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Today's the last day for the orange shitlord to provide evidence for his claims -- or shut the fuck up.
TICK TICK TICK TICK ....
You folks are gonna waiting a LONG LONG time. There's a game being played here that pretty obvious to me since I listen to ALL sources and have no "favorite outcome" and I know a bit about Intel agencies.
What the deal is -- is that MOST EVERY politician in DC knows the source of all those leaked convos. They are confusing the media about "wiretaps" -- when that info never CAME from a separate investigation or warrant. It came from ONGOING bulk collections and other general Intel methods.
NY Times on Jan 20th --- Wiretaps Used in Investigation of Trump Aides" is all the proof the Orange needs right? Except that article hit E-Print edition with different headline and the CONTENT of the article were unsourced credits to Intel Collection -- not wiretaps. SOMEONE decided to downplay the "collections" aspect to protect that huge PATRIOT act domestic bulk collection toy that Wash now has.
Like SPECIFICALLY -- that massive Domestic spying collections that the Congress just built for NSA. Somebody made it into a political weapon. There's a dedicated intel insurgency to USE that awesome power. And 96% of the politicians in Wash DC LOVE that Big Brother system. Would never harm it. Would never let YOU KNOW -- it's been terribly abused.
So this is all BlackMail Theater. And if it RESOLVES -- you'll NEVER know where all that leaking came from. If it goes NUCLEAR and El Loco Cheeto Gigante decides he loves that system and the PATRIOT Act that goes with it -- You can expect both sides to go down fighting USING it and take the nation with it..
Today's the last day for the orange shitlord to provide evidence for his claims -- or shut the fuck up.
TICK TICK TICK TICK ....
You folks are gonna waiting a LONG LONG time. There's a game being played here that pretty obvious to me since I listen to ALL sources and have no "favorite outcome" and I know a bit about Intel agencies.
What the deal is -- is that MOST EVERY politician in DC knows the source of all those leaked convos. They are confusing the media about "wiretaps" -- when that info never CAME from a separate investigation or warrant. It came from ONGOING bulk collections and other general Intel methods.
NY Times on Jan 20th --- Wiretaps Used in Investigation of Trump Aides" is all the proof the Orange needs right? Except that article hit E-Print edition with different headline and the CONTENT of the article were unsourced credits to Intel Collection -- not wiretaps. SOMEONE decided to downplay the "collections" aspect to protect that huge PATRIOT act domestic bulk collection toy that Wash now has.
Like SPECIFICALLY -- that massive Domestic spying collections that the Congress just built for NSA. Somebody made it into a political weapon. There's a dedicated intel insurgency to USE that awesome power. And 96% of the politicians in Wash DC LOVE that Big Brother system. Would never harm it. Would never let YOU KNOW -- it's been terribly abused.
So this is all BlackMail Theater. And if it RESOLVES -- you'll NEVER know where all that leaking came from. If it goes NUCLEAR and El Loco Cheeto Gigante decides he loves that system and the PATRIOT Act that goes with it -- You can expect both sides to go down fighting USING it and take the nation with it..
It all goes back to a Rockford Files I saw once.
Only now the bad guys won and it's all in place.
"El Loco Cheeto Gigante" That moniker says a lot about you. I'm betting he's more for 4th amendment than anything else.
I hope I'm right, too.
Bush and "The Patriot Act" need to go away. Like, 9 years ago.
Today's the last day for the orange shitlord to provide evidence for his claims -- or shut the fuck up.
TICK TICK TICK TICK ....
You folks are gonna waiting a LONG LONG time. There's a game being played here that pretty obvious to me since I listen to ALL sources and have no "favorite outcome" and I know a bit about Intel agencies.
What the deal is -- is that MOST EVERY politician in DC knows the source of all those leaked convos. They are confusing the media about "wiretaps" -- when that info never CAME from a separate investigation or warrant. It came from ONGOING bulk collections and other general Intel methods.
NY Times on Jan 20th --- Wiretaps Used in Investigation of Trump Aides" is all the proof the Orange needs right? Except that article hit E-Print edition with different headline and the CONTENT of the article were unsourced credits to Intel Collection -- not wiretaps. SOMEONE decided to downplay the "collections" aspect to protect that huge PATRIOT act domestic bulk collection toy that Wash now has.
Like SPECIFICALLY -- that massive Domestic spying collections that the Congress just built for NSA. Somebody made it into a political weapon. There's a dedicated intel insurgency to USE that awesome power. And 96% of the politicians in Wash DC LOVE that Big Brother system. Would never harm it. Would never let YOU KNOW -- it's been terribly abused.
So this is all BlackMail Theater. And if it RESOLVES -- you'll NEVER know where all that leaking came from. If it goes NUCLEAR and El Loco Cheeto Gigante decides he loves that system and the PATRIOT Act that goes with it -- You can expect both sides to go down fighting USING it and take the nation with it..
It all goes back to a Rockford Files I saw once.
Only now the bad guys won and it's all in place.
"El Loco Cheeto Gigante" That moniker says a lot about you. I'm betting he's more for 4th amendment than anything else.
I hope I'm right, too.
Bush and "The Patriot Act" need to go away. Like, 9 years ago.
Beginning to look that way. These guys are flirting with utter chaos and disaster. We need to go back to the "no Domestic Spy operations" toute suite. Only should be NCTC for terrorism under the FBI.. Let the "3 letter intel agencies" back-channel tips to the FBI only. And go BACK to tasking any domestic collections from that small group of 20 people allowed to determine WHAT gets flagged, transcripted and analyzed out of ANY domestic collection. And grossly MODIFY the PATRIOT act.
Today's the last day for the orange shitlord to provide evidence for his claims -- or shut the fuck up.
TICK TICK TICK TICK ....
You folks are gonna waiting a LONG LONG time. There's a game being played here that pretty obvious to me since I listen to ALL sources and have no "favorite outcome" and I know a bit about Intel agencies.
What the deal is -- is that MOST EVERY politician in DC knows the source of all those leaked convos. They are confusing the media about "wiretaps" -- when that info never CAME from a separate investigation or warrant. It came from ONGOING bulk collections and other general Intel methods.
NY Times on Jan 20th --- Wiretaps Used in Investigation of Trump Aides" is all the proof the Orange needs right? Except that article hit E-Print edition with different headline and the CONTENT of the article were unsourced credits to Intel Collection -- not wiretaps. SOMEONE decided to downplay the "collections" aspect to protect that huge PATRIOT act domestic bulk collection toy that Wash now has.
Like SPECIFICALLY -- that massive Domestic spying collections that the Congress just built for NSA. Somebody made it into a political weapon. There's a dedicated intel insurgency to USE that awesome power. And 96% of the politicians in Wash DC LOVE that Big Brother system. Would never harm it. Would never let YOU KNOW -- it's been terribly abused.
So this is all BlackMail Theater. And if it RESOLVES -- you'll NEVER know where all that leaking came from. If it goes NUCLEAR and El Loco Cheeto Gigante decides he loves that system and the PATRIOT Act that goes with it -- You can expect both sides to go down fighting USING it and take the nation with it..
It all goes back to a Rockford Files I saw once.
Only now the bad guys won and it's all in place.
"El Loco Cheeto Gigante" That moniker says a lot about you. I'm betting he's more for 4th amendment than anything else.
I hope I'm right, too.
Bush and "The Patriot Act" need to go away. Like, 9 years ago.
Beginning to look that way. These guys are flirting with utter chaos and disaster. We need to go back to the "no Domestic Spy operations" toute suite. Only should be NCTC for terrorism under the FBI.. Let the "3 letter intel agencies" back-channel tips to the FBI only. And go BACK to tasking any domestic collections from that small group of 20 people allowed to determine WHAT gets flagged, transcripted and analyzed out of ANY domestic collection. And grossly MODIFY the PATRIOT act.
I'm more in the camp of "scrap" rather than modify. It was an open affront on the 4th amendment. That being said, what they really should be monitoring is private Muslim voice chats on Yahoo and Skype. That's the real deal if it's really about catching terrorists and they could cut 7/8 of their staff.
Monitoring everybody is BS.
And today the white house responded. Trump really didn't mean Obama was doing the wire tapping. According to Trump's press secretary, we have to know when Trump is just kidding. So we really shouldn't take what the president says seriously.
Unfortunately, Spicer didn't say how we are to know the president is serious. I guess he doesn't know himself.
March 20 is the deadline given to Donald Trump by members of both parties in the House Intelligence Committee. House lawmakers ask DOJ to offer wiretapping evidence by Monday
In this thread, conservatives are asked to predict what evidence, if any (microwaves, etc) they think Trump will submit.
Time limit on allegationsMarch 20 is the deadline given to Donald Trump by members of both parties in the House Intelligence Committee. House lawmakers ask DOJ to offer wiretapping evidence by Monday
In this thread, conservatives are asked to predict what evidence, if any (microwaves, etc) they think Trump will submit.
Time limits on investigations? Makes no sense. If this is the new rule then Dems have the same amount of time to prove every single allegation they've made in recent weeks. I think the time limit on proving that Russian hacked the DNC is long past.
The awful reality is that Trump cannot differentiate conspiracy theories from the truthAt best, Spicer made the case that Trump is an awful communicator and nothing he says should be taken at face value.
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The awful reality is that Trump cannot differentiate conspiracy theories from the truthAt best, Spicer made the case that Trump is an awful communicator and nothing he says should be taken at face value.
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Trump went into a Twitter rage against Obama at 6 AM. Must have kept him up all nightThe awful reality is that Trump cannot differentiate conspiracy theories from the truthAt best, Spicer made the case that Trump is an awful communicator and nothing he says should be taken at face value.
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A sure sign of a deeply deluded mind. It's one thing to have private, pet theories that rattle around your head and quite another to go public with them as POTUS. The reports that he was furious that no one believed him or backed him is a further sign of dysfunction.
Who has the most MISERABLE JOB on earth? Sean Spicer, Trump's White House Press secretary--LOL
Spicer: Trump didn't mean wiretapping when he tweeted about wiretapping - CNNPolitics.com
So now if "wiretapping" has quotes in one of Trump's tweets, it does not mean it's wiretapping.
A sure sign of a deeply deluded mind. It's one thing to have private, pet theories that rattle around your head and quite another to go public with them as POTUS. The reports that he was furious that no one believed him or backed him is a further sign of dysfunction.
Indeed.A sure sign of a deeply deluded mind. It's one thing to have private, pet theories that rattle around your head and quite another to go public with them as POTUS. The reports that he was furious that no one believed him or backed him is a further sign of dysfunction.
It's time for Mike Pence to start warming up. Sounds like it's time to send in the relief pitcher.
Indeed.
Pence no doubt carries a folder in his briefcase with several contingency draft letters invoking the 25th amd.
Why are people in another thread saying he's got til NEXT Monday now? CNN is sticking with today, but I'm sure the administration will just continue to punt to the investigation in Congress. Won't they?TODAY IS THE DAY TRUMP
PUT UP OR SHUT UP
PUNK
There is a hearing set for the 20th.
Link?
Indeed.
Pence no doubt carries a folder in his briefcase with several contingency draft letters invoking the 25th amd.
If Pence and a majority of the cabinet say Trump is a delusional megalomaniac, it would be up to Trump to prove he wasn't. And we see what a problem Trump has providing proof of things he claims.
