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You deny reality and claim you never saw what happened, that tells me you are a blazing fucking LIAR.

Oh really. I'm supposed to just sit here and take your word for it that something you claim to have seen six years ago, I somehow must have seen too.

Go learn how to read --- I just said that I have zero recollection of anything like that. Do you understand what that means? Are you going to read my mind now and prove how I do have such a recollection?

Freaking idiot.

Etherion -- you watching this shit? He just called me a "blazing fucking LIAR". Sic 'em!

And for the record, Loughner was criminally insane. He was so far gone politics had nothing to do with why he tried to blow Gabby Giffords' brains out and go on a killing spree.


Actually, we don't know when he became criminally insane....but as far as politics having nothing to do with it.....the jury is out on that.

Did you know about this?

    1. Research turned up an Obama-Loughner link: Obama and Ayers shunted funds to support Maoist Michael Klonsky. In 1991 Klonsky and Ayers co-founded a project known as the "Small Schools Workshop" (SSW); the teacher preaching the “social justice” gospel that American capitalism is a racist, materialist, imperialist cauldron of injustice can have greater impact on the students he seeks to mold into his conception of the “good citizen” — and on the teachers he is teaching to be preachers. Another Communist in Obama’s Orb - Andrew C. McCarthy - National Review Online .
    2. During his formative high school years, Jarod Lee Loughner attended the Mountain View High School, in Arizona…a school whose curriculum was designed by Mike Klonsky, friend and associate of Bill Ayers and Barack Obama… Shooting suspect?s nihilism rose with isolation - Herald News

"Educated" by the Left, in schools funded by the snake, Obama....yet the NYTimes tried to link it to the Right.
LOLOL

Yet more typical rightarded nonsense from PoliticalHack. :rolleyes:

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?
Loughner should have been institutionalized long before he killed anybody.

So should you.


In Ugly's case, the appropriate institution would be a zoo.
 
Oh really. I'm supposed to just sit here and take your word for it that something you claim to have seen six years ago, I somehow must have seen too.

Go learn how to read --- I just said that I have zero recollection of anything like that. Do you understand what that means? Are you going to read my mind now and prove how I do have such a recollection?

Freaking idiot.

Etherion -- you watching this shit? He just called me a "blazing fucking LIAR". Sic 'em!

And for the record, Loughner was criminally insane. He was so far gone politics had nothing to do with why he tried to blow Gabby Giffords' brains out and go on a killing spree.


Actually, we don't know when he became criminally insane....but as far as politics having nothing to do with it.....the jury is out on that.

Did you know about this?

    1. Research turned up an Obama-Loughner link: Obama and Ayers shunted funds to support Maoist Michael Klonsky. In 1991 Klonsky and Ayers co-founded a project known as the "Small Schools Workshop" (SSW); the teacher preaching the “social justice” gospel that American capitalism is a racist, materialist, imperialist cauldron of injustice can have greater impact on the students he seeks to mold into his conception of the “good citizen” — and on the teachers he is teaching to be preachers. Another Communist in Obama’s Orb - Andrew C. McCarthy - National Review Online .
    2. During his formative high school years, Jarod Lee Loughner attended the Mountain View High School, in Arizona…a school whose curriculum was designed by Mike Klonsky, friend and associate of Bill Ayers and Barack Obama… Shooting suspect?s nihilism rose with isolation - Herald News

"Educated" by the Left, in schools funded by the snake, Obama....yet the NYTimes tried to link it to the Right.
LOLOL

Yet more typical rightarded nonsense from PoliticalHack. :rolleyes:

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?
Loughner should have been institutionalized long before he killed anybody.

So should you.


In Ugly's case, the appropriate institution would be a zoo.
As typical for you, all lies and/or invective -- but no answers...

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?
 
Congressmen (including da wimmens) actually represent their constituents fairly well.

Attacking them is attacking the wrong people. It was bad when that blond woman got shot and it's bad now.

The "Free Press" is over there pouring gas on the flames, too.

The press needs reigned in. For real.
The free press, that is the news media is just a reflection of what their readers want. A media news business is just like any other business. It survives by producing a product that customers want. If listeners can't get what they want from Rush Limbaugh or Rachel Meadows they will create a demand that will be filled by someone else. The internet has made it all but impossible to control the media. You can bet if there was way Trump could control mainstream media, he would certainly do it.



False.
Amazon’s Jeff Bezos Bought The Washington Post
Anti-American Sulzberger guides the NYTimes, with funding from Mexican Carlos Slim.

Profit means very little to these three, and they have weaponized their papers to use against Trump.

You should be more careful in your posts, try to be more accurate.
Profit may or may not be important to Bezos but readership certainly is. Newspapers that loose circulation loose advertising. A paper that operates as such looses legitimacy and creditably which is probably the reason Bezos bought the Post. I seriously doubt he will change anything other than providing a solid financial base, something the Post has not had in many years. It should continue to be a center left paper ranking in the top 10 in the country for circulation, Pulitzers and revenue.
 
And a perfect example of what I was talking about...
See, you don't get it.

What is happening is that the NORMAL population is completely fed up with the insanity of the depraved left. The rubber is meeting the road, and the left is freaking out. For decades they have been molly coddled, told they don't have to work, told they are disabled if they are lazy, and further told that there is no stigma to living off other people like the parasites they are. For a half century, wall eyed head spinning schizophrenics have been told that society must adjust to THEM and that their perceptions dictate reality, and that if they don't like what people say, they can stomp their feet and have that person silenced.

It's over. The social experiment failed. Now we're going to have to clean up all the offal that moved in.
The normal population? Exactly what do you mean by normal?
What do you think I mean?

The ones that don't advocate baby killing, tree worship, drug use, and sexual depravity of all forms.

The sane people.

lol........ trump was very much an advocate for freedom of choice until he wanted to be prez. he was also the epitome of sexual depravity.... the vile creature had no problem with admitting to grabbing women by the pussy & that is probably the least of it just ask those russian hookers who gave him his golden shower.

Q. How many times can Progressive fall for the same Flaming Bag of Pooh trick?
 
And for the record, Loughner was criminally insane. He was so far gone politics had nothing to do with why he tried to blow Gabby Giffords' brains out and go on a killing spree.


Actually, we don't know when he became criminally insane....but as far as politics having nothing to do with it.....the jury is out on that.

Did you know about this?

    1. Research turned up an Obama-Loughner link: Obama and Ayers shunted funds to support Maoist Michael Klonsky. In 1991 Klonsky and Ayers co-founded a project known as the "Small Schools Workshop" (SSW); the teacher preaching the “social justice” gospel that American capitalism is a racist, materialist, imperialist cauldron of injustice can have greater impact on the students he seeks to mold into his conception of the “good citizen” — and on the teachers he is teaching to be preachers. Another Communist in Obama’s Orb - Andrew C. McCarthy - National Review Online .
    2. During his formative high school years, Jarod Lee Loughner attended the Mountain View High School, in Arizona…a school whose curriculum was designed by Mike Klonsky, friend and associate of Bill Ayers and Barack Obama… Shooting suspect?s nihilism rose with isolation - Herald News

"Educated" by the Left, in schools funded by the snake, Obama....yet the NYTimes tried to link it to the Right.
LOLOL

Yet more typical rightarded nonsense from PoliticalHack. :rolleyes:

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?
Loughner should have been institutionalized long before he killed anybody.

So should you.


In Ugly's case, the appropriate institution would be a zoo.
As typical for you, all lies and/or invective -- but no answers...

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?



Proving you to be a low-life moron has become tedious.

Everyone just witnessed another victim of Leftwing propaganda inspiring violence and murder

a. James T. Hodgkinson produced quotes almost exactly from Bernie Sander's speeches on Facebook
b. He then takes the quotes literally....and makes a list of Republicans to kill.
c. Now you have the gall to demand exactly how Jarod Lee Loughner had been bent by years in a communist-organized high school paid for by Hussein Obama.
You just saw the cause and effect, you imbecile.
d. You remain as ugly on the inside as you are on the outside.
 
Congressmen (including da wimmens) actually represent their constituents fairly well.

Attacking them is attacking the wrong people. It was bad when that blond woman got shot and it's bad now.

The "Free Press" is over there pouring gas on the flames, too.

The press needs reigned in. For real.
The free press, that is the news media is just a reflection of what their readers want. A media news business is just like any other business. It survives by producing a product that customers want. If listeners can't get what they want from Rush Limbaugh or Rachel Meadows they will create a demand that will be filled by someone else. The internet has made it all but impossible to control the media. You can bet if there was way Trump could control mainstream media, he would certainly do it.



False.
Amazon’s Jeff Bezos Bought The Washington Post
Anti-American Sulzberger guides the NYTimes, with funding from Mexican Carlos Slim.

Profit means very little to these three, and they have weaponized their papers to use against Trump.

You should be more careful in your posts, try to be more accurate.
Profit may or may not be important to Bezos but readership certainly is. Newspapers that loose circulation loose advertising. A paper that operates as such looses legitimacy and creditably which is probably the reason Bezos bought the Post. I seriously doubt he will change anything other than providing a solid financial base, something the Post has not had in many years. It should continue to be a center left paper ranking in the top 10 in the country for circulation, Pulitzers and revenue.


"Profit may or may not be important to Bezos but readership certainly is. Newspapers that loose circulation loose advertising. "

You just contradicted yourself.


 
Actually, we don't know when he became criminally insane....but as far as politics having nothing to do with it.....the jury is out on that.

Did you know about this?

    1. Research turned up an Obama-Loughner link: Obama and Ayers shunted funds to support Maoist Michael Klonsky. In 1991 Klonsky and Ayers co-founded a project known as the "Small Schools Workshop" (SSW); the teacher preaching the “social justice” gospel that American capitalism is a racist, materialist, imperialist cauldron of injustice can have greater impact on the students he seeks to mold into his conception of the “good citizen” — and on the teachers he is teaching to be preachers. Another Communist in Obama’s Orb - Andrew C. McCarthy - National Review Online .
    2. During his formative high school years, Jarod Lee Loughner attended the Mountain View High School, in Arizona…a school whose curriculum was designed by Mike Klonsky, friend and associate of Bill Ayers and Barack Obama… Shooting suspect?s nihilism rose with isolation - Herald News

"Educated" by the Left, in schools funded by the snake, Obama....yet the NYTimes tried to link it to the Right.
LOLOL

Yet more typical rightarded nonsense from PoliticalHack. :rolleyes:

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?
Loughner should have been institutionalized long before he killed anybody.

So should you.


In Ugly's case, the appropriate institution would be a zoo.
As typical for you, all lies and/or invective -- but no answers...

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?



Proving you to be a low-life moron has become tedious.

Everyone just witnessed another victim of Leftwing propaganda inspiring violence and murder

a. James T. Hodgkinson produced quotes almost exactly from Bernie Sander's speeches on Facebook
b. He then takes the quotes literally....and makes a list of Republicans to kill.
c. Now you have the gall to demand exactly how Jarod Lee Loughner had been bent by years in a communist-organized high school paid for by Hussein Obama.
You just saw the cause and effect, you imbecile.
d. You remain as ugly on the inside as you are on the outside.
So you won't answer the question...

You tried tying Loughner to a book by Ayers and Klonsky. Now you're trying to tie in Hodgkinson?

Did Hodgkinson attend a school influenced by "A Simple Justice?"

So again... the question you won't answer...

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?
 
LOLOL

Yet more typical rightarded nonsense from PoliticalHack. :rolleyes:

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?
Loughner should have been institutionalized long before he killed anybody.

So should you.


In Ugly's case, the appropriate institution would be a zoo.
As typical for you, all lies and/or invective -- but no answers...

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?



Proving you to be a low-life moron has become tedious.

Everyone just witnessed another victim of Leftwing propaganda inspiring violence and murder

a. James T. Hodgkinson produced quotes almost exactly from Bernie Sander's speeches on Facebook
b. He then takes the quotes literally....and makes a list of Republicans to kill.
c. Now you have the gall to demand exactly how Jarod Lee Loughner had been bent by years in a communist-organized high school paid for by Hussein Obama.
You just saw the cause and effect, you imbecile.
d. You remain as ugly on the inside as you are on the outside.
So you won't answer the question...

You tried tying Loughner to a book by Ayers and Klonsky. Now you're trying to tie in Hodgkinson?

Did Hodgkinson attend a school influenced by "A Simple Justice?"

So again... the question you won't answer...

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?


You always were a slow learner.



"BILL AYERS, COMMUNIST PROVIDED ARIZONA SHOOTER'S CURRICULUM?
Jared Lee Loughner, the suspected gunman in Saturday’s Arizona shooting, attended a high school that is part of a network in which teachers are trained and provided resources by a liberal group founded by Weatherman terrorist Bill Ayers and funded by President Obama,....

The group, Small Schools Workshop, has been led by a former top communist activist who is an associate of Ayers.

Obama provided the group with funds in the 1990s when he worked at an education reform group alongside Ayers.

Loughner attended Mountain View High School, which is part of Arizona’s Marana Unified School District."

....Klonsky became a top communist activist and leader of the Marxist-Leninist Communist Party.

He reportedly identified as a Maoist, and traveled in 1977 to Beijing,...."
Bill Ayers, communist provided Arizona shooter’s curriculum?





Those who knew Loughner claim he changed after said 'schooling'...

"Jared Lee Loughner's high school girlfriend: 'He was completely different back then than he is now'
Kelsey Hawkes, who dated Arizona shooting suspect Jared Lee Loughner in high school, says she's been 'bombarded' by media inquiries. 'I did date Jared Loughner six years ago in high school,' she says, 'but he's not the same Jared Loughner that the world now knows as a mass murderer -- not the same person at all.'"

January 12, 2011|By Molly Hennessey-Fiske, Los Angeles Times



The insane killer, Jared Loughner was a product of Leftist propaganda in schools funded by Barack Hussein Obama.



Now that we're chatting.....what caused your insanity?
 
Loughner should have been institutionalized long before he killed anybody.

So should you.


In Ugly's case, the appropriate institution would be a zoo.
As typical for you, all lies and/or invective -- but no answers...

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?



Proving you to be a low-life moron has become tedious.

Everyone just witnessed another victim of Leftwing propaganda inspiring violence and murder

a. James T. Hodgkinson produced quotes almost exactly from Bernie Sander's speeches on Facebook
b. He then takes the quotes literally....and makes a list of Republicans to kill.
c. Now you have the gall to demand exactly how Jarod Lee Loughner had been bent by years in a communist-organized high school paid for by Hussein Obama.
You just saw the cause and effect, you imbecile.
d. You remain as ugly on the inside as you are on the outside.
So you won't answer the question...

You tried tying Loughner to a book by Ayers and Klonsky. Now you're trying to tie in Hodgkinson?

Did Hodgkinson attend a school influenced by "A Simple Justice?"

So again... the question you won't answer...

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?


You always were a slow learner.



"BILL AYERS, COMMUNIST PROVIDED ARIZONA SHOOTER'S CURRICULUM?
Jared Lee Loughner, the suspected gunman in Saturday’s Arizona shooting, attended a high school that is part of a network in which teachers are trained and provided resources by a liberal group founded by Weatherman terrorist Bill Ayers and funded by President Obama,....

The group, Small Schools Workshop, has been led by a former top communist activist who is an associate of Ayers.

Obama provided the group with funds in the 1990s when he worked at an education reform group alongside Ayers.

Loughner attended Mountain View High School, which is part of Arizona’s Marana Unified School District."

....Klonsky became a top communist activist and leader of the Marxist-Leninist Communist Party.

He reportedly identified as a Maoist, and traveled in 1977 to Beijing,...."
Bill Ayers, communist provided Arizona shooter’s curriculum?





Those who knew Loughner claim he changed after said 'schooling'...

"Jared Lee Loughner's high school girlfriend: 'He was completely different back then than he is now'
Kelsey Hawkes, who dated Arizona shooting suspect Jared Lee Loughner in high school, says she's been 'bombarded' by media inquiries. 'I did date Jared Loughner six years ago in high school,' she says, 'but he's not the same Jared Loughner that the world now knows as a mass murderer -- not the same person at all.'"

January 12, 2011|By Molly Hennessey-Fiske, Los Angeles Times



The insane killer, Jared Loughner was a product of Leftist propaganda in schools funded by Barack Hussein Obama.



Now that we're chatting.....what caused your insanity?
You poor thing. Bless your heart.

I didn't ask you to repeat your post. I asked you, exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?

Since I asked you to cite something from their book that you claim would inspire such a mentally depraved condition, don't you realize the answer should contain something from their book? Repeating banalities from your earlier post certainly doesn't answer it.
 
Oh really. I'm supposed to just sit here and take your word for it that something you claim to have seen six years ago, I somehow must have seen too.

Go learn how to read --- I just said that I have zero recollection of anything like that. Do you understand what that means? Are you going to read my mind now and prove how I do have such a recollection?

Freaking idiot.

Etherion -- you watching this shit? He just called me a "blazing fucking LIAR". Sic 'em!

And for the record, Loughner was criminally insane. He was so far gone politics had nothing to do with why he tried to blow Gabby Giffords' brains out and go on a killing spree.


Actually, we don't know when he became criminally insane....but as far as politics having nothing to do with it.....the jury is out on that.

Did you know about this?

    1. Research turned up an Obama-Loughner link: Obama and Ayers shunted funds to support Maoist Michael Klonsky. In 1991 Klonsky and Ayers co-founded a project known as the "Small Schools Workshop" (SSW); the teacher preaching the “social justice” gospel that American capitalism is a racist, materialist, imperialist cauldron of injustice can have greater impact on the students he seeks to mold into his conception of the “good citizen” — and on the teachers he is teaching to be preachers. Another Communist in Obama’s Orb - Andrew C. McCarthy - National Review Online .
    2. During his formative high school years, Jarod Lee Loughner attended the Mountain View High School, in Arizona…a school whose curriculum was designed by Mike Klonsky, friend and associate of Bill Ayers and Barack Obama… Shooting suspect?s nihilism rose with isolation - Herald News

"Educated" by the Left, in schools funded by the snake, Obama....yet the NYTimes tried to link it to the Right.
LOLOL

Yet more typical rightarded nonsense from PoliticalHack. :rolleyes:

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?
Loughner should have been institutionalized long before he killed anybody.

So should you.


In Ugly's case, the appropriate institution would be a zoo.
As long as there are bars and no release date, it's all good.
 
Loughner should have been institutionalized long before he killed anybody.

So should you.


In Ugly's case, the appropriate institution would be a zoo.
As typical for you, all lies and/or invective -- but no answers...

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?



Proving you to be a low-life moron has become tedious.

Everyone just witnessed another victim of Leftwing propaganda inspiring violence and murder

a. James T. Hodgkinson produced quotes almost exactly from Bernie Sander's speeches on Facebook
b. He then takes the quotes literally....and makes a list of Republicans to kill.
c. Now you have the gall to demand exactly how Jarod Lee Loughner had been bent by years in a communist-organized high school paid for by Hussein Obama.
You just saw the cause and effect, you imbecile.
d. You remain as ugly on the inside as you are on the outside.
So you won't answer the question...

You tried tying Loughner to a book by Ayers and Klonsky. Now you're trying to tie in Hodgkinson?

Did Hodgkinson attend a school influenced by "A Simple Justice?"

So again... the question you won't answer...

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?


You always were a slow learner.



"BILL AYERS, COMMUNIST PROVIDED ARIZONA SHOOTER'S CURRICULUM?
Jared Lee Loughner, the suspected gunman in Saturday’s Arizona shooting, attended a high school that is part of a network in which teachers are trained and provided resources by a liberal group founded by Weatherman terrorist Bill Ayers and funded by President Obama,....

The group, Small Schools Workshop, has been led by a former top communist activist who is an associate of Ayers.

Obama provided the group with funds in the 1990s when he worked at an education reform group alongside Ayers.

Loughner attended Mountain View High School, which is part of Arizona’s Marana Unified School District."

....Klonsky became a top communist activist and leader of the Marxist-Leninist Communist Party.

He reportedly identified as a Maoist, and traveled in 1977 to Beijing,...."
Bill Ayers, communist provided Arizona shooter’s curriculum?





Those who knew Loughner claim he changed after said 'schooling'...

"Jared Lee Loughner's high school girlfriend: 'He was completely different back then than he is now'
Kelsey Hawkes, who dated Arizona shooting suspect Jared Lee Loughner in high school, says she's been 'bombarded' by media inquiries. 'I did date Jared Loughner six years ago in high school,' she says, 'but he's not the same Jared Loughner that the world now knows as a mass murderer -- not the same person at all.'"

January 12, 2011|By Molly Hennessey-Fiske, Los Angeles Times



The insane killer, Jared Loughner was a product of Leftist propaganda in schools funded by Barack Hussein Obama.



Now that we're chatting.....what caused your insanity?
So is the guy who shot up the baseball game.

And he was also a FOSTER PARENT. One of his foster kids committed suicide by TORCHING HERSELF.

That's the sort of person that engages in state control of children. Leftist and beloved by leftists. The left think this guy is a fucking hero.

Before the Gunfire in Virginia, a Volatile Home Life in Illinois
 
And a perfect example of what I was talking about...
See, you don't get it.

What is happening is that the NORMAL population is completely fed up with the insanity of the depraved left. The rubber is meeting the road, and the left is freaking out. For decades they have been molly coddled, told they don't have to work, told they are disabled if they are lazy, and further told that there is no stigma to living off other people like the parasites they are. For a half century, wall eyed head spinning schizophrenics have been told that society must adjust to THEM and that their perceptions dictate reality, and that if they don't like what people say, they can stomp their feet and have that person silenced.

It's over. The social experiment failed. Now we're going to have to clean up all the offal that moved in.
The normal population? Exactly what do you mean by normal?
What do you think I mean?

The ones that don't advocate baby killing, tree worship, drug use, and sexual depravity of all forms.

The sane people.

lol........ trump was very much an advocate for freedom of choice until he wanted to be prez. he was also the epitome of sexual depravity.... the vile creature had no problem with admitting to grabbing women by the pussy & that is probably the least of it just ask those russian hookers who gave him his golden shower.
There you have it, civility by the left.

are you serious? what a joke that statement is....

let's break it down shall we? m'k...

there is THIS- my fist refudiation to kosherchicky:



then of course there's that P word... the one that i am only repeating after your president said it & what he did to it real loud & clear. you have a problem with what exactly? the possibility there might be a peepee tape? after his whoring around NYC all his life, & hanging out at studio 54- no wonder he said that ' avoiding AIDS was his personal vietnam'. you wanna talk about civility? lol............ spare me penguin boy.
 
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You deny reality and claim you never saw what happened, that tells me you are a blazing fucking LIAR.

Oh really. I'm supposed to just sit here and take your word for it that something you claim to have seen six years ago, I somehow must have seen too.

Go learn how to read --- I just said that I have zero recollection of anything like that. Do you understand what that means? Are you going to read my mind now and prove how I do have such a recollection?

Freaking idiot.

Etherion -- you watching this shit? He just called me a "blazing fucking LIAR". Sic 'em!

And for the record, Loughner was criminally insane. He was so far gone politics had nothing to do with why he tried to blow Gabby Giffords' brains out and go on a killing spree.


Actually, we don't know when he became criminally insane....but as far as politics having nothing to do with it.....the jury is out on that.

Did you know about this?

    1. Research turned up an Obama-Loughner link: Obama and Ayers shunted funds to support Maoist Michael Klonsky. In 1991 Klonsky and Ayers co-founded a project known as the "Small Schools Workshop" (SSW); the teacher preaching the “social justice” gospel that American capitalism is a racist, materialist, imperialist cauldron of injustice can have greater impact on the students he seeks to mold into his conception of the “good citizen” — and on the teachers he is teaching to be preachers. Another Communist in Obama’s Orb - Andrew C. McCarthy - National Review Online .
    2. During his formative high school years, Jarod Lee Loughner attended the Mountain View High School, in Arizona…a school whose curriculum was designed by Mike Klonsky, friend and associate of Bill Ayers and Barack Obama… Shooting suspect?s nihilism rose with isolation - Herald News

"Educated" by the Left, in schools funded by the snake, Obama....yet the NYTimes tried to link it to the Right.
LOLOL

Yet more typical rightarded nonsense from PoliticalHack. :rolleyes:

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?
Loughner should have been institutionalized long before he killed anybody.

So should you.

' cept that saint ronnie closed many mental institutions & your overlord just signed in the ability for the mentally disabled to legally own a gun? yep. any nutjob now can have a gun. & the day scalise was shot, congress was gonna talk about easing restrictions on silencers. those on the ballfield wouldn't have even known where the shots were coming from & that is just freakin sick.
 
In Ugly's case, the appropriate institution would be a zoo.
As typical for you, all lies and/or invective -- but no answers...

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?



Proving you to be a low-life moron has become tedious.

Everyone just witnessed another victim of Leftwing propaganda inspiring violence and murder

a. James T. Hodgkinson produced quotes almost exactly from Bernie Sander's speeches on Facebook
b. He then takes the quotes literally....and makes a list of Republicans to kill.
c. Now you have the gall to demand exactly how Jarod Lee Loughner had been bent by years in a communist-organized high school paid for by Hussein Obama.
You just saw the cause and effect, you imbecile.
d. You remain as ugly on the inside as you are on the outside.
So you won't answer the question...

You tried tying Loughner to a book by Ayers and Klonsky. Now you're trying to tie in Hodgkinson?

Did Hodgkinson attend a school influenced by "A Simple Justice?"

So again... the question you won't answer...

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?


You always were a slow learner.



"BILL AYERS, COMMUNIST PROVIDED ARIZONA SHOOTER'S CURRICULUM?
Jared Lee Loughner, the suspected gunman in Saturday’s Arizona shooting, attended a high school that is part of a network in which teachers are trained and provided resources by a liberal group founded by Weatherman terrorist Bill Ayers and funded by President Obama,....

The group, Small Schools Workshop, has been led by a former top communist activist who is an associate of Ayers.

Obama provided the group with funds in the 1990s when he worked at an education reform group alongside Ayers.

Loughner attended Mountain View High School, which is part of Arizona’s Marana Unified School District."

....Klonsky became a top communist activist and leader of the Marxist-Leninist Communist Party.

He reportedly identified as a Maoist, and traveled in 1977 to Beijing,...."
Bill Ayers, communist provided Arizona shooter’s curriculum?





Those who knew Loughner claim he changed after said 'schooling'...

"Jared Lee Loughner's high school girlfriend: 'He was completely different back then than he is now'
Kelsey Hawkes, who dated Arizona shooting suspect Jared Lee Loughner in high school, says she's been 'bombarded' by media inquiries. 'I did date Jared Loughner six years ago in high school,' she says, 'but he's not the same Jared Loughner that the world now knows as a mass murderer -- not the same person at all.'"

January 12, 2011|By Molly Hennessey-Fiske, Los Angeles Times



The insane killer, Jared Loughner was a product of Leftist propaganda in schools funded by Barack Hussein Obama.



Now that we're chatting.....what caused your insanity?
You poor thing. Bless your heart.

I didn't ask you to repeat your post. I asked you, exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?

Since I asked you to cite something from their book that you claim would inspire such a mentally depraved condition, don't you realize the answer should contain something from their book? Repeating banalities from your earlier post certainly doesn't answer it.


Book?

You dunce, it was an entire high school curriculum infused with Leftists propaganda.

You of all people should understand how weak minded individuals succumb to that sort of indoctrination.

Probably took even less time with a dope like you, huh?
 
And for the record, Loughner was criminally insane. He was so far gone politics had nothing to do with why he tried to blow Gabby Giffords' brains out and go on a killing spree.


Actually, we don't know when he became criminally insane....but as far as politics having nothing to do with it.....the jury is out on that.

Did you know about this?

    1. Research turned up an Obama-Loughner link: Obama and Ayers shunted funds to support Maoist Michael Klonsky. In 1991 Klonsky and Ayers co-founded a project known as the "Small Schools Workshop" (SSW); the teacher preaching the “social justice” gospel that American capitalism is a racist, materialist, imperialist cauldron of injustice can have greater impact on the students he seeks to mold into his conception of the “good citizen” — and on the teachers he is teaching to be preachers. Another Communist in Obama’s Orb - Andrew C. McCarthy - National Review Online .
    2. During his formative high school years, Jarod Lee Loughner attended the Mountain View High School, in Arizona…a school whose curriculum was designed by Mike Klonsky, friend and associate of Bill Ayers and Barack Obama… Shooting suspect?s nihilism rose with isolation - Herald News

"Educated" by the Left, in schools funded by the snake, Obama....yet the NYTimes tried to link it to the Right.
LOLOL

Yet more typical rightarded nonsense from PoliticalHack. :rolleyes:

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?
Loughner should have been institutionalized long before he killed anybody.

So should you.


In Ugly's case, the appropriate institution would be a zoo.
As long as there are bars and no release date, it's all good.


But....I shudder to think of what it effect it might have on children if they get a look at that visage.
Could require years of psychotherapy.
 
Oh really. I'm supposed to just sit here and take your word for it that something you claim to have seen six years ago, I somehow must have seen too.

Go learn how to read --- I just said that I have zero recollection of anything like that. Do you understand what that means? Are you going to read my mind now and prove how I do have such a recollection?

Freaking idiot.

Etherion -- you watching this shit? He just called me a "blazing fucking LIAR". Sic 'em!

And for the record, Loughner was criminally insane. He was so far gone politics had nothing to do with why he tried to blow Gabby Giffords' brains out and go on a killing spree.


Actually, we don't know when he became criminally insane....but as far as politics having nothing to do with it.....the jury is out on that.

Did you know about this?

    1. Research turned up an Obama-Loughner link: Obama and Ayers shunted funds to support Maoist Michael Klonsky. In 1991 Klonsky and Ayers co-founded a project known as the "Small Schools Workshop" (SSW); the teacher preaching the “social justice” gospel that American capitalism is a racist, materialist, imperialist cauldron of injustice can have greater impact on the students he seeks to mold into his conception of the “good citizen” — and on the teachers he is teaching to be preachers. Another Communist in Obama’s Orb - Andrew C. McCarthy - National Review Online .
    2. During his formative high school years, Jarod Lee Loughner attended the Mountain View High School, in Arizona…a school whose curriculum was designed by Mike Klonsky, friend and associate of Bill Ayers and Barack Obama… Shooting suspect?s nihilism rose with isolation - Herald News

"Educated" by the Left, in schools funded by the snake, Obama....yet the NYTimes tried to link it to the Right.
LOLOL

Yet more typical rightarded nonsense from PoliticalHack. :rolleyes:

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?
Loughner should have been institutionalized long before he killed anybody.

So should you.

' cept that saint ronnie closed many mental institutions & your overlord just signed in the ability for the mentally disabled to legally own a gun? yep. any nutjob now can have a gun. & the day scalise was shot, congress was gonna talk about easing restrictions on silencers. those on the ballfield wouldn't have even known where the shots were coming from & that is just freakin sick.


Astounding how wrong you Leftist dolts are.

As the great Ronald Reagan said: 'It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.'

It was John Kennedy, Democrat, who did that.

1." On Feb. 5, 1963, ... President John F. Kennedy addressed Congress on "Mental Illness and Mental Retardation." He proposed a new program under which the federal government would fund community mental-health centers, or CMHCs, to take the place of state mental hospitals. As Kennedy envisioned it, "reliance on the cold mercy of custodial isolations will be supplanted by the open warmth of community concern and capability."

2. Kennedy's proposal was historic because the public care of mentally ill individuals had been exclusively a state responsibility for more than a century. The federal initiative encouraged the closing of state hospitals and aborted the development of state-funded outpatient clinics in process at that time.

3. .... the feds funded 789 CMHCs with a total of $2.7 billion ($20.3 billion in today's dollars). During those same years, the number of patients in state mental hospitals fell by three quarters—to 132,164 from 504,604—and those beds were closed down.

a. .... CMHCs were not interested in taking care of the patients being discharged from the state hospitals. Instead, they focused on individuals with less severe problems sometimes called "the worried well."

4. ... this federal program failed because ... it did not provide care for the sickest patients released from the state hospitals. When President Ronald Reagan finally block-granted federal CMHC funds to the states in 1981, he was not killing the program. He was disposing of the corpse.

a. .... Medicaid and Medicare... Supplemental Security Income and Social Security Disability Insurance programs.... The federal takeover of the mental-illness treatment system was complete.

5. According to multiple studies summarized by the Treatment Advocacy Center, these untreated mentally ill are responsible for 10% of all homicides (and a higher percentage of the mass killings), constitute 20% of jail and prison inmates and at least 30% of the homeless. Severely mentally ill individuals now inundate hospital emergency rooms and have colonized libraries, parks, train stations and other public spaces. The quality of the lives of these individuals mocks the lofty intentions of the founders of the CMHC program.

6. ...the annual total public funds for the support and treatment of mentally ill individuals is now more than $140 billion. The equivalent expenditure in 1963 when Kennedy proposed the CMHC program was $1 billion, or about $10 billion in today's dollars.

7. Nor is President Obama likely to do anything, since his lead agency, the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, has essentially denied that a problem exists. Its contribution to the president's response to the Dec. 14 Newtown tragedy focused only on school children and insurance coverage. And its current plan of action for 2011-14, a 41,000-word document, includes no mention of schizophrenia, bipolar disorder or outpatient commitment, all essential elements in an effective plan for corrective action.

8. ... this federal experiment has failed, as seen most recently in the mass shootings by mentally ill individuals in Newtown, Conn., Aurora, Colo., and Tucson, Ariz. It is time for the federal government to get out of this business and return the responsibility, and funds, to the states." E. Fuller Torrey: Fifty Years of Failing America's Mentally Ill

So....the mentally ill are the major factor in mass shootings......and the inception of the 'empty the mental hospitals' is not at the behest of Republican Reagan....but, rather, Democrat Kennedy.


BTW....if you have the guts....ask me why John Kennedy did that.
 
And for the record, Loughner was criminally insane. He was so far gone politics had nothing to do with why he tried to blow Gabby Giffords' brains out and go on a killing spree.


Actually, we don't know when he became criminally insane....but as far as politics having nothing to do with it.....the jury is out on that.

Did you know about this?

    1. Research turned up an Obama-Loughner link: Obama and Ayers shunted funds to support Maoist Michael Klonsky. In 1991 Klonsky and Ayers co-founded a project known as the "Small Schools Workshop" (SSW); the teacher preaching the “social justice” gospel that American capitalism is a racist, materialist, imperialist cauldron of injustice can have greater impact on the students he seeks to mold into his conception of the “good citizen” — and on the teachers he is teaching to be preachers. Another Communist in Obama’s Orb - Andrew C. McCarthy - National Review Online .
    2. During his formative high school years, Jarod Lee Loughner attended the Mountain View High School, in Arizona…a school whose curriculum was designed by Mike Klonsky, friend and associate of Bill Ayers and Barack Obama… Shooting suspect?s nihilism rose with isolation - Herald News

"Educated" by the Left, in schools funded by the snake, Obama....yet the NYTimes tried to link it to the Right.
LOLOL

Yet more typical rightarded nonsense from PoliticalHack. :rolleyes:

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?
Loughner should have been institutionalized long before he killed anybody.

So should you.

' cept that saint ronnie closed many mental institutions & your overlord just signed in the ability for the mentally disabled to legally own a gun? yep. any nutjob now can have a gun. & the day scalise was shot, congress was gonna talk about easing restrictions on silencers. those on the ballfield wouldn't have even known where the shots were coming from & that is just freakin sick.


Astounding how wrong you Leftist dolts are.

As the great Ronald Reagan said: 'It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.'

It was John Kennedy, Democrat, who did that.

1." On Feb. 5, 1963, ... President John F. Kennedy addressed Congress on "Mental Illness and Mental Retardation." He proposed a new program under which the federal government would fund community mental-health centers, or CMHCs, to take the place of state mental hospitals. As Kennedy envisioned it, "reliance on the cold mercy of custodial isolations will be supplanted by the open warmth of community concern and capability."

2. Kennedy's proposal was historic because the public care of mentally ill individuals had been exclusively a state responsibility for more than a century. The federal initiative encouraged the closing of state hospitals and aborted the development of state-funded outpatient clinics in process at that time.

3. .... the feds funded 789 CMHCs with a total of $2.7 billion ($20.3 billion in today's dollars). During those same years, the number of patients in state mental hospitals fell by three quarters—to 132,164 from 504,604—and those beds were closed down.

a. .... CMHCs were not interested in taking care of the patients being discharged from the state hospitals. Instead, they focused on individuals with less severe problems sometimes called "the worried well."

4. ... this federal program failed because ... it did not provide care for the sickest patients released from the state hospitals. When President Ronald Reagan finally block-granted federal CMHC funds to the states in 1981, he was not killing the program. He was disposing of the corpse.

a. .... Medicaid and Medicare... Supplemental Security Income and Social Security Disability Insurance programs.... The federal takeover of the mental-illness treatment system was complete.

5. According to multiple studies summarized by the Treatment Advocacy Center, these untreated mentally ill are responsible for 10% of all homicides (and a higher percentage of the mass killings), constitute 20% of jail and prison inmates and at least 30% of the homeless. Severely mentally ill individuals now inundate hospital emergency rooms and have colonized libraries, parks, train stations and other public spaces. The quality of the lives of these individuals mocks the lofty intentions of the founders of the CMHC program.

6. ...the annual total public funds for the support and treatment of mentally ill individuals is now more than $140 billion. The equivalent expenditure in 1963 when Kennedy proposed the CMHC program was $1 billion, or about $10 billion in today's dollars.

7. Nor is President Obama likely to do anything, since his lead agency, the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, has essentially denied that a problem exists. Its contribution to the president's response to the Dec. 14 Newtown tragedy focused only on school children and insurance coverage. And its current plan of action for 2011-14, a 41,000-word document, includes no mention of schizophrenia, bipolar disorder or outpatient commitment, all essential elements in an effective plan for corrective action.

8. ... this federal experiment has failed, as seen most recently in the mass shootings by mentally ill individuals in Newtown, Conn., Aurora, Colo., and Tucson, Ariz. It is time for the federal government to get out of this business and return the responsibility, and funds, to the states." E. Fuller Torrey: Fifty Years of Failing America's Mentally Ill

So....the mentally ill are the major factor in mass shootings......and the inception of the 'empty the mental hospitals' is not at the behest of Republican Reagan....but, rather, Democrat Kennedy.


BTW....if you have the guts....ask me why John Kennedy did that.

i worked in nursing homes during ronnie's reign & we got the recipients of all those closings. i lived it.
 
As typical for you, all lies and/or invective -- but no answers...

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?



Proving you to be a low-life moron has become tedious.

Everyone just witnessed another victim of Leftwing propaganda inspiring violence and murder

a. James T. Hodgkinson produced quotes almost exactly from Bernie Sander's speeches on Facebook
b. He then takes the quotes literally....and makes a list of Republicans to kill.
c. Now you have the gall to demand exactly how Jarod Lee Loughner had been bent by years in a communist-organized high school paid for by Hussein Obama.
You just saw the cause and effect, you imbecile.
d. You remain as ugly on the inside as you are on the outside.
So you won't answer the question...

You tried tying Loughner to a book by Ayers and Klonsky. Now you're trying to tie in Hodgkinson?

Did Hodgkinson attend a school influenced by "A Simple Justice?"

So again... the question you won't answer...

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?


You always were a slow learner.



"BILL AYERS, COMMUNIST PROVIDED ARIZONA SHOOTER'S CURRICULUM?
Jared Lee Loughner, the suspected gunman in Saturday’s Arizona shooting, attended a high school that is part of a network in which teachers are trained and provided resources by a liberal group founded by Weatherman terrorist Bill Ayers and funded by President Obama,....

The group, Small Schools Workshop, has been led by a former top communist activist who is an associate of Ayers.

Obama provided the group with funds in the 1990s when he worked at an education reform group alongside Ayers.

Loughner attended Mountain View High School, which is part of Arizona’s Marana Unified School District."

....Klonsky became a top communist activist and leader of the Marxist-Leninist Communist Party.

He reportedly identified as a Maoist, and traveled in 1977 to Beijing,...."
Bill Ayers, communist provided Arizona shooter’s curriculum?





Those who knew Loughner claim he changed after said 'schooling'...

"Jared Lee Loughner's high school girlfriend: 'He was completely different back then than he is now'
Kelsey Hawkes, who dated Arizona shooting suspect Jared Lee Loughner in high school, says she's been 'bombarded' by media inquiries. 'I did date Jared Loughner six years ago in high school,' she says, 'but he's not the same Jared Loughner that the world now knows as a mass murderer -- not the same person at all.'"

January 12, 2011|By Molly Hennessey-Fiske, Los Angeles Times



The insane killer, Jared Loughner was a product of Leftist propaganda in schools funded by Barack Hussein Obama.



Now that we're chatting.....what caused your insanity?
So is the guy who shot up the baseball game.

And he was also a FOSTER PARENT. One of his foster kids committed suicide by TORCHING HERSELF.

That's the sort of person that engages in state control of children. Leftist and beloved by leftists. The left think this guy is a fucking hero.

Before the Gunfire in Virginia, a Volatile Home Life in Illinois

you are a fucking loon.



Is the vulgarity because you're a low-life, or because you know the lady is correct and you have no way to refute it?
 
As typical for you, all lies and/or invective -- but no answers...

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?



Proving you to be a low-life moron has become tedious.

Everyone just witnessed another victim of Leftwing propaganda inspiring violence and murder

a. James T. Hodgkinson produced quotes almost exactly from Bernie Sander's speeches on Facebook
b. He then takes the quotes literally....and makes a list of Republicans to kill.
c. Now you have the gall to demand exactly how Jarod Lee Loughner had been bent by years in a communist-organized high school paid for by Hussein Obama.
You just saw the cause and effect, you imbecile.
d. You remain as ugly on the inside as you are on the outside.
So you won't answer the question...

You tried tying Loughner to a book by Ayers and Klonsky. Now you're trying to tie in Hodgkinson?

Did Hodgkinson attend a school influenced by "A Simple Justice?"

So again... the question you won't answer...

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?


You always were a slow learner.



"BILL AYERS, COMMUNIST PROVIDED ARIZONA SHOOTER'S CURRICULUM?
Jared Lee Loughner, the suspected gunman in Saturday’s Arizona shooting, attended a high school that is part of a network in which teachers are trained and provided resources by a liberal group founded by Weatherman terrorist Bill Ayers and funded by President Obama,....

The group, Small Schools Workshop, has been led by a former top communist activist who is an associate of Ayers.

Obama provided the group with funds in the 1990s when he worked at an education reform group alongside Ayers.

Loughner attended Mountain View High School, which is part of Arizona’s Marana Unified School District."

....Klonsky became a top communist activist and leader of the Marxist-Leninist Communist Party.

He reportedly identified as a Maoist, and traveled in 1977 to Beijing,...."
Bill Ayers, communist provided Arizona shooter’s curriculum?





Those who knew Loughner claim he changed after said 'schooling'...

"Jared Lee Loughner's high school girlfriend: 'He was completely different back then than he is now'
Kelsey Hawkes, who dated Arizona shooting suspect Jared Lee Loughner in high school, says she's been 'bombarded' by media inquiries. 'I did date Jared Loughner six years ago in high school,' she says, 'but he's not the same Jared Loughner that the world now knows as a mass murderer -- not the same person at all.'"

January 12, 2011|By Molly Hennessey-Fiske, Los Angeles Times



The insane killer, Jared Loughner was a product of Leftist propaganda in schools funded by Barack Hussein Obama.



Now that we're chatting.....what caused your insanity?
So is the guy who shot up the baseball game.

And he was also a FOSTER PARENT. One of his foster kids committed suicide by TORCHING HERSELF.

That's the sort of person that engages in state control of children. Leftist and beloved by leftists. The left think this guy is a fucking hero.

Before the Gunfire in Virginia, a Volatile Home Life in Illinois

you are a fucking loon.
Because I stated a fact?

You must be a foster parent.
 
Actually, we don't know when he became criminally insane....but as far as politics having nothing to do with it.....the jury is out on that.

Did you know about this?

    1. Research turned up an Obama-Loughner link: Obama and Ayers shunted funds to support Maoist Michael Klonsky. In 1991 Klonsky and Ayers co-founded a project known as the "Small Schools Workshop" (SSW); the teacher preaching the “social justice” gospel that American capitalism is a racist, materialist, imperialist cauldron of injustice can have greater impact on the students he seeks to mold into his conception of the “good citizen” — and on the teachers he is teaching to be preachers. Another Communist in Obama’s Orb - Andrew C. McCarthy - National Review Online .
    2. During his formative high school years, Jarod Lee Loughner attended the Mountain View High School, in Arizona…a school whose curriculum was designed by Mike Klonsky, friend and associate of Bill Ayers and Barack Obama… Shooting suspect?s nihilism rose with isolation - Herald News

"Educated" by the Left, in schools funded by the snake, Obama....yet the NYTimes tried to link it to the Right.
LOLOL

Yet more typical rightarded nonsense from PoliticalHack. :rolleyes:

Exactly what about Ayers/Klonsky's book do you contend caused Loughner to become the monster who unloaded his weapons on innocent folks?
Loughner should have been institutionalized long before he killed anybody.

So should you.

' cept that saint ronnie closed many mental institutions & your overlord just signed in the ability for the mentally disabled to legally own a gun? yep. any nutjob now can have a gun. & the day scalise was shot, congress was gonna talk about easing restrictions on silencers. those on the ballfield wouldn't have even known where the shots were coming from & that is just freakin sick.


Astounding how wrong you Leftist dolts are.

As the great Ronald Reagan said: 'It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.'

It was John Kennedy, Democrat, who did that.

1." On Feb. 5, 1963, ... President John F. Kennedy addressed Congress on "Mental Illness and Mental Retardation." He proposed a new program under which the federal government would fund community mental-health centers, or CMHCs, to take the place of state mental hospitals. As Kennedy envisioned it, "reliance on the cold mercy of custodial isolations will be supplanted by the open warmth of community concern and capability."

2. Kennedy's proposal was historic because the public care of mentally ill individuals had been exclusively a state responsibility for more than a century. The federal initiative encouraged the closing of state hospitals and aborted the development of state-funded outpatient clinics in process at that time.

3. .... the feds funded 789 CMHCs with a total of $2.7 billion ($20.3 billion in today's dollars). During those same years, the number of patients in state mental hospitals fell by three quarters—to 132,164 from 504,604—and those beds were closed down.

a. .... CMHCs were not interested in taking care of the patients being discharged from the state hospitals. Instead, they focused on individuals with less severe problems sometimes called "the worried well."

4. ... this federal program failed because ... it did not provide care for the sickest patients released from the state hospitals. When President Ronald Reagan finally block-granted federal CMHC funds to the states in 1981, he was not killing the program. He was disposing of the corpse.

a. .... Medicaid and Medicare... Supplemental Security Income and Social Security Disability Insurance programs.... The federal takeover of the mental-illness treatment system was complete.

5. According to multiple studies summarized by the Treatment Advocacy Center, these untreated mentally ill are responsible for 10% of all homicides (and a higher percentage of the mass killings), constitute 20% of jail and prison inmates and at least 30% of the homeless. Severely mentally ill individuals now inundate hospital emergency rooms and have colonized libraries, parks, train stations and other public spaces. The quality of the lives of these individuals mocks the lofty intentions of the founders of the CMHC program.

6. ...the annual total public funds for the support and treatment of mentally ill individuals is now more than $140 billion. The equivalent expenditure in 1963 when Kennedy proposed the CMHC program was $1 billion, or about $10 billion in today's dollars.

7. Nor is President Obama likely to do anything, since his lead agency, the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, has essentially denied that a problem exists. Its contribution to the president's response to the Dec. 14 Newtown tragedy focused only on school children and insurance coverage. And its current plan of action for 2011-14, a 41,000-word document, includes no mention of schizophrenia, bipolar disorder or outpatient commitment, all essential elements in an effective plan for corrective action.

8. ... this federal experiment has failed, as seen most recently in the mass shootings by mentally ill individuals in Newtown, Conn., Aurora, Colo., and Tucson, Ariz. It is time for the federal government to get out of this business and return the responsibility, and funds, to the states." E. Fuller Torrey: Fifty Years of Failing America's Mentally Ill

So....the mentally ill are the major factor in mass shootings......and the inception of the 'empty the mental hospitals' is not at the behest of Republican Reagan....but, rather, Democrat Kennedy.


BTW....if you have the guts....ask me why John Kennedy did that.

i worked in nursing homes during ronnie's reign & we got the recipients of all those closings. i lived it.




I just provided the facts.
Kennedy, not the great Ronald Reagan.

I note that you declined asking about Kennedy's motivations.

Do you know already?



You can find Kennedy's speech here:
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=9546
 
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