Hogg and the rest of the gun grabbing students are a perfect example of what is wrong with humanity.

[beagle9]

Jerry Clower, a noted comedian, once put forth an observation. Everyone has an ideal, of what a perfect world would be. That idea is unique, and always has one similarity. Everyone’s point of view is that they themselves, are perfect, and if everyone was more like them, the world would be as perfect as humanly possible.

If you all were more like me, then the world would be better, if not perfect. That is arrogance beyond belief. We all know we can be better, and some of us admit we could be much better. We read, watch documentaries and otherwise try and learn. Yet, the more perfect we see ourselves as, the less we need to learn, the less we need to change. Hogg and the students are in their own eyes, perfect. It’s all of us who are wrong. We aren’t as enlightened, as woke as they are.

All of the visions of the future require one other thing. We all have to give up our rights, and our individuality, to conform to their view.

Hogg has no issue with everyone else giving up their rights, be they the first, or second amendment rights. He denigrates NRA and the members, and the people who support the ideals of the NRA while not actually joining. Yet his favorite Amendment is the First, which among other things protects the right of free association. It is actually peaceably assemble, but you get the idea.

We are free to join any group, and advocate for any cause we like. Just as Hogg is. The difference is what those associations hope to gain. For the NRA, and the supporters of the Second Amendment, they are advocating for their rights under the 2nd Amendment. An Amendment that young Mr. Hogg and the Students haven’t ever heard of, or studied apparently.

History is vital. It tells the story of how we got here. The more history you learn, the smarter choices you can make, and this is the key, the more mistakes you can avoid.

Do I want all of you to be like me? No. One of me is plenty. Mr. Hogg has the first amendment right to say any crazy thing he wants. But the lesson Hogg is learning is this. So does everyone else. I would argue to the limit of my ability for Hogg to be able to speak his mind. I would argue the same for anyone, no matter how much I disagree. I know that principle is not unique, it comes from the world history I’ve studied. Voltaire talked about it much. I’ve quoted the principles of St. Augustine more than once on this board.

I believe what I believe, and I have reasons to believe it, not just an idea, or a feeling. I have a foundation for that belief, which is why I am able to write about the subjects I comment on with some ease, because it’s not just a knee jerk reaction, but a considered opinion. I may be wrong according to you, and I may not be as well read as some others, but that is a failing I am still trying to rectify by reading and studying history. A better understanding of how we got to this point, and a better more complete view going forward. With luck, I’ll be smarter than I ever was just as I die, because I never stopped learning.

Hogg and the students demand that we become more like them, because in their views, they are perfect. When I was a kid, there was a bumper sticker my Mother got and put on her car. It said. “Teenagers, move out of your parents house now, while you still know everything.”

I was once young, and arrogant enough to think I knew it all. We all were. My parents tolerated me some, and corrected my erroneous beliefs often. It’s a shame that young Mr. Hogg hasn’t had the advantage of that kind of care from his parents. Because it will make him a better person, even if after he learns what he is talking about, he continues to disagree with me.

Oh, and the only change I’d make if I was in control of the world. I’d call on the people to stop worrying about what everyone else is doing. Focus on your own life, and you’ll probably be a lot happier.

better a gun grabber than a pussy grabber

No it's not! Lets not place policy on the dislike of a president. I am not a trump fan but I am a fan of the constitution!

The constitution ??
Here are all the ways Trump has been accused of violating the Constitution

Um, did you not see the part of not a Trump fan! You are preaching to the chior! I seperate my leaders from policy. Just because t Trump belives the same way I do on a given policy does not mean I give up that belife nor does it make me take up a side in which he is an oppenent. Every pres since 911 has abused the constitution in ways that are unnatural.

PS. Osama won the second the Patriot act was put into place. Our western freedoms and way of life ended that day!

.Yeah, because our Intel was weaponized.

 

[evenflow1969]

Jerry Clower, a noted comedian, once put forth an observation. Everyone has an ideal, of what a perfect world would be. That idea is unique, and always has one similarity. Everyone’s point of view is that they themselves, are perfect, and if everyone was more like them, the world would be as perfect as humanly possible.

If you all were more like me, then the world would be better, if not perfect. That is arrogance beyond belief. We all know we can be better, and some of us admit we could be much better. We read, watch documentaries and otherwise try and learn. Yet, the more perfect we see ourselves as, the less we need to learn, the less we need to change. Hogg and the students are in their own eyes, perfect. It’s all of us who are wrong. We aren’t as enlightened, as woke as they are.

All of the visions of the future require one other thing. We all have to give up our rights, and our individuality, to conform to their view.

Hogg has no issue with everyone else giving up their rights, be they the first, or second amendment rights. He denigrates NRA and the members, and the people who support the ideals of the NRA while not actually joining. Yet his favorite Amendment is the First, which among other things protects the right of free association. It is actually peaceably assemble, but you get the idea.

We are free to join any group, and advocate for any cause we like. Just as Hogg is. The difference is what those associations hope to gain. For the NRA, and the supporters of the Second Amendment, they are advocating for their rights under the 2nd Amendment. An Amendment that young Mr. Hogg and the Students haven’t ever heard of, or studied apparently.

History is vital. It tells the story of how we got here. The more history you learn, the smarter choices you can make, and this is the key, the more mistakes you can avoid.

Do I want all of you to be like me? No. One of me is plenty. Mr. Hogg has the first amendment right to say any crazy thing he wants. But the lesson Hogg is learning is this. So does everyone else. I would argue to the limit of my ability for Hogg to be able to speak his mind. I would argue the same for anyone, no matter how much I disagree. I know that principle is not unique, it comes from the world history I’ve studied. Voltaire talked about it much. I’ve quoted the principles of St. Augustine more than once on this board.

I believe what I believe, and I have reasons to believe it, not just an idea, or a feeling. I have a foundation for that belief, which is why I am able to write about the subjects I comment on with some ease, because it’s not just a knee jerk reaction, but a considered opinion. I may be wrong according to you, and I may not be as well read as some others, but that is a failing I am still trying to rectify by reading and studying history. A better understanding of how we got to this point, and a better more complete view going forward. With luck, I’ll be smarter than I ever was just as I die, because I never stopped learning.

Hogg and the students demand that we become more like them, because in their views, they are perfect. When I was a kid, there was a bumper sticker my Mother got and put on her car. It said. “Teenagers, move out of your parents house now, while you still know everything.”

I was once young, and arrogant enough to think I knew it all. We all were. My parents tolerated me some, and corrected my erroneous beliefs often. It’s a shame that young Mr. Hogg hasn’t had the advantage of that kind of care from his parents. Because it will make him a better person, even if after he learns what he is talking about, he continues to disagree with me.

Oh, and the only change I’d make if I was in control of the world. I’d call on the people to stop worrying about what everyone else is doing. Focus on your own life, and you’ll probably be a lot happier.

better a gun grabber than a pussy grabber

No it's not! Lets not place policy on the dislike of a president. I am not a trump fan but I am a fan of the constitution!

The constitution ??
Here are all the ways Trump has been accused of violating the Constitution

Um, did you not see the part of not a Trump fan! You are preaching to the chior! I seperate my leaders from policy. Just because t Trump belives the same way I do on a given policy does not mean I give up that belife nor does it make me take up a side in which he is an oppenent. Every pres since 911 has abused the constitution in ways that are unnatural.

PS. Osama won the second the Patriot act was put into place. Our western freedoms and way of life ended that day!

Yes I did and appreciate any poster who can say as you did not a trump fan You did say you were a fan of the constitution I was posting how he's abused it And policy aside does it not matter how our country and the rest of the world sees him?? From my point of view ,,,not well

Of course it does! Trust is a large part in deal making, he has not earned my trust. I would be very hesitant in making any deals with this man.

 

[basquebromance]

Why is Ted Nugent being viciously attacked by the left? He’s absolutely right, David Hogg and these punk ass kids have NO SOULS. They have totally surrendered to the marxist media, fully embracing them. Anybody advocating to leave Americans unarmed & helpless are truly evil.

 

[evenflow1969]

Why is Ted Nugent being viciously attacked by the left? He’s absolutely right, David Hogg and these punk ass kids have NO SOULS. They have totally surrendered to the marxist media, fully embracing them. Anybody advocating to leave Americans unarmed & helpless are truly evil.

These kids have no souls? Am I the only one here thaty has kids? If I am going to sit around and wait on my kids being right, I am going to be waiting for a while. They are kids and they are having a knee jerk reaction. They have not payed bills nor faced the natural consequenses of life. They do have souls, just yound,stupid and inexperienced lives. I am significantly brighter than I was when I was 18. I hope you are also! I also hope they will be at some time these kids will be too. You are allowed to be wrong, this does not make you evil, it makes you ill inofrmed!

 

[Pogo]

If you all were more like me, then the world would be better, if not perfect. That is arrogance beyond belief.

It is huh.

So you're saying we should all walk around with stupid ideas that won't work?

Think I'll pass.

Jerry Clower, a noted comedian, once put forth an observation. Everyone has an ideal, of what a perfect world would be. That idea is unique, and always has one similarity. Everyone’s point of view is that they themselves, are perfect, and if everyone was more like them, the world would be as perfect as humanly possible.

If you all were more like me, then the world would be better, if not perfect. That is arrogance beyond belief. We all know we can be better, and some of us admit we could be much better. We read, watch documentaries and otherwise try and learn. Yet, the more perfect we see ourselves as, the less we need to learn, the less we need to change. Hogg and the students are in their own eyes, perfect. It’s all of us who are wrong. We aren’t as enlightened, as woke as they are.

All of the visions of the future require one other thing. We all have to give up our rights, and our individuality, to conform to their view.

Hogg has no issue with everyone else giving up their rights, be they the first, or second amendment rights. He denigrates NRA and the members, and the people who support the ideals of the NRA while not actually joining. Yet his favorite Amendment is the First, which among other things protects the right of free association. It is actually peaceably assemble, but you get the idea.

We are free to join any group, and advocate for any cause we like. Just as Hogg is. The difference is what those associations hope to gain. For the NRA, and the supporters of the Second Amendment, they are advocating for their rights under the 2nd Amendment. An Amendment that young Mr. Hogg and the Students haven’t ever heard of, or studied apparently.

History is vital. It tells the story of how we got here. The more history you learn, the smarter choices you can make, and this is the key, the more mistakes you can avoid.

Do I want all of you to be like me? No. One of me is plenty. Mr. Hogg has the first amendment right to say any crazy thing he wants. But the lesson Hogg is learning is this. So does everyone else. I would argue to the limit of my ability for Hogg to be able to speak his mind. I would argue the same for anyone, no matter how much I disagree. I know that principle is not unique, it comes from the world history I’ve studied. Voltaire talked about it much. I’ve quoted the principles of St. Augustine more than once on this board.

I believe what I believe, and I have reasons to believe it, not just an idea, or a feeling. I have a foundation for that belief, which is why I am able to write about the subjects I comment on with some ease, because it’s not just a knee jerk reaction, but a considered opinion. I may be wrong according to you, and I may not be as well read as some others, but that is a failing I am still trying to rectify by reading and studying history. A better understanding of how we got to this point, and a better more complete view going forward. With luck, I’ll be smarter than I ever was just as I die, because I never stopped learning.

Hogg and the students demand that we become more like them, because in their views, they are perfect. When I was a kid, there was a bumper sticker my Mother got and put on her car. It said. “Teenagers, move out of your parents house now, while you still know everything.”

I was once young, and arrogant enough to think I knew it all. We all were. My parents tolerated me some, and corrected my erroneous beliefs often. It’s a shame that young Mr. Hogg hasn’t had the advantage of that kind of care from his parents. Because it will make him a better person, even if after he learns what he is talking about, he continues to disagree with me.

Oh, and the only change I’d make if I was in control of the world. I’d call on the people to stop worrying about what everyone else is doing. Focus on your own life, and you’ll probably be a lot happier.

Translation:



The term "snowflake" keeps running across my screen when I read this butthurt shit.


Hogg and the rest of the gun grabbing students are a perfect example of what is wrong with humanity

Yeah it's so "wrong" to protest being shot at. The wrongest wrongity of wrongitude imaginable.

/thread

Well, young Mr. Hogg seems to think we should embrace stupid ideals that won’t work. You seem to think he is right. The fact that his views are both wrong logically, and he can’t accurately point out what part of the Constitution applies, much less identify the type of Government we have is what makes it stupid. Or do you think he is right?

I'm not even familiar with his comments. Nor certainly would I depend on an echo-chamber parrot site like this to tell me. That's all irrelevant. I'm more interested here in the psychology of attacking, denigrating and dehumanizing victims just because they dare stand up for their own lives.

For literally the entire time I've been on this site (and before) I've been pointing out this firearm fetishism that drives this sicko shit. And y'all fetish-parrots keep on proving me right.

You literally proved the OP is correct. Your response was that you have lost all ability to reason.

Oh look. It's the asscrack who tried to float the turd-premise of some sort of inverse relationship between degree of sexual activity and "credibility" and then couldn't get it to float.

You just won an all-expense paid trip to beautiful Flushing NY.

 

[edward37]

Why is Ted Nugent being viciously attacked by the left? He’s absolutely right, David Hogg and these punk ass kids have NO SOULS. They have totally surrendered to the marxist media, fully embracing them. Anybody advocating to leave Americans unarmed & helpless are truly evil.

These kids have no souls? Am I the only one here thaty has kids? If I am going to sit around and wait on my kids being right, I am going to be waiting for a while. They are kids and they are having a knee jerk reaction. They have not payed bills nor faced the natural consequenses of life. They do have souls, just yound,stupid and inexperienced lives. I am significantly brighter than I was when I was 18. I hope you are also! I also hope they will be at some time these kids will be too. You are allowed to be wrong, this does not make you evil, it makes you ill inofrmed!

They're not so stupid that they don't see politicians praying for the dead kids BUT doing nothing else They're not so stupid that they can't see the NRA with their hands on their asses doing nothing to help Most kids are damn smart Don't believe republican crap

 

[skookerasbil]

Hey....i hope Hogg gets wall to wall coverage....the more this guy is on the boob the better if you are a 2nd amendment guy. The activist nutters are always a windfall for real americans

 

[evenflow1969]

Why is Ted Nugent being viciously attacked by the left? He’s absolutely right, David Hogg and these punk ass kids have NO SOULS. They have totally surrendered to the marxist media, fully embracing them. Anybody advocating to leave Americans unarmed & helpless are truly evil.

These kids have no souls? Am I the only one here thaty has kids? If I am going to sit around and wait on my kids being right, I am going to be waiting for a while. They are kids and they are having a knee jerk reaction. They have not payed bills nor faced the natural consequenses of life. They do have souls, just yound,stupid and inexperienced lives. I am significantly brighter than I was when I was 18. I hope you are also! I also hope they will be at some time these kids will be too. You are allowed to be wrong, this does not make you evil, it makes you ill inofrmed!

They're not so stupid that they don't see politicians praying for the dead kids BUT doing nothing else They're not so stupid that they can't see the NRA with their hands on their asses doing nothing to help Most kids are damn smart Don't believe republican crap

It is not republican crap! It is common sense! people do not learn a lesson until they experience the full pain of thier decissions, that is the way it is. Compared to people with experience they are stupid! They are not as functional as we are and for this reason they are afforded some margin of error. They will grow and become smarter. If you have never sailed, you do not know when to duck or the boom will knock you off the boat. You do not klnow what to do unless you have faced it or were with some on who has. That is just the way it is!

 

[skookerasbil]

Why is Ted Nugent being viciously attacked by the left? He’s absolutely right, David Hogg and these punk ass kids have NO SOULS. They have totally surrendered to the marxist media, fully embracing them. Anybody advocating to leave Americans unarmed & helpless are truly evil.

These kids have no souls? Am I the only one here thaty has kids? If I am going to sit around and wait on my kids being right, I am going to be waiting for a while. They are kids and they are having a knee jerk reaction. They have not payed bills nor faced the natural consequenses of life. They do have souls, just yound,stupid and inexperienced lives. I am significantly brighter than I was when I was 18. I hope you are also! I also hope they will be at some time these kids will be too. You are allowed to be wrong, this does not make you evil, it makes you ill inofrmed!

They're not so stupid that they don't see politicians praying for the dead kids BUT doing nothing else They're not so stupid that they can't see the NRA with their hands on their asses doing nothing to help Most kids are damn smart Don't believe republican crap

....s0n....whistling past the graveyard is ghey

 

[edward37]

Hey....i hope Hogg gets wall to wall coverage....the more this guy is on the boob the better if you are a 2nd amendment guy. The activist nutters are always a windfall for real americans

as the bitch on FOX keeps losing advertisers

 

[edward37]

Why is Ted Nugent being viciously attacked by the left? He’s absolutely right, David Hogg and these punk ass kids have NO SOULS. They have totally surrendered to the marxist media, fully embracing them. Anybody advocating to leave Americans unarmed & helpless are truly evil.

These kids have no souls? Am I the only one here thaty has kids? If I am going to sit around and wait on my kids being right, I am going to be waiting for a while. They are kids and they are having a knee jerk reaction. They have not payed bills nor faced the natural consequenses of life. They do have souls, just yound,stupid and inexperienced lives. I am significantly brighter than I was when I was 18. I hope you are also! I also hope they will be at some time these kids will be too. You are allowed to be wrong, this does not make you evil, it makes you ill inofrmed!

They're not so stupid that they don't see politicians praying for the dead kids BUT doing nothing else They're not so stupid that they can't see the NRA with their hands on their asses doing nothing to help Most kids are damn smart Don't believe republican crap

It is not republican crap! It is common sense! people do not learn a lesson until they experience the full pain of thier decissions, that is the way it is. Compared to people with experience they are stupid! They are not as functional as we are and for this reason they are afforded some margin of error. They will grow and become smarter. If you have never sailed, you do not know when to duck or the boom will knock you off the boat. You do not klnow what to do unless you have faced it or were with some on who has. That is just the way it is!

This is not these kids first episode with killings in schools They've been silent all those other times Like one of them said ENOUGH IS ENOUGH........as politicians pray

 

[Pogo]

Yeah it's wrong to get shot at, but it doesn't mean that you take that experience in such a way, that it makes you want to then strike out at the good citizens for that instance of wrong in which was perpetrated against you.

Of course it doesn't. This is a truism.
But it's got nothing to do with anything here. Unless you're describing the butthurt OP trying to denigrate kids who simply want to be safe. That's clearly a ready example of 'striking out at good citizens for that instance of wrong perpetrated against them'.

But I already noted that at the beginning. Apparently we agree.

Great OP, and right on time.

No, it's another Butthurt Brigade thread, trying to hang some paranoid debasement on the good, and inspiring, citizenship of high school kids who had the temerity to mobilize. The Butthurt Brigade can't deal with it --- hence the incessant Butthurt.

 

[SavannahMann]

Yes, he is wrong. People see weakness and attack period. If one person has a gun and you do not you have zero say in your future, that is the way it is. That is human nature. You want to give up your ability to defend your self bad things will happen. These are the natural laws we face. We are animals and there has been an arms race from the beginning it will never stop. To think it will is folley. Every animal in the animal kingdom follows the same rules you can not ignore them.

And I could point out many ways in which you are wrong.

You're basically trying to take civilization backwards in time, in order to fit your view of the world.

The US is the least safe first world country.

It has the highest prison population of first world countries.
It has the highest gun ownership of first world countries.
It has the highest wealth gap of first world countries.

What you're telling me isn't based on facts, or reality, but on some twisted view you have in your head that you're unwilling to see is plain wrong.

Guns did none of what you are quoting. A gun is an inanimate object. people did what you are talking about. Cause and effect fallacy. How ever if I have a gun and you do not and we are in an argument, I win period. If you want to trust your safety and your care on others, you are going to be sorely disappoiinted. We the people elected representatives that thought private prisons was a good idea. We put proffit in prisons. Guns did not do that. Now we have a duley elected governent in which you want to have all the guns all ready puting more people in prison than any where on earth and have shown they are willing to incarcerate you for money.; You are willing for these same people to be your safety net and they are going to protect you. You are going to give them your guns and they now make your decissions for you. You now have no guns and no where to turn but the same peop[le that brought you all of the above. Great plan buddy.

Guns in the hands of humans make humans much more effective killers.

You can post all the crap you like about how guns are inanimate objects, but it doesn't stop the fact that humans with guns are more dangerous and will use them.

Hence why the US has a murder rate 4 to 5 times higher than most first world countries.

Blah,blah,blah. You want to give up some thing that makes you equal wqith the bad guys good luck. They will not take my gun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I do not make a living in crime. The crimnal alll ready does not care about law he will give it up never! We still have the problem that guns caused none of what you quoted and you still want to give them to the people that did. Futher more what happened to the american indian? They did not have guns and we did ! How did that turn out for them. Does a gun make me a more effective killer? You bet! It also allows me to stand against another killer. If people wewre noit ass holes we would not have these issues. You can not regulate assholes away any more than guns. You have a simple view of the world. You want to give all of your guns away that is fine, you have no right to make me as stupid and defensless as you. Do to my job, I have to some times be in some pretty bad areas and would not be here to day if it were not for my fire arm.

And that's what it boils down to, isn't it? You want your guns and you will do ANYTHING to make sure you keep them.

You'll ignore reality.

To get the guns, you’ll ignore reality, history, logic, and even natural law. Plants struggle for dominance to survive. Animals struggle to survive. Plants adapt and try to find a way to win the evolutionary struggle, to survive against a more prolific species of plant. Animals adapt to defend themselves. Turtles developed a hard shell that was nearly impenetrable by predators. Puffer Fish swell to appear larger, to frighten predators away, and are poisonous to make sure the predator does not profit from the kill.

Cats, rats, dogs, and hogs. All of them fight to survive. Humanity is the only species that honestly believes that self defense, the ability to defend oneself, is a problem.

I can study for years and become an expert knife fighter. I can study the techniques, developed the skills necessary to defeat a Navy Seal in a knife fight. I would certainly defeat the average person, and kill them with impunity. That average person can easily negate all my training with one thing, a gun.

I can face a black belt martial artist, and defend myself successfully. I can face a man hopped up on drugs, to the point where no amount of pain compliance will stop him, and defend myself. A woman who weighs 110 lbs soaking wet can defend herself against a 225 pound weight lifter. Talk about the literal definition of no means no.

While walking in my woods, I can kill a rattlesnake before it harms my pets, or my self, or the others in my rural areas. I can kill a coyote, and we have those here, or a wild boar. I can take on animals that would otherwise have a great advantage over me that nature has provided. An unarmed man versus a boar is what we call a meal, the boar will kill the man. Even a man armed with a club or other basic weapon is at a severe disadvantage.



But a man with a gun, or a woman, has at least a good chance of coming out alive. Or of saving their children.

The gun is a tool. A hammer drives nails, and has been used through history to smash skulls. It breaks rocks, and bones. A saw was used to cut wood, or by doctors to cut bones during amputations. Doctor Mengala used the saw to cut into living people, to see what he could find.

The hammer is not evil, nor is the saw. Neither is the gun evil. It is a tool, the great equalizer according to Sam Colt. The police can not guarantee your safety. They can perhaps catch the person who raped, or robbed, or murdered you. I say perhaps because many, if not most crimes go unsolved, including murders.

You believe civilization means we don’t have a need to have that silly Wild West mentality of armed defense. Yet, the Wild West just wasn’t all that wild. Most people who emigrated West were veterans of the Civil War. A man who faced the line at Shiloh was not likely to be all that impressed by a yahoo with a pistol. He had already seen much much worse.

The outlaws who were lionized and became legendary were few and far between. The truth is that the world is far more dangerous today, in the civilized sections. The only difference, the Doctor might actually save your life. It wasn’t until the Civil War that Doctors started to learn that bacteria might actually be killing people. So they began the outrages practice of washing up between patients. Oh and washing the wound out with Whiskey.

Perhaps one day the world will be civilized, and weapons won’t be a tool needed to protect and defend. Even then, I would argue for the rights of Gun Owners. Because civilized today, does not mean civilized tomorrow. Civil Order lasted less than three days in New Orleans during Katrina. The cops just left. They stole cars and left. You believe that if we remove the tool, the nature of man will change. That denies what man is, an animal just like those above, struggling to survive.

 

[Pop23]

If you all were more like me, then the world would be better, if not perfect. That is arrogance beyond belief.

It is huh.

So you're saying we should all walk around with stupid ideas that won't work?

Think I'll pass.

Jerry Clower, a noted comedian, once put forth an observation. Everyone has an ideal, of what a perfect world would be. That idea is unique, and always has one similarity. Everyone’s point of view is that they themselves, are perfect, and if everyone was more like them, the world would be as perfect as humanly possible.

If you all were more like me, then the world would be better, if not perfect. That is arrogance beyond belief. We all know we can be better, and some of us admit we could be much better. We read, watch documentaries and otherwise try and learn. Yet, the more perfect we see ourselves as, the less we need to learn, the less we need to change. Hogg and the students are in their own eyes, perfect. It’s all of us who are wrong. We aren’t as enlightened, as woke as they are.

All of the visions of the future require one other thing. We all have to give up our rights, and our individuality, to conform to their view.

Hogg has no issue with everyone else giving up their rights, be they the first, or second amendment rights. He denigrates NRA and the members, and the people who support the ideals of the NRA while not actually joining. Yet his favorite Amendment is the First, which among other things protects the right of free association. It is actually peaceably assemble, but you get the idea.

We are free to join any group, and advocate for any cause we like. Just as Hogg is. The difference is what those associations hope to gain. For the NRA, and the supporters of the Second Amendment, they are advocating for their rights under the 2nd Amendment. An Amendment that young Mr. Hogg and the Students haven’t ever heard of, or studied apparently.

History is vital. It tells the story of how we got here. The more history you learn, the smarter choices you can make, and this is the key, the more mistakes you can avoid.

Do I want all of you to be like me? No. One of me is plenty. Mr. Hogg has the first amendment right to say any crazy thing he wants. But the lesson Hogg is learning is this. So does everyone else. I would argue to the limit of my ability for Hogg to be able to speak his mind. I would argue the same for anyone, no matter how much I disagree. I know that principle is not unique, it comes from the world history I’ve studied. Voltaire talked about it much. I’ve quoted the principles of St. Augustine more than once on this board.

I believe what I believe, and I have reasons to believe it, not just an idea, or a feeling. I have a foundation for that belief, which is why I am able to write about the subjects I comment on with some ease, because it’s not just a knee jerk reaction, but a considered opinion. I may be wrong according to you, and I may not be as well read as some others, but that is a failing I am still trying to rectify by reading and studying history. A better understanding of how we got to this point, and a better more complete view going forward. With luck, I’ll be smarter than I ever was just as I die, because I never stopped learning.

Hogg and the students demand that we become more like them, because in their views, they are perfect. When I was a kid, there was a bumper sticker my Mother got and put on her car. It said. “Teenagers, move out of your parents house now, while you still know everything.”

I was once young, and arrogant enough to think I knew it all. We all were. My parents tolerated me some, and corrected my erroneous beliefs often. It’s a shame that young Mr. Hogg hasn’t had the advantage of that kind of care from his parents. Because it will make him a better person, even if after he learns what he is talking about, he continues to disagree with me.

Oh, and the only change I’d make if I was in control of the world. I’d call on the people to stop worrying about what everyone else is doing. Focus on your own life, and you’ll probably be a lot happier.

Translation:



The term "snowflake" keeps running across my screen when I read this butthurt shit.


Hogg and the rest of the gun grabbing students are a perfect example of what is wrong with humanity

Yeah it's so "wrong" to protest being shot at. The wrongest wrongity of wrongitude imaginable.

/thread

Well, young Mr. Hogg seems to think we should embrace stupid ideals that won’t work. You seem to think he is right. The fact that his views are both wrong logically, and he can’t accurately point out what part of the Constitution applies, much less identify the type of Government we have is what makes it stupid. Or do you think he is right?

I'm not even familiar with his comments. Nor certainly would I depend on an echo-chamber parrot site like this to tell me. That's all irrelevant. I'm more interested here in the psychology of attacking, denigrating and dehumanizing victims just because they dare stand up for their own lives.

For literally the entire time I've been on this site (and before) I've been pointing out this firearm fetishism that drives this sicko shit. And y'all fetish-parrots keep on proving me right.

You literally proved the OP is correct. Your response was that you have lost all ability to reason.

Oh look. It's the asscrack who tried to float the turd-premise of some sort of inverse relationship between degree of sexual activity and "credibility" and then couldn't get it to float.

You just won an all-expense paid trip to beautiful Flushing NY.

Oh look. It's asscrack who tried to float the absurd notion that a crime victim should not report a crime once the criminal has left the area.

And he's commenting on what the victims should now do after a crime was committed.

Credibility?, You have no idea how foolish you look.

 

[BS Filter]

Commies. Case closed.

 

[Pogo]

It is huh.

So you're saying we should all walk around with stupid ideas that won't work?

Think I'll pass.

Translation:



The term "snowflake" keeps running across my screen when I read this butthurt shit.


Hogg and the rest of the gun grabbing students are a perfect example of what is wrong with humanity

Yeah it's so "wrong" to protest being shot at. The wrongest wrongity of wrongitude imaginable.

/thread

Well, young Mr. Hogg seems to think we should embrace stupid ideals that won’t work. You seem to think he is right. The fact that his views are both wrong logically, and he can’t accurately point out what part of the Constitution applies, much less identify the type of Government we have is what makes it stupid. Or do you think he is right?

I'm not even familiar with his comments. Nor certainly would I depend on an echo-chamber parrot site like this to tell me. That's all irrelevant. I'm more interested here in the psychology of attacking, denigrating and dehumanizing victims just because they dare stand up for their own lives.

For literally the entire time I've been on this site (and before) I've been pointing out this firearm fetishism that drives this sicko shit. And y'all fetish-parrots keep on proving me right.

You literally proved the OP is correct. Your response was that you have lost all ability to reason.

Oh look. It's the asscrack who tried to float the turd-premise of some sort of inverse relationship between degree of sexual activity and "credibility" and then couldn't get it to float.

You just won an all-expense paid trip to beautiful Flushing NY.

Oh look. It's asscrack who tried to float the absurd notion that a crime victim should not report a crime once the criminal has left the area.

And he's commenting on what the victims should now do after a crime was committed.

Credibility?, You have no idea how foolish you look.

Oh look. The Butthurt Store™ got restocked, and they's havin' a sale!

 

[PredFan]

Nothing she said was wrong.

Just words. It's all good.

Nothing she said was wrong, liar.

Right. Words are just words. It's fine. She's a model citizen.

Irrelevant, liar, nothing she said was wrong.

You are calling me a liar here. Do you know what that word means?

I believe that you and I are of differing opinions regarding whether or not what she said was "wrong".

I actually don't believe that you think her comments were appropriate. So, that makes you the one lying here. Why would you lie for that idiot?

I’m calling you a liar because you are. As I have proven in the past. Do you understand the difference between “appropriate” and “wrong”? Of course you don’t liar, you are an idiot.

 

[PredFan]

Jerry Clower, a noted comedian, once put forth an observation. Everyone has an ideal, of what a perfect world would be. That idea is unique, and always has one similarity. Everyone’s point of view is that they themselves, are perfect, and if everyone was more like them, the world would be as perfect as humanly possible.

If you all were more like me, then the world would be better, if not perfect. That is arrogance beyond belief. We all know we can be better, and some of us admit we could be much better. We read, watch documentaries and otherwise try and learn. Yet, the more perfect we see ourselves as, the less we need to learn, the less we need to change. Hogg and the students are in their own eyes, perfect. It’s all of us who are wrong. We aren’t as enlightened, as woke as they are.

All of the visions of the future require one other thing. We all have to give up our rights, and our individuality, to conform to their view.

Hogg has no issue with everyone else giving up their rights, be they the first, or second amendment rights. He denigrates NRA and the members, and the people who support the ideals of the NRA while not actually joining. Yet his favorite Amendment is the First, which among other things protects the right of free association. It is actually peaceably assemble, but you get the idea.

We are free to join any group, and advocate for any cause we like. Just as Hogg is. The difference is what those associations hope to gain. For the NRA, and the supporters of the Second Amendment, they are advocating for their rights under the 2nd Amendment. An Amendment that young Mr. Hogg and the Students haven’t ever heard of, or studied apparently.

History is vital. It tells the story of how we got here. The more history you learn, the smarter choices you can make, and this is the key, the more mistakes you can avoid.

Do I want all of you to be like me? No. One of me is plenty. Mr. Hogg has the first amendment right to say any crazy thing he wants. But the lesson Hogg is learning is this. So does everyone else. I would argue to the limit of my ability for Hogg to be able to speak his mind. I would argue the same for anyone, no matter how much I disagree. I know that principle is not unique, it comes from the world history I’ve studied. Voltaire talked about it much. I’ve quoted the principles of St. Augustine more than once on this board.

I believe what I believe, and I have reasons to believe it, not just an idea, or a feeling. I have a foundation for that belief, which is why I am able to write about the subjects I comment on with some ease, because it’s not just a knee jerk reaction, but a considered opinion. I may be wrong according to you, and I may not be as well read as some others, but that is a failing I am still trying to rectify by reading and studying history. A better understanding of how we got to this point, and a better more complete view going forward. With luck, I’ll be smarter than I ever was just as I die, because I never stopped learning.

Hogg and the students demand that we become more like them, because in their views, they are perfect. When I was a kid, there was a bumper sticker my Mother got and put on her car. It said. “Teenagers, move out of your parents house now, while you still know everything.”

I was once young, and arrogant enough to think I knew it all. We all were. My parents tolerated me some, and corrected my erroneous beliefs often. It’s a shame that young Mr. Hogg hasn’t had the advantage of that kind of care from his parents. Because it will make him a better person, even if after he learns what he is talking about, he continues to disagree with me.

Oh, and the only change I’d make if I was in control of the world. I’d call on the people to stop worrying about what everyone else is doing. Focus on your own life, and you’ll probably be a lot happier.

Young is exactly what Mr. Hogg is. His views will change with experience. We have a right to be wrong when we are young. Wrong is what he is, there is a reason we have the second ammendment and it was a good one.. I am not concerned that the second ammendment will lose it's teeth. Too many support it.

Be concerned, be VERY concerned. Eliminating the 2A is their goal and it will be death by 1000 papercuts.

 

[evenflow1969]

Jerry Clower, a noted comedian, once put forth an observation. Everyone has an ideal, of what a perfect world would be. That idea is unique, and always has one similarity. Everyone’s point of view is that they themselves, are perfect, and if everyone was more like them, the world would be as perfect as humanly possible.

If you all were more like me, then the world would be better, if not perfect. That is arrogance beyond belief. We all know we can be better, and some of us admit we could be much better. We read, watch documentaries and otherwise try and learn. Yet, the more perfect we see ourselves as, the less we need to learn, the less we need to change. Hogg and the students are in their own eyes, perfect. It’s all of us who are wrong. We aren’t as enlightened, as woke as they are.

All of the visions of the future require one other thing. We all have to give up our rights, and our individuality, to conform to their view.

Hogg has no issue with everyone else giving up their rights, be they the first, or second amendment rights. He denigrates NRA and the members, and the people who support the ideals of the NRA while not actually joining. Yet his favorite Amendment is the First, which among other things protects the right of free association. It is actually peaceably assemble, but you get the idea.

We are free to join any group, and advocate for any cause we like. Just as Hogg is. The difference is what those associations hope to gain. For the NRA, and the supporters of the Second Amendment, they are advocating for their rights under the 2nd Amendment. An Amendment that young Mr. Hogg and the Students haven’t ever heard of, or studied apparently.

History is vital. It tells the story of how we got here. The more history you learn, the smarter choices you can make, and this is the key, the more mistakes you can avoid.

Do I want all of you to be like me? No. One of me is plenty. Mr. Hogg has the first amendment right to say any crazy thing he wants. But the lesson Hogg is learning is this. So does everyone else. I would argue to the limit of my ability for Hogg to be able to speak his mind. I would argue the same for anyone, no matter how much I disagree. I know that principle is not unique, it comes from the world history I’ve studied. Voltaire talked about it much. I’ve quoted the principles of St. Augustine more than once on this board.

I believe what I believe, and I have reasons to believe it, not just an idea, or a feeling. I have a foundation for that belief, which is why I am able to write about the subjects I comment on with some ease, because it’s not just a knee jerk reaction, but a considered opinion. I may be wrong according to you, and I may not be as well read as some others, but that is a failing I am still trying to rectify by reading and studying history. A better understanding of how we got to this point, and a better more complete view going forward. With luck, I’ll be smarter than I ever was just as I die, because I never stopped learning.

Hogg and the students demand that we become more like them, because in their views, they are perfect. When I was a kid, there was a bumper sticker my Mother got and put on her car. It said. “Teenagers, move out of your parents house now, while you still know everything.”

I was once young, and arrogant enough to think I knew it all. We all were. My parents tolerated me some, and corrected my erroneous beliefs often. It’s a shame that young Mr. Hogg hasn’t had the advantage of that kind of care from his parents. Because it will make him a better person, even if after he learns what he is talking about, he continues to disagree with me.

Oh, and the only change I’d make if I was in control of the world. I’d call on the people to stop worrying about what everyone else is doing. Focus on your own life, and you’ll probably be a lot happier.

Young is exactly what Mr. Hogg is. His views will change with experience. We have a right to be wrong when we are young. Wrong is what he is, there is a reason we have the second ammendment and it was a good one.. I am not concerned that the second ammendment will lose it's teeth. Too many support it.

Be concerned, be VERY concerned. Eliminating the 2A is their goal and it will be death by 1000 papercuts.

I will take our knowlege and experience over their youthfull enthusasm any day of the week. They will become complacent we will not! You and I will remain for ever vigilant, we know the stakes they do not!

PS Remain vigilant.

 

[Pop23]

Well, young Mr. Hogg seems to think we should embrace stupid ideals that won’t work. You seem to think he is right. The fact that his views are both wrong logically, and he can’t accurately point out what part of the Constitution applies, much less identify the type of Government we have is what makes it stupid. Or do you think he is right?

I'm not even familiar with his comments. Nor certainly would I depend on an echo-chamber parrot site like this to tell me. That's all irrelevant. I'm more interested here in the psychology of attacking, denigrating and dehumanizing victims just because they dare stand up for their own lives.

For literally the entire time I've been on this site (and before) I've been pointing out this firearm fetishism that drives this sicko shit. And y'all fetish-parrots keep on proving me right.

You literally proved the OP is correct. Your response was that you have lost all ability to reason.

Oh look. It's the asscrack who tried to float the turd-premise of some sort of inverse relationship between degree of sexual activity and "credibility" and then couldn't get it to float.

You just won an all-expense paid trip to beautiful Flushing NY.

Oh look. It's asscrack who tried to float the absurd notion that a crime victim should not report a crime once the criminal has left the area.

And he's commenting on what the victims should now do after a crime was committed.

Credibility?, You have no idea how foolish you look.

Oh look. The Butthurt Store™ got restocked, and they's havin' a sale!

Thanks for playin.

Every game has a winner and a pogo.