Holy crap - this has to stop!

[francoHFW]

Bruce, I swear you're flirting with the old teacher lady. We love to hear that stuff, ya know.

What I see happening lately (and I admit I've only been here one and a half years and didn't pay that much attention to anything political prior to that) is that people are stepping up the ante and suddenly being so blinded that they can't see or hear the person on the other end of their message. Look at what happened with me and TN. Suddenly I'm disingenuous and partisan--because I believe about global warming and the Paris Accords what 98% of the world believes. He's lost his shit because I don't agree with him. Did I call him dishonest and partisan over trannies in the bathroom? Or Lincoln committing war crimes? Wrongheaded, sure, but it doesn't warrant impugning one's integrity.
Politics is making us mental. I doubt if this latest discharge of a fucking GUN will do any more than when Giffords was shot. Everyone tried calling for a return to civility then, too, but obviously that didn't work. Maybe we just need to remember there is another human being on the other end of our messages.

You're taking the first steps to an open mind, kudos. The Left/Right paradigm is a construct, it has one purpose, division. I have been politically aware since the 70's, I've never seen anything like this.

I like to think I've always had an open mind. Well, maybe not in my 20's; thought I pretty much knew everything back then.
I have never seen anything like this, either, but there have always been two opposing points of view about how to manage the problems in this country and how to make the country richer, more secure. What's happening now is extreme inflammation from all quarters and I've been saying this since I joined this board -- it is certainly at least partly orchestrated by enemies of this country. There are posters here whose mission is to sow and fuel division. They don't have accents, either. Some of the agitators that get the protests started and the riots started? It's not all homegrown discontent. I am sure of this. Any real American needs to remember that we are Americans first.

I travel extensively and everywhere I go people say the same thing, "There is something wrong". I agree with you, there are both outside and inside influences causing this. I am a chronic researcher. The money drives everything, there is a reason Ike didn't run for a second term and a reason JFK died.

Ike served 2 terms, dunce. JFK died because he was shot by a nut.

JFK was shot because he didn't toe the line. You are a troll. Did you "Like Ike"?

You think Ike didn't run for a second term. You are clueless, conspiracy nutjob. The Dems would have been better- Ike should have chosen them. Got duped like all GOPers- but nothing like today- a total disgrace.

 

[WEATHER53]

Conservatives are good at accepting responsibility. Its a core of their success
Liberals are good at deflecting responsibility and deferring to emotions via blaming. It's a core of their failure

 

[OldLady]

You can always count on the Rev. Moon Times and other New BS GOP propaganda rags and garbage internet media to come up with the worst hate bs character assassination and fake news about Dems. Dems have nothing like it, dupes. In dupe world, their fact checking operations are commie fronts, all financed by the Nazi Soros. And Commies and Nazis are all leftists! Poor America. But truth will out...
surge of violence since Trump - Google Search

There has been a surge of violence, all perpetrated by you Nazi scum on behalf of your Fuhrer. Your Fuhrer Soros is an evil fucker ruling over the most evil party since the Khmer Rouge.

He's a rich old man who gives his $$$ to charity. Unlike your rich old man who uses his to hoodwink people and get as many dollars from them as he can.

No. Soro's makes his money shorting currencies and bringing down Nations. I urge you to look up Fabian Socialism. That's what he is.

A VERY successful hedge fund manager and a huge believer in truth and democracy, dupe. Which makes him very unpopular with your lying, cheating billionaire GOP heroes...

Nope dupe, he makes his money bringing Nations down. Had you been a Jew in the 30's he'd have turned you in. If you want some of my money come get it. Otherwise shut the fuck up.

That Jew thing is totally unfair and not even accurate. Look into what really happened and then honestly put yourself in his shoes and decide if you should be judging him. I have no idea what you mean by "bringing nations down" but if it's as accurate as the Jew comment, it's not something I'm going to worry about.
I have to go, but the next time I'm on, I'll see if you could enlighten me about the nations he's brought down (I just hope to God it doesn't have much to do with economics. Keep it simple)

 

[Divine Wind]

Seriously. This toxic partisan political culture is poisoning civil society.

What the hell is wrong with us?

The left and the right pulling hair and screeching their bumpersticker slogans and broad brush pig ignorant partisan blamegaming? What's wrong with us?

I'm no youngster. I've never seen such a dangerous ambient.

We have someone shooting at one of our few remaining bipartisan non political fun charitable events because he wants to kill a bunch of (insert political party).

The rhetoric flooding the country is poisoning us. And no one wants to take responsibility for stepping up and saying "enough already". For changing it.

Our representatives are colleagues first and foremost. Political opponents second. They recognize it. That violence against one is violence against the others and against our very institutions. Why are we unable to recognize that?

We're at the end of a cycle where two political sides have moved to extremes....as responses to your OP prove. A few more tragedies and "We, the People" AKA the Silent Majority will demand the return of reason to our nation's politics and elected leadership.

 

[francoHFW]

Conservatives are good at accepting responsibility. Its a core of their success
Liberals are good at deflecting responsibility and deferring to emotions via blaming. It's a core of their failure

Sure. For example, Boooshies had nothing to do with the world depression in 2008. It was Carter's and Clinton's fault. lol.

 

[francoHFW]

Seriously. This toxic partisan political culture is poisoning civil society.

What the hell is wrong with us?

The left and the right pulling hair and screeching their bumpersticker slogans and broad brush pig ignorant partisan blamegaming? What's wrong with us?

I'm no youngster. I've never seen such a dangerous ambient.

We have someone shooting at one of our few remaining bipartisan non political fun charitable events because he wants to kill a bunch of (insert political party).

The rhetoric flooding the country is poisoning us. And no one wants to take responsibility for stepping up and saying "enough already". For changing it.

Our representatives are colleagues first and foremost. Political opponents second. They recognize it. That violence against one is violence against the others and against our very institutions. Why are we unable to recognize that?

We're at the end of a cycle where two political sides have moved to extremes....as responses to your OP prove. A few more tragedies and "We, the People" AKA the Silent Majority will demand the return of reason to our nation's politics and elected leadership.

Only the bought off, brainwashed New BS GOP is extreme. The Dems are in the center, accused of being communists AND Nazis by the dupes. Scary. Coyote and our cowardly corporate "librul" media are just too nice. The RW is totally misinformed and out of control. And, luckily being revealed by the Orange Numbskull con man. This is the peak of their power- they're coming unglued...

 

[Old Rocks]

Well, the beginning of that return would be for certain people to stop talking about how they would like to use their arsenals on people of opposite opinions. That kind of thing gives legitamacy to the crazies on both sides doing just that.

 

[Coyote]

Dudes - cool it. Right now. Get on topic or get chucked into the kiddie garten pool.

 

[francoHFW]

That reminds me of Republican snowflakes during Obama who talked about secession. Remember that? That kind of talk gets people riled up too

That's stupid. People talking of secession, such as California, is light years from cold blooded murder.

Like all those posters of Obama being hung...This guy was nuts. And the militias taking over state park buildings and fighting Forest Rangers, blowing up Ok City? They're all nuts, the assassins/bombers.

 

[Divine Wind]

Seriously. This toxic partisan political culture is poisoning civil society.

What the hell is wrong with us?

The left and the right pulling hair and screeching their bumpersticker slogans and broad brush pig ignorant partisan blamegaming? What's wrong with us?

I'm no youngster. I've never seen such a dangerous ambient.

We have someone shooting at one of our few remaining bipartisan non political fun charitable events because he wants to kill a bunch of (insert political party).

The rhetoric flooding the country is poisoning us. And no one wants to take responsibility for stepping up and saying "enough already". For changing it.

Our representatives are colleagues first and foremost. Political opponents second. They recognize it. That violence against one is violence against the others and against our very institutions. Why are we unable to recognize that?

We're at the end of a cycle where two political sides have moved to extremes....as responses to your OP prove. A few more tragedies and "We, the People" AKA the Silent Majority will demand the return of reason to our nation's politics and elected leadership.

Only the bought off, brainwashed New BS GOP is extreme. The Dems are in the center, accused of being communists AND Nazis by the dupes. Scary. Coyote and our cowardly corporate "librul" media are just too nice. The RW is totally misinformed and out of control. And, luckily being revealed by the Orange Numbskull con man. This is the peak of their power- they're coming unglued...

You, sir, just exemplified my point. Extremists fail to see the middle. They always blame "the other guy" for the problems our nation is facing. You, sir, are no more representative of the "center" than Francisco Franco or Joseph Stalin.

 

[francoHFW]

Seriously. This toxic partisan political culture is poisoning civil society.

What the hell is wrong with us?

The left and the right pulling hair and screeching their bumpersticker slogans and broad brush pig ignorant partisan blamegaming? What's wrong with us?

I'm no youngster. I've never seen such a dangerous ambient.

We have someone shooting at one of our few remaining bipartisan non political fun charitable events because he wants to kill a bunch of (insert political party).

The rhetoric flooding the country is poisoning us. And no one wants to take responsibility for stepping up and saying "enough already". For changing it.

Our representatives are colleagues first and foremost. Political opponents second. They recognize it. That violence against one is violence against the others and against our very institutions. Why are we unable to recognize that?

We're at the end of a cycle where two political sides have moved to extremes....as responses to your OP prove. A few more tragedies and "We, the People" AKA the Silent Majority will demand the return of reason to our nation's politics and elected leadership.

Only the bought off, brainwashed New BS GOP is extreme. The Dems are in the center, accused of being communists AND Nazis by the dupes. Scary. Coyote and our cowardly corporate "librul" media are just too nice. The RW is totally misinformed and out of control. And, luckily being revealed by the Orange Numbskull con man. This is the peak of their power- they're coming unglued...

You, sir, just exemplified my point. Extremists fail to see the middle. They always blame "the other guy" for the problems our nation is facing. You, sir, are no more representative of the "center" than Francisco Franco or Joseph Stalin.

Sure, superdupe. I'm for Democracy and truth. Which neither of them wanted. I lived in Franco's Spain. Plenty of RWer Brits loved it- who cares about the peasants- it's safe.. I suppose he was a socialist too, like Hitler. lol

 

[Divine Wind]

That reminds me of Republican snowflakes during Obama who talked about secession. Remember that? That kind of talk gets people riled up too

That's stupid. People talking of secession, such as California, is light years from cold blooded murder.

Agreed, but even secession or any other break-up of the United States shows a high degree of extremism. The fact remains, although they often have different takes on it, both sides have moved to extremes and, consequently more authoritarian. The finger-pointing/blame-game has to stop. To stop it requires each side to voluntarily back away from the heated rhetoric.

 

[Divine Wind]

Seriously. This toxic partisan political culture is poisoning civil society.

What the hell is wrong with us?

The left and the right pulling hair and screeching their bumpersticker slogans and broad brush pig ignorant partisan blamegaming? What's wrong with us?

I'm no youngster. I've never seen such a dangerous ambient.

We have someone shooting at one of our few remaining bipartisan non political fun charitable events because he wants to kill a bunch of (insert political party).

The rhetoric flooding the country is poisoning us. And no one wants to take responsibility for stepping up and saying "enough already". For changing it.

Our representatives are colleagues first and foremost. Political opponents second. They recognize it. That violence against one is violence against the others and against our very institutions. Why are we unable to recognize that?

We're at the end of a cycle where two political sides have moved to extremes....as responses to your OP prove. A few more tragedies and "We, the People" AKA the Silent Majority will demand the return of reason to our nation's politics and elected leadership.

Only the bought off, brainwashed New BS GOP is extreme. The Dems are in the center, accused of being communists AND Nazis by the dupes. Scary. Coyote and our cowardly corporate "librul" media are just too nice. The RW is totally misinformed and out of control. And, luckily being revealed by the Orange Numbskull con man. This is the peak of their power- they're coming unglued...

You, sir, just exemplified my point. Extremists fail to see the middle. They always blame "the other guy" for the problems our nation is facing. You, sir, are no more representative of the "center" than Francisco Franco or Joseph Stalin.

Sure, superdupe. I'm for Democracy and truth. Which neither of them wanted. I lived in Franco's Spain. Plenty of RWer Brits loved it- who cares about the peasants- it's safe.. I suppose he was a socialist too, like Hitler. lol

Yes, Franco was a Fascist and Stalin was a Totalitarian Socialist; the point being is that both were extremists and totalitarian AKA dictating to citizens how to live, what to think and what to believe.

 

[francoHFW]

Seriously. This toxic partisan political culture is poisoning civil society.

What the hell is wrong with us?

The left and the right pulling hair and screeching their bumpersticker slogans and broad brush pig ignorant partisan blamegaming? What's wrong with us?

I'm no youngster. I've never seen such a dangerous ambient.

We have someone shooting at one of our few remaining bipartisan non political fun charitable events because he wants to kill a bunch of (insert political party).

The rhetoric flooding the country is poisoning us. And no one wants to take responsibility for stepping up and saying "enough already". For changing it.

Our representatives are colleagues first and foremost. Political opponents second. They recognize it. That violence against one is violence against the others and against our very institutions. Why are we unable to recognize that?

We're at the end of a cycle where two political sides have moved to extremes....as responses to your OP prove. A few more tragedies and "We, the People" AKA the Silent Majority will demand the return of reason to our nation's politics and elected leadership.

Only the bought off, brainwashed New BS GOP is extreme. The Dems are in the center, accused of being communists AND Nazis by the dupes. Scary. Coyote and our cowardly corporate "librul" media are just too nice. The RW is totally misinformed and out of control. And, luckily being revealed by the Orange Numbskull con man. This is the peak of their power- they're coming unglued...

You, sir, just exemplified my point. Extremists fail to see the middle. They always blame "the other guy" for the problems our nation is facing. You, sir, are no more representative of the "center" than Francisco Franco or Joseph Stalin.

I am the middle. You believe a pile of bs propaganda and pander to the rich RW misinformation.

 

[Billo_Really]

Democrats are hell-bent on destroying this administration.

Any rational person can see it on this board.

Do you think this Administration has done anything to destroy itself?

 

[koshergrl]

Seriously. This toxic partisan political culture is poisoning civil society.

What the hell is wrong with us?

The left and the right pulling hair and screeching their bumpersticker slogans and broad brush pig ignorant partisan blamegaming? What's wrong with us?

I'm no youngster. I've never seen such a dangerous ambient.

We have someone shooting at one of our few remaining bipartisan non political fun charitable events because he wants to kill a bunch of (insert political party).

The rhetoric flooding the country is poisoning us. And no one wants to take responsibility for stepping up and saying "enough already". For changing it.

Our representatives are colleagues first and foremost. Political opponents second. They recognize it. That violence against one is violence against the others and against our very institutions. Why are we unable to recognize that?

We're at the end of a cycle where two political sides have moved to extremes....as responses to your OP prove. A few more tragedies and "We, the People" AKA the Silent Majority will demand the return of reason to our nation's politics and elected leadership.

Only the bought off, brainwashed New BS GOP is extreme. The Dems are in the center, accused of being communists AND Nazis by the dupes. Scary. Coyote and our cowardly corporate "librul" media are just too nice. The RW is totally misinformed and out of control. And, luckily being revealed by the Orange Numbskull con man. This is the peak of their power- they're coming unglued...

You, sir, just exemplified my point. Extremists fail to see the middle. They always blame "the other guy" for the problems our nation is facing. You, sir, are no more representative of the "center" than Francisco Franco or Joseph Stalin.

I am the middle. You believe a pile of bs propaganda and pander to the rich RW misinformation.

No, you aren't. You're a lying lefty extremist.

 

[Divine Wind]

Conservatives are good at accepting responsibility. Its a core of their success
Liberals are good at deflecting responsibility and deferring to emotions via blaming. It's a core of their failure

Yet it's "conservatives" who are advocating "wanding" women's vaginas and dictating who can be married or not. How is that letting people live free?

 

[francoHFW]

That reminds me of Republican snowflakes during Obama who talked about secession. Remember that? That kind of talk gets people riled up too

That's stupid. People talking of secession, such as California, is light years from cold blooded murder.

Agreed, but even secession or any other break-up of the United States shows a high degree of extremism. The fact remains, although they often have different takes on it, both sides have moved to extremes and, consequently more authoritarian. The finger-pointing/blame-game has to stop. To stop it requires each side to voluntarily back away from the heated rhetoric.

Tell us what Dems sound like Rush Limbaugh, Savage, Sean, Alex Jones etc etc with so much hate and misinformation the last 30 years....Your propaganda hate machine is a disgrace...and you dupes.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Sure, superdupe. I'm for Democracy and truth. Which neither of them wanted. I lived in Franco's Spain. Plenty of RWer Brits loved it- who cares about the peasants- it's safe.. I suppose he was a socialist too, like Hitler. lol

Did Franco (who I assume you took your forum name from) promote a free market economy, fascist franco? Or was it a command economy just like you demand for America, Nazi boi?

 

[francoHFW]

Seriously. This toxic partisan political culture is poisoning civil society.

What the hell is wrong with us?

The left and the right pulling hair and screeching their bumpersticker slogans and broad brush pig ignorant partisan blamegaming? What's wrong with us?

I'm no youngster. I've never seen such a dangerous ambient.

We have someone shooting at one of our few remaining bipartisan non political fun charitable events because he wants to kill a bunch of (insert political party).

The rhetoric flooding the country is poisoning us. And no one wants to take responsibility for stepping up and saying "enough already". For changing it.

Our representatives are colleagues first and foremost. Political opponents second. They recognize it. That violence against one is violence against the others and against our very institutions. Why are we unable to recognize that?

We're at the end of a cycle where two political sides have moved to extremes....as responses to your OP prove. A few more tragedies and "We, the People" AKA the Silent Majority will demand the return of reason to our nation's politics and elected leadership.

Only the bought off, brainwashed New BS GOP is extreme. The Dems are in the center, accused of being communists AND Nazis by the dupes. Scary. Coyote and our cowardly corporate "librul" media are just too nice. The RW is totally misinformed and out of control. And, luckily being revealed by the Orange Numbskull con man. This is the peak of their power- they're coming unglued...

You, sir, just exemplified my point. Extremists fail to see the middle. They always blame "the other guy" for the problems our nation is facing. You, sir, are no more representative of the "center" than Francisco Franco or Joseph Stalin.

I am the middle. You believe a pile of bs propaganda and pander to the rich RW misinformation.

No, you aren't. You're a lying lefty extremist.

Name a lie I believe. You- Obama had 2 years of control and caused this, lock her up, ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc.
I'm sorry- dupes are lovely people- but I can't take their lazy, ignorant, careless, stupid politics a minute longer. Sorry