HOR Republicans vote 225-201 to sue the President

Heck, the right wingers are merely been keeping the Socialist Beast at bay, until 2017.

If they keep the House, and re-take the Senate, later this year, they may try the Impeachment route again.

Lord knows, Obumble has given them enough ammo, in connection with Executive Orders as end-runs around Congress, etc.

Valid or not... legitimate or not... well-motivated or not... if you give your Opposition enough ammunition while you're busy pissing them off... at some point, they're gonna make a move on you.

Frankly, given the mood that the country is in, Congress might actually score some points on their own behalf, by going after the POTUS, whose numbers are also on Skid Row at the moment.

They can impeach right now, they have the numbers. House Democrats can't stop them. Removing him from office takes 67 votes in the Senate, so good luck with that.........
Which is why I mentioned re-taking the Senate as a prerequisite.
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I wonder if a GOP-controlled Senate could convince a few Democratic Senators to vote alongside them, in order to dump the POTUS?
 
Can't sue a sitting President. So this is just Republicans wasting time and money which is kinda at odds with their incessant bitching about money being wasted.

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Let me ask everyone. How does Congress stop a president that they feel is overstepping his power? What vehicle do they have? Do we just wait out 4 years and hope that the voters know enough about the situation to vote out the President? Certainly with the state of the economy during the last election NO president should have been reelected. So what is congress to do, short of impeachment? I think challenging the president in court is the way to go. Let the law suit play out, nothing will happen, and the Republicans will be futile in their attempt to rein in the President. Then the left can laugh because they got away with it again.

When Congress wanted to reign in the ability of the president to basically start undeclared wars the passed a law. When Nixon vetoed it they overrode his veto. When Obama signed an executive order to close Gitmo, guess what, Congress amended the law and stopped him from carrying out that EO. What you want to know is how can a single party controlling one house of Congress override an EO.

His executive order was signed the day he took office and demanded it closed by the end of that year.

During that year, and for the entire year following, democrats had the majority in both houses.

So are you telling us that a democratic congress amended the law?

Are telling me you didn't know this?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/20/us/politics/20detain.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Guantanamo Bay To Stay Open As House Blocks Bill To Close Infamous Prison
 
His executive order was signed the day he took office and demanded it closed by the end of that year.

During that year, and for the entire year following, democrats had the majority in both houses.

So are you telling us that a democratic congress amended the law?
That's exactly what they did.

So then why blame the republicans for that?

Who blamed them? I only brought the issue of closing Gitmo up as an example of the built in Checks and Balances of our Constitution. It was a bipartisan effort to stop it as the democrats alone could not have overridden a veto.
 
His executive order was signed the day he took office and demanded it closed by the end of that year.

During that year, and for the entire year following, democrats had the majority in both houses.

So are you telling us that a democratic congress amended the law?
That's exactly what they did.

So then why blame the republicans for that?

Because it was republicans that added the amendment.

On January 22, 2009, President Obama fulfilled one of his campaign promises when he signed an Executive Order directing the closure of the Guantanamo prison facility. Since then the Republicans have blocked every attempt to fund the process of closing it. At the same time, the conservatives have consistently claimed that the President failed, or some even call it lied, about his promise to close the base.

In his signing statement, the President said in part:

In this bill, the Congress has once again included provisions that would bar the use of appropriated funds for transfers of Guantanamo detainees into the United States (section 8119 of Division A), as well as transfers to the custody or effective control of foreign countries unless specified conditions are met (section 8120 of Division A). These provisions are similar to others found in the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012. My Administration has repeatedly communicated my objections to these provisions, including my view that they could, under certain circumstances, violate constitutional separation of powers principles. In approving this bill, I reiterate the objections my Administration has raised regarding these provisions, my intent to interpret and apply them in a manner that avoids constitutional conflicts, and the promise that my Administration will continue to work towards their repeal.
Why Do The Republicans Keep Blocking The Closure of Guantanamo?
 
This is a huge gift to Democrats.

Hopefully they exploit it to the fullest.

Although impeachment, which will happen if the Republicans get their numbers, would have been better.

Democrats need to pound House Republicans on what they have refused to vote on and the impact it has had on the country

Good idea!

On the other hand, Republicans need to pound Senate Democrats on what they have refused to vote on and the impact it has had on the country.
 
This is a huge gift to Democrats.

Hopefully they exploit it to the fullest.

Although impeachment, which will happen if the Republicans get their numbers, would have been better.

Democrats need to pound House Republicans on what they have refused to vote on and the impact it has had on the country

Good idea!

On the other hand, Republicans need to pound Senate Democrats on what they have refused to vote on and the impact it has had on the country.

What should they have voted on?

Are Republicans prepared to defend their record number of filibusters?
 
This is a huge gift to Democrats.

Hopefully they exploit it to the fullest.

Although impeachment, which will happen if the Republicans get their numbers, would have been better.

Democrats need to pound House Republicans on what they have refused to vote on and the impact it has had on the country

Yeah. Just like they should pound the Senate Dems for all those bills Reid has refused to vote on or debate and the impact its had on the country.
 
Obama and the Dems took office, January 20th, 2009 and proceeded to act in basically the same manner as the Vandals and the Goths did when they sacked Rome. The catapulting of Bubonic plague infested corpses over the city's walls was deferred until January, 2014.

Hyperbole is so effective, isn't it?
 
Targeting and killing at least four Americans without due process.

Yeah dude.

Continue your defense and mourning of the terrorist Awlaki.

That really looks great.

:thup;

You are such a political hack it is unbelievable. The left wing normally will defend the lowest in our society. They will protest the execution of anyone even cop killers. Was OJ guilty? Certainly the MSM claimed him to be guilty but he was found innocent in a court of law.

Defending the Constitution is not the same as defending scum bags that go to other countries to rail, and fight, against America. But because I, or anyone else, doesn't like what they do does not deprive them of their rights. You must agree unless you don't care about YOUR rights.

I love the deflection to OJ Simpson. I really do. :eusa_clap:
 
Let me ask everyone. How does Congress stop a president that they feel is overstepping his power? What vehicle do they have? Do we just wait out 4 years and hope that the voters know enough about the situation to vote out the President? Certainly with the state of the economy during the last election NO president should have been reelected. So what is congress to do, short of impeachment? I think challenging the president in court is the way to go. Let the law suit play out, nothing will happen, and the Republicans will be futile in their attempt to rein in the President. Then the left can laugh because they got away with it again.

Congress can pass legislation that it wants and then, if the POTUS vetoes the legislation Congress can override the veto.

That is the due process "short of impeachment".

What is happening here is an impotent minority faction that does NOT have majority control over Congress attempting to rewrite the Constitution because they can't impose their will on the nation.

This will be seen for what it is by the voters and they will hand down their verdict in November.
 
Let me ask everyone. How does Congress stop a president that they feel is overstepping his power? What vehicle do they have? Do we just wait out 4 years and hope that the voters know enough about the situation to vote out the President? Certainly with the state of the economy during the last election NO president should have been reelected. So what is congress to do, short of impeachment? I think challenging the president in court is the way to go. Let the law suit play out, nothing will happen, and the Republicans will be futile in their attempt to rein in the President. Then the left can laugh because they got away with it again.

Congress can pass legislation that it wants and then, if the POTUS vetoes the legislation Congress can override the veto.

That is the due process "short of impeachment".

What is happening here is an impotent minority faction that does NOT have majority control over Congress attempting to rewrite the Constitution because they can't impose their will on the nation.

This will be seen for what it is by the voters and they will hand down their verdict in November.

your last sentence is very true. The voters will see what has been going on under Obama, Reid, and Pelosi and will turn the congress into a GOP majority.

The US voters are fed up with democrat lies and incompetence. The US voters are not as dumb as obozo and you libtards think they are.
 
This is a huge gift to Democrats.

Hopefully they exploit it to the fullest.

Although impeachment, which will happen if the Republicans get their numbers, would have been better.

Democrats need to pound House Republicans on what they have refused to vote on and the impact it has had on the country

You mean all those bills sent up to Reid,to only have them shelved you do mean all those bills right?
 
Didn't McConnell just state the the GOP was not even talking about impeachment or a lawsuit, that it was all just the dems ruse?
 
Let me ask everyone. How does Congress stop a president that they feel is overstepping his power? What vehicle do they have? Do we just wait out 4 years and hope that the voters know enough about the situation to vote out the President? Certainly with the state of the economy during the last election NO president should have been reelected. So what is congress to do, short of impeachment? I think challenging the president in court is the way to go. Let the law suit play out, nothing will happen, and the Republicans will be futile in their attempt to rein in the President. Then the left can laugh because they got away with it again.

Congress can pass legislation that it wants and then, if the POTUS vetoes the legislation Congress can override the veto.

That is the due process "short of impeachment".

What is happening here is an impotent minority faction that does NOT have majority control over Congress attempting to rewrite the Constitution because they can't impose their will on the nation.

This will be seen for what it is by the voters and they will hand down their verdict in November.

You are talking about the party that has controlled 2/3 of the government for years,but still wants to blame the minority party,you do mean that party right?
 
This is a huge gift to Democrats.

Hopefully they exploit it to the fullest.

Although impeachment, which will happen if the Republicans get their numbers, would have been better.

Democrats need to pound House Republicans on what they have refused to vote on and the impact it has had on the country

Good idea!

On the other hand, Republicans need to pound Senate Democrats on what they have refused to vote on and the impact it has had on the country.

That would be great as well.

We could go over the Ryan Budget, the 50 or so times the Republicans have tried to squash Obamacare and the XL pipeline, which gives license to a foreign country to steam roll through the land of American farmers and ranchers.

Should be fun.
 
His executive order was signed the day he took office and demanded it closed by the end of that year.

During that year, and for the entire year following, democrats had the majority in both houses.

So are you telling us that a democratic congress amended the law?
That's exactly what they did.

So then why blame the republicans for that?
No one blamed Republicans. The point was that when Obama wrote an executive order that the Dems didn't like, they passed legislation to stop it. Why don't the Reps do that? See my other post for the answer.
 
No one blamed Republicans. The point was that when Obama wrote an executive order that the Dems didn't like, they passed legislation to stop it. Why don't the Reps do that? See my other post for the answer.

It's more fun to create a constitutional crisis than to pass legislation. Crying and wailing and renting one's clothes on the Capitol steps makes for better theater for the rubes.

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