She was well below that.

You look at the polls as though the national popular vote has absolute value in a system that discounts it.

Look, this system is more like football and less like baseball. Clinton scored more times then trump, but Trumps 3 touchdowns won the game over Clintons 5 field goals.

Blah, blah, blah...your stupid sports analogies are meaningless. The Founding Fathers made no distinction between a republic and a democracy. They never intended for the total votes in individual states to matter more than the total national vote, which is the true will of the American people. The Founding Fathers wanted the electoral college voters to vote for the most qualified person that earned the most votes, regardless of the state vote totals. In this election, that is Clinton.

Everything you're saying is total nonsense and there is no mention of it anywhere in the Constitution.

Learn history instead of making crap up. You liberal babies are way to funny to be taken seriously.

Please enlighten me, fucktard. There is nothing in the Constitution stating that the state vote totals mean more than the national vote total.

You're just a fucking know-nothing Repug troll.

There is nothing in the Constitution that says that the country would elect a president from the popular vote. That is why they set out the electoral college, because we are a republic, not a democracy.

And the electoral college voters can vote any way they please. They are not required to vote according to the state vote totals for the state they represent. Whatever state laws that exist regarding the electoral college are meaningless and don't represent the intent of the Constitution.

Dream on. Most are party faithful, they ain't voting Hillary and if one indicates they will vote against the State, they will simply be replaced.

 

[Papageorgio]

Shock to who?

Clinton needed a 3.9% lead on a national basis to have a 50/50 shot at winning the electoral college. She was well below that.

You look at the polls as though the national popular vote has absolute value in a system that discounts it.

Look, this system is more like football and less like baseball. Clinton scored more times then trump, but Trumps 3 touchdowns won the game over Clintons 5 field goals.

Blah, blah, blah...your stupid sports analogies are meaningless. The Founding Fathers made no distinction between a republic and a democracy. They never intended for the total votes in individual states to matter more than the total national vote, which is the true will of the American people. The Founding Fathers wanted the electoral college voters to vote for the most qualified person that earned the most votes, regardless of the state vote totals. In this election, that is Clinton.

Everything you're saying is total nonsense and there is no mention of it anywhere in the Constitution.

Learn history instead of making crap up. You liberal babies are way to funny to be taken seriously.

Please enlighten me, fucktard. There is nothing in the Constitution stating that the state vote totals mean more than the national vote total.

You're just a fucking know-nothing Repug troll.

There is nothing in the Constitution that says that the country would elect a president from the popular vote. That is why they set out the electoral college, because we are a republic, not a democracy.

And the electoral college voters can vote any way they please. They are not required to vote according to the state vote totals for the state they represent. Whatever state laws that exist regarding the electoral college are meaningless and don't represent the intent of the Constitution.

That has already been established. However, the college is elected by the party of the winning candidate, so the odds of faithless voters is pretty small. So the college elects who they want, so if they vote Trump or Clinton or whoever, they will have done their job.

 

[theHawk]

Hillary Clinton won Florida, N. Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, according to the exit polls. The story link and polling data are provided below.

I have a very difficult time believing the exit polls were "wrong" by such large amounts in all 4 of these states. Historically, exit polls are extremely reliable, which is why they are used by the United Nations to monitor elections in Third World countries. If the U.S. were a Third World country, the United Nations would be crying foul regarding this election.

I think the more logical explanation for why the exit polls were "wrong" by such a large amount is that Repug election officials stole this election for Trump in these 4 states. It happened to Gore in Florida in 2000 and it also happened to Kerry in Ohio in 2004.

The Repug Party is fascist. The Repug Party is evil. The Repug Party does not believe in democracy. Democracy in this country is in mortal danger.

Hopefully, Jill Stein's recounts discover fraud in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, but it could be extremely difficult to prove.

2016 Exit Polls vs. Actual Results: Here’s What May Have Happened

Florida:

Exit Polls: Clinton 47.7%, Trump 46.4% (Clinton by 1.3%)
Actual Results: Clinton 47.8%, Trump 49.0% (Trump by 1.2%)

Trump gain: 2.5%



North Carolina:

Exit Polls: Clinton 48.6%, Trump 46.5% (Clinton by 2.1%)
Actual Results: Clinton 46.1%, Trump 49.9%) (Trump by 3.8%)

Trump gain: 5.9%



Pennsylvania:

Exit Polls: Clinton 50.5%, Trump 46.1% (Clinton by 4.4%)
Actual Results: Clinton 47.6%, Trump 48.8% (Trump by 1.2%)

Trump gain: 5.6%



Wisconsin:

Exit Polls: Clinton 48.2%, Trump 44.3% (Clinton by 3.9%)
Actual Results: Clinton 47.6%, Trump 48.8% (Trump by 1.2%)

Trump gain: 5.1%

Then why did the Hillary camp already know it lost as soon as east coast polls closed? Hell, they knew the night before when they cancelled for big fireworks show.

I don't know what planet you live on. The electoral college result was a shock to virtually everyone, including the Clinton campaign. That's what happens when elections are stolen. There is no way in hell that Trump legitimately "won" PA, MI, and WI when all 3 states have gone for Democratic presidential candidates for the past 20+ years.

Clinton won the popular vote by 2% and 2.5 million votes, which was fairly close to expectations. The electoral college voters should vote for her.

The 2.5 million popular vote is entirely from NY and CA. Trump won the rest. The Dem party has become the party of BLM, cross-dressing queers, and pro-Islamists. You've successfully ran white people away from your looney toons circus of a party. The Dems have become so racist and anti-white, blacks weren't motivated to out and vote for old cankles. Too bad for you.

 

[theHawk]

Then why did the Hillary camp already know it lost as soon as east coast polls closed? Hell, they knew the night before when they cancelled for big fireworks show.

I don't know what planet you live on. The electoral college result was a shock to virtually everyone, including the Clinton campaign. That's what happens when elections are stolen. There is no way in hell that Trump legitimately "won" PA, MI, and WI when all 3 states have gone for Democratic presidential candidates for the past 20+ years.

Clinton won the popular vote by 2% and 2.5 million votes, which was fairly close to expectations. The electoral college voters should vote for her.

Shock to who?

Clinton needed a 3.9% lead on a national basis to have a 50/50 shot at winning the electoral college. She was well below that.

You look at the polls as though the national popular vote has absolute value in a system that discounts it.

Look, this system is more like football and less like baseball. Clinton scored more times then trump, but Trumps 3 touchdowns won the game over Clintons 5 field goals.

Blah, blah, blah...your stupid sports analogies are meaningless. The Founding Fathers made no distinction between a republic and a democracy. They never intended for the total votes in individual states to matter more than the total national vote, which is the true will of the American people. The Founding Fathers wanted the electoral college voters to vote for the most qualified person that earned the most votes, regardless of the state vote totals. In this election, that is Clinton.

Everything you're saying is total nonsense and there is no mention of it anywhere in the Constitution.

Learn history instead of making crap up. You liberal babies are way to funny to be taken seriously.

Please enlighten me, fucktard. There is nothing in the Constitution stating that the state vote totals mean more than the national vote total.

You're just a fucking know-nothing Repug troll.

There is nothing in the constitution that states anything about popular vote totals. All it does is spell out that each state will choose electors for the electiorial college. There is certainly nothing about a national vote total.

Carry on, dipshit.

 

[Manonthestreet]

MWK being recounted......hilly has lost 17000 votes Trump 1700.....

 

[kaz]

The "denial" that's taking place is by people like you, DubyaDa! You can't bring yourself to admit that the Democrats ran a really lousy candidate with a long history of scandals and no new solutions to the countries' problems. This liberal talking point that blacks are too helpless to figure out how to vote unless you get rid of all obstacles (like having a valid ID or even registering!) is inherently racist in itself yet you trot it out anytime an election doesn't go your way. Black voters typically don't turn out unless they feel invested in a candidate...such as they were for Barack Obama. For you to sit here and claim that it was the GOP that kept them from registering and voting in this election might make you feel better about Clinton's loss but you're only deluding yourself if you think that's reality.

Your party SHOULD be bringing in new leadership to replace the dinosaurs that you have running it now but they just voted Pelosi another stint as Democratic leader in the House! You want to know why so much of the country sees nothing new in the Democrats approach? It's because there IS nothing new in their approach!

See post #424, fucktard.

Facts do matter. Your meaningless Repug opinions do not.

You ran a great candidate, you ran a great campaign, it was stolen from you. You keep telling everyone that and I am sure in 2020 you will win.

Clinton won by 2% and 2.5 million votes and counting, fucktard. She did everything she had to do to win.

You're a joke and Trump and the Repug Party are a fucking joke. Most Americans and the whole world knows it.

No one ran for the popular vote. You are stupid as shit. Democrats just lead you by the nose

Piss off, little Repug lightweight fucktard. My excrement could easily handle your unremarkable ass in a debate.

You simply know nothing and you're boring.

You always know the people who suck at debates are the ones who need to crow about your prowess, you know that no one would know if you didn't tell them ...

 

[Papageorgio]

See post #424, fucktard.

Facts do matter. Your meaningless Repug opinions do not.

You ran a great candidate, you ran a great campaign, it was stolen from you. You keep telling everyone that and I am sure in 2020 you will win.

Clinton won by 2% and 2.5 million votes and counting, fucktard. She did everything she had to do to win.

You're a joke and Trump and the Repug Party are a fucking joke. Most Americans and the whole world knows it.

No one ran for the popular vote. You are stupid as shit. Democrats just lead you by the nose

Piss off, little Repug lightweight fucktard. My excrement could easily handle your unremarkable ass in a debate.

You simply know nothing and you're boring.

You always know the people who suck at debates are the ones who need to crow about your prowess, you know that no one would know if you didn't tell them ...

He is the silliest liberal poster. Not even other libs will defend him because they also realize he is nuts.

 

[Dot Com]

You ran a great candidate, you ran a great campaign, it was stolen from you. You keep telling everyone that and I am sure in 2020 you will win.

Clinton won by 2% and 2.5 million votes and counting, fucktard. She did everything she had to do to win.

You're a joke and Trump and the Repug Party are a fucking joke. Most Americans and the whole world knows it.

No one ran for the popular vote. You are stupid as shit. Democrats just lead you by the nose

Piss off, little Repug lightweight fucktard. My excrement could easily handle your unremarkable ass in a debate.

You simply know nothing and you're boring.

You always know the people who suck at debates are the ones who need to crow about your prowess, you know that no one would know if you didn't tell them ...

He is the silliest liberal poster. Not even other libs will defend him because they also realize he is nuts.

Hes also a n00b.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Hillary Clinton won Florida, N. Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, according to the exit polls. The story link and polling data are provided below.

I have a very difficult time believing the exit polls were "wrong" by such large amounts in all 4 of these states. Historically, exit polls are extremely reliable, which is why they are used by the United Nations to monitor elections in Third World countries. If the U.S. were a Third World country, the United Nations would be crying foul regarding this election.

I think the more logical explanation for why the exit polls were "wrong" by such a large amount is that Repug election officials stole this election for Trump in these 4 states. It happened to Gore in Florida in 2000 and it also happened to Kerry in Ohio in 2004.

The Repug Party is fascist. The Repug Party is evil. The Repug Party does not believe in democracy. Democracy in this country is in mortal danger.

Hopefully, Jill Stein's recounts discover fraud in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, but it could be extremely difficult to prove.

2016 Exit Polls vs. Actual Results: Here’s What May Have Happened

Florida:

Exit Polls: Clinton 47.7%, Trump 46.4% (Clinton by 1.3%)
Actual Results: Clinton 47.8%, Trump 49.0% (Trump by 1.2%)

Trump gain: 2.5%



North Carolina:

Exit Polls: Clinton 48.6%, Trump 46.5% (Clinton by 2.1%)
Actual Results: Clinton 46.1%, Trump 49.9%) (Trump by 3.8%)

Trump gain: 5.9%



Pennsylvania:

Exit Polls: Clinton 50.5%, Trump 46.1% (Clinton by 4.4%)
Actual Results: Clinton 47.6%, Trump 48.8% (Trump by 1.2%)

Trump gain: 5.6%



Wisconsin:

Exit Polls: Clinton 48.2%, Trump 44.3% (Clinton by 3.9%)
Actual Results: Clinton 47.6%, Trump 48.8% (Trump by 1.2%)

Trump gain: 5.1%

Then why did the Hillary camp already know it lost as soon as east coast polls closed? Hell, they knew the night before when they cancelled for big fireworks show.

Ghostbusters Needed to Disintegrate These Stay Puft Marshmallow Men

I was suspicious when Illary, in what now seems to have been an act of desperation, called out the party's Big Guns to campaign for her. The media agents rigged the polls in order to have the loss become unacceptable to her triumphalist fans. The still-kicking Demwit Establishment need snowflakes in denial, not depressed. Suspecting what was coming before it happened would have made the Hillarians resigned and apathetic by now.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Hillary Clinton won Florida, N. Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, according to the exit polls. The story link and polling data are provided below.

I have a very difficult time believing the exit polls were "wrong" by such large amounts in all 4 of these states. Historically, exit polls are extremely reliable, which is why they are used by the United Nations to monitor elections in Third World countries. If the U.S. were a Third World country, the United Nations would be crying foul regarding this election.

I think the more logical explanation for why the exit polls were "wrong" by such a large amount is that Repug election officials stole this election for Trump in these 4 states. It happened to Gore in Florida in 2000 and it also happened to Kerry in Ohio in 2004.

The Repug Party is fascist. The Repug Party is evil. The Repug Party does not believe in democracy. Democracy in this country is in mortal danger.

Hopefully, Jill Stein's recounts discover fraud in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, but it could be extremely difficult to prove.

2016 Exit Polls vs. Actual Results: Here’s What May Have Happened

Florida:

Exit Polls: Clinton 47.7%, Trump 46.4% (Clinton by 1.3%)
Actual Results: Clinton 47.8%, Trump 49.0% (Trump by 1.2%)

Trump gain: 2.5%



North Carolina:

Exit Polls: Clinton 48.6%, Trump 46.5% (Clinton by 2.1%)
Actual Results: Clinton 46.1%, Trump 49.9%) (Trump by 3.8%)

Trump gain: 5.9%



Pennsylvania:

Exit Polls: Clinton 50.5%, Trump 46.1% (Clinton by 4.4%)
Actual Results: Clinton 47.6%, Trump 48.8% (Trump by 1.2%)

Trump gain: 5.6%



Wisconsin:

Exit Polls: Clinton 48.2%, Trump 44.3% (Clinton by 3.9%)
Actual Results: Clinton 47.6%, Trump 48.8% (Trump by 1.2%)

Trump gain: 5.1%

Then why did the Hillary camp already know it lost as soon as east coast polls closed? Hell, they knew the night before when they cancelled for big fireworks show.

I don't know what planet you live on. The electoral college result was a shock to virtually everyone, including the Clinton campaign. That's what happens when elections are stolen. There is no way in hell that Trump legitimately "won" PA, MI, and WI when all 3 states have gone for Democratic presidential candidates for the past 20+ years.

Clinton won the popular vote by 2% and 2.5 million votes, which was fairly close to expectations. The electoral college voters should vote for her.

Shock to who?

Clinton needed a 3.9% lead on a national basis to have a 50/50 shot at winning the electoral college. She was well below that.

You look at the polls as though the national popular vote has absolute value in a system that discounts it.

Look, this system is more like football and less like baseball. Clinton scored more times then trump, but Trumps 3 touchdowns won the game over Clintons 5 field goals.

The Entitled Get Lazy

Romney was also blamed for spreading himself too thin and not putting more focus on the battleground states. Even without previous experience, Trump showed his talent at running any kind of organization by directing himself and Pence at exactly the critical electoral areas needed to win.