How does one propose a tax cut that is unpopular?

[Toddsterpatriot]

DERP!

Come on, toddster. Show us. Show us that economics expertise of yours.

Show me what an "inflation tax" has to do with the bill.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

That may be, it's still not a tax hike on the middle class.

Again, this indicates that you do not understand economics.

And you're supposed to be coloring. pst...

it's still not a tax hike on the middle class.


Again, this indicates that you do not understand economics.

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DERP!

it's still not a tax hike on the middle class.

Whether the bill invokes a tax hike, or not, is not the point. The point of this thread is exactly what's stated in the OP. the unpopularity of the tax bill composed and proponed and the Congress' and POTUS' determination to yet sign the damn thing.

Whether the bill invokes a tax hike, or not, is not the point.

The point is the media lying, saying it's a hike for the middle class when it's actually a cut for the middle class.

the unpopularity of the tax bill composed and proponed and the Congress' and POTUS' determination to yet sign the damn thing.

Why is it unpopular?

 

[Brain357]

When we are already deeply in debt. Many of us want to see the debt shrink.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I know the tax bill is not increasing taxes on the middle class.

The gains that people think they will have are illusionary. It is distortion. The fact that you fail to realize this reality indicates that you do not understand economics.

Go color.

I heard it would cause blood in the streets.....Armageddon.....That's why I support it.

Human sacrifice. Dogs and cats...living together. Mass hysteria.

 

[Natural Citizen]

DERP!

Come on, toddster. Show us. Show us that economics expertise of yours.

Show me what an "inflation tax" has to do with the bill.

The GOP adopted chained CPI into it. Are you plum stupid?

 

[Natural Citizen]

The point is the media lying, saying it's a hike for the middle class when it's actually a cut for the middle class.

Bull puckey. The real point is (and should only be) that the government is lying by purposefully understating the effects of inflation through adoption of chained CPI into their bill.

What's worse is that right-wing statists like you, who think you're conservative when you're actually not, pass the government lie around with your little government graphs. To your credit, you likely have no idea what you're actually doing by passing around those bogus graphs and figures that purposely understate that hidden tax.

Any gains are illusionary because of that. As a consequence, Americans in the middle class will eventually be put into a higher tax bracket while the little remaining spending power with that 4 cent dollar they have continues to drop further and further and further into the deep, dark, abyss.

Toddster, you're as mainstream as any mainstream media outlet. So spare us.

 

[Reasonable]

This is also why they’re rushing this bill through before anyone has the time to read it.
Scoundrels. The GOP are as unethical as the Dump is.

 

[Thinker101]

How does one propose a tax cut that is unpopular?
Become a democrat?

 

[Reasonable]

I know the tax bill is not increasing taxes on the middle class.

The gains that people think they will have are illusionary. It is distortion. The fact that you fail to realize this reality indicates that you do not understand economics.

Go color.

I heard it would cause blood in the streets.....Armageddon.....That's why I support it.

Moron doesn’t understand that the military would not be on his side.

 

[Reasonable]

How does one propose a tax cut that is unpopular?
Become a democrat?

You’re not much of a thinker.

 

[Thinker101]

How does one propose a tax cut that is unpopular?
Become a democrat?

You’re not much of a thinker.

You're not very reasonable.

 

[whitehall]

How does one determine that a popular tax cut is ...unpopular? It can't be done during democrat administrations for a couple of reasons. First of all there are never tax cuts during democrat administrations and second of all the mainstream media that alleges that tax cuts are unpopular is a propaganda arm of the democrat party.

 

[Manonthestreet]

T17-0318 - Major Provisions in Conference Agreement: The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act; Tax Units with a Tax Increase or Tax Cut, by Expanded Cash Income Percentile, 2018; Baseline: Current Law

 

[percysunshine]

President Reagan and Congressional Republicans discovered that broad tax cuts may appeal to working-class voters even if richer constituents reap most of the rewards. The key GOP move was to keep tax-cut promises sweepingly general. If voters are given a choice between tax cuts and spending on specific programs, they choose to maintain or increase spending. When they are given a choice between tax cuts and lower deficit levels, they choose lower deficits. It's a different matter, however, if no one mentions the need to cut specific programs or the possibility of higher deficits. In that case, voters assume that tax cuts will be paid for by cuts in “government waste.” This is the centerpiece of the Republican tax cut strategy. 1980s Republicans had few moral qualms about promising tax cuts without mentioning the specific programs that might have to be cut. They saw this approach as the strategic analogue to years of Democratic promises to increase spending without detailing how to pay for new or expanded programs.

Republicans could also take advantage of the general unpopularity of major kinds of U.S. taxes. In contrast to many other advanced industrial democracies, the United States relies heavily on highly visible taxes – property taxes at the local level and the income tax at the national level. As middle-class market incomes stagnated during the economic crisis, reductions in highly visible taxes became a popular way to boost family budgets.

Republican fealty to tax-cut politics was set in cement soon after Reagan left office. In his first term, successor Republican President George H. W. Bush wanted to address rising deficits and broke a pledge never to raise taxes. This was not so different from what Reagan himself did when he accepted tax increases in 1982. But when Bush was not reelected, modern-day Republicans drew an iron-clad lesson: tax cuts are the road to electoral success and tax increases spell defeat at the polls. Republicans also began to realize that deficits could be financed with foreign capital, and that voters did not punish politicians for big deficits. Their strategy became unshakable.

With that past as the prologue to current GOP tax cut bill, what does the GOP manage to do? Pen and pass a tax cut that most Americans don't want!

Seriously!?! Just what kind of f*ck-up must one be to propose tax cuts and not be able to convince a majority of the polity that the tax cut is good enough for them to support it? Of all the things legislators and government executives might do, cutting taxes has traditionally been the most popular thing available to choose from their "basket of goodies."

• A few weeks back: The GOP Tax Cuts Are Even More Unpopular Than Past Tax Hikes
  
• Six days ago: Poll: Majority oppose GOP tax bill
• Four hours ago: Republican Tax Bill Has Grown More Unpopular, Poll Shows

I'm sorry, but how "bat sh*t stupid" must Congressional Republicans be to (1) craft an unpopular tax cut and (2) not materially change it so that it is popular?

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Might it be unpopular because it's been billed as something it's not, say as "the biggest tax cut in history?"

• The Biggest Tax Cut in History? Not Even Close

That probably has something to do with it though it's also quite likely that voters know that at their peril will they trust in a damn thing the GOP, and Trump in particular, says.

'How does one propose a tax cut that is unpopular?'

The same way one proposes an unpopular healthcare bill.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

It's the effect of the Democrat Propaganda Machine

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

DERP!

Come on, toddster. Show us. Show us that economics expertise of yours.

Show me what an "inflation tax" has to do with the bill.

The GOP adopted chained CPI into it. Are you plum stupid?

The GOP adopted chained CPI into it.

That's awful! I probably won't be able to sleep tonight.......

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

This is also why they’re rushing this bill through before anyone has the time to read it.
Scoundrels. The GOP are as unethical as the Dump is.

Rush it thru, stick it to the liberals!!!

 

[usmbguest5318]

Whether the bill invokes a tax hike, or not, is not the point. The point of this thread is exactly what's stated in the OP. the unpopularity of the tax bill composed and proponed and the Congress' and POTUS' determination to yet sign the damn thing.

The most dangerous, insidious, regressive tax of all is the one that congress never has to vote on. And the one that will put people in higher tax brackets. People like Toddster never talk about that.

What is that? The tax of dissemblance and disingenuousness?

 

[Natural Citizen]

The GOP adopted chained CPI into it.

That's awful! I probably won't be able to sleep tonight.......

Well. As I said, you clearly do not understand economics.

 

[Natural Citizen]

What is that? The tax of dissemblance and disingenuousness?

Ha. Yeah. Precisely. Good choice of language.