Andylusion
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Between 1991 and 2009, its holding company filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy four times. .
An unmitigated failure - cost thousands of people their jobs and left dozens of small businesses without payment .
( source : NYTIMES JUNE 11, 2016)
Trump still extracted millions of dollars by awarding himself millions in salary and bonus payments.
"I made a lot of money in Atlantic City," he said "And I'm very proud of it."
Newsweek August 27, 2016
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1971 - Trumps say's Dad lent him a $1 million - to build out the Grand Hyatt hotel
but turns out his dad also signed & guaranteed $70 million in bank loans !
It gets worse - it looks more like his Dad had a problem & used & steered Donald thru the whole deal- this all btw not in Trumps book ...
Washington Post -
Trump’s father — whose name had been besmirched in New York real estate circles after investigations of abuses in his real estate projects — was an essential silent partner in Trump’s initiative. In effect, the son was the front man, relying on his father’s connections and wealth, while his father stood silently in the background to avoid drawing attention to himself.
1980 Donald Trump then bought casinos .
Me : great , what America needs more of ... casinos .. yech .
Trump Plaza & Castle were initially successful .
He then he bought the Taj Mahal casino that
A - siphoned off customers from his Plaza and the Castle casinos.
Me : He didn't see that coming ?
B- lost vast amounts of money
The Taj & all the casinos all eventually went bankrupt.
By December 1990, when Trump needed to make an $18.4 million interest payment, his father, , sent a lawyer to the Castle to buy $3.3 million in chips, to provide him with an infusion of cash.
1985 he borrowed from dad again .. . .
The Wall Street Journal has tracked down a 1985 casino-license disclosure that showed Trump’s father lent him $14 million - a value of $31 million in today's dollars.
Between 1991 and 2009, its holding company filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy four times. .
An unmitigated failure - cost thousands of people their jobs and left dozens of small businesses without payment .
( source : NYTIMES JUNE 11, 2016)
Trump still extracted millions of dollars by awarding himself millions in salary and bonus payments.
"I made a lot of money in Atlantic City," he said "And I'm very proud of it."
Newsweek August 27, 2016
So one thing I love about articles like this, is that their clear partisan bias shows through pretty clearly.
"Trump still extracted millions of dollars by awarding himself millions in salary and bonus payments."
Um.... he owned it? If you owned the business, would not take a salary yourself?
Honestly, if it's your business, you can take all the money if you want. That's how property rights work.
If we found an oil well in your backyard, under your property, and you drilled the well yourself... would you not "extract" the money from selling that oil?
The only complaint you could possibly make, is if he was collecting millions, during the time of the bankruptcy, when he owned contractors money. Well.... I happen to know a little about how bankruptcy courts works, and they wouldn't allow that.
In short, this is a clearly biased hit job, which shows why NYT and other news outlets are biased fake news.
1971 - Trumps say's Dad lent him a $1 million - to build out the Grand Hyatt hotel
but turns out his dad also signed & guaranteed $70 million in bank loans !
It gets worse - it looks more like his Dad had a problem & used & steered Donald thru the whole deal- this all btw not in Trumps book ...
So what? I confused about what is "worse" about this. Every father should steer their children as they learn and grow. Every father has the perfectly acceptable option of helping their children with loans and money.
Are you complaining that Trump's father was a good father? I don't see any issue with any of that.
An unmitigated failure - cost thousands of people their jobs and left dozens of small businesses without payment .
1980 Donald Trump then bought casinos .
Me : great , what America needs more of ... casinos .. yech .
Trump Plaza & Castle were initially successful .\
He then he bought the Taj Mahal casino that\
A - siphoned off customers from his Plaza and the Castle casinos.
Me : He didn't see that coming ?
B- lost vast amounts of money
The Taj & all the casinos all eventually went bankrupt.
Here's the problem with all of that. In order to claim that this is problem of Trump.... you need to show that other companies and businesses did not lose jobs, fail to pay contractors, and declare bankruptcy.
But we already know that *ALL* casinos along Atlantic City were failing. Not just Trump Casinos, all of them were.
The market itself shifted.
The decline in revenue happened across the entire market. It wasn't a problem of Trump. It was a problem of the market.
Gambling revenue declined everywhere in New Jersey, not just Trump.
Trump bought into a market in the 1980s that was booming. The market continued to do well for almost 20 years, and then the market shifted, and all Casinos declined. Not just Trumps.
If you could show me that gambling revenue was going up, and / or that other casinos in the same area were doing fantastic, and only Trump's Casinos were failing....
*THEN* you would have a valid argument to make against Trump. Well... that hasn't happened. Trumps Casino decline was with the rest of the market.