Holy crap - this has to stop!

[eagle1462010]

There are crazies in every society..............they come in manners..........they come from every side of the equation...................These mental midgets cannot be accounted for in society............

In regards to breeding Hate....................left wing groups funded protesters to disrupt and cause violence in Trump Rallies......Blocked roadways.......

Obama Hyped up Racial Relations and then the BLM movement WENT POSTAL...........burning dang cities down.......................

Under the last administration....................they weaponized the IRS and used it to attack those who didn't agree with them........

The left has no moral high groups to stand on regarding HATEFUL RHETORIC.............they freaking embrace it.

 

[Coyote]

Seriously. This toxic partisan political culture is poisoning civil society.

What the hell is wrong with us?

The left and the right pulling hair and screeching their bumpersticker slogans and broad brush pig ignorant partisan blamegaming? What's wrong with us?

I'm no youngster. I've never seen such a dangerous ambient.

We have someone shooting at one of our few remaining bipartisan non political fun charitable events because he wants to kill a bunch of (insert political party).

The rhetoric flooding the country is poisoning us. And no one wants to take responsibility for stepping up and saying "enough already". For changing it.

Our representatives are colleagues first and foremost. Political opponents second. They recognize it. That violence against one is violence against the others and against our very institutions. Why are we unable to recognize that?

This is cultural now. It's everywhere. It's in everything.

And look at the posts on this board today.

I think Congress gets it, but even if they do, we have a long way to go. Once it's cultural, it's much tougher to fix.
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I hope you're wrong....

 

[Pogo]

Why is Trump not trying to calm things down...instead he will be tweeting about the new leak coming out on his investigation...

Why should he? The left has attacked him and his family. Time for retribution unless the left backs way off.

And the right attacked Obama and his family. What exactly is your point?

Fortunately, Trump, at least momentarily disagreed with you when he spoke on this.

The media and entertainment industry attacked Obama?

Yes - the rightwing media most certainly did and Obama was lampooned in SNL. Not as much as Trump, but the fact is Obama just wasn't as funny. He's kind of boring to pun.

Is he also too boring to shoot at?

Or could it be that the left is at fault here?

HOLY SHIT.

What's "at fault" here is the abject failure of the Composition Fallacy. You just articulated it above, and James Hodgkinson just acted it out. It's the same fucking thing --- don't you GET that???

 

[Coyote]

Why is Trump not trying to calm things down...instead he will be tweeting about the new leak coming out on his investigation...

Why should he? The left has attacked him and his family. Time for retribution unless the left backs way off.

And the right attacked Obama and his family. What exactly is your point?

Fortunately, Trump, at least momentarily disagreed with you when he spoke on this.

The media and entertainment industry attacked Obama?

Yes - the rightwing media most certainly did and Obama was lampooned in SNL. Not as much as Trump, but the fact is Obama just wasn't as funny. He's kind of boring to pun.

Is he also too boring to shoot at?

Or could it be that the left is at fault here?

Assassination threats against Barack Obama - Wikipedia

 

[Rustic]

Seriously. This toxic partisan political culture is poisoning civil society.

What the hell is wrong with us?

The left and the right pulling hair and screeching their bumpersticker slogans and broad brush pig ignorant partisan blamegaming? What's wrong with us?

I'm no youngster. I've never seen such a dangerous ambient.

We have someone shooting at one of our few remaining bipartisan non political fun charitable events because he wants to kill a bunch of (insert political party).

The rhetoric flooding the country is poisoning us. And no one wants to take responsibility for stepping up and saying "enough already". For changing it.

Our representatives are colleagues first and foremost. Political opponents second. They recognize it. That violence against one is violence against the others and against our very institutions. Why are we unable to recognize that?

Single term limits…

 

[ScienceRocks]

It won't stop and there's no way we can ever reason with the republicans on anything.

When they think infrastructure is bad and education for our children needs to be done away with there's really no middle ground. This country is in a lot of trouble.

 

[eagle1462010]

There are crazies in every society..............they come in manners..........they come from every side of the equation...................These mental midgets cannot be accounted for in society............

In regards to breeding Hate....................left wing groups funded protesters to disrupt and cause violence in Trump Rallies......Blocked roadways.......

Obama Hyped up Racial Relations and then the BLM movement WENT POSTAL...........burning dang cities down.......................

Under the last administration....................they weaponized the IRS and used it to attack those who didn't agree with them........

The left has no moral high groups to stand on regarding HATEFUL RHETORIC.............they freaking embrace it.

The first line - right on.

The rest? More of the same that the left dishes out isn't it?

Your damned skippy..................did Obama set back racial relations in this country..............speak into the microphone..............while your at it did they pay protesters during the last election..............while your at it did they target conservative groups with the IRS...................

That is pushing anarchy.............

 

[OKTexas]

Seriously. This toxic partisan political culture is poisoning civil society.

What the hell is wrong with us?

The left and the right pulling hair and screeching their bumpersticker slogans and broad brush pig ignorant partisan blamegaming? What's wrong with us?

I'm no youngster. I've never seen such a dangerous ambient.

We have someone shooting at one of our few remaining bipartisan non political fun charitable events because he wants to kill a bunch of (insert political party).

The rhetoric flooding the country is poisoning us. And no one wants to take responsibility for stepping up and saying "enough already". For changing it.

Our representatives are colleagues first and foremost. Political opponents second. They recognize it. That violence against one is violence against the others and against our very institutions. Why are we unable to recognize that?

What can you expect when leftist claim republican policies are going to kill people and that narrative is pushed by a complicit media? People that disagree with the left are portrayed as evil and a personal danger, not just wrong. It all goes back the the leftist policies adopted from the Rules For Radicals, that instructs people to isolate and destroy the opposition by any means necessary. Your dear leader taught and I'm very sure is still teaching that ideology.


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[Norman]

Why should he? The left has attacked him and his family. Time for retribution unless the left backs way off.

And the right attacked Obama and his family. What exactly is your point?

Fortunately, Trump, at least momentarily disagreed with you when he spoke on this.

The media and entertainment industry attacked Obama?

Yes - the rightwing media most certainly did and Obama was lampooned in SNL. Not as much as Trump, but the fact is Obama just wasn't as funny. He's kind of boring to pun.

Is he also too boring to shoot at?

Or could it be that the left is at fault here?

HOLY SHIT.

What's "at fault" here is the abject failure of the Composition Fallacy. You just articulated it above, and James Hodgkinson just acted it out. It's the same fucking thing --- don't you GET that???

The good old "not all".

Come back when half the leftist media is not advocating for Trump's assassination.

 

[Coyote]

Seriously. This toxic partisan political culture is poisoning civil society.

What the hell is wrong with us?

The left and the right pulling hair and screeching their bumpersticker slogans and broad brush pig ignorant partisan blamegaming? What's wrong with us?

I'm no youngster. I've never seen such a dangerous ambient.

We have someone shooting at one of our few remaining bipartisan non political fun charitable events because he wants to kill a bunch of (insert political party).

The rhetoric flooding the country is poisoning us. And no one wants to take responsibility for stepping up and saying "enough already". For changing it.

Our representatives are colleagues first and foremost. Political opponents second. They recognize it. That violence against one is violence against the others and against our very institutions. Why are we unable to recognize that?

Single term limits…

No...two terms is good. One really isn't enough. I'm ok with two term limits.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yes people do need to listen... but there is a reason why people often don't listen, and that's because many cops still follow a militaristic style and use profiling to stop people, which then causes the people they stop to not trust the cops and not listen.

If a person is stopped because of profiling, how would they know that? Yes, they do use militaristic styles to get people to listen and understand they mean business. If you don't agree with a police officers demands or attitude, you take that up after the fact, not during. You can file a complaint with the officers supervisor. You can contact the Mayor of that city. You can contact your local news media. But what you don't do is challenge the officer in the street. That's what gets people killed.

If you don't listen to the orders of a police officer, it's nobody's fault but your own. If you are harmed because you didn't listen to the orders of the officer, you brought that upon yourself.

 

[Marion Morrison]

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And a perfect example of what I was talking about...

The HATE is on your side. You (collectively) get these nuts worked into a frenzy of hate until one of them thinks he's doing God's service. This is on you. Live with it.

No need to be attacking Coyote. She is not hating anyone........not to mention that hate is coming from all sides.

It's never going to change until we - the people on the ground - decide that THEY the people purporting to have an ideology in common with us - are going to far. You don't joke or make effigies about killing the president. You don't demonize the other side so much that nutters take that as permission to do something about it.

Somebody posting something stupid like that on the internet doesn't get around much. But teachers, actors and yes, so-called comedians get to a lot of people.

Hate is one thing and promoting violence is another.

The hanging effigies weren't internet pranks.

They also weren't perpetrated by famous comedians, actors, and artists, i.e. :

High profile people in the spotlight.

 

[Coyote]

Seriously. This toxic partisan political culture is poisoning civil society.

What the hell is wrong with us?

The left and the right pulling hair and screeching their bumpersticker slogans and broad brush pig ignorant partisan blamegaming? What's wrong with us?

I'm no youngster. I've never seen such a dangerous ambient.

We have someone shooting at one of our few remaining bipartisan non political fun charitable events because he wants to kill a bunch of (insert political party).

The rhetoric flooding the country is poisoning us. And no one wants to take responsibility for stepping up and saying "enough already". For changing it.

Our representatives are colleagues first and foremost. Political opponents second. They recognize it. That violence against one is violence against the others and against our very institutions. Why are we unable to recognize that?

What can you expect when leftist claim republican policies are going to kill people and that narrative is pushed by a complicit media? People that disagree with the left are portrayed as evil and a personal danger, not just wrong. It all goes back the the leftist policies adopted from the Rules For Radicals, that instructs people to isolate and destroy the opposition by any means necessary. Your dear leader taught and I'm very sure is still teaching that ideology.


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Does the term "Death Panels" ring a bell?

 

[Norman]

Why should he? The left has attacked him and his family. Time for retribution unless the left backs way off.

And the right attacked Obama and his family. What exactly is your point?

Fortunately, Trump, at least momentarily disagreed with you when he spoke on this.

The media and entertainment industry attacked Obama?

Yes - the rightwing media most certainly did and Obama was lampooned in SNL. Not as much as Trump, but the fact is Obama just wasn't as funny. He's kind of boring to pun.

Is he also too boring to shoot at?

Or could it be that the left is at fault here?

Assassination threats against Barack Obama - Wikipedia

Everyone receives threats. However, when bullets are actually flying and hitting the targets, I hope you understand, it no longer qualifies as merely a "threat".

 

[eagle1462010]

It won't stop and there's no way we can ever reason with the republicans on anything.

When they think infrastructure is bad and education for our children needs to be done away with there's really no middle ground. This country is in a lot of trouble.

Outright nonsense................our side knows that much of our infrastructure needs repair...........but we don't trust the political hacks in the Government with money to fix it anymore.......every time money is allocated they waste the living hell out of it.

We spend more on education than ANY COUNTRY ON EARTH...........with shitty results.........................at which point will you understand that throwing more money at it might not fix the problem.....................because we throw more money at it than the rest of the world............common core...........the DUMBING DOWN OF A NATION.

 

[Rustic]

Seriously. This toxic partisan political culture is poisoning civil society.

What the hell is wrong with us?

The left and the right pulling hair and screeching their bumpersticker slogans and broad brush pig ignorant partisan blamegaming? What's wrong with us?

I'm no youngster. I've never seen such a dangerous ambient.

We have someone shooting at one of our few remaining bipartisan non political fun charitable events because he wants to kill a bunch of (insert political party).

The rhetoric flooding the country is poisoning us. And no one wants to take responsibility for stepping up and saying "enough already". For changing it.

Our representatives are colleagues first and foremost. Political opponents second. They recognize it. That violence against one is violence against the others and against our very institutions. Why are we unable to recognize that?

Single term limits…

No...two terms is good. One really isn't enough. I'm ok with two term limits.

Washington DC makes a good person bad in short order... and pits urban people against rural people.
And make the 10th amendment more powerful…

 

[eagle1462010]

Seriously. This toxic partisan political culture is poisoning civil society.

What the hell is wrong with us?

The left and the right pulling hair and screeching their bumpersticker slogans and broad brush pig ignorant partisan blamegaming? What's wrong with us?

I'm no youngster. I've never seen such a dangerous ambient.

We have someone shooting at one of our few remaining bipartisan non political fun charitable events because he wants to kill a bunch of (insert political party).

The rhetoric flooding the country is poisoning us. And no one wants to take responsibility for stepping up and saying "enough already". For changing it.

Our representatives are colleagues first and foremost. Political opponents second. They recognize it. That violence against one is violence against the others and against our very institutions. Why are we unable to recognize that?

What can you expect when leftist claim republican policies are going to kill people and that narrative is pushed by a complicit media? People that disagree with the left are portrayed as evil and a personal danger, not just wrong. It all goes back the the leftist policies adopted from the Rules For Radicals, that instructs people to isolate and destroy the opposition by any means necessary. Your dear leader taught and I'm very sure is still teaching that ideology.


.

Does the term "Death Panels" ring a bell?

If they American people really wanted and were happy with Obamacare.........the Dems wouldn't have lost the Senate, Congress and White House now would they.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

And a perfect example of what I was talking about...

The HATE is on your side. You (collectively) get these nuts worked into a frenzy of hate until one of them thinks he's doing God's service. This is on you. Live with it.

No need to be attacking Coyote. She is not hating anyone........not to mention that hate is coming from all sides.

No it really isn't.
The rights anger is the result of constant attacks from the left in the form of media and lefty political lies.
You stop and it all goes away.

And the right's lies against the left? You keep that going eh?

Give me some of that evidence of Trump Russian collusion.
You Fucks are the king of fake news.

 

[Lewdog]

Yes people do need to listen... but there is a reason why people often don't listen, and that's because many cops still follow a militaristic style and use profiling to stop people, which then causes the people they stop to not trust the cops and not listen.

If a person is stopped because of profiling, how would they know that? Yes, they do use militaristic styles to get people to listen and understand they mean business. If you don't agree with a police officers demands or attitude, you take that up after the fact, not during. You can file a complaint with the officers supervisor. You can contact the Mayor of that city. You can contact your local news media. But what you don't do is challenge the officer in the street. That's what gets people killed.

If you don't listen to the orders of a police officer, it's nobody's fault but your own. If you are harmed because you didn't listen to the orders of the officer, you brought that upon yourself.

If you are a white middle class male you have no way of understanding the anger a person gets when they are pulled over or stopped on the street by a law enforcement official by profiling.

You also don't understand the difference between military style and professionalism. And no, no unarmed person deserves to be killed by a cop for questioning a cop's motives. There are too many less than lethal alternatives out there for that to happen as often as it does. Almost every cop these days not only carries a gun, but a taser as well.

I saw a startling statistic the other day. Do you have any idea how many unarmed people have been killed by cops in the entire country of Iceland in its history? 1.

I'm all about police officer safety... I've always defended police officers and how dangerous the job is. Hell the most dangerous calls for a police officer to respond to isn't a robbery, or an assault, it's a domestic disturbance. Hell, look at the Keyhoe Brothers traffic stop in Ohio year's ago and recent ambush shootings, but something has to change, and that change is that Law Enforcement officers have to become professional, fair, and just... and in turn more people will regain trust in them and start to respond better.

If you REALLY care about the situation, you'll read more and do more actual research instead of just getting pissed on a forum. This is a much deeper subject than you realize.

 

[Lewdog]

And the right attacked Obama and his family. What exactly is your point?

Fortunately, Trump, at least momentarily disagreed with you when he spoke on this.

The media and entertainment industry attacked Obama?

Yes - the rightwing media most certainly did and Obama was lampooned in SNL. Not as much as Trump, but the fact is Obama just wasn't as funny. He's kind of boring to pun.

Is he also too boring to shoot at?

Or could it be that the left is at fault here?

Assassination threats against Barack Obama - Wikipedia

Everyone receives threats. However, when bullets are actually flying and hitting the targets, I hope you understand, it no longer qualifies as merely a "threat".

People shot at the White House while Obama was there...