How far is the US from Fascism ?

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Rise of the Nazis (TV Mini Series 2019–2023) ⭐ 8.1 | Documentary, History

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It took Hitler less than 6 months to tighten his grip on power. As I watched this programme I was struck by the similarities between Germany and the US. Hitler and Trump.

Hitler waged war on German institutions. Its government, its press and of course its court system. When he had finished there was nothing left.He burned fown the Reichstag. Trump lanched an invasion of Congress.

Hitler told Germans that he was the only answer to the problems of the state. Trump is doing that right now.

Hitlers followers had a violent core of street thugs who beat and murdered anybody that Hitler didnt like, They were paramilitary and wore their own uniforms. A bit like the proud boys and oath keepers. Violent thugs.

The threats of violence to prosecutors, judges and juries is something that they both share.

Hitler took his revenge on those who opposed him. Check out the story of Hans Litten. He was murdered in a camp for the crime of humiliating Hitler in court.

Of course Trump is threatening revenge on everyone who gets in his way.

Hitler and his group despised democracy. So do Trump and his chums. They just want power and too many "wrong" people vote. Election denying is pure fascism when it does not present any evidence. Its not just that trump is a narcissist. He is a deeply evil man.Like Hitler.

Hitler hated minorities. So does trump and trumpism. The nazis told women to get back in the home. So do trumpists. The nazis murdered gay folk. Trump vilifies them and works to remove them from society.

The nazis burned books, so does trumpism. Intellectuals were murdered by nazis. Check out trumpism and climate change.

This is not controversial. The biggest eye opener was the way that German society backed down at every opportunity. They thought that they were being clever. But Hitler just took the concession and moved on to the next level.

Those GOP politicians who have facilitated the rise of trump, looked the other way and swallowed their pride will have blood on their hands.

Trumpism isnt new. There is a long history of fascism in the US. If trump is elected then a noisy minority may see all their dreams come true.

While the deplorable Hillary Clinton observed that half of Trump's supporters are very much like her, this fascism is not limited to Trump's followers, but extends to both major warmongering criminal parties.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

While the deplorable Hillary Clinton observed that half of Trump's supporters are very much like her, this fascism is not limited to Trump's followers, but extends to both major warmongering criminal parties.

Bidens comments this week are a disgrace. But overall the dems are a safer bet than the GOP.
They would lead the world back several centuries. They hate everybody. including each other.

 

[dblack]

Bidens comments this week are a disgrace. But overall the dems are a safer bet than the GOP.

Fuck this idiot presumption that those are the only two choices. Wake up.

 

[bripat9643]

Agreed, the US does have a long history of populists or fascists. But they were mostly on the state level. None were able to lead on the national stage.

Unluckily for us, Trump broke through to the national level. But luckily for us, Trump is inept. His bumbling, his crimes, his inability to get things done, his inability to stay focused, etc has so far saved us.

But that doesn't mean that there aren't trump-minis around the corner who would be more focused and more able to push through their agenda. Hopefully, we have learned our lesson and can stop these future Hitlers before they make too much of an inroad.

One can only hope.

Biden is the fascist, moron. Biden is the one sentencing people to long prison sentences mostly for what they believe. Biden is the one who has BLM storm troopers waging war in the streets. Biden is the one who had government police censoring the internet.

 

[bripat9643]

Bidens comments this week are a disgrace. But overall the dems are a safer bet than the GOP.
They would lead the world back several centuries. They hate everybody. including each other.

Utter horseshit.

 

[BlindBoo]

While the deplorable Hillary Clinton observed that half of Trump's supporters are very much like her, this fascism is not limited to Trump's followers, but extends to both major warmongering criminal parties.

The Neo-GOP obviously identifies with the "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic" in America.

“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”

 

[bripat9643]

The Neo-GOP obviously identifies with the "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic" in America.

Even if true, how is that fascist?

“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”

All you proved is that Hillary is a fascist.

 

[Edgetho]

Bidens comments this week are a disgrace. But overall the dems are a safer bet than the GOP.
They would lead the world back several centuries. They hate everybody. including each other.

No. Trust me.

It's mostly you

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Fuck this idiot presumption that those are the only two choices. Wake up.

I am seeing it in the UK as well. Labour will win the next election but they are just parroting the tories on this. There are no voices for peace.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

No. Trust me.

It's mostly you

They hate people like me. Educated people with empathy are kryptonite to the nazi gop.

 

[Edgetho]

Even if true, how is that fascist?

All you proved is that Hillary is a fascist.

Back in the late 19th - early 20th Centuries, Europeans were getting seriously tired of Monarchy.

They saw the success of America and wanted be like us but they didn't want to give up the comfort of being told what to do.

They saw what happened in Russia and were repulsed; so some folks (Mussolini) tried a "Third Way". Not really socialist and not really Capitalist.

I guess you could call it state-directed Capitalism. Where big companies and government were almost indistinguishable.

Didn't work too well for ol' Il Duce. Last I checked he and his OL were hanging upside down from a lamp post. Didn't work out for his Protege, Hitler either.

The best government is the one that is in constant turmoil. That way, it can't cause a lot of trouble,

If you're worried about 'Fascism' look to the better organized political group. The one that routinely speaks, and votes with one voice.

 

[Edgetho]

They hate people like me. Educated people with empathy are kryptonite to the nazi gop.

That University of Phoenix degree has done real good for you, huh?

 

[BlindBoo]

Even if true, how is that fascist?

All you proved is that Hillary is a fascist.

Oh, most of the Neo-GOP herd are really just little 'f', or wannabe fascist.

Hillary was a lightweight. Grumpybear was on the ropes in the debate and she couldn't land the knock out punch. A true fascist, wanna be or not, would never have humble themselves and called the opposition to conceded the race after the network experts called it. A true fascist, wanna be or not, would have lied to their voters and told them the election was stolen and to not accept the results. As it was Mrs. Clinton, lightweight that she was, told her voters to accept the defeat and to try even harder the next time........

 

[bripat9643]

Oh, most of the Neo-GOP herd are really just little 'f', or wannabe fascist.

Says you, a fascist prog douchebag.

Hillary was a lightweight. Grumpybear was on the ropes in the debate and she couldn't land the knock out punch. A true fascist, wanna be or not, would never have humble themselves and called the opposition to conceded the race after the network experts called it. A true fascist, wanna be or not, would have lied to their voters and told them the election was stolen and to not accept the results. As it was Mrs. Clinton, lightweight that she was, told her voters to accept the defeat and to try even harder the next time........

That's evidence of nothing. Hillary did nothing of the sort. Can you provide a link to an article where Hillary says that?

 

[BlindBoo]

Can you provide a link to an article where Hillary says that?

I can do better than that.

"Very rowdy group. Thank you, my friends. Thank you. Thank you, thank you so very much for being here and I love you all, too.

Last night, I congratulated Donald Trump and offered to work with him on behalf of our country. I hope that he will be a successful president for all Americans. This is not the outcome we wanted or we worked so hard for and I’m sorry that we did not win this election for the values we share and the vision we hold for our country.

But I feel pride and gratitude for this wonderful campaign that we built together, this vast, diverse, creative, unruly, energized campaign. You represent the best of America and being your candidate has been one of the greatest honors of my life.

Read Hillary Clinton's Concession Speech for the 2016 Election

"This is painful and it will be for a long time."

time.com

I know how disappointed you feel because I feel it too, and so do tens of millions of Americans who invested their hopes and dreams in this effort. This is painful and it will be for a long time, but I want you to remember this. Our campaign was never about one person or even one election, it was about the country we love and about building an America that’s hopeful, inclusive and big-hearted.

We have seen that our nation is more deeply divided than we thought. But I still believe in America and I always will. And if you do, then we must accept this result and then look to the future. Donald Trump is going to be our president. We owe him an open mind and the chance to lead.

Our constitutional democracy enshrines the peaceful transfer of power and we don’t just respect that, we cherish it. It also enshrines other things; the rule of law, the principle that we are all equal in rights and dignity, freedom of worship and expression. We respect and cherish these values too and we must defend them.

 

[bripat9643]

I can do better than that.

"Very rowdy group. Thank you, my friends. Thank you. Thank you, thank you so very much for being here and I love you all, too.

Last night, I congratulated Donald Trump and offered to work with him on behalf of our country. I hope that he will be a successful president for all Americans. This is not the outcome we wanted or we worked so hard for and I’m sorry that we did not win this election for the values we share and the vision we hold for our country.

But I feel pride and gratitude for this wonderful campaign that we built together, this vast, diverse, creative, unruly, energized campaign. You represent the best of America and being your candidate has been one of the greatest honors of my life.

Read Hillary Clinton's Concession Speech for the 2016 Election

"This is painful and it will be for a long time."

time.com

I know how disappointed you feel because I feel it too, and so do tens of millions of Americans who invested their hopes and dreams in this effort. This is painful and it will be for a long time, but I want you to remember this. Our campaign was never about one person or even one election, it was about the country we love and about building an America that’s hopeful, inclusive and big-hearted.

We have seen that our nation is more deeply divided than we thought. But I still believe in America and I always will. And if you do, then we must accept this result and then look to the future. Donald Trump is going to be our president. We owe him an open mind and the chance to lead.

Our constitutional democracy enshrines the peaceful transfer of power and we don’t just respect that, we cherish it. It also enshrines other things; the rule of law, the principle that we are all equal in rights and dignity, freedom of worship and expression. We respect and cherish these values too and we must defend them.

"A day after her supporters gathered beneath a glass ceiling at the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center in New York City, she addressed a smaller crowd of staff and supporters in a ballroom at the New Yorker Hotel. "​

She didn't concede on election night. She "conceded" to a small group of followers the next day. Most of it was an attack on Trump.

 

[BlindBoo]

"A day after her supporters gathered beneath a glass ceiling at the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center in New York City, she addressed a smaller crowd of staff and supporters in a ballroom at the New Yorker Hotel. "​

She didn't concede on election night. She "conceded" to a small group of followers the next day. Most of it was an attack on Trump.

She called him when the networks called it, in the wee hour of the next morning.

 

[dblack]

While the deplorable Hillary Clinton observed that half of Trump's supporters are very much like her, this fascism is not limited to Trump's followers, but extends to both major warmongering criminal parties.

Indeed. With out current trajectory, some pretty ugly shit is going to go down. It's just a question of who gets there first.

 

[bripat9643]

She called him when the networks called it, in the wee hour of the next morning.

Gracious losers generally concede long before the networks call it, and it was obvious who won long before they did

 

[Smokin' OP]

Much further away than Britain, where you can be imprisoned or killed for saying the wrong pronouns. But with every day under the Biden/China regime, we get a little closer.

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