How come Lincoln got away with shutting down hundreds of newspapers and jailed journalists

[bripat9643]

The Confederacy formed a nation where 40 percent of their population was owned as property by the rest

So did our Founding Fathers, you fucking moron.

Except our Founding Fathers didn't try- and fail- to form a nation- specifically to protect the ownership of slaves- you fucking moron.

Nevertheless, they founded a nation that protected the institution of slavery. They should all have been shot, according to douchebags like you.

 

[bripat9643]

Leave the union to protect slavery

Started a war to protect the Union.

Tell us again how Lincoln forced South Carolina to fire cannons on the American Army?

Explain to us how the Union was legally entitled to station troops on the territory of another sovereign nation?

The United States was entitled to station the United States Army in a fort built by the United States on soil of the United States to protect the United States.

Tell us again how Lincoln forced South Carolina to fire cannons on the American Army?

Tell us how South Carolina forced Lincoln to invade Virginia.

 

[bripat9643]

Leave the union to protect slavery

Started a war to protect the Union.

Lincoln fought to preserve our country

The South was more concerned about their slaves than their country

That's exactly like the abusive husband who beat his wife to preserve their marriage. Why would any sane person want to presere such a marriage?

LOL_ because trying to secede to protect your ownership of slaves is so much like marriage.

I'll bet you wonder what it's like to have a brain.

 

[Syriusly]

Leave the union to protect slavery

Started a war to protect the Union.

Tell us again how Lincoln forced South Carolina to fire cannons on the American Army?

Explain to us how the Union was legally entitled to station troops on the territory of another sovereign nation?

The United States was entitled to station the United States Army in a fort built by the United States on soil of the United States to protect the United States.

Tell us again how Lincoln forced South Carolina to fire cannons on the American Army?

Tell us how South Carolina forced Lincoln to invade Virginia.

Did Lincoln fire off the cannon on the Battery himself?

 

[Syriusly]

The Civil War was not about Lincoln. The Civil War was not caused by Lincoln. Lincoln did not start the Civil War. People at the time knew that a declaration of secession meant war. The South wished to commit this act because it did not care to confront a legal attempt to change the nature of America. In historical instances similar to this, rebellion, the very most severe punishments ensued. The South should have known it could not succeed, but reason did not prevail and war was forced to resolve the matter.
The matter was resolved.

Not true. Many thought secession legal. Several secession attempts were made before Lincoln’s War, but were averted.

Plus the South sent a delegation to meet with Dishonest Abe to discuss payment for federal property in the South and to pay their share of the nation debt. Why would they do this if they knew secession meant war Old Abe told them to fuck off and die.

Before Dishonest Abe demanded war, many newspapers in the North said let the South go peacefully. Why would they do this if secession was illegal? This all changed when he started theathening and imprisoning reporters.

Many in the slave holding rebels states thought that secession would lead to war- and welcomed that. Sure there were people who wanted to believe that secession was legal.

And speaking of 'dishonesty' when did Lincoln 'demand' war?

Before or after Rebels fired on the American Army?

It doesn't matter what they thought. The bottom line is that Lincoln invaded Virginia. Lincoln started the war, not the South.

The bottom line is that the Confederates started the war, when they fired on the United States Army.

Not Lincoln.

Linconln started the war, moron. The fact is indisputable.

I love how you say 'indisputable' like that actually means something.

 

[Syriusly]

Leave the union to protect slavery

Started a war to protect the Union.

Tell us again how Lincoln forced South Carolina to fire cannons on the American Army?

Explain to us how the Union was legally entitled to station troops on the territory of another sovereign nation?

The United States was entitled to station the United States Army in a fort built by the United States on soil of the United States to protect the United States.

Tell us again how Lincoln forced South Carolina to fire cannons on the American Army?

It was the soil of South Carolina, you fucking imbecile. If the U.S. government purchases a piece of land in Mexico, that doesn't then become "the soil of the United States." It's truly sad that morons like you have to be taught the difference between property and territory. Ft Sumter was U.S. property, but it was South Carolina territory, which had every right to determine whether foreign troops were allowed to occupy it or not.

LOL- you are fucking imbecile defending the Southern slave states.

Not me.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Yep, the Southern Hucklefvck traiters were using the newspapers as pr machine to destroy the American Nation.

Sherman should have made a sharp right and continues to annihilate the Southern Weakwhyte Weasel Devil Slavemaster and cleanse the world Southern Filth DNA!

Now we have our own Repub Christian Extremists who are a lot like ISIS Extremists.

 

[bripat9643]

Started a war to protect the Union.

Tell us again how Lincoln forced South Carolina to fire cannons on the American Army?

Explain to us how the Union was legally entitled to station troops on the territory of another sovereign nation?

The United States was entitled to station the United States Army in a fort built by the United States on soil of the United States to protect the United States.

Tell us again how Lincoln forced South Carolina to fire cannons on the American Army?

Tell us how South Carolina forced Lincoln to invade Virginia.

Did Lincoln fire off the cannon on the Battery himself?

How would the answer to that prove that Lincoln didn't send federal troops to invade Virginia?

 

[bripat9643]

Not true. Many thought secession legal. Several secession attempts were made before Lincoln’s War, but were averted.

Plus the South sent a delegation to meet with Dishonest Abe to discuss payment for federal property in the South and to pay their share of the nation debt. Why would they do this if they knew secession meant war Old Abe told them to fuck off and die.

Before Dishonest Abe demanded war, many newspapers in the North said let the South go peacefully. Why would they do this if secession was illegal? This all changed when he started theathening and imprisoning reporters.

Many in the slave holding rebels states thought that secession would lead to war- and welcomed that. Sure there were people who wanted to believe that secession was legal.

And speaking of 'dishonesty' when did Lincoln 'demand' war?

Before or after Rebels fired on the American Army?

It doesn't matter what they thought. The bottom line is that Lincoln invaded Virginia. Lincoln started the war, not the South.

The bottom line is that the Confederates started the war, when they fired on the United States Army.

Not Lincoln.

Linconln started the war, moron. The fact is indisputable.

I love how you say 'indisputable' like that actually means something.

Definition of INDISPUTABLE

Definition of indisputable
: not disputable : unquestionable

• indisputable proof

 

[bripat9643]

Started a war to protect the Union.

Tell us again how Lincoln forced South Carolina to fire cannons on the American Army?

Explain to us how the Union was legally entitled to station troops on the territory of another sovereign nation?

The United States was entitled to station the United States Army in a fort built by the United States on soil of the United States to protect the United States.

Tell us again how Lincoln forced South Carolina to fire cannons on the American Army?

It was the soil of South Carolina, you fucking imbecile. If the U.S. government purchases a piece of land in Mexico, that doesn't then become "the soil of the United States." It's truly sad that morons like you have to be taught the difference between property and territory. Ft Sumter was U.S. property, but it was South Carolina territory, which had every right to determine whether foreign troops were allowed to occupy it or not.

LOL- you are fucking imbecile defending the Southern slave states.

Not me.

You defend a mass murderer and war criminal.

 

[Wolfstrike]

the confederate constitution banned further imports of slaves, and the writings of Jefferson Davis showed he knew slavery was ending

Those of you who side with Lincoln can't win this argument.
He was a POS glorified by our modern liar government

 

[Wry Catcher]

and trump cant whine about fake news without being accused of being a tyrant? Lincoln actually WAS a tyrant.
Geez, americans are so disingenuous
America's Greatest President: Abraham Lincoln
http://ocean.otr.usm.edu/~w304644/ajha/americanjournalism/fall09.pdf
Im not even going to get started on lincoln sending out sherman to rape, murder pillage and kill livestock and all of his other unconstitutional acts
Im very interested. TIA

No roads, schools, or monuments will be dedicated to remember Trump, unless he orders a statute of himself. Of course once he leaves office and people begin to see the damage he has done, they will do to his monument to himself as the Iraqi people did to Saddam.

 

[bripat9643]

and trump cant whine about fake news without being accused of being a tyrant? Lincoln actually WAS a tyrant.
Geez, americans are so disingenuous
America's Greatest President: Abraham Lincoln
http://ocean.otr.usm.edu/~w304644/ajha/americanjournalism/fall09.pdf
Im not even going to get started on lincoln sending out sherman to rape, murder pillage and kill livestock and all of his other unconstitutional acts
Im very interested. TIA

No roads, schools, or monuments will be dedicated to remember Trump, unless he orders a statute of himself. Of course once he leaves office and people begin to see the damage he has done, they will do to his monument to himself as the Iraqi people did to Saddam.

What damage has he done?

 

[The2ndAmendment]

History is written by the victors.

 

[gipper]

History is written by the victors.

Is that a justification for mass murder and government tyranny?

 

[gipper]

Tell us again how Lincoln forced South Carolina to fire cannons on the American Army?

Explain to us how the Union was legally entitled to station troops on the territory of another sovereign nation?

The United States was entitled to station the United States Army in a fort built by the United States on soil of the United States to protect the United States.

Tell us again how Lincoln forced South Carolina to fire cannons on the American Army?

It was the soil of South Carolina, you fucking imbecile. If the U.S. government purchases a piece of land in Mexico, that doesn't then become "the soil of the United States." It's truly sad that morons like you have to be taught the difference between property and territory. Ft Sumter was U.S. property, but it was South Carolina territory, which had every right to determine whether foreign troops were allowed to occupy it or not.

LOL- you are fucking imbecile defending the Southern slave states.

Not me.

You defend a mass murderer and war criminal.

Statists seem to have a propensity for this kind of delusional thinking.

 

[gipper]

and trump cant whine about fake news without being accused of being a tyrant? Lincoln actually WAS a tyrant.
Geez, americans are so disingenuous
America's Greatest President: Abraham Lincoln
http://ocean.otr.usm.edu/~w304644/ajha/americanjournalism/fall09.pdf
Im not even going to get started on lincoln sending out sherman to rape, murder pillage and kill livestock and all of his other unconstitutional acts
Im very interested. TIA

No roads, schools, or monuments will be dedicated to remember Trump, unless he orders a statute of himself. Of course once he leaves office and people begin to see the damage he has done, they will do to his monument to himself as the Iraqi people did to Saddam.

What damage has he done?

Wry thinks Trump is destroying the nation, but he also thinks Obama was WONDERFUL.

How one can hold these two opinions simultaneously, is quite a trick. It seems to be common among those who consume copious amounts of government run media.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

History is written by the victors.

Is that a justification for mass murder and government tyranny?

No, it's actually the best justification for the 2nd Amendment. The most well armed grouped that inhabits a region is the group that rules it.

 

[regent]

Leave the union to protect slavery

Started a war to protect the Union.

Tell us again how Lincoln forced South Carolina to fire cannons on the American Army?

Explain to us how the Union was legally entitled to station troops on the territory of another sovereign nation?

The United States was entitled to station the United States Army in a fort built by the United States on soil of the United States to protect the United States.

Tell us again how Lincoln forced South Carolina to fire cannons on the American Army?

Tell us how South Carolina forced Lincoln to invade Virginia.

Were "No Trespassing" signs erected?

 

[bripat9643]

Started a war to protect the Union.

Tell us again how Lincoln forced South Carolina to fire cannons on the American Army?

Explain to us how the Union was legally entitled to station troops on the territory of another sovereign nation?

The United States was entitled to station the United States Army in a fort built by the United States on soil of the United States to protect the United States.

Tell us again how Lincoln forced South Carolina to fire cannons on the American Army?

Tell us how South Carolina forced Lincoln to invade Virginia.

Were "No Trespassing" signs erected?

"No tresspassing" signs on Virginia?

Are you trying to convince me you're a dumbass?